Help! Cancer and Sagittarius

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This is doing my head in and I can't read any more, or ask my friends for any more advice because no one can pick it!

I am a Sagittarius with a Pisces moon sign and I meet a Cancer with a Leo moon sign about 8 weeks ago. We met for coffee and then as things go passion got the better of us. He was fairly happy to reply to texts in the beginning and when I went away for a girls weekend he texted me to find out if I'd behaved myself (that was October long weekend in Australia).

The first three times we got busy and then he stayed around, like a real date. But now it's gone from that to sticking around for maybe an hour, two at the most. We don't talk, we just cuddle and while he's really affectionate he is such a closed book. I am not saying I'm open, my heart has been broken so much in the past few years that I am protecting it so much that I cannot tell this Cancer man how I feel. I like him, alot but I'm unsure of his feelings for me, if there is any beyond friends with benefits. He's so hot and cold and while I've tried to just go with it and be patient I'm beginning to think that there's nothing else here.

The communication started out with texting back and forth, now I rarely hear from him, only if I text to ask if I will see him this week. I don't want to bother him considering he is a shift worker, a single dad and has two kids, etc.

I'm starting to lose faith and patience as I am waiting for a good time to tell him how I am feeling, but so far there hasn't been one, or maybe I'm just not open to finding the time. Should I cut my losses and move on, or should I suck it up, tell him (text or otherwise) and see what happens? Is he waiting for me to tell him? I have no idea and need any help I can find. I'm going out of my mind here!
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This is doing my head in and I can't read any more, or ask my friends for any more advice because no one can pick it!
I posted this over in Relationships and Astrology before I saw this messageboard. I hope I can get some help!


I am a Sagittarius with a Pisces moon sign and I meet a Cancer with a Leo moon sign about 8 weeks ago. We met for coffee and then as things go passion got the better of us. He was fairly happy to reply to texts in the beginning and when I went away for a girls weekend he texted me to find out if I'd behaved myself (that was October long weekend in Australia).

The first three times we got busy and then he stayed around, like a real date. But now it's gone from that to sticking around for maybe an hour, two at the most. We don't talk, we just cuddle and while he's really affectionate he is such a closed book. I am not saying I'm open, my heart has been broken so much in the past few years that I am protecting it so much that I cannot tell this Cancer man how I feel. I like him, alot but I'm unsure of his feelings for me, if there is any beyond friends with benefits. He's so hot and cold and while I've tried to just go with it and be patient I'm beginning to think that there's nothing else here.

The communication started out with texting back and forth, now I rarely hear from him, only if I text to ask if I will see him this week. I don't want to bother him considering he is a shift worker, a single dad and has two kids, etc.

I'm starting to lose faith and patience as I am waiting for a good time to tell him how I am feeling, but so far there hasn't been one, or maybe I'm just not open to finding the time. Should I cut my losses and move on, or should I suck it up, tell him (text or otherwise) and see what happens? Is he waiting for me to tell him? I have no idea and need any help I can find. I'm going out of my mind here!
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Moon Man All I know is his birthday and his moon sign. No times or anything like that.

His ex and him have been seperated/divorced for two years, he has the kids 50% of the time. I'm not sure about the amicable split. When he speaks of it he doesn't seem to like his ex too much (but hey who does to be honest) I am very understanding of kids as I have my own. Literally we do not talk, but when I ask questions he is honest with me, which is nice I guess.

By hot and cold I mean one time I see him he seems to be into me and the next I am left wondering WTH! Maybe now it's time to establish some boundaries for whatever the hell is going on (because I'm just going with it and I still don't know what's going on) Being as I am I like simple, I like straight forward, I like boundaries.

My concern now is if I try and establish these boundaries will that be a bad thing?

Thanks for the help though. It's given me something to work with.
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That is very helpful thankyou. I haven't pushed anything as yet. I know this will take time, not only because of the things I have read about cancerian men, but also going off my own intuition and how I can gauge things are going.

Do I have the patience to stick this out? I do, but keeping emotions to myself as far as how I am feeling is going to be a tough thing. I've not put any pressure on him to do or be anything other than what is happening. Hell I've not even said, you know what things are good as they are.

I don't expect him to declare his undying love for me, or really anything. So if I say something would he think that I was pushing him for an answer? If that is the case then maybe I need to make things a little clearer about why I am saying something. All this uncertainty is a little unnerving!
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Posted by Amyrh77
Cancers feel time differently to us? Now that I didn't know.

When I see him again, whenever that is I intend to just blurt it out. I know things are slow for them, and I'm okay with that, but yeah I feel like a volcano is going to erupt if I don't say anything!



Invoke your inner Aries. When in doubt blurt it out.
You may feel a little uncomfortable but if you weigh that up against going on 14 dates with Mr Wrong when you could have culled him now and moved on, I think you will agree.
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This is true...........although we aren't technically dating. I'm actually not sure what is happening.

Thank you Aries, I shall take your when in doubt blurt it out and use it wisely =]



Good point. Exactly what is a "date" anyway?

People get on here claiming to be "dating" but they are actually rooting.

If you meet for a coffee is it a date? Yes if he is cute but not if he turns out to be a double bagger?
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Ahahahahahahahahaha good call Aries!

I agree, people don't "date" anymore, well they might in the movies but honestly if you are hot and they are hot then hell why not make it steaming!

It's the continuation of that I think that kinda blurs the lines. If you like them but you aren't sure if they like you, are you just going to continue shagging or are you something more........gotta love the gray area!
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Thanks for the input =]

I know people get busy and life happens and maybe I just am impatient and want everything now now now! I believe everything happens for a reason and being the typical Saggie when the going gets tough the Saggie runs in the opposite direction. I'm also a bit of a control freak and like to know what's going on so just going with things is a little hard for me to swallow.

TasteofChaos What happened in the beginning is that I wasn't really looking for anything, hell I didn't even really like the guy too much (and that's saying something) but as things go feelings have developed and now I've managed to talk myself into and out of talking to him about a million times. In this day and age I don't believe in sleeping with someone too soon, but that's just me.

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Here's the deal with Sag F + Cancer M: When it's good, it's perfect. When it's bad, it's war. There can be harmony, crazy sex, and true love, occasionally. In between all that there can be flying dishes and lots of yelling. In the end, Cancer wants reassurance, Sag wants to have fun and know that you care about her and that you won't saddle her down EVERY day with your homebody ways.

It takes the right Cancer and the right Sag for this to even get close, but like I said, when it's good it's good. My best relationships and best friends have been with and are Sag ladies. I think I read somewhere that most Cancer men marry Sag women, go figure. I'm dating a beautiful blonde sag girl right now and things are awesome.

There is a type of loud and obnoxious Sag that really annoys me, sort of like my arch enemy, Gemini, but I don't run in to them very often.
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Here's the deal with Sag F + Cancer M: When it's good, it's perfect. When it's bad, it's war. There can be harmony, crazy sex, and true love, occasionally. In between all that there can be flying dishes and lots of yelling. In the end, Cancer wants reassurance, Sag wants to have fun and know that you care about her and that you won't saddle her down EVERY day with your homebody ways.

It takes the right Cancer and the right Sag for this to even get close, but like I said, when it's good it's good. My best relationships and best friends have been with and are Sag ladies. I think I read somewhere that most Cancer men marry Sag women, go figure. I'm dating a beautiful blonde sag girl right now and things are awesome.

There is a type of loud and obnoxious Sag that really annoys me, sort of like my arch enemy, Gemini, but I don't run in to them very often.



I loved reading this cancerguy!
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Thanks Cancerguy. I'm still none the wiser as I've not seen him for two weeks. We have texted back and forth and it just seems like at the moment nothing is lining up, which makes me damn impatient (somewhere in the world there is a person who stole my patience and won't give it back).

Probably doesn't help that now all my friends think he's the worlds biggest a-hole because he often doesn't reply to my texts and hell even I've thought that myself, but he replies when he can, if he can, just like all of us.

I spat the dummy after last week when he told me he was really busy but would try and see me when he could. I sat for two days and then thought "you know what I deserve better than this" and so I sent him a I can't do this any more text but two days later I apologized and he replied that he was worried and glad I'm okay. Just proves how impatient I can get sometimes!

Anyway this week has been another week neither of our schedules matching up and I'm starting to feel a little disheartened again. I don't know if I have the capacity to stick this out much longer before chucking in the towel again!
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Holy WOW!!!!! I'm still in a little bit of shock! Either Santa was good to me this year or I did something right by being a little patient and doing my own thing. Maybe my Cancer thought I was ready to walk off the sand and away from his crab dance, but I seem to now have a claw attached to my big toe a little firmer than before.

Last week I was child free, and I texted cancer and he texted back and said he couldn't make time to see me due to one of his children with a broken bone. I didn't reply to his text for a few days (mainly because I was being a but huffy and didn't want to share that with him) and when I did it was very brief and blaze. Anyway it got to Friday and I was at my friends place having a few pre christmas drinks and he texted and asked if he could come over and naturally I said why not.

Anyway so once we got back to my place (I was a bit drunk by this stage) I asked him if he was going to stay the night, which has never happened because usually he's working night shift. He said that we were "working up to organized sleepovers" and that he needed to "take things very slowly" and I had to ask who does organized sleepovers, naturally because Saggies love spontaneous things. Anyway then he asked me if I wanted something more (which threw me because I was planning on asking him that exact thing) and I said I did and did he want something more and he said that he just got out of a serious relationship and that he wanted to take things very slowly with me. Anyway he stayed the night but got up before I'd even woken up and left.

To be honest I'm a little pipped he brought up the serious conversation while I was under the influence of alcohol, but at the same time I am relieved that he asked because I suppose that means he was thinking something similar to me. Still WOW. So now I am unsure as to how I go about bringing up this conversation again for confirmation..........tread lightly or just be straightforward? Decisions decisions!
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I'm beginning to think that there's nothing else here.

I'm starting to lose faith and patience as I am waiting for a good time to tell him how I am feeling, but so far there hasn't been one .....







There was nothing in it besides a fuck from day one, and is the case with all FWB situation. Seriously, do you even comprehend what a FWB relationship is?

Looks like you don't ... for you were actually thinking it was suppose to be something else, and that he was suppose to catch feelings.

Starting to lose faith and patience for what?


oh that's right .... you thought fucking a man without strings attached meant strings attached ..



::::: shakes head :::::



Stupid fucking people
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Here's my two cents... and please don't take it personal.

But going strictly the facts you stated, along with the fact that Cancer and Sag is actually NOT a good match. (for those that don't know off hand... just google it)

First of all the astro aspect is simple. Cancers and Sags are almost polar opposites. Sags are natural travelers and tend to have a 'gypsy' like quality, they have many friends from all over, they can literally live by the seat of their pants - Cancers love home, security, and being surrounded by family. Sages have a need to explore and need to be constantly moving in order to be stimulated. They are risk takers and tend to move in and out of relationships more frequently than that of the cancerian. This is more obvious when the Cancer is a woman, and the Sag man. (mainly because Cancer women are very vocal and wear their emotions on their sleeve)

Now given the fact that this was the opposite... and also (in addition) given the facts that you've laid out here; It sounds like your Cancer man did not feel secure thus taking the other route, and leaving you as the FWB, nothing more. Also, a Leo moon is definitely going to play a part as well.

Simple fact - both signs have the ability to be 'hot n heavy' when the mood is right. But the factors that figure in actually KEEPING that Cancer/Leo guy there are calculated on a totally separate plain. Both Cancer and Leo look to women that are old fashioned and traditional when it comes to relationships.

Going on your facts, it looks like you didn't waste too much time in starting an immediate sexual relationship with this guy. (not to judge you - because we all have done it) You guys had already established a sexual relationship in less than 2 months. It sounded like you had a routine in place, and he knew what time it was.

Bottom line - 1) you might have been gf material at first, and he back out after figuring it's not for him. or 2) He figured out what the deal was beforehand, and never had the intention of being in a relationship in the first place.

BOTH Cancer and Leo need attention and someone to hound them in order to feed their self esteem. Unfortunately if you don't fit picky Leo's mold, or sooth Cancer's need to stability; you're a FWB and nothing more.