Mars-Pluto contacts in synastry, hatred or attraction?

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I am experiencing this right now and I feel like I cannot decide if I am attracted to her or if I just genuinely hate her to the point of wanting her to be miserable.

I know it is generational so I only consider it an aspect if it is less than 3 degrees but I cannot decide how to describe what I am feeling. It's like when lust has a baby with hate. It's like you'd be willing to die for someone but on another day see them as your worst enemy.
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I've got pluto in opposition to my Cancer ex's Mars.

He frustrates the crap out of me. I broke up with him in December after 2.5 years and didn't realise I love him til a few weeks ago when he said he'll always love me. I didn't know he loved me because he has a shit way of showing it but I'm not the most verbally expressive of emotion unless it's frustration. I can express frustration like a mofo. We're so different but so opinionated and stubborn. Communication was frustrating as hell because we never agree on anything but we love each other anyway for some unknown reason and show it in completely different ways that neither of us can grasp the otherr. It's so annoying. Anyway, I feel ya. It's Cray Cray.
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

I see what you mean about the “should I stay or should I go”. There is distance between the guy and I and I typically don’t do LDR, I think we both are hesitant to do LDR. But also still drawn to each other. I sense some hot/cold behavior on his end, so then I fall back and give him space. But then when I fall back he comes back in heavy pursuit. So it’s confusing and has a push/pull effect.
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Most definitely!! In so many ways. And it can be hot on minute and then real cold. And thats what kinda makes it difficult to move on. When youre rewdy to give up the heat turns on. But mine were just too destructive
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

I see what you mean about the “should I stay or should I go”. There is distance between the guy and I and I typically don’t do LDR, I think we both are hesitant to do LDR. But also still drawn to each other. I sense some hot/cold behavior on his end, so then I fall back and give him space. But then when I fall back he comes back in heavy pursuit. So it’s confusing and has a push/pull effect.

Most definitely!! In so many ways. And it can be hot on minute and then real cold. And thats what kinda makes it difficult to move on. When youre rewdy to give up the heat turns on. But mine were just too destructive

Thankfully I have not noticed any toxic behavior in our situation. We are both older (40 and 44) and self aware so I think we will be able to maintain a friendship even if it doesn’t work out. We have a lot of other warm and fuzzy aspects, so I’m hoping it balances out. So far I’m grateful to have met him. His Neptune is trine my north node, we have only been talking for a few months and I already feel that he has aided in my growth. I had a lot of resentment and pain from a past relationship that I’ve held onto for the past 3 years (cancer moon) and he is the first to give me that sense of a “breath of fresh air” and give me hope that there is still a chance for love. I have recently gone through a stage where I was feeling hopeless and wasn’t willing to move backward, but wasn’t moving forward either. I’ve been stuck in emotional limbo for 3 years and he is gently helping push me over that threshold. 😍😍😍❤️
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Follow that feeling. You sound happy af and astrology aside, follow that. I hope it goes good for you! Bless up!!
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Posted by Libra4rmTX

Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.


what if double whammy?
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Posted by Libra4rmTX

Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

what if double whammy?
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My only experience with it going both ways was that it was better off left alone. BUT thats just my solo experience. Only a fool would have kept going on in that situation. But I can say that when it went both ways, you could see multiple elements of mars-pluto aspects
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

what if double whammy?

My only experience with it going both ways was that it was better off left alone. BUT thats just my solo experience. Only a fool would have kept going on in that situation. But I can say that when it went both ways, you could see multiple elements of mars-pluto aspects
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What are examples of the elements?

I have this trine with someone at 0 degrees and then conjunct at 2 degrees.
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

what if double whammy?

My only experience with it going both ways was that it was better off left alone. BUT thats just my solo experience. Only a fool would have kept going on in that situation. But I can say that when it went both ways, you could see multiple elements of mars-pluto aspects

What are examples of the elements?

I have this trine with someone at 0 degrees and then conjunct at 2 degrees.
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When it's this close degrees you both should feel what is going on with that aspect.
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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That shit was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that shit was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.



When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

what if double whammy?

My only experience with it going both ways was that it was better off left alone. BUT thats just my solo experience. Only a fool would have kept going on in that situation. But I can say that when it went both ways, you could see multiple elements of mars-pluto aspects

What are examples of the elements?

I have this trine with someone at 0 degrees and then conjunct at 2 degrees.

When it's this close degrees you both should feel what is going on with that aspect.
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yeah unfortunately, please kill me