Need a hug

Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Normally I can rationalize all of this but my Venus in Sagittarius has me always looking so optimistically at relationships ..... my scorpio traits have me loyal as hell...... and my Capricorn has me fighting to keep what I love at ALL COSTS! Sometimes I fight for love when the other person no longer loves as intensely ..... From all the research I've done so far in my chart... it seems so far that I am someone that was doomed to have bad relationships at least at first...... my True North Node is in the house of relationships and says I am to look forward to having a WONDERFUL marriage that will benefit and grow me for the rest of my life..... which is exactly the type of relationship I want.

I currently am dating an Aqua sun, scorpio moon, venus in Capricorn, his mars is in aquarius too.. I can't really accurately see his houses since I don't know the time of his birth so this is about all I can really go with is his signs in the planets and such and such. But even then there is a lot to know for someone who just found their birth chart a few weeks ago.
I am a Sun scorpio, scorpio moon, venus in Sagittarius and mars in Capricorn.... my rising is Scorpio and his rising is Taurus which from what I hear is a well balanced pairing right there.....

Him and I are two people in this world that truly have hearts of gold... we are a rare pair to find and as loyal and trustworthy as they come. If you ask his friends about him or my friends about me all you would hear is great things. We are both single parents... in my situation my son's father is not in the picture at all..... I do it all on my own with my own money and none of his.... I chose that..... now him..... well a little over a year ago he got a divorce from a cheating wife that put him thru the ringer emotionally... and he begged her to come back even after all she did to him... 13 years with the same person and the had a child not even 2 years before they finally come down to the divorce... his daughter is 3 my son is 5.....

everything is great.... but after time and us settling in..... and our scorpio moons becoming intertwined with each other..... his care free and forgetful aquarius sun and mars was in the process of getting him unintentionally hurting me..... getting too involved with hobbies and activities that I get neglected... I have so far been very very VERY patient and as understanding as I possibly can be ...... I did start letting my emotions get the better of me a few times .
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
not yelling or anything but sometimes it would be pointed statements of how I was doing 100% for him and not feeling that in return.... that I would just get forgotten. He would always tell me that everything was fine and not to be so upset. But for me... it wasn't the end of the world NO.... but the more I am neglected or left to silence the more I feel rejected or unwanted... and the longer I go without seeing him the more miserable and sad I become. I'm someone that uses google to find motivational quotes almost daily to keep me going strong.. or looking up his chart information in detail to find something in it all to keep me from continuing to be sad. I don't want to hurt or be sad.. I want to be happy in love... my venus wants to be happy and playful with him... but from our scorpio moons our relationship when we are together is very intense..... we are so connected when we are together... it almost feels like he is the missing piece of who I am.. the one that picks up where I leave off.

We parent the same.... the same strong hard working ethic, the same morals and values.... but I am starting to think that me getting so emotional and hard on him is just making things worse... like he has such low self esteem that when we are fine he is on cloud nine and doing all the things that make him happy... but when he's down because i'm unhappy with my neglect..... he has to go into his tomb and become silent... (lately he's been doing it even without things really being wrong with us)... I CANNOT be happy either if he is not happy.... I am trying so hard to be patient and understanding and trying to keep my neediness to a minimum but it's difficult.... and a lot of my friends think its unhealthy for me but honestly if they think back to my last two relationships this is NOTHING... if I can persist and stay strong thru this I am hoping for a positive outcome once he works thru this.... but am I being too optimistic? Am I just setting myself up to be with someone that just isn't ready and won't be ready....... will my mind every just shutup long enough that I can be happy and wait for him to come to me instead of being the one to cave every time and text when he's silent... I just don't believe in waiting so long..... today is a gift and tomorrow isn't guaranteed.

His daughter and I are very close too. He immersed me in his heart, home and world so quickly... and now I don't even know what I am suppose to do to make him happy because I feel like I just m
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
do to make him happy because I feel like I just make him more miserable....

I am in love with this guy... we are in a committed relationship.... not a very long one but we have the blessings of a mutual friend that introduced me to him at his request. Ugh..... someone please give me a hug...... or 100....... I know he is WORTH IT...... and I am worth it too. If he can learn to open up to me even a little instead of going silent and retreating this relationship would be (for me) just about perfect.

Sad scorpio 😢
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
We have been together for 4 months. 4 already fast feeling months. What he has told me from the first time he went away when I asked why he wasn't responding what that he didn't know why he did that. The next time he said he needed time alone to work on parts of him he didn't like. Which I think all comes from when I get on him about the neglabout. When things get back to being okay he seems to be listening a bit to the problems I have. Like now he seems to answer the phone more when I am pretty sure he just wants space. This last time which was very much my fault and just being hormonal he asked if I wanted a break and I said no way because to me that's the same feeling as being broken up and I don't want that. I asked where we stood still because after I calmed a little and so did he at the end of the phone call he said the same place we have since the beginning. I've tried to find comfort in that and not pick it apart but I am terrified of losing him. I called the next morning and apologized deeply that he didn't deserve that hormonal infused drama and that I couldn't honestly remember what all I even said to him and he responded awwww. I think letting him have so much control over our relationship right now is extremely uncomfortable because I don't know if he is doing it because he just doesn't want to see me or talk to me or if something else is the reason and I have nothing to even worry about other than missing him terribly. My friends and female family are shocked I'm trying so hard with this guy and say they couldn't handle all that. I know he would be dumb to let someone like me go because the odds of finding someone like me again with him being a divorcee and having a daughter and him being in his mid 30s is rare. But equally I feel the same about him. I spent my life waiting to find a guy that had all the characteristics I wanted and here he is. Plus I don't want to Keep freaking out For no reason just because I'm terrified of losing him. I sound lilike a crazy lady don't I? I'm normally very very confident with a good deal of self worth and esteem. Ugh
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
@Tiziani. I would give anything in the world for that reassurance that everything is fine.

@Starchild. That is my fear. I told him day one that if he can handle my emotional side we will be just fine. I think they knock him down and he is keeping distance to let me return to normal. But a lot of the time the space he gives is really for himself and not for me. I think it makes him feel he isn't good enough. And I always apologize and try to make it right. My main issue is that I want more time with him. I see him now every 2-4 weeks it seems like. And usually it's not quality time. Its us chasing one or both of our kids around then we go to bed and we wake up early and I am having to leave cause He has things to do. We don't get that time like we did in the beginning to connect. When we are together we are perfect. we don't even really have to communicate to read each other. Super gratifying when we are together in person. Away with that distance. Well it's much harder on me. And when I voice that being sad or upset that his friends get to see him constantly and I don't feel very important he tends to be sweet about it but then gives me distance. Which is making it harder and harder on me. I shake with nervousness that he will leave mainly cause that is typically what would happen. One of my Aquarius guy friends says I am just over thinking it all. The other aqua guy friend has no idea what is wrong with him cause he always wants to be near his girl. But neither are single parents like us. And neither have just been divorced a year ago fYom a 13 year relationship that he had thought they would be together forever. We both don't want to be hurt and both have good hearts and are kind people.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
If we were in a longer relationship with the security of knowing I was important then I wouldn't be as scared. I made the mistake last Sunday of asking him if he was even ready For a relationship when he asked me to be his gf and he said probably not. 😢 I'm intuitive granted my powers aren't very strong at all when I am this sad but I feel like I'm about to be let go. And I know this will be what cause me to avoid relationships for probably years cause I won't get over him.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Well I am very open with my emotions.... I've learned just over time that things work out easier with friends, family and strangers that I almost need to explain my emotions... So to be honest I might not clearly communicate every sentence I say but I do my best to not let him worry. I've given him tips too on how to deal with me at these times... some of the things I mentioned or told him he's been able to implement already. Like knowing that I will beat myself in his absence of talking to me worrying about him and us. Like aqua's generally do... he doesn't say what he feels.... but when I'm with him I VERY MUCH see what he feels in his face and how he treats me. He's a tough cookie when it comes to standing tall..... but he's soft as butter inside, I can tell. But without communication from his end .... even just a little this relationship has been doomed. I finally had enough last night. Another day of trying to reach out and just try and be playful with him like we normally are... something hasn't been right with him... I don't know if its me, his life, baby momma, work, money..... but I do know he's distance himself from me and he knows what that does to me. I just can't do this relationship without him putting in his half .... which he hasn't been. I went quiet during Christmas, New Years and now his birthday he talked to me that morning and said he'd call me and didn't.... so I called him to see if I should have my mom watch my son.... instead he just ignored the call. I was very upset but I cooled down and shook it off before texting him two days later saying I wasn't mad that he didn't answer the phone.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Well I wouldn't say that at all. I think he General loves me and deeply. And I him. But he still hasn't responded,to the message about thinking we should break up and why from last night. It left it open for him to keep us together but I need more than what I am getting right now. I'm worth the effort as much effort as I was putting in him doesn't even have to be a that. I'd take half just to get him to at least talk to me or be willing to spend at least one day a week with me. I guess all the emotions and stress just are too much to handle. I can only guess right now what he is thinking. It could be that he is thinking this is too much for him and wanting to bail or he's very down by all of this and is distancing himself to figure it out. But I wish he would just speak up and talk to me instead. Maybe if at the least he was giving me reassurance about his affection for me while he was not seeing me. But I know aquas won't do it. All I know is that regardless of our signs nothing will work in this relationship without compromise and talking. The effects of what I told him are slowly sturing in me and I know each day I don't hear from him will be worse than the last.
Profile picture of DwellingOnMove
DwellingOnMove
@DwellingOnMove
16 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 305 · Posts: 14219 · Topics: 239
"Maybe if at the least he was giving me reassurance about his affection for me while he was not seeing me. But I know aquas won't do it."

The water bearer thinks he/she must be free so available to blow out a fire.
When they see they feel something for only one Person or this person wants to have them for only him/herself, the Aqua becomes aloof. I guess. I explain it that way to myself.
Profile picture of DwellingOnMove
DwellingOnMove
@DwellingOnMove
16 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 305 · Posts: 14219 · Topics: 239
Leo, Taurus, Aqua and Scorpio. They are very powerful for each other.

Look what a Scorpio can achieve with an Aqua, a Sag can only dream of it.

On the other hand they may be blinded by the fact that they caged the lion. they go so far that they may lose their game. Squares are difficult.


It was a general statement so your thread has more lines. I don't claim that you have done something ridiculous to your Aqua. How could you with Sagi venus?
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
@Tiziani. Sorry sometimes I just write what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it. My brain dissects everything to then dissects that same thing again and again to find the truth in it. My message was my attempt to put everything out there. That this was making both of us unhappy. I told him in the long text That if he still wanted me that things would need to change. I don't feel I ask for much but he totally makes me feel like I am. Like My requerequests are me saying he isn't worthy of me. Now it seems like he's getting the hang of my outbursts and instead is using dismissive irritation when I get upset. Which only makes me more upset like he is challenging my emotions head on. Stupid I know but no other way to explain it.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Dwellingonmove - wow!

Yes squares,are so tough but I LOVE the challenge and even the conflict sometimes. Its at least never boring. Other than me letting my emotional side out on him and usually about him forgetting about me and our plans or me not getting to see him for two weeks. First time I got upset was when he went for a motorcycle ride with a group and thought it was a 3 hour ride at most. Turns out it was an all day ride and we had planned to meet each other later in the day when my parents had my son. The next time I got upset it was because we had plans to have no kids and a just us night at My house. He calls me just before he was suppose to be here and tells me friends came in town and HAD to see them for at least a beer. Was gonna call me back when he got a better idea on time. I wasn't happy but I let it go. He calls back to tell me he has no idea when he will be over and that he didn't want to argue about it. Told me to go out by myself and he would,just meet me up later. I was of course very very upset And told him whatever. That whatever caused him to not come over or answer my calls or texts and I didn't see him for another three weeks. After that I've been terrified of causing him to do that again because it caused,me so much pain having him leave cause he had to " take time to work on things he didn't like about himself" I respected that and gave him space. Things were okay for two weeks when we started talking again till he started getting busy with work and friends and not calling. ..... Anyway you get the point. It all led to this. What can I do? I keep trying to give him what he needs but also not sacrificing all of mine so not to be miserable. I didn't know what else to do. I felt cornered by the whole situation. Time will tell if he wants me or not. He's a really good guy but he's being too careless.

Haha and yes my venus in sag is my saving Grace in all this scorpio and cap. Its it's like eating super dark mocha chocolate but then adding a ton of whipped cream and cherries on top lol maybe some little marshmallows and m&ms too hahaha Mmmm
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
That sag part of me comes in great with making friends as I'm always the goofy ice breaker and usually pin the joke on myself since my appearance,to some can be intimidating. I love,to,make my guy laugh though. Aquarius goes so well with my personality just because of the combination of laughter,weird,jokes. Shocking each other And our intelligences,,shoot I'm a biologist and give lectures and work with museums and zoos and such. I'm a hot nerd what more could an Aquarius man ask for lol
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Well it's how we handle our emotions. He is very sensitive. I know him and I both don't want to get hurt. Its only been 4 months but a if we sit and analyze our time together as I know he does and is when this happens. There is nothing when we are together that is bad. Its all great. But his,disappearing when times get rough and my emotions when I get scared that he doesn't want me around get us like this when we aren't around each other for awhile. Well if he loves me he will be back when things have calmed down or when he thinks I have calmed down. Or that will be it. I can't fight for a relationship alone. If we love each other we just have to accept each other entirely But at least work on problem areas so they aren't as much of a problem anymore. If he doesn't want to improve which with a aqua sun, scorpio moon, Taurus rising, and Capricorn venus he's a hard worker and loyal. I think he enjoys having someone that makes him want to be a better person and I with him. He hasn't replied which is typical when he needs to thinthink we both have scorpio moons so he can sympathize a lot with how I feel it's just not how he deals with it. He's a guy that constantly needs to be appreciated and loved.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Yup he pursued me with A LOT of effort... probably more effort than he thinks I know about but his friend told me everything haha.... we talked for a week on the phone met up and he just went nuts when we finally were alone... He kept grabbing my face and staring deep into my eyes and just in complete wonderment..... constantly asking me why he liked me so much and how crazy all of this was..... we talked for another week on the phone and went to an art festival together the next weekend and had a blast... we click as a couple.... (maybe cause we both are scorpio moons and my mars is Capricorn and his venus is Capricorn... his rising sign is Taurus and mine is the opposite Scorpio which I hear is a great pairing).....

let me say this.. we are both odd people... In my life anything that has every brought me great job was neither done the right way or in the right order....... NEVER..... my kid, my house, my personality..... my heart.... all of it was so crazy and backwards....

The reason why honestly I think i'll hear back from him after he's done with whatever he's going thru is because this is like the third time he's done it.... I've seen how he looks at me.... his daughter and I are close, if you saw how we were together u'd think we have been together for years. Very comfortable around each other....... he tosses me his daughter's shirt and I go get the stain out..... she gets chicken pots I hold her up on the counter while he puts medicine on them. Neither one of us has done anything tragically wrong.... his flaw is hiding away while dealing with issues..... and mine is getting emotional.

Either way if he does or doesn't come back.... at least I know I was true to how I feel..... this is who I am and we have to accept each other for our flaws too. Outside of all that it's just gonna take time for us to figure those flaws out so we can be a better couple... I think we have the integrity to go the distance with this.... and I do think he says this a little more harshly than he means them... I catch him doing that all the time and gets shocked when he sees it's hurt me cause he didn't mean it to be hurtful.

I dunno... my mom and friends don't get this all either.... for some reason I do..... guess that's why I've been so patient with him instead of doing what my friends all said (including guy friends) and that's to move on to someone who's less work..... but once a scorpio moon plants their heart on you... it's hard to remove that..... and
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Okay I think I just now figured out what you were asking.......... cause that came I think from another post......

I am in a relationship.... but my aquarius guy likes to disappear and brood.... over slight things as well as bigger things... anything that can hurt him being sensitive as he is. I had always been extremely loyal and patient with him during his times he needed to himself.

But when he is gone I do tend to get insecure and emotional which hence the text that I sent him Sunday. So I guess I think of it like this... he knows and appreciates that I go out of my way to try and let him be himself..... but he does tend to go away more around holidays... we did spend Thanksgiving together..... and his daughter's HUGE birthday party with all his close friends and their families there. We have so far always come back together when the things calm down. There is failure from that divorce I think that keeps him thinking he isn't good enough. Self esteem might be low... I just try to be there for him. Hopefully he is equally as forgiving and understanding with my emotional stuff as well... we just show it and deal with it in different ways. Outside that... we are AWESOME when we are together IN PERSON.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
Oh and the valentine's day present to myself is just incase he doesn't come back or doesn't come back in time....... he hasn't said he wanted a break up ..... he's always avoided that sort of talk cause he doesn't want to.... I feel like my emotional state just makes him worse because of how sensitive he is.... so I felt it was better to go if he didn't want me..... I don't want to drag someone further down because of my emotional insecurities when i'm alone for along time not talking to him. He hasn't responded to my last message.... but that's pretty typical for him
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
He didn't answer his phone. I'm done. All my friends thought he was a jerk for the way he was treating me and I kept finding excuses. I just can't be with someone who let's me suffer while I constantly bend for him. Plain and simple he wasn't ready for a real relationship yet after that divorce. I'm so mad I could spit. Upset at myself for once again putting too much into a guy who wasn't ready. I think it's best to just stay single and celebit at this point. Just focus on my public education work my kid animals and house. Thanks for y'alls feedback I really appreciate it. Hopefully things will look up from here on out. Well here is for hoping.
Profile picture of VanillaShake
VanillaShake
@VanillaShake
10 Years

Comments: 0 · Posts: 155 · Topics: 12
If it's self sabotage and I treat my closest guy friends the same as my lovers only add in the occasional romance with the lovers. How come all of them can put up with me? I dunno I don't think I do anything wrong and I always get positive messages from ex's down the road about How I was a great woman. I think I've just been unlucky with the guys I've been with. They just aren't ready. I could handle it better But my guy friends tell me to stop blaming it on my emotions that a guy should love me for my good and bad qualities and this guy is being a jerk. Aquarius or not he himself said he was probably not ready for a relationship when he met me. He may love and care for me but putting me on hold to work on yourself is not cool.
Profile picture of DwellingOnMove
DwellingOnMove
@DwellingOnMove
16 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 305 · Posts: 14219 · Topics: 239
Posted by tiziani
Does it really matter what other people say? ...

All my female friends can say whatever they like to comfort me on the outside but they don't have to come home to or live with me so it's just words. The only two opinions that matter are the two people who actually lived out the relationship itself.

I agree with you cause I think we use too much rationalisation to go through life.

The best reaction I saw to a breakup was from a Pisces male. He said, "it did not work".

Vanill needs not to doubt herself or him or the time or children or anything else which played a role in this game. All is Imperfect. All is real. All goes the way laws of physics/chemyistry/creator/whatever define for them.

We can only give our best. Or sometimes give little and wait. Gambling.