Religions and Atheism must be taught at elementary

In grade 11 i took "world religions" and i learned a great deal about others religions and that some of my view were stemming from bigotry.

the problem is when u go to a new school thats primarily white and upper class they tend to have sterotypes. this was in grade 8 now im in grade 12 in a more multicultural school.

ok the problem is on the first day when they ask you where your turban went, hey rag head and is your god an elephant?

ok first of all I am muslim.
2nd i am bengali(from bangladesh near india)
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i do not wear turbans or rags on my head. Sikhs waer turbans as a religious right. and arabs and beduins wear them to keep their head cool and keep out the sand.

my god is not an elephant, it is a being of light.

this makes me want to reiterate that we should teach kids about a persons religion and a right to respect them also teach them to respect atheism. start them young so it makes it harder for the parents to brainwash them in the future. even though some might consider this a waste on the curriculum i consider it necessary.

Yeah,I agree with you it's even annoying to people who aren't a directly involved with this or that religion or whatever to put up with some of the stupidity some parents put into thier kids heads.Two days after the world trade center attack I had a maybe twelve year old kid come up to me and ask if I hated afganistan,which just kinda left me standing there like um how would you hate a country that you don't know anything about besides the little bit taught in school about the agriculture,location,etc.etc. and how much do you know about it to "hate" it?It was living in a smaller town in ohio when that was asked but the first half of my life was spent in a detroit public school that was very multicultured so it confused me as to the stereotyping because my first impressionary years those things were never an issue.Or at least would've like to have been taught something more so maybe I could've responded in a less confused way basically it just rubbed me the wrong way as to knowing it was just a emotional ranting and most likely ignorant about it too parent putting hate into thier kids.

Go to National Geographic on the net. Check out the Genographic projact find out about the 60,000 D N A Adam.interesting. I did this most amazing

We already had special schools that mainly taught Religion. But they were removed couple of years ago because they started to serve as brainwash centers. I dont think teaching religion in early years are good. People mostly get brainwashed by that and they hardly start to accept worldly things which creates alot of problems as for them and for the people they live with.

Illmatic

Nice to know you man...and thank you for being here...

special schools in what country haffo?
do you mean from turkey?
north america is different

i dont mean special religious schools.
they are bad concept becasue

1) they teach about only one religion and have biased opinions favoring that religion

2) their taught by "infidels" mullahs that lack the concept of independant thought, bascially they teach u to follow religiious rules not question why they were created in the first place

3) they teach FEAR not RESPECT of god

4) the students grow up as sheep not theologians

we have the same sh*t in bangladesh and they suck. i attended one like that in new york city as a child. my parents thought that by going there i would understand islam better. the only thing i learned was that islam was beatiful thing but it was taught by absolute idiots.

here are some examples
-my teachers could only pronounce words in arabic but they could never translate it
(its like being able to read spanish/french but not have any idea what ur reading)
(MOST BENGALIS CAN READ ARABIC ONCE U GET THE PRONOUNCIATION AND GRAMMER DONE
BUT THEY CANT UNDERSTAND ARABIC)
-it was being under the taliban/nazi germany
-they threw stuff at u and embarrased u ( humilation in a religious school)
-im thinking it was nothing more than a terrorist front to brainwash us
-or a money making scheme

now im not advocating religious schools no no
IM ADVOCATING DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS AND ATHEISTIC POINT OF VIEWS TO BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.

IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS YOUR NOT UNDER ANY RELIGOUS BIAS, MAYBE GOVERNTMENT BIAS. BUT NO RELIGIOUS BIAS.

trust me on this
a grade three teacher can teach religion better than a priest/mullah or any religious figure head.

haffo, also because im a bad communicator, i may have typed my information incorrectly on my first post. if that was the case i am truely sorry.

Qbone
no thank you ur topics are needless to say enlightening

and btw this is off topic and has no place here but i cant find where u posted that topic on the russian fighter plane so i have to post it here sadly

-it is the SU-37 becasue it was using thrust vectoring
-jin mentioned that the americans invented the concept of thrust vectoring in 1990s
i think they did but the russians were fisrt to use the idea in a fighter plane
- the F-22 uses thrust vectoring too BUT its first glihht was in 1997 and it wont reach productin since 2004( but congress is still stallignt he project calling it "too expensive" but i could be wrong they could be building it as we speak
- the Su-37 was shown at the Farnbrough International Air Show in 1996 SO technically it cme out bebore the F-22

-i think u mean the Su-37 was based on the Su-27 design

-the americans have a semi VTOL plane now called the f-35 Joint Strike Fighter
they have three versions. the AV-8B Harrier was a V/STOL plane

a) Conventional Takeoff and Landing (CTOL) cost $ 28 million for Air force

b) Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing (STOVL) cost $ 35M for marines and royal navy

c) Carrier-based (CV) for $ 38M for US navy

the russians are testing a new type of fighter to match the f-22. it called the S-37(sU-37). now i think it has been given the designation Su-47 Berkut(golden eagle) ot reverse, backwards or forward swept wing fighter taken from another NASA design years ago, the X-29. it the only fighter plane of its kind in the world i think.

and heres my proof taken from the website www.fas.org (or federation of american scientists)

Bibliography

Non-american and non-british aircraft in general
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/index.html<BR>
Su-37
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-37.htm<BR>
X-31 (vectored thrust demostrator)
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-31.htm<BR>
Su-27
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/su-27.htm<BR>
the harrier
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/av-8.htm<BR>
the F-35 joint strike fighter(i call it the advanced economy fighter)
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-35.htm<BR>
S-37 or Su-47 Berkut
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/s-37.htm<BR>
X-29( the berkut uses the forward swept wing concept from this plane)
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-29.htm<BR>
basically the U.S. will spend billions researching a project and russians will look at that and buidl a fighter plane or other military plane and one tenth the cost in american dollars.

Illmatic

I know. This is a culture stuff. People mostly suck. This behaviour you come up with is just a proof of that. Like everywhere else most people speak out of their a $ $ . Things that they already know from common culture of their country is what they take as granted. They never know how difficult it was gained. They are not aware of that. Here in Turkey there is alot of such problems. 11th grade people are still kids. Don't take them seriously.

I know this way doesn't solve the problem. People do not respect the differencies. What you can do? Declare war to all of them? No, I don't think so. Better learn how things work and defeat them on their territory.

I know this way doesn't solve the problem. People do not respect the differencies. What you can do? Declare war to all of them? No, I don't think so. Better learn how things work and defeat them on their territory.