Sag sun, moon in Capricorn, venus in Scorpio.

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Anyone with this placements please eloborate... What I feel from this man so far is closed to a living hell lol.., he feels so intensely and covered it all up with rediculiisly dry humour most of the time whether that will b pain or happiness. Extremely mysterious which according to him believe to be a good thig. Play mind games to get extreme reaction... Don't trust anybody.( trust me though). one sentence. I can live with and can't live without him... I dot know how to stop the mysterious and stop his little childish mind game... it annoys the crap out of me. Insights plz !!!!
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Posted by SunTauVenGem
Anyone with this placements please eloborate... What I feel from this man so far is closed to a living hell lol.., he feels so intensely and covered it all up with rediculiisly dry humour most of the time whether that will b pain or happiness. Extremely mysterious which according to him believe to be a good thig. Play mind games to get extreme reaction... Don't trust anybody.( trust me though). one sentence. I can live with and can't live without him... I dot know how to stop the mysterious and stop his little childish mind game... it annoys the crap out of me. Insights plz !!!!



The moon in capricorn thinks that emotions are a weakness, a vulnerability. I have a hard time with emotions. I want to be excited. I might feel it inside, but I can't show it. Perhaps learn to read the expressions in his eyes - that would be a give away. Only people really close to me know how I'm feeling about something. Dry humor. Yep. It's the only kind I know.

Scorpio venus is a very suspicious and cautious placement. There are only a few people I trust completely and those are people I've known for a long, long time. The trust is earned. So, keep doing what you're doing. There's a lot of passion with that placement - sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing.

I think the more you get to know him, the more he will let down his guard. How long have you known him?
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I dot know how to stop the mysterious and stop his little childish mind game... it annoys the crap out of me. Insights plz !!!!



"stop it?"
So the going is "like it, change it or leave it".
How are you gonna change the nature of a stone? It is born to be a stone. You just have to learn to live with it as a stone.
One thing I learned in life is that some people are so stubborn they can wait for the victory until they are dead or the object of their issue is dead.
Isn't Scorpio not the sign related to power but also death?

I have never tested it at all. But it is written that you need to play them out. Speak you distract their minds with things which are not important to you, perform an imitation of a fight and let them win. So they beleive they found out how devoted you are.

How would you act if you're a mother and have problems with your child? Do it the same way.

It means go into the mouth of a lion and come back healthy.

I'd say the bigger issue is whether you know what are his actual needs, what would make him happy, if you have common things or what would you get from them. I mean there are lots of people intellectually busy with how they can change their FWB to a fiance. They never ask themselves if they could realy have a family life with such a person after his walls are down.
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My answer is also based on my impression that Scorp and Cap are stronger than SagSun and get the power over the person. My brain may be entrapped but for now I can say whenever I see a Sag with Scorp inisde, it has more of a Scorp taste for me.

Don't you find that he gets his back smile like he found he was too sweet before? In my observation such people have some Capricorn in the prominent chart placements. Example George Ezra and Cris Cab. They have Moon in Capricorn.
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Use the versatility of Gem parts in you to be flexible to him. Your Virgo ascendant is your friend when working together with his CapMoon.
His Sag will be bored by Virgo critics. But this Mister has nothing to say. He is put aside by Scorp and Cap.
He is attracted to you and overwhelmed by the idea of the power struggles he could start against his power-exclaimer-fellows Taurus and Aqua.

Now what could be the end Situation?
1. Your two Aqua and two Gems get bored. They change the relationship to an open one while CapScorp make plans for revenge.

2. Your Taurus and Virgo get stuck in KEEPING process. Everything is all right. Aqua and Gem find some originality in Scorp way of life and say yes too.

3. other Scenarios.
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Use the versatility of Gem parts in you to be flexible to him. Your Virgo ascendant is your friend when working together with his CapMoon.
His Sag will be bored by Virgo critics. But this Mister has nothing to say. He is put aside by Scorp and Cap.
He is attracted to you and overwhelmed by the idea of the power struggles he could start against his power-exclaimer-fellows Taurus and Aqua.

Now what could be the end Situation?
1. Your two Aqua and two Gems get bored. They change the relationship to an open one while CapScorp make plans for revenge.

2. Your Taurus and Virgo get stuck in KEEPING process. Everything is all right. Aqua and Gem find some originality in Scorp way of life and say yes too.

3. other Scenarios.

I can not agree more when your ending scenerios.. Our relationship go from number one to number two then brake up then back to number one then number 2. It's a living hell ..... for now it's ended as I told him I didn't trust him anymore last night n ofcoz he backfired on me saying what's if he falls in love with any girl or if he is with someone else... So I told him he can be with whoever he desires if it makes him happy... I am over this but I keep coming back for more. I don't know what to say.
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I didn't trust him anymore ... he ... saying ... if he is with someone else... So I told him he can be with whoever he desires


So you fell in his trap of power struggle by pointing to trust issues? So he is free for games while we call him a player?

BTW why do we need "trust" at all? Things never turn out the way you expect. What does 100% trust help if I am the one who feels unhappy, bored or destroyed? I know my Scorp is a liar but I don't care. It is more amusing to me than making me mad.

In my experience never say never with a Scorp. There will be a next round. But always check your actual interests. Do you need commitment so we have a reliable ethics? or do you need epiphanies and advantures. How well does work/school go? things like that. are you still a kind hearted Person or did the power struggle make a depressive one out of you.
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I didn't trust him anymore ... he ... saying ... if he is with someone else... So I told him he can be with whoever he desires


So you fell in his trap of power struggle by pointing to trust issues? So he is free for games while we call him a player?

BTW why do we need "trust" at all? Things never turn out the way you expect. What does 100% trust help if I am the one who feels unhappy, bored or destroyed? I know my Scorp is a liar but I don't care. It is more amusing to me than making me mad.

In my experience never say never with a Scorp. There will be a next round. But always check your actual interests. Do you need commitment so we have a reliable ethics? or do you need epiphanies and advantures. How well does work/school go? things like that. are you still a kind hearted Person or did the power struggle make a depressive one out of you.
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After I messaged him asking, so would it make u feel more comfortable if we end it? Just let me know. I heard nothing so I said I will stick to the top message that he can b with whoever he desires if it makes him all that's all it matters to me. He seen it but never responded. most recent post on fb he puts one of the hottest girl name in there tagging girl there. Last night we talked hugged n he said he has no friends coz he doesn't trust anyone but me. Now out of the blue this girl comes up in the picture. you are right bout never say never. He destroys me but recharge my energy and brings me to my best.. He's a drug I don't wanna have.. I don't know what to say. I want a partner who can look me in the face and tell me how much he loves me and he wants me only. Why play game. Why do these things. I hope he stay out and not drag me back again. In all honestly I am filled with hatred coz he could b lying to me with about anything. I can't trust him no more. Its gone.. The relationship is over. I'm the kindness most passionate person. I bought him a beautiful gift yesterday coz he got redundant from work. Now I am filled with hatred. I am never depressed with him but yes he makes me think about him 24/7 but now I feel very free . My airy placements are flying with so much joy...... I don't understand myself either .
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I fell for his game. Last night after we spent romantic moments together he said he was going to his mums. He took forever to get ready. Trying 3 different jackets. Shaved etc. Mins went on I started to feel suspicious. I kept saying if he's really going to his mums coz he's wayyyyyy too overdressed. He made sure he looked gorgeous it made me a little jealous. I said to him if he was going out he can tell me ofcoz he kept it on a grey level not telling anything. He made sure he looked amazing but when I came over he was dressed so casual n didn't even shape. He created the environment to dig deep into my insecurities which I don't have? He managed to play those games and did it well. Ofcoz after that I told him I didn't trust him anymore. His face expression changed completely. I can not deal with cheaters. 😢 his a difficult person. I hope he stays out of my life for good he is no good for me ...😢
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"I want a "

This is the point with Scorps. You want something? Why do you want something? He knows better.

Today enjoy your happiness of freedom.
In a few days if the urge comes back, imagine you are a mother and your child is stubborn and wants to dictate things upon you. Would you hate your child? No. You have to find ways to give them the power and be still alive. There you'll see you have learned from them too. "everything that kills me makes me feel alive".
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Sometime people are more difficult than just seen with one placement or aspect. I was often focused on the sun sign of my scorp. Now I know what makes him a bigger evil is his Saturn in Aries. He has Lilith in Gem and changes his word all the time. He has his SN/Mercury in Libra making him indecisive. Our relationship is toxic cause my Lilith conjuncts his Sun. Then we have lots of difficult aspects regarding asto compatibility.
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"I want a "

This is the point with Scorps. You want something? Why do you want something? He knows better.

Today enjoy your happiness of freedom.
In a few days if the urge comes back, imagine you are a mother and your child is stubborn and wants to dictate things upon you. Would you hate your child? No. You have to find ways to give them the power and be still alive. There you'll see you have learned from them too. "everything that kills me makes me feel alive".

Oh my goodness..... I truly hope this is the end even though i believe it isn't. ... He should just let me go, set me free, like he did with the others. I don't want a toxic relationship no more. You are right he seems like a true scorpio. Tons of test to go through untill I take that victory. I don't wan to come across as weak no more. I want to show him I can live without him ( hoping that he will come running back to me and confess his love?) now that's not going to happen. Oh dear,.......
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I miss his Venus.

But with Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Cap he may want an old-fashioned relationship but with financial and Networking perspective. His Saturn is very well placed but he may still be pleasing his family due to big Feelings of responsibility.

With his Pluto/Scorp you have no choice other than accepting his superiority. Otherwise you'll end with suicide. But see it positive. He is interested in you. So if he is the king you are the queen.

Do Profile your life with steps towards success and health while waiting for his moment of "I love you". Capricorn does not accept sudden success. They think they must work hard for it. So exagerate in showing of how an awkward Aquarius queen you are. Ok actually Taurus is more of godess.

If you are young do accept that your ego may still want to play around with other guys. So it won't help you to find the right way to trick him when you still likes to taste the other Greens.

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"I don't wan to come across as weak no more."

Please be weak. It is your secret weapon. Cap and Scorp (like Virgo) want to be there for the weaks. I hope your Gem likes to be an actor. So let her play the weak (tell him I cannot forget you).

He told me I am a strong woman. I am only weak to him. I don't want him to take advantage of me.. I want him to eat his own words.. If he wants to be with other people that much he can. I won't stop him..... that's the one thing I would never do... his ex used to be jealous and insecure too... to the point where he could no longer have girlfriends . I wonder why she turned out that way..... Surprise surprise he still loved her when things ended... It was his own game after all... give me a few days of freedom. Let my aqua mind explore with enough human kind wither other people. Let my venus in Gemini have some fun... 🙂.... Then in a few days if no response I may return.. only if I really miss my toxic relation... ^ with you I lose myself, without you I find myself wanting to be lost again ^^
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This is a good link for checking the compatibility:
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/comp2f<BR>
It is also worth checking this:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/erosephemerisasteroid.html<BR> and whether his Eros has Conjunction or Trine to your Psyche. If yes, then chances are you'll be stuck to this for longer than you want.

Lilith in one person's chart conj. SN of the other person's charts is also a good sign for binding.

Saturn aspects between two charts are often seen in long lasting relationship.

His Venus conj. her Mars is also good.
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I miss his Venus.

But with Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Cap he may want an old-fashioned relationship but with financial and Networking perspective. His Saturn is very well placed but he may still be pleasing his family due to big Feelings of responsibility.

With his Pluto/Scorp you have no choice other than accepting his superiority. Otherwise you'll end with suicide. But see it positive. He is interested in you. So if he is the king you are the queen.

Do Profile your life with steps towards success and health while waiting for his moment of "I love you". Capricorn does not accept sudden success. They think they must work hard for it. So exagerate in showing of how an awkward Aquarius queen you are. Ok actually Taurus is more of godess.

If you are young do accept that your ego may still want to play around with other guys. So it won't help you to find the right way to trick him when you still likes to taste the other Greens.

thank you so much for your deep analysis. I will check out the sites. We are very compatible when I did our charts.
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Use the versatility of Gem parts in you to be flexible to him. Your Virgo ascendant is your friend when working together with his CapMoon.
His Sag will be bored by Virgo critics. But this Mister has nothing to say. He is put aside by Scorp and Cap.
He is attracted to you and overwhelmed by the idea of the power struggles he could start against his power-exclaimer-fellows Taurus and Aqua.

Now what could be the end Situation?
1. Your two Aqua and two Gems get bored. They change the relationship to an open one while CapScorp make plans for revenge.

2. Your Taurus and Virgo get stuck in KEEPING process. Everything is all right. Aqua and Gem find some originality in Scorp way of life and say yes too.

3. other Scenarios.

I needed to bring this threat bak to life. I am suntauvengem.. Different account... what u have described is extremely accurate..... All the scneraios.. I am switching between one n two n two n one... We have been amazing ..all thr games which yes i was in a roller coaster ride.. Nothing he says ever match his action n yes when he found out how dedicated i am ...hes 200 percent passionate with me n show with his eyes how much in the world i mean to him. Long story short,,,today i curled my hair which i told him the idea yesterday which he said,,,what for.. Now roday, i messaged him bout the hair.. He saw it n never replied.... i am on a holoday n neva ben a day we dun talk at night... im flying bak tomorrow so his game is starting to build the extreme tension so when we see each other its that explosive... when the game is being played i get frustrsted...but when its the make up process... Every bit of those moment last a life time.. I dont know how he does it...am i supposed to pretend i dont know hes playing game...lol...now the pattern is clear after 7 months.. I am used to it by now but yes, i still prefer to have the power..itd very hard with those placements !😢
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Posted by DwellingOnMove
I miss his Venus.

But with Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Cap he may want an old-fashioned relationship but with financial and Networking perspective. His Saturn is very well placed but he may still be pleasing his family due to big Feelings of responsibility.

With his Pluto/Scorp you have no choice other than accepting his superiority. Otherwise you'll end with suicide. But see it positive. He is interested in you. So if he is the king you are the queen.

Do Profile your life with steps towards success and health while waiting for his moment of "I love you". Capricorn does not accept sudden success. They think they must work hard for it. So exagerate in showing of how an awkward Aquarius queen you are. Ok actually Taurus is more of godess.

If you are young do accept that your ego may still want to play around with other guys. So it won't help you to find the right way to trick him when you still likes to taste the other Greens.

thanks again, you are spot on with a lot... From my previous posts our relatioenshop has imcressed dramacticlly. Games are played less.... and ok, i just read the whole thread.. I will b weak n let his scorpio play the part.. Let me be an actor n pretend i never knew he was playing games all along :p
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Hi Faith,

I feel happy that I could help to some extent. Real life goes its own ways and suprises us. Theory is just a little bit preparation. For the spontanity of real life we need to be the right person, do the right things, be vital or just have good luck.

Anyway it makes us happy to know that some of us has good time together. While others are simply lonely.

-- best wishes