Lets get physical

ok so ive been in this "ship" with a scorpio male for over 11 months. Sag sun/Scorp moon and a Scorp sun/Gemini moon. i actually love his gemini moon, it makes his very social and fits in nicely with my sag sun.

on two occasions he has gotten a bit physical with me and im not talking sexually. the first time we were at a party and i came up to him and i was talking to him about US and he has this straight look on his face, grabbed my chin so firmly and looked me dead in my eyes. i felt this intensity from him that i have felt before but not with the physical. this happened in front of people. but no one asked me about it and he didnt bring it up later on.

a month into our courtship i was sitting at the bar and he told me not to leave without him, twice. i was laughing and joking with some friends and i told him that i was getting tired and that i wanted to leave right after the singer sang his first song. he looked me dead in my eye and said "you leave when i say that you can leave, right?" i felt the intensity and we never broke eye contact and i couldnt even talk..all i could do was nod my head in agreement and smile. WOW

the second time he got physical was last night. this was after he told me that he loved me and 3 days later he told me to F off, then is on his best behavior to get me to forgive him, and we start talking again here and there. so last night i came into the bar and he sees me but doesnt come up to me and i dont go up to him..im thinking that hes still is mad at me over something. maybe not saying "i love you" back to him.

hes having a good time and im having a good time. im standing next to the dance floor and he knocks into me on his way to the floor. my pisces friend sees it and it stunned by his behavior. i brush it off and say whatever. then i decide to go up to him and say hello. i say hello and touch his hands. i dont think we are both over what happened with the FU fiasco so i use humor to get him to smile. he smiles but then seems to get quickly annoyed so i leave him alone.

then im on the dance floor dancing by myself and he grabs my arm so HARD that i say OW THAT HURT to him. but he didnt seem to care because he did it again even harder. WTF i was like ok ok, we can dance. so i take his hand and i start dancing with him but again like before he gets lacks and acts like he doesnt want to dance anymore..this is within seconds. he grabbed my arm SO tightly and again in front of people.

Posted by ellessque
you need to cut this off right now. if he can get physical in FRONT of people like that with no remorse or self-control I can only imagine what he can do behind closed doors (and not in a consenting sexual way)

be done with it.

trust me. i was in a 10 year physically abusive relationship. IT IS NOT WORTH IT no matter how many times you try to justify it in your mind.

WALK AWAY gracefully now or ESCAPE like an animal later.

Well, some women like to be a man's property, it makes them feel important and worthy. It's not like she can change just like that. She'd probably find a respectful man to be quite boring. She likes the "intensity".

Posted by ellessque
Bullshit Mr. Crabby.

She obviously "feels" this is inappropriate and that is why she is sharing.

To be honest, I don't mind the feeling of being a man's "property" and being claimed....but any type of abuse whether it be physical/mental/sexual is crossing the line.

The moment she allowed him to grab her arm like that and submit to his demands she showed her vulnerability. He will feed off it from there. It will become more and more intense. Before you know it she'll be explaining a black eye by telling the story of being clumsy to her mother.....if he lets her talk to her mother.

OP,
As a scorpio, I understand your desire to have a man dominate a little. I'll be the first to admit I like it rough in the bedroom...a little hair pulling, light choking...etc. HOWEVER, you need to find someone who knows how to balance that intensity. Public humiliation is a huge red flag determining a man who is physically abusive.

I swear to everything that is holy, with everything I have been through in my life up to this point....if a man would have been rough like that to me in public I would have laid his ass right out on the ground then and there. I wouldn't have thought twice and he wouldn't have seen it coming.

Call bullshit all you want, but I think she likes it. She won't feel the same in a few years when she has to wear heavy make-up, but for now, it turns her on that he's so "intense". I don't see the part where she thinks this is wrong. She is sharing, but to anyone sensible enough, there would be nothing to ask or wonder about.

Be a good scorp and try to help, of course, but it looks like another live and learn situation to me.

I really liked that Rihanna/Eminem song, but when I saw the lame video for it, I started liking it a lot less. True, it's more the shitty acting and actors than the acts themselves, but still...

Posted by ellessque
if he can get physical in FRONT of people like that with no remorse or self-control I can only imagine what he can do behind closed doors

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DMV, there is good intense and bad intense. This is the BAD kind.

Dear DMV:

Eventually, you will be with a guy who beats the shit outta you.

You've had a taste of it now, and there ain't no turnin' back
once you've tasted YOUR PRIMAL FEMALE INSTINCTIVE NEED for
a man who will physically put you in your place.

In fact - nice guys will bore you now ... even "scare" you
( because you'll wonder when THEY will snap, too )
and you'll TEST them now until they either
leave you
or
beat you

So - might as well let the Scorp who caused
"the primal regression and departure of civility"
to have the first whacks at you.

By the way ... "this" scorpio male is NOT a dominant male

AMONG OTHER MALES.

He WANTS to be - but he does not have what it takes
and since he knows it - he RESENTS this - and is
ANGRY about it....

... and he's just bullying someone he CAN dominate.

He's basically just a chronic beta male
who is f**ked in the head
and needs someone on whom to take out his
pent-up aggression.

You'd THINK that when you do right, he'd be nice.
NOPE;

When you do right - he'll accuse you of screwing around
you'll say you didn't
he'll break your jaw.

Why?

Because YOURS is the ONLY JAW HE CAN BREAK.

His behavior is nothing more than an INTERVIEW
for the job opening he has. He is trying to hire
someone he can beat the shit out of
and get away with it.

( LOL - You think I'm exaggerating, don't ya? I'm not! )

You might want to file a restraining order ...today.

"By the way ... "this" scorpio male is NOT a dominant male
AMONG OTHER MALES.
He WANTS to be - but he does not have what it takes
and since he knows it - he RESENTS this - and is
ANGRY about it....
... and he's just bullying someone he CAN dominate."

This is so true..a real man does not get physical with women, the elderly, animals or children. A real dominant man never has to prove it. He just is...

yep its only been in public and i dont even know why he does it. i like him but i dont love him. i think this "ship" has run its course anyways.i just wanted to know if anyone else had experiences like this with a scorpio male. a friend of mine (virgo) dated a scorpio and he was kinda violent towards her. physically and verbally. i used to tell her that my scorp would never turn into that, but it seems as if i was wrong.