Messing with scorpios emotions

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Posted by Stihl46
I'm not an emotional cancer.



Indeed, that's why you've been on here for about a month crying over a Scorp WHO IS IN A FUCKIN' RELATIONSHIP (for like the 10000th time). Just as I (and just everybody else)'ve said before: leave her the fuck alone.
Oh and another thing: if you were the man you proclaim to be 1. she would be yours 2. you wouldn't be on here crying to us about your fuckin' problems. What you are is insecure. And seriously I don't know what answers you're still hoping to get.

I'll give you one last piece of advice and I hope you take it to heart: find some professional help. They're trained to deal with and solve your insecurities.
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Preach! I thought this all sounded familiar...
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Posted by Stihl46
She's real and no pictures, I have to watch she goes through my phone. I can't even talk to other women in front of her she's a true Scorpio she gets jealous. Seen it lots of times this year.

I'm not insecure just a little worried what she would do next if she gets angry at me. She attacked my career the first go around she may try it again. Not too many jobs around that pay 48K a year which is low but its a job. You hurt a Scorpios feelings you will pay for it she said to me I hurt her feelings she wanted revenge.

For a girl that is in a relationship she sure doesn't want to let me go. I try leave she finds me I try to ignore her she contacts me.

Her boyfriend has no clue how she acts around me he is a mushroom in the dark. What happens between her and I is none of his business.

It's been in the last month she's been getting more friendly with me. She is coming to me not the other way around.

I look at her BF and think buddy you are going on a wild ride he will be the one hurt. Seen him today he's got that look like he is lost he doesn't know what to do. He wants to say help me but he can't. He doesn't let on to anybody else he is having troubles with me he does. I look at him and think I know you are having troubles.

One of my female friends told me stay out of it or it will turn ugly she is right. How can I stay out of it when I have a girl reaching out and grabbing me when I stray too far. I tried walking away once I have her chasing me.

Why are Scorpio woman so damn possessive? Makes me wonder what she would be like if we do get in a relationship.




Is she really scorp woman?
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Are you really that oblivious? These questions seem so obvious to me, I'm surprised your a water sign... Seriously.



+1 Infinite... have you seen his other posts? He is like a ROBOT. Seriously.
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Lmao I was thinking the same thing ROBOT! Im reading his mini series and I dont feel any emotion in anything he says. He doesnt sound no where near a Cancer or any water sign. Sounds like a lot of hot Air. 😛 Im not buying this as reality or at least his reality.
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Posted by Stihl46

Why is it so easy for me to affect her why can't I be like the other guys she is friends with

No I'm not asking if she likes me, why I'm I able to affect her so much?



Posted by Stihl46

I can't even talk to other women in front of her she's a true Scorpio she gets jealous. Seen it lots of times this year.

For a girl that is in a relationship she sure doesn't want to let me go. I try leave she finds me I try to ignore her she contacts me.

Her boyfriend has no clue how she acts around me he is a mushroom in the dark. What happens between her and I is none of his business.

I tried walking away once I have her chasing me.


Posted by Stihl46

She's realized I haven't changed except for I'm healthy and in shape she likes what she sees.
She's seen that I'm well respected and I interact with them well.



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I have done the Cancer man trait pushing her away to see if she comes back she keeps coming back. Pretty sure she is doing the same thing to me.
She sees I'm a rebel I do things that I'm not supposed to do I've gotten my wrist slapped many times at work but it is the way I'm, I take charge I stand up for myself that's how you get respect my bosses respect me.
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Whatu was absolutely correct about you. Not only do you have narcissistic tendencies, you are completely delusional. Unfortunately there's not a cure, but there is help out there to control it. With that said, this Scorpio may be attracted to you, but she remains with her boyfriend because her gut is screaming to stay away from you and sooner or later will figure out why. By the way, this has nothing to do with your "earth sign" placements..not at all.

https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/stihl46-is-a-narcissist-5138661/
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From Psychology Today on Narcissism:


1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration [regularly fishes for compliments, and is highly susceptible to flattery].
5. Has a sense of entitlement.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling [or, I would add, unable] to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty [rude and abusive] behaviors or attitudes.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201311/6-signs-narcissism-you-may-not-know-about<BR>
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From an admitted Narcissist:

"Haughty" body language — The narcissist adopts a physical posture which implies and exudes an air of superiority, seniority, hidden powers, mysteriousness, amused indifference, etc. Though the narcissist usually maintains sustained and piercing eye contact, he often refrains from physical proximity (he is "territorial").
The narcissist takes part in social interactions — even mere banter — condescendingly, from a position of supremacy and faux "magnanimity and largesse". But he rarely mingles socially and prefers to remain the "observer", or the "lone wolf".

Entitlement markers — The narcissist immediately asks for "special treatment" of some kind. Not to wait his turn, to have a longer or a shorter therapeutic session, to talk directly to authority figures (and not to their assistants or secretaries), to be granted special payment terms, to enjoy custom tailored arrangements - or to get served first.

The narcissist is the one who — vocally and demonstratively — demands the undivided attention of the head waiter in a restaurant, or monopolizes the hostess, or latches on to celebrities in a party. The narcissist reacts with rage and indignantly when denied his wishes and if treated equally with others whom he deems inferior.

Idealization or devaluation — The narcissist instantly idealizes or devalues his interlocutor. This depends on how the narcissist appraises the potential his converser has as a Narcissistic Supply Source. The narcissist flatters, adores, admires and applauds the "target" in an embarrassingly exaggerated and profuse manner — or sulks, abuses, and humiliates her.

ragging and false autobiography — The narcissist brags incessantly. His speech is peppered with "I", "my", "myself", and "mine". He describes himself as intelligent, or rich, or modest, or intuitive, or creative — but always excessively, implausibly, and extraordinarily so.

The narcissist's biography sounds unusually rich and complex. His achievements — incommensurate with his age, education, or renown. Yet, his actual condition is evidently and demonstrably incompatible with his claims. Very often, the narcissist lies or his fantasies are easily discernible. He always name-drops and appropriates other people's experiences and accomplishments.

Emotion-free language — The narcissist likes to talk about himself and only about himself. He is not interested in others or what they have to say, unless they cons
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they constitute potential Sources of Supply and in order to obtain said supply. He acts bored, disdainful, even angry, if he feels that they are intruding on his precious time and, thus, abusing him.

In general, the narcissist is very impatient, easily bored, with strong attention deficits — unless and until he is the topic of discussion. One can publicly dissect all aspects of the intimate life of a narcissist without repercussions, providing the discourse is not "emotionally tinted".

If asked to relate directly to his emotions, the narcissist intellectualizes, rationalizes, speaks about himself in the third person and in a detached "scientific" tone or composes a narrative with a fictitious character in it, suspiciously autobiographical. Narcissists like to refer to themselves in mechanical terms, as efficient automata or machines.

I share this for one reason only. I was once in the Scorpio's who you desire as another source of "narcissistic supply" position. Gosh I was so attracted...but there was something that made my gut churn like a bad bout of diarrhea was about to take place when he did something or said something that just was not right. It didn't take long at all...the hesitation was because I did not want to believe he was a narcissist. I've researched and read exstensively on them..figured it out and cut him out of my life completely. Gut returned back to normal.
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Posted by Stihl46


1) His moral and values are opposite of hers he she hers match my moral and values closer.





Your moral values are that what happens between you and her (a woman in a relationship) is none of her boyfriend's business. So, if you two date she can start talking to another guy in a relationship and flirt and it's none of your business. Right? Got it.
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Posted by Stihl46


1) His moral and values are opposite of hers he she hers match my moral and values closer.





Your moral values are that what happens between you and her (a woman in a relationship) is none of her boyfriend's business. So, if you two date she can start talking to another guy in a relationship and flirt and it's none of your business. Right? Got it.



She is a big flirt guys like flirting with her, I'm a flirt as well we are not even in a relationship with her and she gets jealous that I talk to women in front of her. Her BF doesn't have women flirt with him too often now that he is acting insecure with his head down nobody can see his face. When he first met her he looked good he was healthy looking today he's let himself go. Her on the other hand is hotter than ever she's been getting back in shape she is healthy and very attractive 🙂
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That didn't have anything to do with what I said.
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What I want to know is if the roles were reversed would you be okay with what's happening? Regardless of how "horrible" you make him seem. Is that any excuse for your behavior? So far you write things about this guy to make him look pathetic. What I read is that you have no self confidence. You seem like an incredibly confused and pathetic human being that has to put down others to try and raise themselves up. It's very sad. I pity you.
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Posted by Shruikan
What I want to know is if the roles were reversed would you be okay with what's happening? Regardless of how "horrible" you make him seem. Is that any excuse for your behavior? So far you write things about this guy to make him look pathetic. What I read is that you have no self confidence. You seem like an incredibly confused and pathetic human being that has to put down others to try and raise themselves up. It's very sad. I pity you.



I think he def has self esteem and body issues. If I read correctly, he (recently?) Lost weight and maybe muscled up. He also said he was "big", implying that he's scary and imposing, but does big mean Jonah Hill or Hulk Hogan? Classic case of the outward appearance changing, but the mind still being it's same old self.
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"like, omg, she was totally, like, looking at me lips, and she was like, totally rubbing her bewbz against my very masculine chest, and, like, outwardly I was keeping it totally cool, dude, but INSIDE I was like, yeah baby. But, whatever, like, you know, she's totally with some loser, like he's totally gay, and like, you know, a faggot and stuff, but I totally feel sorry for the dude, you know? Like totally, he's a douche, and like, she's using him and stuff, and like, totally taking his money, and I'm like, what a loser, dude! But she totally wants me, like, she can't stop being totally against my bodacious body, dude."
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What I want to know is if the roles were reversed would you be okay with what's happening? Regardless of how "horrible" you make him seem. Is that any excuse for your behavior? So far you write things about this guy to make him look pathetic. What I read is that you have no self confidence. You seem like an incredibly confused and pathetic human being that has to put down others to try and raise themselves up. It's very sad. I pity you.




She is a powerful young woman she knows what she wants. It's what turns me on about her she challenges me.


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I disagree. If she was so strong and knows what she wants (and you know she wants you) why is she with him? Unless she wants... wait for it... him.
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"like, omg, she was totally, like, looking at me lips, and she was like, totally rubbing her bewbz against my very masculine chest, and, like, outwardly I was keeping it totally cool, dude, but INSIDE I was like, yeah baby. But, whatever, like, you know, she's totally with some loser, like he's totally gay, and like, you know, a faggot and stuff, but I totally feel sorry for the dude, you know? Like totally, he's a douche, and like, she's using him and stuff, and like, totally taking his money, and I'm like, what a loser, dude! But she totally wants me, like, she can't stop being totally against my bodacious body, dude."



Lol!!! Awesome.
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"like, omg, she was totally, like, looking at me lips, and she was like, totally rubbing her bewbz against my very masculine chest, and, like, outwardly I was keeping it totally cool, dude, but INSIDE I was like, yeah baby. But, whatever, like, you know, she's totally with some loser, like he's totally gay, and like, you know, a faggot and stuff, but I totally feel sorry for the dude, you know? Like totally, he's a douche, and like, she's using him and stuff, and like, totally taking his money, and I'm like, what a loser, dude! But she totally wants me, like, she can't stop being totally against my bodacious body, dude."

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"like, omg, she was totally, like, looking at me lips, and she was like, totally rubbing her bewbz against my very masculine chest, and, like, outwardly I was keeping it totally cool, dude, but INSIDE I was like, yeah baby. But, whatever, like, you know, she's totally with some loser, like he's totally gay, and like, you know, a faggot and stuff, but I totally feel sorry for the dude, you know? Like totally, he's a douche, and like, she's using him and stuff, and like, totally taking his money, and I'm like, what a loser, dude! But she totally wants me, like, she can't stop being totally against my bodacious body, dude."

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Sad but True 😄
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Posted by Stihl46
I'm leaving her be she knows where to find me,her BF will show his true side here pretty soon I know what kind of past this guy has he can't control his anger. There is a reason why the girls told me to stay away from him he brags about women have to call the cops on him, he is one sick tree trunker. He is a gun collector that makes me a little worried if he goes off his nut there is no way I can defend myself I don't own weapons. His behavior he's showing now is the same behavior he was showing when he told me he was punching holes in the walls of his house. He thought it was normal for somebody to punch holes in the walls when you get angry.

I have lost sleep over this guy dating my Scorp friend he's been hiding his past I know what he is like.




This is starting to get scary lol...
The Gemini I'm seeing works with Weapons too.
Lol.
Hahahaa.

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Like, I'm not too worried, dude, like, you know? Like, the way the loser is acting, like, he's totally insecure 'cause I'm so totally intimidating, like, my big hands are like meat hammers, and like, she totally likes to play with my hands and like, you know, imagine them on her body. Totally awesome, dude. Yeah. But, like, this loser dude is totally insecure, and his insecurity is showing up like a neon flashing sign, he's such a douche, brah, like totally, and he can't hide it anymore, like, he's totally not going to be able to control his temper either, and I'm like, yeah dude, I'm watching. He's been totally hiding a lot, like, when he met her he turned into a different man, he totally started acting like a confident man, like he thought his dick was so big, but I'm like, naw dude, my dick is totally bigger, like a big stogie, brah, but it was like he locked his insecurity and his old self in a safe, and like, I totally laughed cause my dick is bigger and I totally know she's into it. Well, that safe has totally busted wide open, dude, and he is totally being the weak man he was before he met her, and dude, I'm like totally doing the touchdown dance in my head, you know? Like totally. She's totally going to get totally tired of him, like, she totally already is, but I'm cool, I'm totally leaving her be, dude, because I'm like, she wants my body, dude. Totally. But when she gets totally gets, like, overwhelmed she totally gets angry, like a bunch of angry bees, and like, you know, a bear getting the munchies, brah. I totally, like, know better than to bother her, cause when she's in that state, she's like, totally a bitch. Yeah baby, I like bitches. I bet she'd totally make me her bitch, dude, but like, I'm totally a man, like, you know, and she wants my body. When she wants to talk she will totally find me, like, she's a dingo or something, brah, like, a dingo in heat, and she always does find me, cause she can't stop wanting me, like dude, I'm so hot, you know.

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Like, I'm not too worried, dude, like, you know? Like, the way the loser is acting, like, he's totally insecure 'cause I'm so totally intimidating, like, my big hands are like meat hammers, and like, she totally likes to play with my hands and like, you know, imagine them on her body. Totally awesome, dude. Yeah. But, like, this loser dude is totally insecure, and his insecurity is showing up like a neon flashing sign, he's such a douche, brah, like totally, and he can't hide it anymore, like, he's totally not going to be able to control his temper either, and I'm like, yeah dude, I'm watching. He's been totally hiding a lot, like, when he met her he turned into a different man, he totally started acting like a confident man, like he thought his dick was so big, but I'm like, naw dude, my dick is totally bigger, like a big stogie, brah, but it was like he locked his insecurity and his old self in a safe, and like, I totally laughed cause my dick is bigger and I totally know she's into it. Well, that safe has totally busted wide open, dude, and he is totally being the weak man he was before he met her, and dude, I'm like totally doing the touchdown dance in my head, you know? Like totally. She's totally going to get totally tired of him, like, she totally already is, but I'm cool, I'm totally leaving her be, dude, because I'm like, she wants my body, dude. Totally. But when she gets totally gets, like, overwhelmed she totally gets angry, like a bunch of angry bees, and like, you know, a bear getting the munchies, brah. I totally, like, know better than to bother her, cause when she's in that state, she's like, totally a bitch. Yeah baby, I like bitches. I bet she'd totally make me her bitch, dude, but like, I'm totally a man, like, you know, and she wants my body. When she wants to talk she will totally find me, like, she's a dingo or something, brah, like, a dingo in heat, and she always does find me, cause she can't stop wanting me, like dude, I'm so hot, you know.

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For a second I couldn't tell if it was him speaking. Like, totally bruh.
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Posted by Rambunctious76
You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.

You might have a point. Only I have little connection with psychology so I cannot diagnose anything. But in astro language his placements give reason for:
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I wish he would pay more attention to the astro fact that Scorpio sun is more resolute than a Virgo Moon (mutable sign) and has power over it. Scorpio suns don't tend to have several irons in the fire.

For the sake of sanity it is better if he stops.

But I guess as long as we care (he needs us), he will come and process the misery. Sharing the burden. I can't blame him. I do my own astro-talk-therapy here too. Is my impression wrong that an Internet forum is the last station? Like I know no relationship which were discussed here and is up now.
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This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.
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It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.
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Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.



It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.



you need to get yours out more.
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I mostly did on the boob thread. I'm currently enjoying not wearing a bra and just a cami.
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Posted by Whatu
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Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.



It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.



you need to get yours out more.



I mostly did on the boob thread. I'm currently enjoying not wearing a bra and just a cami.



I'm currently enjoying thinking about you not wearing a bra and just a cami.
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~cheeky smirk~
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Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Look I'm Learning how to flirt aswell!
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Not bad! You actually got me to blush. 😉
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Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.



It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.



you need to get yours out more.



I mostly did on the boob thread. I'm currently enjoying not wearing a bra and just a cami.



I'm currently enjoying thinking about you not wearing a bra and just a cami.



~cheeky smirk~



*activates Taurus Moon and waits*
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~pokes pointy stick at Taurus Moon~ 😛
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Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.



It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.



you need to get yours out more.



I mostly did on the boob thread. I'm currently enjoying not wearing a bra and just a cami.



I'm currently enjoying thinking about you not wearing a bra and just a cami.



~cheeky smirk~



*activates Taurus Moon and waits*



~pokes pointy stick at Taurus Moon~ 😛
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~scoots closer~
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Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Whatu
Posted by MoonArtist
Posted by Rambunctious76
Posted by DwellingOnMove
This thread has some positive effects:
Whatu learned what it means to have a Taurus moon.
And I have a girl crush on MoonArtist.



You forgot one more - learning what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like.



Freaky, isn't it?



I learn't what boobs look like.



It took this thread to learn that? Oy, honey, we need to get you out more.



you need to get yours out more.



I mostly did on the boob thread. I'm currently enjoying not wearing a bra and just a cami.



I'm currently enjoying thinking about you not wearing a bra and just a cami.



~cheeky smirk~



*activates Taurus Moon and waits*



~pokes pointy stick at Taurus Moon~ 😛



*Grabs stick, Pulls MoonArtist into a surprise hug/sneaky grope*


*Meanders off to bed with a flicking tail and smug look on face*


Nighty Night
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~contemplates following suit since it's 3:30 am~

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