Second Decan Scorpions..

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Do you find yourself *sometimes* misunderstood in your interpersonal approaches, specifically in your reactions? Of course the rest of every individual's chart may alter the intensity or translation of any variable typically caused by specific placements (but that typically.. 😉 goes unsaid).

If so or if not.. elaborate.

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(Hello to the Scorpio board 😉 Long time, no stalk. Hope you all are behaving 😛 Pfft).
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Do you find yourself *sometimes* misunderstood in your interpersonal approaches, specifically in your reactions? Of course the rest of every individual's chart may alter the intensity or translation of any variable typically caused by specific placements (but that typically.. 😉 goes unsaid).

If so or if not.. elaborate.

If you don't want to or whatnot.. feel free to post pictures of kittens with captions~



(Hello to the Scorpio board 😉 Long time, no stalk. Hope you all are behaving 😛 Pfft).



I need to read up on all of this placement stuff. I really don't get it. Yeah, sometimes I feel misunderstood by my reaction, but I own that because most of the time I simply haven't communicated my feelings very well prior to what some might consider "my moody response". Also, I often feel that people should just "get it". Like if you lie to me, expect I'm gonna be very pissed off and question your trustworthiness. Where others just think, "it was only a white lie. That doesn't make them untrustworthy". There are no "white lies" for me, a lie is a lie. I've done it and own it, but if I hold someone to that standard it is because I haven't lied to them, ever and expect the same. If it is someone I have lied to I could care less (but I still feel bothered--I know hypocritical) I guess that would speak to the "intensity" you speak of.
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Okay.. went through my history and found this from May:

"If you were born between November 3 and November 13

The second of the Scorpio Decans has the planet Neptune as its ruler.

The second Decan Scorpio personality is characterised by seductiveness, shyness and artistic talent.

You can be quite shy and don't like to expose too much of yourself even to close friends and family. You prefer to work quietly in the background and shy away from the limelight. You also don't mind being alone and pretty much enjoy your own company where you can fantasise and dream your imaginative dreams.

You are a generous and attentive lover and use your powers of seduction to get what you want. You are very intriguing, mysterious and seductive to others. They can easily become beguiled by you.

You have a great deal of artistic talent and can become a successful artist, writer or musician. However your shyness might hold you back in seeking celebrity fame and fortune.

You can experience great highs and lows and will be adversely affected by mood swings. The mood swings can be very intense and often frightening to those around you. They think they have figured you out but are shocked or surprised by another side of you that they don't know."
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And towards Phoenix..

I can see where your response is coming from.

However, I don't exactly mean a situation such as lying (lying is alien to me; I don't understand it nor allow my surroundings to hold it). I'm meaning sort of everyday situations that are ..well - meaningless and trivial. Like asking somebody to pass the ice and getting a completely out of the blue reaction that is dragged out over nothing. That's hypothetical by the way. 😛
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Posted by Huntress
Okay.. went through my history and found this from May:

"If you were born between November 3 and November 13

The second of the Scorpio Decans has the planet Neptune as its ruler.

The second Decan Scorpio personality is characterised by seductiveness, shyness and artistic talent.

You can be quite shy and don't like to expose too much of yourself even to close friends and family. You prefer to work quietly in the background and shy away from the limelight. You also don't mind being alone and pretty much enjoy your own company where you can fantasise and dream your imaginative dreams.

You are a generous and attentive lover and use your powers of seduction to get what you want. You are very intriguing, mysterious and seductive to others. They can easily become beguiled by you.

You have a great deal of artistic talent and can become a successful artist, writer or musician. However your shyness might hold you back in seeking celebrity fame and fortune.

You can experience great highs and lows and will be adversely affected by mood swings. The mood swings can be very intense and often frightening to those around you. They think they have figured you out but are shocked or surprised by another side of you that they don't know."



Thanks for this. I got distracted in my research
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Posted by Huntress
Okay.. went through my history and found this from May:

"If you were born between November 3 and November 13

The second of the Scorpio Decans has the planet Neptune as its ruler.

The second Decan Scorpio personality is characterised by seductiveness, shyness and artistic talent.

You can be quite shy and don't like to expose too much of yourself even to close friends and family. You prefer to work quietly in the background and shy away from the limelight. You also don't mind being alone and pretty much enjoy your own company where you can fantasise and dream your imaginative dreams.

You are a generous and attentive lover and use your powers of seduction to get what you want. You are very intriguing, mysterious and seductive to others. They can easily become beguiled by you.

You have a great deal of artistic talent and can become a successful artist, writer or musician. However your shyness might hold you back in seeking celebrity fame and fortune.

You can experience great highs and lows and will be adversely affected by mood swings. The mood swings can be very intense and often frightening to those around you. They think they have figured you out but are shocked or surprised by another side of you that they don't know."



Yup, yup, yup and yup. Especially the last paragraph.
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Posted by Huntress
And towards Phoenix..

I can see where your response is coming from.

However, I don't exactly mean a situation such as lying (lying is alien to me; I don't understand it nor allow my surroundings to hold it). I'm meaning sort of everyday situations that are ..well - meaningless and trivial. Like asking somebody to pass the ice and getting a completely out of the blue reaction that is dragged out over nothing. That's hypothetical by the way. 😛



Hmm, okay. Well yes. They seem to be trivial to others, but not to me, which is why people don't get it. I kind of have explosive rants and if I'm in one of my moods I rant, grunt, then isolate myself until they come to their senses . Hate to admit it, but I can be a bit of a brat when I'm in a mood.
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I should add I reflect a lot. At meetings, with friends, I will just sit and take everyone in and listen (or on DXP read ). People have said I seem like I don't want to be there or I look like I'm not interested, but I'm just thinking. Yes, sometimes I am thinking WTF am I doing here? or Why are you all wasting my time with the BS (I hate when people waste time)? But more times than not I am simply listen and waiting to see if my input is even needed. I hate when people talk just for the sake of hearing their own voice, not my style . I also hate what I deem "unnecessary" chatter (saying the same sh*t a million times differently). So if it was said, or the point was made well enough, I stay quiet. No one seems to get it. Not even my friends, and we have been friends for about 15 years now.
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This is going to sound random but does the influence of placements in your sign have anything to do with compatibility?

I'm bringing this up because I have some strong influences from Neptune and Jupiter chartwise and so does he (my fiance, a Scorpio - just noting because not sure if you remember why I'm pretty frequent here, lol).


By the way, the quote/information you've posted sounds ridiculously applicable, both in context and the tone of the reference it makes grammatically. Mind if I ask about the source? I'd love to explore it! 😉


Lastly, the other night I noticed his chart held a conjunction between his Moon and Mars (both Scorpio). I think this most definitely adds in as a factor to his quickness in emotion.. here's a description I've found:

"Moon conjunct Mars
The emotional life is animated and excited with this aspect. People with Moon conjunct Mars in their natal charts can actually feel warm. They're hot-blooded, passionate, and sexual people. Most have considerable energy and intitiative at their disposal. They are brave and spontaneous. There is an inherent pressure to perform and to prove oneself on a personal level, which sometimes spills into the professional arena, but taken alone, it points to a defensive nature that doesn't easily relax.

There is a bluntness and straightforwardness to these people that is unmistakable. Although they are completely ready to defend and protect their loved ones, they are not especially sympathetic on a more personal level. They'll most definitely defend the "weak", but they are too emotionally excitable, self-absorbed, and brusque to be considered gentle and sympathetic folk! They're brave and they value personal freedom. Routine bores them, and they are inclined to seek out excitement in some form. Spontaneous to a fault, these people react quickly to stimuli. They are usually physically resilient. Their temper is quick, but it can disappear just as rapidly. Theirs is a raw passion.

Some Famous People with Moon conjunct Mars: Bruce Lee, Howard Cosell, e.e. Cummings, Natalie Cole, David Carradine, Liza Minnelli, Ricky Martin, Billy Graham, Dorothy Hamill."

(INSERT LONG SQUEAL HERE - e.e. Cummings is in my top 5 poets!)

Thank you 🙂
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I relate a great deal to the information provided for second decan and even the scorpio neptune. I'm misunderstood a lot but with time I came to understand why and don't hold it against people anymore. I don't move according to what makes sense on the surface and what's perceivable to the eyes of most. I'm at peace with life in its entirety, so I'm not one who sees the light as good and dark as bad, I'm good with all of it. It's all beautiful as far as I'm concerned. In my experience, pisces sun and water moons could be the most understanding of my nature, they just seem to get me better and quicker. Thanks sharing this info.

Question, what's the explanation behind neptune being the ruler of the second decan scorpio?
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Intrigued, correct me if my memory is wrong.. but you love Huxley literature as well, right?

This is my favorite e.e. Cummings:

i like my body when it is with your
body. It is so quite a new thing.
Muscles better and nerves more.
i like your body. i like what it does,
i like its hows. i like to feel the spine
of your body and its bones, and the trembling
-firm-smooth ness and which i will
again and again and again
kiss, i like kissing this and that of you,
i like, slowly stroking the, shocking fuzz
of your electric fur, and what-is-it comes
over parting flesh . . . . And eyes big love-crumbs,

and possibly i like the thrill

of under me you quite so new


Actually I 'understood' the poem after being with Scorp. 🙂 And not just in a shallow explicit way, but rather the appreciation for the miraculous creation of everything about his being.. and the intense change it causes mine to undergo.

And Elle, you should know it means a damn thing to me, missy! 😛