degenerate_ingenue
@degenerate_ingenue
10 Years1,000+ Posts
Comments: 3 · Posts: 2104 · Topics: 89
to my fellow scorpys
I've had plenty of betrayals in my life, in friendship and in love.
1) in friendship: I tend to just eject myself from the persons life. I forgive them. I move forward. I never do anything vengeful to "get back" at them. I also never explode or use venomous words against them. I simply walk away and disappear.
2) relationships: it can get a little messy, but I'm never vengeful. in fact, I'm more self-detrimental in this area than focused on "getting back" at someone. I want relationships to work, so I try to overlook any minor situations but they do start adding up. then when I reach the point of no return, I just disappear from their lives as well, though I become very melancholic. I never hit them with venomous words either. I think being that way is very...weak. throwing hateful words. throwing hateful actions to get revenge. it's all very childish. I just walk away. I avoid a lot of confrontation. but I find it to be the most peaceful way to deal with cutting the tie.
my current relationship (though it's not a full out relationship yet)...my guy forces me to be open with him when he upsets me. though sometimes his Cancer moon annoys the living shit out of me, he honestly has this unnerving ability to just "know" when I'm upset. me...being me...I'm always like "I'm fine". *insert invisible fumes coming out of head here*. in all my past relationships I avoided conflict as I mention above. in this one, he has me confront the issue. it's so scary for me. because I don't like to upset others by being upset myself and then telling another WHY I'm upset. usually in the past I'd just rationalize in my head reasons why an SO did what they did and move forward but still keep track in my head. however I'd just move on and brush it off. now...the communication is great. because I love communicating in general. if anything, I think I'm just continuing to evolve. though I'm glad I was never vengeful in my past or even the present...I feel like now I am learning to not be so avoidant. I appreciate my guy. he forces me to evolve into a better version of me. I couldn't ask for more. COMMUNICATION IS KEY! as they always say. 😛
1) in friendship: I tend to just eject myself from the persons life. I forgive them. I move forward. I never do anything vengeful to "get back" at them. I also never explode or use venomous words against them. I simply walk away and disappear.
2) relationships: it can get a little messy, but I'm never vengeful. in fact, I'm more self-detrimental in this area than focused on "getting back" at someone. I want relationships to work, so I try to overlook any minor situations but they do start adding up. then when I reach the point of no return, I just disappear from their lives as well, though I become very melancholic. I never hit them with venomous words either. I think being that way is very...weak. throwing hateful words. throwing hateful actions to get revenge. it's all very childish. I just walk away. I avoid a lot of confrontation. but I find it to be the most peaceful way to deal with cutting the tie.
my current relationship (though it's not a full out relationship yet)...my guy forces me to be open with him when he upsets me. though sometimes his Cancer moon annoys the living shit out of me, he honestly has this unnerving ability to just "know" when I'm upset. me...being me...I'm always like "I'm fine". *insert invisible fumes coming out of head here*. in all my past relationships I avoided conflict as I mention above. in this one, he has me confront the issue. it's so scary for me. because I don't like to upset others by being upset myself and then telling another WHY I'm upset. usually in the past I'd just rationalize in my head reasons why an SO did what they did and move forward but still keep track in my head. however I'd just move on and brush it off. now...the communication is great. because I love communicating in general. if anything, I think I'm just continuing to evolve. though I'm glad I was never vengeful in my past or even the present...I feel like now I am learning to not be so avoidant. I appreciate my guy. he forces me to evolve into a better version of me. I couldn't ask for more. COMMUNICATION IS KEY! as they always say. 😛
haha we all sound so "vicious" in the responses received so far. look at us "vengeful" ones
😆
😆
Posted by Ellycakeshehe I can't remember now from your description/headline...whatever the heck it is...if you have a Sag moon...or Sag ascendant. however I have friends with both. I'm going to assume "emotionally impulsive" would be a Sag moon. I love my Sag moon friends. no filter on them. if something I does annoys them, they're first to say it!
1) Confront them bluntly with my feelings and thoughts, in an attempt to reconcile. If they don't want to, Cut them off. Tell them I'm cutting them off and why. Never talk to them again. Did that to a former cap best friend.
2) Based on history, not communicate the betrayals magnitude immediately, hold it in, bring it up several times at later dates, stay with them for a year and try and make it work then break up with them lol.
I think or joke about getting revenge. But really I'm a much more inward person. I'm not too impulsive that way. Even when I'm emotionally impulsive, I just word vomit, feel bad then shrink away hoping the whole mess will be forgotten and try to ignore it hoping that meant it never happened haha.
that's a good way to be: confrontational. I tend to be the opposite. I'm like the little avoidant one. no one knows what they did wrong. or if I'm just being cold and avoiding them for no reason. I just try to avoid the conflict.
but I agree on (2) for sure. that's typically how I am. I save that knowledge for later. also probably not the most beneficial way to deal with things, but I try to make my relationships very easy-going. I let a lot slide until that breakpoint where I'm like "yeah well what about that one time when you did this and this"
they're response: "what?? when was that?"
😆
Posted by ElleDuMondeI definitely agree.
1) Terminate them from my life
2) Terminate them from my life
I will immediately work towards detaching myself to the point they do not exist to me anymore.
I automatically eject. in relationships sometimes it takes a little longer to eject, but I eventually reach that point.
Posted by Ryokoyes! even vengeful thoughts are never acted upon. I think anyone can be guilty of vengeful thoughts. myself included, but like you said they're never acted upon.
1) I'd probably cry over this person if i was truly upset. I'd cut this person out of my life. I might think up ways of being vengeful but i know i'm more mature than that so I'd never go through with it.
2) depends on what the SO did. If it's cheating, I'd cry for months and cut this person out of my life. If it's not cheating, I'd give another chance and if we're both willing to work on the relationship then it's all good but this person may never regain my trust again.
yes on the SO thing too. I become very melancholic. don't eat. sometimes don't shower (unless I'm going out in public). just sleep. I'd say I'm more self-destructive in those instances than destructive to who hurt me. I give too many chances to those who hurt me too. and they're never trusted again just like you mentioned. my eyes are always open, and I'm very suspicious. once my trust is broken that is. I usually give them the benefit of the doubt prior to them breaking my trust. despite past hurts, I like to go into every relationship with a clean, trustful slate.
Posted by cheekyfaerieyes! blocking is a good way to handle it in my POV too. I did that to one toxic friend I had. she was very controlling & very poisonous. she'd attack with words and was very venomous. she was an Aries with a Taurus moon and Venus. I attribute her behavior to the taurus part of her, because I love Aries. and those with Aries dominance.
If I may?
In both scenarios, they just opened an account with me. Every time they fuck up after that is a withdrawal from that account. When it's empty (they fuck up bad enough or I can't take it anymore), I close the account.
Not happy about or proud of it, but I just blocked a sister and her husband's phone numbers and social media pages.
Posted by cheekyfaeriesorry to hear - it's really hard when it's family and a lot of people do not realize how bad it can get and how much sometimes ones needs to just say "stop" ... I've been there and it's awful but self preservation rules even with family ... hang in there !
If I may?
In both scenarios, they just opened an account with me. Every time they fuck up after that is a withdrawal from that account. When it's empty (they fuck up bad enough or I can't take it anymore), I close the account.
Not happy about or proud of it, but I just blocked a sister and her husband's phone numbers and social media pages.
I've literally dealt with both these things in the past year.
1. a friend betrayed me to the point of no return. admittedly i did something that indirectly affected him, but he seemed to take it sooo hard as if I crushed his soul (he's a leo, btw, so he probably thinks he's totally justified for what he did to me in return. How dare anyone care about themselves more than him. THE NERVE! *sarcasm*). Anyway, I apologized profusely, because even tho he made too big a deal out of it, I felt sorry that I hurt him. Instead of being mature and trying to work things out he basically tried to create a smear campaign to sully my name. This friend and I have been through a lot, yet had always managed to come back together in the end, so needless to say, I was hurt, livid and felt extremely betrayed. His mode retaliation was so petty and low that all I could think was…we must have never been friends in the first place if he could do that to me. The only thing I could do was chalk it up as a lost and never make contact again. Thats how you know you've really hurt a scorpio. If I see him around, I'm not rude, I'll speak, but as far as trying to mend a friendship…friend? he's dead to me. I'm actively "vengeful" only if I care enough. And I figured…he obviously doesn't care about me…so I give less of a shit about him.
2. Smh my boyfriend does stupid shit all the time (also a leo). But he recently did something that, in hind sight, wasn't a HUGE deal as i made it in that moment, but it was the principal of it all. But when he did what he did, I felt so betrayed and lied to by someone whom I care for sooo much…..so I woke him up with a size 8 gladiator sandal across his head. I felt like he broke my trust and told him we were done. I screamed and cried and wouldn't let him explain himself, all the while swinging my sandal at his face (again..the more I care about something, the more passionate/crazy i get). After a good 12 hours of separation, I calmed down but still felt like I had every right to feel the way I felt. He owned up to his mistakes and promised to never let me feel that way again. And like I said…in hind sight, I blew it out of proportion and could have gotten an answer by asking instead of going all Rambo on his ass, but hey…he's with a scorpio. All I need is a heart-felt apology and to know that YOU KNOW what you did was wrong, and I can forgive you. Basically, you have to show me that you'll never do it again (...if I care enough about you to give you another chance).
1. a friend betrayed me to the point of no return. admittedly i did something that indirectly affected him, but he seemed to take it sooo hard as if I crushed his soul (he's a leo, btw, so he probably thinks he's totally justified for what he did to me in return. How dare anyone care about themselves more than him. THE NERVE! *sarcasm*). Anyway, I apologized profusely, because even tho he made too big a deal out of it, I felt sorry that I hurt him. Instead of being mature and trying to work things out he basically tried to create a smear campaign to sully my name. This friend and I have been through a lot, yet had always managed to come back together in the end, so needless to say, I was hurt, livid and felt extremely betrayed. His mode retaliation was so petty and low that all I could think was…we must have never been friends in the first place if he could do that to me. The only thing I could do was chalk it up as a lost and never make contact again. Thats how you know you've really hurt a scorpio. If I see him around, I'm not rude, I'll speak, but as far as trying to mend a friendship…friend? he's dead to me. I'm actively "vengeful" only if I care enough. And I figured…he obviously doesn't care about me…so I give less of a shit about him.
2. Smh my boyfriend does stupid shit all the time (also a leo). But he recently did something that, in hind sight, wasn't a HUGE deal as i made it in that moment, but it was the principal of it all. But when he did what he did, I felt so betrayed and lied to by someone whom I care for sooo much…..so I woke him up with a size 8 gladiator sandal across his head. I felt like he broke my trust and told him we were done. I screamed and cried and wouldn't let him explain himself, all the while swinging my sandal at his face (again..the more I care about something, the more passionate/crazy i get). After a good 12 hours of separation, I calmed down but still felt like I had every right to feel the way I felt. He owned up to his mistakes and promised to never let me feel that way again. And like I said…in hind sight, I blew it out of proportion and could have gotten an answer by asking instead of going all Rambo on his ass, but hey…he's with a scorpio. All I need is a heart-felt apology and to know that YOU KNOW what you did was wrong, and I can forgive you. Basically, you have to show me that you'll never do it again (...if I care enough about you to give you another chance).
Posted by ElleDuMondeI feel like everyone of all signs deal with this!
Serious question - has any scorpio *not* dealt with these two scenarios? It seems as though as they are a rite of passage of sorts for scorpio.
Could be our high expectations of loyalty and trust.
Some people dgaf and give people passes....I just cant.
that's just my opinion, but I feel like it's a universal human experience. I guess we all pretty much handle it similarly even if we may have vengeful thoughts.
that's what made me curious! I always read those negative connotations with Scorpio and vengeance, and I feel like that's such a stereotype that nobody even really truly possesses or acts on. though obviously there are those individuals that do.
Posted by aquanibhaha I love this. so true in regards to reading this post hahaha
Recommended music while reading the thread:
😄 😄😄
😛
thanks for sharing!
Posted by degenerate_ingenueI do nothing. Simply end the friendship or relationship. I'm not into talking it out, I also don't want to hear any lame excuses or try to resolve a problem I see well far gone. At the end of the day, no trust, no relationship. Platonic or otherwise. So I'll keep it moving.
1) a friend betrays you. on one end, you feel internal rage because they really upset you and obliterated your trust. on the other end, you feel extremely upset that they would ever do said thing to you (doesn't matter what they did- make it up in your head- worst of the worst)
2) a significant other does something pretty stupid. but stupid enough to also obliterate your trust and completely take a hit at your ego to where you want to end it...even if you end up NOT ending it.
for these two scenarios imagine the worst of the worst. I don't know. whatever the number one betrayal is based on your perspective. what are your responses to these people? what is your next move? how do you react?
Same as everyone else. I will disappear forever. If I'm feeling somewhat understanding, I MIGHT give them another chance. However, if the transgression indicates a larger character flaw, I bounce. Even thought I may think of it, there will be no vengeance or getting even.
If I know I've especially been good to this person, my only form of vengeance is to let them live their life without me.
If I know I've especially been good to this person, my only form of vengeance is to let them live their life without me.
1) delete from my memory and stay away from them for good
2) forgive them is alright to injure my ego it doesn't matter really
but i won't forget this incident never forget and my trust towards you
as drop to below 50% so i would want to at least know why you do that
2) forgive them is alright to injure my ego it doesn't matter really
but i won't forget this incident never forget and my trust towards you
as drop to below 50% so i would want to at least know why you do that
Join the Conversation. Explore Yourself. Connect with Others.
Discover insights, swap stories, and find people. dxpnet is where experiences turn into understanding.
Create Your Free Account →Related Topics
What do you guys think of getting bit or biting people during make out sessions/sex? What's your Mars and Venus? I like it a lot on both sides. But since I have a huge issue with the side of my neck, I prefer it lower on the neck. Aries Venus Scorpi
I just checked my Dads Natal chart... and then my family I seriously realized something odd. I have Stellium in 7th house Sagittarius My Dad's has Stellium in 7th house Libra My Mom's has Stellium in 9th house Scorpio My Brother is close to having
Scorpio Sun with Aquarius Moon guy & their personality traits ?
I have another topic on here about my now ex-boyfriend Scorpio. Basically, he iced me out after an argument and said he wanted to end things. Well, I tried to calm him down for two or three days, and then I just gave up and left him alone. A day after
We had been seeing each other for about 3/4 months when my Scorpio broke things off. He got really cold towards the end, he’d disappear for days and then make up excuses for it. It took being out of town for a month for him to finally tell me he didn’
But question.. If a male Scorpio says mean things or tries to hurt your feelings/ call you names.. Does this mean he is complete done.. Or that he is pissed off and using his stinger? .. And needs a long moment to calm down?
All my life, I have felt very much like a Scorpio, but for the life of me.. I can't figure out why. I know that my Pluto is in Scorpio but it's a generational thing and I don't see why it would effect my personality much. Very intense feelings..jealous..
I was talking with a fellow Scorp the other day about how we tend to keep score with every single person who has ever hurt us (with or without them knowing that we were upset/offended/hurt by their actions or words). We both admitted to being very grudge-
If a male Scorpio blocks your number and social media. Is he done forever? Or is there a chance he will hit you up again?
Cancer or Pisces. Or even an earth sign. Why or why not?
1) a friend betrays you. on one end, you feel internal rage because they really upset you and obliterated your trust. on the other end, you feel extremely upset that they would ever do said thing to you (doesn't matter what they did- make it up in your head- worst of the worst)
2) a significant other does something pretty stupid. but stupid enough to also obliterate your trust and completely take a hit at your ego to where you want to end it...even if you end up NOT ending it.
for these two scenarios imagine the worst of the worst. I don't know. whatever the number one betrayal is based on your perspective. what are your responses to these people? what is your next move? how do you react?
I am going to post my response in a comment below. so I don't have a novel going on. I will say that my reaction to these scenarios is never vengeful...yet Scorpio is somehow "known" as the vengeful sign. curious to hear how others react.