why do scorps enjoy retribution?

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Addenda to my last message. As far as ENJOYING it, that's a matter of opinion. I just did something awful to the man I love, out of retribution, because my pain was so intense. Did I enjoy it? Maybe momentarily, but my heart is heavy now...... Even though he hurt me deeply, I hate what I did to him, because I still love him and I don't think it is right to hurt the one you love.

There's a song, "I begged and pleaded in true lovers fashion, now I'm driving down the road with my rear view mirror torn off." Basically, when you've done all you can do, you got to go down that road and not look back. I pulled out all the stops and did the last thing I knew to do. Maybe it will work, maybe not......

So what's your story—??
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Addenda to my last message. As far as ENJOYING it, that's a matter of opinion. I just did something awful to the man I love, out of retribution, because my pain was so intense. Did I enjoy it? Maybe momentarily, but my heart is heavy now...... Even though he hurt me deeply, I hate what I did to him, because I still love him and I don't think it is right to hurt the one you love.

There's a song, "I begged and pleaded in true lovers fashion, now I'm driving down the road with my rear view mirror torn off." Basically, when you've done all you can do, you got to go down that road and not look back. I pulled out all the stops and did the last thing I knew to do. Maybe it will work, maybe not......

So what's your story—??
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I guess we lost the person who posted the orignial message—??

So what did ya do to her that hurt you so bad?

I'm needing conversation here.

I finally goofed off on my guy and I told him, 'cause I was sick and tired of finding his little dirty evidence. At the time I enjoyed the H*** out of the look on his face. But later I regretted it. That "turn about's fair play" crap is just not all it's cracked up to be. Then I felt so bad about it that I told him I'd made it up just to show him how it feels when I find out that he's messing around. I don't think he's convinced that I didn't really do it, but I decided I'm not gonna let it bother me. I don't think he has any intention of changing, he'll probably just try to be more discreet. oh well, that's my sad-sack love life at the moment.

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ok... ill tell you what happend...

5 months ago... my ex-girlfriend left me for another man (infidelity is a biatch)... i have been really hurt for 5 months and there are still shards of pain left in what i feel. but anyways, my ex and i still had a close relationship, she considered me a bestfriend practically because i know every inch and everything she could think of. i was the only one that understood her... its been 6 months with her boyfriend (his boyfriend and i don't get along). and already he is already taking her forgranted and treating like s***... hence, as a bestfriend to her, i told her to leave him and made her realize that he could be such an Azz and how selfish he is... knowing my ex. i know she will break up with him (that was my retribution... what comes around goes around._) now its time for hime to feel what i felt... and i kinda enjoyed it (i know what i did is not wrong because he used her and took her for granted.)...
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So how do you cope with being "friends" when you are still in love with her? I'm sure you find yourself hoping that she'll come back, eh? "Being Friends" is always easiest for the one who left the relationship, not the one who got left. I hope you do okay with it. Since you are a guy, it may be easier for you to handle. I got dumped after a five year relationship one time and he wanted to remain "friends". It took me 7 years to get over him, I think because everytime we'd talk, even though it wasn't about our relationship, just catching up on each other's lives, etc., anyway, I'd always come away with the false hope that somewhere deep inside he wanted me back and then I'd obsess for a couple of weeks. One of the negative characteristics of our dark side - obsession.
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I-sun, do you really want her back or are you staying friends with her to get revenge? It sounds like you told her to break up with the new bf because of motives of your own, not because you were concerned for her welfare (dont know, I could be wrong??). I have found that it is always too painful to remain friends after r/ship. Like the post above, you either pine for them or they continuelly rub every failure in your face. Do you really want to stay around and sabotage her relationships or do you want to move on? I dont mean to sound harsh but why dont you either work out how you feel (if you really do love her or just dont want her to have anyone else) and either tell her or save yourself (and her) the torture and move on? Dunno, guess ive decided life is too short to play games but then again, that's all i did in my twenties...
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i remain to stay friends with her not because of alterior motif's of dreaming to have her back... i have accepted that even if i love her unconditionally... you cannot force someone to love you. feelings have to come without force, without hesitation. first of, she wants to keep me as a bestfriend, i know it is not healthy on my part to easily move on. but the fact is, i cannot leave her that easily, because our families are so intertwined that to forget about her is almost impossible. our families have been friends for 20 years now... unlesss something drastic happens like murder or betreyal. we both have to see each other. for the last post, no,i am not sabotaging all her relationships, infact i encourage her to find someone on her level. she has a problem of finding men that are assholes, the only reason she gave up on me because treated her like my queen. (she felt that she was not challeged enough, to the point that she wanted a man that she could change).
Like i said, being bestfriends with her is not something that i obsess about its something that i have to do. its not my descision, its her's... what could you do if you were me? outcast myself?. i would like to hear a better reason.
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Yeah, I supose I didnt know the story but now you have shed light on it and it makes it easier for me to understant. I understand your point about unconditional love, I too have felt this for a person and its nice, you dont care what you gain out of it as long as they are happy.
Its good that you are looking out for her best interests. I cant believe she broke it off with you because you treated her like a queen. Most women complain about men treating them badly, it makes me if women can ever be happy at all, unless their being abused. I have seen so much of this happen and I wonder why some girls I know stay in the relationships they do.
Im not telling you what to do and if I did, Im sure you wouldnt listen to me anyway!!! All I can say I-sun is good luck because now you have shed light on it, I know how it feels. If you want to chat anytime, I am here.
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Lady scorp here.

I don't actually enjoy retribution--but the whole issue of justice is a big one in my life. I enjoy seeing justice done. Turnabout may not always be pleasant, but I personally believe that it is fair play. A huge challenge for Scorpios is to learn to rise above and transcend the lower/primitive realms of existence, and engaging in tit-for-tat probably isn't always the most mature thing to do. However, I think there are times when not only is revenge or retribution an option, but a necessary evil. We are all here to teach one another lessons--some people need to experience a taste of their own bitter medicine in order to understand the importance of doing right by others.
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How true. It is all about justice. You're right, the only way to learn is to 'experience' and sometimes the only way to experience a certain thing is to go through pain. Pain is the best way to learn as it changes you inside. It doesnt matter how much you are told, unless you know how something feels you will keep doing it.
I am a libra and I enjoy seeing justice done, especially when it happens to someone who has done something really really bad. I know its terrible, but some people just deserve it...
I know this message was aimed at scorpios but when it comes to justice, I get on a rave... just try and stop me.
Ive been thinking about tit for tat play lately (strange you should mention it pheonix_rising) and it is tempting but pointless, now more than ever, i cut my losses (not without its own hurt though) and move on. I always wish revenge on the person though, infact there's someone out there right now who deserves a bit of... but anyway...
Ill tell you a quick story that will make you laugh:
When i was a baby girl (well,21) i went into business with a 'friend'. I had all the ideas, did all the running around and even came up with our business name and concept. It was successful right from the start. At that stage we were taking home a few thousand dollars each a month. Anyway, she eventually cuts me out and brings in a third party. Being so young, i was heartbroken, tried to suee (but couldnt) so eventually walked away. Two years later, they carried on the initial success but things started to slide... after about 2.5 yrs, they decided to call it a day. They planned one last fiesta (to make lots of money). To cut a long story short, they spent thousands on advertising and stood to make THOUSANDSSSS during their last night of operation. The NIGHT before the fiesta, the manager of the venue (who sold me out as well) declared bankrupcy and left the state. The whole thing was ruined so not only did they lost thousands on advertising, they lost THOUSANDS in potential income.
All this and i didnt even have to lift a finger. The funny thing was that i didnt even care as i had moved on by then but i couldnt help but think it was DIVINE justice. 'Justice resides with the gods below' - famous quote from Sophocles Antigone.
A bid you farewell my dear friends.
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You're awesome, Libra friend! I'm glad that the ones who screwed you over got what they deserved. I firmly believe that what goes around, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS comes around--even if it takes years to happen. The universe wouldn't be a fair or efficient place if it wasn't so. I will concede that there seem to be rare instances where justice never seems to be done. It is in those cases that I believe that what isn't learned on earth, will be learned three-fold in the hereafter. And what's weird is that it always seems like right when you "get over" a wrong that's been done to you, is right when whoever did it get a big fat Karma-whap on the rear-end. LOL. Ever notice that?

BTW, maybe why I'm so big on the justice thing is because I'm a Scorp with Libra rising(?). Which probably makes me even more of a freak about it! 🙂

Anyway, I hope those people learned their lesson(s).

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there was a time when i wanted revenge really bad against my first love. i did'nt take it when the break-up happen i thought to myself if we ever got back together, i would not want a nasty past to be held against me. i was 16 at the time. well he got with someone esle, got her pregant and dumped her. then he came back to me. i made like i loved him and promised my life to our lives together. then when he was about to leave and go back to the city, he tired to kiss me and confess his deep love for me. i let him then i told him that i thought of him as a fool. i laugh at him and told him that he made me sick. i felt that if he could do to me and the mother of his child as he pleased then i could do the same. he started to cry and say that he was sorry and so on. for a brief moment this touched me. then i told him that i was sorry that he was sorry and all that sorry s*** made me sick. he came back four years later when i was engaged to my now former husband and i apologized for being a b****. he told me that what i did really made him grow-up and he showed me pictures of the baby girl. since that time i've been hurt and betrayed many times and i let the fates' take care of retribution because i don't want to hurt or be hurt by it.