how do i solve this mess with a taurus man?

Within the same sentence he likes to chase yet you dropped off a gift on his doorstep which is pretty creepy and stalkerish.

Yes, they take things slowly and don't trust much less like women who seem desperate. They're in it for the long haul or a quick one nighter. Which one do you want to be?
Your self-esteem shouldn't be on the line with ANY man so no need to fret. Those guys who responded quickly aren't there anymore, right? So......

no I sent him a gift through a florist like got delivered he then returned it on my doorstep the previous guys were relationships that were very very long term. thanks for the help it just seems the odded situation i been in with men.

surely sending flowers isn't considered creepy and stalkerish—?

What? I don't even know why you're still bothering with the guy. If someone went out of their way to return their gift, I would take that as a huge "Not interested! Leave me alone!" I say he's the one who blew it by being a douche. I have a feeling that there might be more to this story than you let on. I don't see how his actions add up to him being like this unless he is seriously a total asshole.

Also, I have dropped a gift off on the doorstep of a crush that I had known for a long time and I am far from stalkerish. His birthday was coming up, he was out of town for business, I knew his roomie would see it, and it saved me shipping costs. He and I are still friends to this day. I can't tell if I'm creepy or not though. I'm sure to a few I am.

What if the bar is her local too?
Who gets jurisdiction of the bar in a situation like this?


And sorry to threadjack, but I am thinking of returning a piece of jewellry to a Taur who said he would "keep in touch" but hasn't (so far - not sure if I am being the impatient Aries here.)
Feels weird to keep something from a person who doesn't like me.
Will he think I am a creepy stalker if I send it back? I don't feel like a stalker, just someone keeping it honest.

Posted by butterkup
the only thing i left out is that during the two days he stayed he wandered through my house took note of everything i owned and kept mentioning how materially abundant i was and through the weekend he also interrogated me about all my past relationships. he wanted to know if I had cheated if I had knowingly slept with someone if I knew they were attached that sort of thing and when he learnt of a situation of the past he dint like he told me he felt i was un trust worthy but when he still asked for my phone number and introduced me to his dad i didn't think it was an issue. he did tell me that because of the hours spent alone driving at work he has a lot of time to analylise things and that he can evaluate information at length my conclusion is he heard things he didn't like thought about them and thought i was a flight risk. Everyone tells me that if I had been patient and waited for him to come to me things would have been different.

OK. He is sounding a little odd to me.....who wanders thru someone else's house taking an inventory—
I think you may have dodged a bullet

If you sent me beer I would sit on your doorstep till you came home and could share them with me.

thisis probably why i have had better success in the past with aeries. I dunno why but i still want this guy lol i think its because ive seen him around for like soooooo many years

Sounds like he has some real trust issues and is more than a bit of a control freak. Stop sending him gifts please. He's done nothing to warrant them or the attention really. If you've known each other ( or *of* each other ) for quite some time he shouldn't be so uptight about a phone call from you, you had the number. One can but assume he himself provided it. I sincerely doubt he works for military intel or Brink's in his off time. I really feel if you pursue this you'll be sorry for it later.

Posted by butterkup
this is funny now the focus initially was on making peace with the man lol now its become the integreity of gifts and weather they are stalkerish and creepy. Honestly I always get hung up on guys that stop showing interest i see them as a challenge but this situation to me was weird and different hot and cold. The gift was only some beer and some choclates wrapped up in a fancy box most guys like that. i just want to make peace with him and eventually be friends or make up.

make up with him for what?

you sound kinda desperate and a little to hot and heavy given that you haven't known him very long.

also, why is he living with his daddy?