I think he just threw down a challenge

So last night, I went bar hopping with my taurus. We had a few too many drinks so to speak, but in the midst of it, we had some serious heart to hearts that probably wouldn't have flowed as easily had we had a little liquid courage. My taurus finally said to me "You know we're together, right?". And last night, he even introduced me as his girlfriend to his coworkers/friends at his job. We talked a lot about how we cared about each other and that we made each other happy. I made a comment that he was the first person in my life I felt was truly worth fighting for. After that, he said to me, "You have to fight for me, and keep fighting for me. At one point, I'm going to get freaked out by all of this. If you feel like I'm not doing my best or that I'm fucking up, I give you permission to leave, because sometimes I hate myself and I might mess up."

Basically, this is challenge accepted lol, but I'm still trying to decipher what it means, a little. Is this something a taurus/guy in general would say/admit to? Is he basically saying that at some point, he's going to want to run, but that he still wants me there to hold on to him?

It's been a really emotionally trying and eye-opening couple of weeks for him and I, and I'm a little freaked out myself, but at the same time, I feel as comfortable as ever.

HAHAHAHA OH TAURUS. How selfless we are, how giving. Even to the detriment of our own happiness. Shielding those we love even from ourselves. Giving them leave to take flight if they choose. What absolute martyrs we are, so deeply entrenched in self doubt that we feel we must continue to cock-block our own asses.

OH LORD *slowly sinking to knees gracefully* SAVE ME FROM MYSELF.

YEP, he wants to make sure you're in it to win it Candeh. He's in love with you. Roll with it. 🙂

i don't know his placements but i think what VB is in part right...i don't want to be with you if you don't want and desire to give your FULL self to me.

this means that you have to accept me as i am...faults and all. i'm not perfect, but Venus is vain and i strive to be. you MUST recognize this. you MUST recognize that i am acutely aware of my short-comings and IF i happen to be oblivious now, give me a CLEAR path toward change. i WILL change eventually, but you have to recognize that my stubbornness and obtuse nature make it far more difficult to self-correct at a moments notice.

all in all, if he's declared you "his," you are HIS. taurus says "mine" and by virtue of that, you are now possessed.

i don't know about the other taureans, but for me, relationships are about ME. i'm selfish like that. if there's a problem, i NEED to find a path toward making things right. this isn't to say that you don't bring issues to the table, but i recognize that the only person i can truly control is me.

and maybe that's the odd thing about this taurus. maybe thanks to my 12th house influences, i am far more introspective than i need to be. if something is wrong, i martyr...in the positive. "ok, you're right. i am f'd up. i do need to change this/that, but i'm not ready."

the point is, i recognize that a change needs to be made. the crucial part for a partner is being supportive and understanding that change will come. it may take ions, but eventually, those things you want for me, i desire for myself.

Venus desires perfection...in self and in others.

taurus, unfortunately, is so insecure and is filled with so much doubt that we are slow to acknowledge and own all that is good about us...as well as the bad.

in long, just love him. be there...consistently. challenge him. let him know you expect his best...even when he's not giving it and he will eventually rise to the occasion.

Well said madam.

Yup. Sounds like a runner and he knows it. It seems like he has commitment issues but he cares so he's telling you now to prepare yourself for the inevitable "take-off" down the road. It's important to really listen to what he's telling you. This whole thing reminds me of the relationship I had with my old Taurus FWB. The only difference is that he had already (sort of) come to terms with his issue and decided to toss monogamy completely... but he still tried once.

However, you seem determined and aware that you are about to take on something possibly bigger than you. As two consenting adults, I give you my blessing 😉 Good luck!

Yep "FAIR" warning but he loves you. 🙂

I'm happy for u,now let me warn u when a bull has made up his or her mind there is no going back!Good luck.

Posted by caligula
i don't know his placements but i think what VB is in part right...i don't want to be with you if you don't want and desire to give your FULL self to me.

this means that you have to accept me as i am...faults and all. i'm not perfect, but Venus is vain and i strive to be. you MUST recognize this. you MUST recognize that i am acutely aware of my short-comings and IF i happen to be oblivious now, give me a CLEAR path toward change. i WILL change eventually, but you have to recognize that my stubbornness and obtuse nature make it far more difficult to self-correct at a moments notice.

all in all, if he's declared you "his," you are HIS. taurus says "mine" and by virtue of that, you are now possessed.

i don't know about the other taureans, but for me, relationships are about ME. i'm selfish like that. if there's a problem, i NEED to find a path toward making things right. this isn't to say that you don't bring issues to the table, but i recognize that the only person i can truly control is me.

and maybe that's the odd thing about this taurus. maybe thanks to my 12th house influences, i am far more introspective than i need to be. if something is wrong, i martyr...in the positive. "ok, you're right. i am f'd up. i do need to change this/that, but i'm not ready."

the point is, i recognize that a change needs to be made. the crucial part for a partner is being supportive and understanding that change will come. it may take ions, but eventually, those things you want for me, i desire for myself.

Venus desires perfection...in self and in others.

taurus, unfortunately, is so insecure and is filled with so much doubt that we are slow to acknowledge and own all that is good about us...as well as the bad.

in long, just love him. be there...consistently. challenge him. let him know you expect his best...even when he's not giving it and he will eventually rise to the occasion.

You and VB both know how to break it down to a level that is so easy to understand and apply. I don't remind him often, but I tell him that he is in control of his own behavior and that my intention (when being with him) is to try to change him. Maybe only set an example through myself. My only goal is to be there for him, love him, to be his friend and confidant, and offer support when it's right.

Posted by KittyKnitter
I don't know if this is about being a Taurean or a guy who expects to hurt and be hurt or something else. What he actually thinks and feels and what he admits to you are different things. He knows you care about him and he issues a challenge, which of course he expects you to take and that shifts the responsibility of what happens onto you. Clever Taurus. So you can make a challenge of your own, which is to share the responsibility of being honest and clear and open. Just remember what you hear is not always the whole story, neither is what you see. There is a lot under the surface and he will put up his guard when he wants to. He will do what it takes to get his way. Let's hope your way is his way.

So he has to fit into your life and you have to fit into his. He will be very stubborn. That is a given. Will he stick to the patterns of the past? He could strike out or run when he feels vulnerable. Offensive behavior when feels defensive. If you are determined to be in it, you are going to have to make sure that he respects you and himself. If he runs, let him go. If he strikes out, he has to apologize. If he closes up, then he will likely talk at some point but will you wait? If he needs his space at times, you are going to have to let him come to you. Will he do what it takes to keep you in his life? You are going to have to hold him accountable for the things he says and does and he is going to have to meet your expectations. So be very clear on what you want and need and be careful of settling for less than what you deserve. He will likely be passive-aggressive at times and at other times he will play mindgames just to assure himself that you really do care and to gain some sense of control when he is feeling vulnerable. Be prepared to be frustrated and reach the limit of your patience more than once. The whole truth will likely remain hidden til he is confident enough to share it. Can you be consistent in your own behavior and know when to draw a line that neither your nor he can cross? This has the best chance of working if you are both fair in your dealings with each other.

You want to make sure this really works for you and that you take care of you first. He is adult. He can take care of himself. Together, you can have something wonderful but it is team effort.

We've been through a lot the nine months we've been toget

a lot of ups and plenty of downs. I've already experienced what it's like to be frustrated, to feel defeated, to own up to my own mistakes and to help him see his. It's not easy and it won't really be. A lot of the things you mentioned I've already had a taste for, and being with him has a taught me a lot about my own shortcomings and my own power.

Posted by 69virgo
1st warning..😉

1st warning about what? I'm sure there will be many warnings over time lol.

Haha, thanks 69 🙂

Despite this possibly being a warning, I'm still happy that he divulged that to me (albeit, when we were both getting a little drunk). I think it prepares me in a way, and shows there is a growing level of trust between us. I haven't had that kind of communication before with a guy, so it's something new for me as well as a milestone in itself.

I think the warning is that he is crazy, but don't worry it's a good kind of crazy.