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This is a GREAT question! One that should be asked of both sexes. I do wonder the same thing about the signals that men send out. Seems to me that we humans are pretty confusing creatures. I can only speak for myself in this situation so I will answer from my point of view (female).
I feel that we feed off of the male signals especially if we like him. I know that I really liked this Taurus male and all of a sudden, he backed away. It was quiet time. So, I sort of took that to mean that he didn't care for me. I then went into "protection" mode so that I wouldn't get hurt. Silly me! Then he would ask me out and then not follow up, he just forgot. Now, what kind of signal is that? Not sure on this end. Maybe we are not aware of the signals that we send, maybe some are subconcious, maybe some are interpreted in a false way or maybe it is all about PERCEPTION...what WE each create in our mind of what is going on that may not be going on. I so feel as I have been traveling this road of relationships is that the best thing to do is to just ask the other person how they feel. There is no sense in trying to understand someone else's signals as you can see it can be very confusing. If we need to know something, we need to find the courage within to approach and ask the other person and to be willing to accept their answer. I think what stops us from doing this is the FEAR of rejection. Ah, no such thing. If the person does not give us the answer that we are desiring, than it is a hidden gift and we should be thankful that it was given to us and then, move on. Oh, this is so much easier than trying to read signals as I find that this is wasting too much of my time and energy for life. Here you have this FEMALES POINT OF VIEW (FPOV). Hope it helps.
AFx2
I feel that we feed off of the male signals especially if we like him. I know that I really liked this Taurus male and all of a sudden, he backed away. It was quiet time. So, I sort of took that to mean that he didn't care for me. I then went into "protection" mode so that I wouldn't get hurt. Silly me! Then he would ask me out and then not follow up, he just forgot. Now, what kind of signal is that? Not sure on this end. Maybe we are not aware of the signals that we send, maybe some are subconcious, maybe some are interpreted in a false way or maybe it is all about PERCEPTION...what WE each create in our mind of what is going on that may not be going on. I so feel as I have been traveling this road of relationships is that the best thing to do is to just ask the other person how they feel. There is no sense in trying to understand someone else's signals as you can see it can be very confusing. If we need to know something, we need to find the courage within to approach and ask the other person and to be willing to accept their answer. I think what stops us from doing this is the FEAR of rejection. Ah, no such thing. If the person does not give us the answer that we are desiring, than it is a hidden gift and we should be thankful that it was given to us and then, move on. Oh, this is so much easier than trying to read signals as I find that this is wasting too much of my time and energy for life. Here you have this FEMALES POINT OF VIEW (FPOV). Hope it helps.
AFx2
AFx2,
Good one! Here is another. I am the type that lives off PERCEPTIONS!!! It can be a the best baramoter of feelings and one instinct that I trust the most. Sometimes I am wrong, but usually I am on not. I found that using your senses and observing what people do is more accurate than what they say, with some people.LOL I go on feelings. Lots of times people won't open and speak what the heart wants them to say, and you can get now where fast. Sometimes they will even contradict their heart because their fear makes their mind goe blank and their mouth goes dry and the pulse starts racing and then you have a catatonic person who is just useless. To bad the brain controls the mouth it should be the heart. No tellin what kind of converstaions we would have. Be kind of neat! I wonder, does that makes me a stalker if I am always watching people doesn't it?! lol
BG
Good one! Here is another. I am the type that lives off PERCEPTIONS!!! It can be a the best baramoter of feelings and one instinct that I trust the most. Sometimes I am wrong, but usually I am on not. I found that using your senses and observing what people do is more accurate than what they say, with some people.LOL I go on feelings. Lots of times people won't open and speak what the heart wants them to say, and you can get now where fast. Sometimes they will even contradict their heart because their fear makes their mind goe blank and their mouth goes dry and the pulse starts racing and then you have a catatonic person who is just useless. To bad the brain controls the mouth it should be the heart. No tellin what kind of converstaions we would have. Be kind of neat! I wonder, does that makes me a stalker if I am always watching people doesn't it?! lol
BG
that was another (FPOV) just in case you wondered or I sould say (HPOV).
Now, just asking is too obvious. (even though it is the most direct). Let us assume that you don't want to seem "too forward", but you want to let the person know you have a special interest in them. How would you convey this interest in those "female ways" that make you different and special. It is the subtle hints, by action or words that we males would like to know....so, come on and dig deep.
TM
TM
TM, you're finally asking a question. I'm proud of you. Welcome to the human race 🙂
"Who has been asked to ask something" (thanks for appeasing me), Well TM I'm not really at a loss, but if I go on and on a novel will be written. From my experience which is similar to AFx2(she summed it up great), my taurus male had interest in me, when I started to reciprocate he backed away. Not to mention us scheduling times to meet on particualr days and times and then out of the blue a "no show" or "no call to cancel" (you know that alzheimer's must have set in on his part) and he didn't even mention it there after. This has to be a male taurus trait because I've heard this experience a lot from female posters and I know we're not talking about the same man 🙂. So like AFx2 I went in "PROTECTION" mode as well and sort of became aloof without really wanting to do that because I started to care deeply for him and had the fear of getting hurt by him. So what kind of signal is that? It all boils down to the "FEAR OF REJECTION". If there was no fear, we would say and do everything and anything.
Well getting back to your situation now (SORRY, see what I told you novel) Anyway, The signals that I personally will give back (whether good or bad) depends on the guys actions. Actions speak louder than words in my opinion and if I see that he is doing things in a particular way, leads me to act accordingly to him. This is only if I like him. If I don't, then I'm basically blunt! (not mean though only if he's a pain).
As we all know females (and some men)are more nuturing, maternal, etc.. you know all that good stuff. That's why it's so easy for us to talk amongst fellow females or to men about ourselves, life, love, etc. (you get it). Most of the time the ball is in the guys court when a woman likes them and they at times don't know how to "Swoop a Hoop". 🙂 You're right when you said asking is too obvious because that may seem too direct and prying, but I think at some point it is NEEDED especially if there is no progress in the relationship, and if the two have gotten close enough to ask such questions. It all depends on the couple and their personalities. Signals are something else boy, a form of communication, and sometimes people have to learn that not everyone speak the same language. It's the human species at it's best.
Now what female has got your mind going. You wouldn't have asked anything otherwise.
ML
"Who has been asked to ask something" (thanks for appeasing me), Well TM I'm not really at a loss, but if I go on and on a novel will be written. From my experience which is similar to AFx2(she summed it up great), my taurus male had interest in me, when I started to reciprocate he backed away. Not to mention us scheduling times to meet on particualr days and times and then out of the blue a "no show" or "no call to cancel" (you know that alzheimer's must have set in on his part) and he didn't even mention it there after. This has to be a male taurus trait because I've heard this experience a lot from female posters and I know we're not talking about the same man 🙂. So like AFx2 I went in "PROTECTION" mode as well and sort of became aloof without really wanting to do that because I started to care deeply for him and had the fear of getting hurt by him. So what kind of signal is that? It all boils down to the "FEAR OF REJECTION". If there was no fear, we would say and do everything and anything.
Well getting back to your situation now (SORRY, see what I told you novel) Anyway, The signals that I personally will give back (whether good or bad) depends on the guys actions. Actions speak louder than words in my opinion and if I see that he is doing things in a particular way, leads me to act accordingly to him. This is only if I like him. If I don't, then I'm basically blunt! (not mean though only if he's a pain).
As we all know females (and some men)are more nuturing, maternal, etc.. you know all that good stuff. That's why it's so easy for us to talk amongst fellow females or to men about ourselves, life, love, etc. (you get it). Most of the time the ball is in the guys court when a woman likes them and they at times don't know how to "Swoop a Hoop". 🙂 You're right when you said asking is too obvious because that may seem too direct and prying, but I think at some point it is NEEDED especially if there is no progress in the relationship, and if the two have gotten close enough to ask such questions. It all depends on the couple and their personalities. Signals are something else boy, a form of communication, and sometimes people have to learn that not everyone speak the same language. It's the human species at it's best.
Now what female has got your mind going. You wouldn't have asked anything otherwise.
ML
I don't think you can handle it— It may be to much for you!!!!!
Wonderbox
Wonderbox
You know what floats my boat with others? It is complete honesty. Why can't we just ask a question, what is so bad about being obvious? IT is the truth isn't it? I must say, this would be a great way for a relationship to begin. If one can not handle honesty at the beginning what makes one think they will later? If we truly trust our instincts,....we can FEEL if the other person likes us, we just KNOW. ML, I completely understand YOU and you said your POV quite well. 🙂 I am glad that the Taurus Male that I was connected to showed his colors. He was letting me into his world, I was able to see what he was made of. If it is meant that we connect again, we will. I hold no hard feelings for him. Maybe he is just confused however, NO ONE should put up with disrespect.
"Circumstances don't make a man, they reveal him." ML, you are correct in noting that actions do speak louder than words.
TM, time for the INSTINCTS to come into play...you know when a woman cares for you. You can feel it. If you are paying attention, you will notice how she focuses on you, looks into your eyes, communicates to you, listens to you, touches you. You also know when someone doesn't care for you as they are not paying any attention, they just don't care. Sometimes I wonder if our senses have become deadend/numbed by computers, business, work, distractions that we have shut down our internal guidence system. We are not listening to ourselves or trusting ourselves. What is up with that? Ooops, looks like I too have begun writing a book. I could go on and on as well. I better end at this page and may begin another chapter later.
AFx2
BTW I think this is a great topic and I would like to see it continue as we may be making some progress here as far as "human connection" 🙂
"Circumstances don't make a man, they reveal him." ML, you are correct in noting that actions do speak louder than words.
TM, time for the INSTINCTS to come into play...you know when a woman cares for you. You can feel it. If you are paying attention, you will notice how she focuses on you, looks into your eyes, communicates to you, listens to you, touches you. You also know when someone doesn't care for you as they are not paying any attention, they just don't care. Sometimes I wonder if our senses have become deadend/numbed by computers, business, work, distractions that we have shut down our internal guidence system. We are not listening to ourselves or trusting ourselves. What is up with that? Ooops, looks like I too have begun writing a book. I could go on and on as well. I better end at this page and may begin another chapter later.
AFx2
BTW I think this is a great topic and I would like to see it continue as we may be making some progress here as far as "human connection" 🙂
OK Ladies:
Tell me why a woman would act like they are not inerested, and then when you just act like "OK, fine" and go on your merry way, here she comes, wonderng why you're not interested. On the other hand, if you begin to act interested, then they clam up. I have noted that sometimes, the worse you treat ladies, the more amorous they become. Just as I have seen ladies with jerks who openly treat them poorly.....is this some sort of desire to be treated roughly or what? And the ladies I speak with about this say the same thing..."Oh, I don't want to be treated like that", but in reality, they are.
And yes, one of my special female friends acts in this manner (as well as a few in the past). Seems like every time I treat her with special affections...she acts colder, but when I just brush it off and refuse to do it, she starts acting more amorously. Go figure. The confusing thing about it all seems to be that actions are different from beliefs, and one never knows what "belief" she has from one day to the next. I always have had a special feeling for women, I have never treated them as objects, and do understand that in a "man's" world it can be trying for women much of the time. But I don't understand why actions that women sometimes do contradict what they believe in. Example (Prime one)....I see women that dress very sexy at times, but be very quick to push all men away all the time that are drawn to that image they are projecting.
Is it because they are trying to convince themselves that they are still desirable or what?? I know that no man will ever know what goes on in the minds of women (and visa\versa), but try to share what goes on, and I promice to listen with a very open mind.
I am willing to wager an explaination will be hard to come by.
Taurus Male...
Tell me why a woman would act like they are not inerested, and then when you just act like "OK, fine" and go on your merry way, here she comes, wonderng why you're not interested. On the other hand, if you begin to act interested, then they clam up. I have noted that sometimes, the worse you treat ladies, the more amorous they become. Just as I have seen ladies with jerks who openly treat them poorly.....is this some sort of desire to be treated roughly or what? And the ladies I speak with about this say the same thing..."Oh, I don't want to be treated like that", but in reality, they are.
And yes, one of my special female friends acts in this manner (as well as a few in the past). Seems like every time I treat her with special affections...she acts colder, but when I just brush it off and refuse to do it, she starts acting more amorously. Go figure. The confusing thing about it all seems to be that actions are different from beliefs, and one never knows what "belief" she has from one day to the next. I always have had a special feeling for women, I have never treated them as objects, and do understand that in a "man's" world it can be trying for women much of the time. But I don't understand why actions that women sometimes do contradict what they believe in. Example (Prime one)....I see women that dress very sexy at times, but be very quick to push all men away all the time that are drawn to that image they are projecting.
Is it because they are trying to convince themselves that they are still desirable or what?? I know that no man will ever know what goes on in the minds of women (and visa\versa), but try to share what goes on, and I promice to listen with a very open mind.
I am willing to wager an explaination will be hard to come by.
Taurus Male...
And PS, Wonderbox, I most certainly can handle it. (What a name).
TM
TM
Maybe we just need to accept that we do not understand the opposite sex...what they do or why they do it. TM, if you really, really like someone don't you think it will just flow? it will be easy? there will be no work? it will all fall into place. No struggles.
My dad (Leo and his wife, Taurus) tell me this all the time. They said it is an incredible feeling to want to do so much for the other person. All the pieces just fell into place. I so believe that this will happen to all of us when we are open to it.
Maybe we shouldn't try to analyze people too much...just see it for what it is, whatever that may be 🙂
TM, I too have shown my affections to a guy and he just "poof" left, gone just like that....why? Hmmm....know what I think? because there are FEELINGS there and we don't know what to do with them. This may be a possibility...
I am learning a lot from this subject...thank you!
AFx2
My dad (Leo and his wife, Taurus) tell me this all the time. They said it is an incredible feeling to want to do so much for the other person. All the pieces just fell into place. I so believe that this will happen to all of us when we are open to it.
Maybe we shouldn't try to analyze people too much...just see it for what it is, whatever that may be 🙂
TM, I too have shown my affections to a guy and he just "poof" left, gone just like that....why? Hmmm....know what I think? because there are FEELINGS there and we don't know what to do with them. This may be a possibility...
I am learning a lot from this subject...thank you!
AFx2
BELIEVE ME TWO CENTS, she's interested.
My theory is that she was happy to like you from afar because you didn't present a threat or challenge to her. It was her way of having you but not having you (get it). Eventhough she might have seemed aloof, that's not her true intentions. So she was able to be more open and verbal with you (you know the theory of living in your head). But THEN when YOU reciprocated the favor, you shocked her into reality (so to speak).
Now that she knows you like her or have interest in her, she fills shy (clams up) and scared because now her thoughts are on "saying the right things", "wearing the right clothes", etc.....anything to please you and scared if she doesn't pleases you. Have you seem the movie "clueless" perfect example at the end of the movie "Cher" had a revelation that she liked her step brother and then didn't know how to act in front of him.
Well anyway back to reality, Men ESPECIALLY TAURUS MEN...🙂 have an calming aura about them. Everything seems right with you. You have a knack for feeling out someone or knowing them without info. (like looking through them so to speak). You're accurate most of the time. Strong but yet sweet and sincere with dealing with people. You're like a female in itself (the nuturing part) A natural when it comes to honesty, trust, lovemaking, oh my Oh, FUCK it you seem perfect. perfect mate, perfect friend, even perfect enemy if need be. So do you understand that she doesn't want to disappoint you. Not saying that you gave her that impression, but nevertheless that's what she's probably thinking. Women just want a man to understand and appreicate them and the tauruses I have encountered seems to fit the bill.
By the way, what is her sign, that can be helpful in figuring out her personality trait. How did you two meet? Who liked whom first? In the beginning what kind of signals did you give her? were you friends first before a special interest took effect? I KNOW I'M BEING NOSY BUT DAMN I'M HAPPY FOR YOU OPENING UP! WAY TO GO BROTHER! HOLLA BACK!
As for the bad/good man philosophy. I understand what you mean when you say if a man treats a woman bad, then she loves him, and if he treats her with respect she's nasty to him. Well TM, sometimes that's how women act, I can't defend my fellow women on that because I know some women who does that stuff. (not me though). I guess women WANT a challenge and if the man is sweet, sincere, all the works then they probably get bored. You can be a sincere man without being mushy, but that's what some women think, if you're nice then you're "soft". Which is quite crazy, because a man can be and SHOULD be both. I don't mean he has to go off and knock the s*** out of his lady, but be a rock for her when need be.
Oh my, I'm on my friend's computer and I've got to go. I hope this helped a little. Just giving my "two cents"
ML
My theory is that she was happy to like you from afar because you didn't present a threat or challenge to her. It was her way of having you but not having you (get it). Eventhough she might have seemed aloof, that's not her true intentions. So she was able to be more open and verbal with you (you know the theory of living in your head). But THEN when YOU reciprocated the favor, you shocked her into reality (so to speak).
Now that she knows you like her or have interest in her, she fills shy (clams up) and scared because now her thoughts are on "saying the right things", "wearing the right clothes", etc.....anything to please you and scared if she doesn't pleases you. Have you seem the movie "clueless" perfect example at the end of the movie "Cher" had a revelation that she liked her step brother and then didn't know how to act in front of him.
Well anyway back to reality, Men ESPECIALLY TAURUS MEN...🙂 have an calming aura about them. Everything seems right with you. You have a knack for feeling out someone or knowing them without info. (like looking through them so to speak). You're accurate most of the time. Strong but yet sweet and sincere with dealing with people. You're like a female in itself (the nuturing part) A natural when it comes to honesty, trust, lovemaking, oh my Oh, FUCK it you seem perfect. perfect mate, perfect friend, even perfect enemy if need be. So do you understand that she doesn't want to disappoint you. Not saying that you gave her that impression, but nevertheless that's what she's probably thinking. Women just want a man to understand and appreicate them and the tauruses I have encountered seems to fit the bill.
By the way, what is her sign, that can be helpful in figuring out her personality trait. How did you two meet? Who liked whom first? In the beginning what kind of signals did you give her? were you friends first before a special interest took effect? I KNOW I'M BEING NOSY BUT DAMN I'M HAPPY FOR YOU OPENING UP! WAY TO GO BROTHER! HOLLA BACK!
As for the bad/good man philosophy. I understand what you mean when you say if a man treats a woman bad, then she loves him, and if he treats her with respect she's nasty to him. Well TM, sometimes that's how women act, I can't defend my fellow women on that because I know some women who does that stuff. (not me though). I guess women WANT a challenge and if the man is sweet, sincere, all the works then they probably get bored. You can be a sincere man without being mushy, but that's what some women think, if you're nice then you're "soft". Which is quite crazy, because a man can be and SHOULD be both. I don't mean he has to go off and knock the s*** out of his lady, but be a rock for her when need be.
Oh my, I'm on my friend's computer and I've got to go. I hope this helped a little. Just giving my "two cents"
ML
Hey Ladies:
I kindof figured that "that is just the way some women are" would be a reason....and I guess that is why we will remain a mystery to each other until the end of time. FYI: this last female is an Aquarian, and it is indeed difficult to figure Aquarians out. Frankly, it is better for me to just be her close friend and to heck with the "off the wall" type of stuff that appears to be so Aquarian in nature. Just like I had mentioned to Aqua2, who seems to be a very cool Aquarian indeed....our types of love are just very different, and I am sure confusing to us. But I do know that Aquarians are the greatest of friends,
But probably the most eccentric intimately.(I just know that if I tried to figure out an Aquarian Female...it would be like finding the square root of 2 to the last decimal). BUT, My inquiry was originaly about women in general...and all I know is there is a reason for the saying...."Can't live with them, but can't live without them".
Keep those cards and letters comming.
Taurus Male
I kindof figured that "that is just the way some women are" would be a reason....and I guess that is why we will remain a mystery to each other until the end of time. FYI: this last female is an Aquarian, and it is indeed difficult to figure Aquarians out. Frankly, it is better for me to just be her close friend and to heck with the "off the wall" type of stuff that appears to be so Aquarian in nature. Just like I had mentioned to Aqua2, who seems to be a very cool Aquarian indeed....our types of love are just very different, and I am sure confusing to us. But I do know that Aquarians are the greatest of friends,
But probably the most eccentric intimately.(I just know that if I tried to figure out an Aquarian Female...it would be like finding the square root of 2 to the last decimal). BUT, My inquiry was originaly about women in general...and all I know is there is a reason for the saying...."Can't live with them, but can't live without them".
Keep those cards and letters comming.
Taurus Male
"Just as I have seen ladies with jerks who openly treat them poorly.....is this some sort of desire to be treated roughly or what? And the ladies I speak with about this say the same thing..."Oh, I don't want to be treated like that", but in reality, they are."
TM,
Interesting question. The only thing I can come up with is--
How do we learn what love is and from who do we take are lessons from? I have witnessed this in many different relationships, but never lived it. These questions are rather simple, if you think about it.
Women that like to be treated badly have been abused or witnessed it while young and they don't understand anything else. It all goes back to the same thing. It can be fixed, but you have to recoginize the symtoms before you treat the problem. It's like any learned behavior, you have to be able to admit that it is wrong and not healthy and then go about changing it. Some may never because they like it and they get something out of it. It may be so ingrained in their family history that this is what is perceived as 'normal'.
As far as good relationships being all silky smooth when you find the perfect mate,I must disagree. Relationships take work and they are never gonna be 100% problem free, especially in the beginning. Yes, it is wonderful and exciting when it is brand new, but there are power struggles and alot of issues that need to be worked out. Once you past that honeymoon faze, then you can start to get into a nice groove. By then you have learned each others habits, personality quirks, and their needs etc...see what I am saying?
Just some thoughts.
Love,
Wonderbox
PS TM, and I do think you're man enough to handle it!!!
TM,
Interesting question. The only thing I can come up with is--
How do we learn what love is and from who do we take are lessons from? I have witnessed this in many different relationships, but never lived it. These questions are rather simple, if you think about it.
Women that like to be treated badly have been abused or witnessed it while young and they don't understand anything else. It all goes back to the same thing. It can be fixed, but you have to recoginize the symtoms before you treat the problem. It's like any learned behavior, you have to be able to admit that it is wrong and not healthy and then go about changing it. Some may never because they like it and they get something out of it. It may be so ingrained in their family history that this is what is perceived as 'normal'.
As far as good relationships being all silky smooth when you find the perfect mate,I must disagree. Relationships take work and they are never gonna be 100% problem free, especially in the beginning. Yes, it is wonderful and exciting when it is brand new, but there are power struggles and alot of issues that need to be worked out. Once you past that honeymoon faze, then you can start to get into a nice groove. By then you have learned each others habits, personality quirks, and their needs etc...see what I am saying?
Just some thoughts.
Love,
Wonderbox
PS TM, and I do think you're man enough to handle it!!!
Oh, and I am a Libra/Scorpio woman! We should hit it of great!
"So do you understand that she doesn't want to disappoint you. Not saying that you gave her that impression, but nevertheless that's what she's probably thinking. Women just want a man to understand and appreicate them and the tauruses I have encountered seems to fit the bill."
I think this post says it all! ML, you know the facts!
Wonderbox
LS/C
I think this post says it all! ML, you know the facts!
Wonderbox
LS/C
Wonderbox:
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
Wonderbox:
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
Wonderbox:
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
My thanks for your knowing I can handle this...(Remember, I started it)
I have to say that where in the definition of what we conceive as "Love"
does treating someone poorly fit in?
I have difficulty seeing how someone actually gets off on that, but it happens all the time....Humans are a confusing race, indeed. Actually, I have always thought that trying to explain love, or the actions it produces
is one of the biggest mysteries, especialy from the male and female viewpoint of it. But the actions do tell the tale, regardless of the reasons
behind them. As for those signals, I still like to know from the "pros" about them.
Persistent Taurus Male
Well, I think you can call me a 'PRO' I have had only two relationships in 24 years. I must hsve done something right!
When I met my husband, I knew for some reason, that he and I were going to be married. It was just an instant attraction. It wasn't something you could manufactor. It was that we BOTH felt drawn to each other from the start. It just felt right! Very hard to describe and I don't think I will be able to explain it correctly.
I wish I could be of more assistance. You will know when it is right!!! The feelings will overcome you.
Good Luck
Wonderwoman!
LS/C
When I met my husband, I knew for some reason, that he and I were going to be married. It was just an instant attraction. It wasn't something you could manufactor. It was that we BOTH felt drawn to each other from the start. It just felt right! Very hard to describe and I don't think I will be able to explain it correctly.
I wish I could be of more assistance. You will know when it is right!!! The feelings will overcome you.
Good Luck
Wonderwoman!
LS/C
I would try talking to her in a private setting and telling her how what she means to you.
Try taking control of the situation. this woman would appreciate your honesty and initiaitve!!
Taking "control" of an Aquarian woman is a chore, no doubt...They certainly like to be in control, even if it hardly seems that way to us. I strive for relationships where both can control without stepping on each others toes, so to speak. But then again, some like to be controlled or to control...sounds odd, but that happens alot as well. Love to me is a very easy flowing sort of thing...if you have to work at it too much, something is amiss. You are very correct about the "feelings" of good matches, and I have been there, too....However, I am speaking of those all too many signals that go un-noticed, or misunderstood for one reason or another.
Ladies, your responses have been enlightening. Just one more step towards the understanding between the genders. We learn by doing.
Grateful Taurus Male
Ladies, your responses have been enlightening. Just one more step towards the understanding between the genders. We learn by doing.
Grateful Taurus Male
And ML, I can not imagine anyone standing you up, unless you just scared them to death. You are one strong female.
TM
TM
hello everybody.
TM :
Aqua 2 here,,,,maybe i'm not really answering this question.
mhhh it seems that you hit smth that in my mind has been itching for past 4 days.I'M kinda totaly lost anylizing his actions,trying to sort them out and make sure they are still the same and he still intrested.....lol maybe ML is right that we trying to be perfect, maybe because somewhere in my mind i'm affraid to lose him
About different kind of love--maybe you are right, but truly for me if eather one of us will bail out,,,,i doubt that i will want to be his friend, would be too hard.From my point of view, he looks too much behind my words or actions , but than i catching myself on doing the same thing- ofcourse in between we hiding, clameed up, analazing above mentioned words .Sometimes i want to tell him not to be so serious or too concerned,,,,,just relax , take it as it is cause there no other meanings.
And all sexuall setbacks from my opinion could be just from refusal to disscuss or communicate on that,,,one more thing: this all affection thing,,,,once in a while, esp when MR Taurus so busy,,,,,i would appreciate some kind of reassurance;;;;cause after that i have my inner guard in a search mode and it will take time to "analize" situation , meanwhile i'll be cold and probobly he'll be puzzled why do i bugging? In my case there spicial very painfull situation with daily communication or just plain phone calls,,,,,i u nderstand that he is very busy person,maybe sometimes he just want to shut his phone off in order to get some quiet times, but honey,,,,is it so problematic to call me once a day for a 1 min or once in two days—? i used to call every day,,,,,but finally i'm getting tired of listening to voicemailor about second line , or whatever-----you know it makes me feel been onhold in between out relationship....NOW he is "lost" why i'm not calling or not really communicating?
You know this all actions in a relationship....the way how i see partly depends on baggage from privious relat,your view on female& male relat,the way how your psycology been build up from childhood, relationship bettween your parents. Believe me i never met a girl who will want to be treated bad,,,indeed they act like that?
just because there actions been misreaded and also thought of "loosing" somebody you love plays it part too.
i hope it sound more or less understandable,,,,I have few more things to say,,,,,but my mind is layzy right now,cause i'll need to try to translate it to english- besides in NY now is 4 at night, would be nice to catch some good night sleep,,,,,i'll post them o n tommorow...
by-bye
Aqua 2
TM :
Aqua 2 here,,,,maybe i'm not really answering this question.
mhhh it seems that you hit smth that in my mind has been itching for past 4 days.I'M kinda totaly lost anylizing his actions,trying to sort them out and make sure they are still the same and he still intrested.....lol maybe ML is right that we trying to be perfect, maybe because somewhere in my mind i'm affraid to lose him
About different kind of love--maybe you are right, but truly for me if eather one of us will bail out,,,,i doubt that i will want to be his friend, would be too hard.From my point of view, he looks too much behind my words or actions , but than i catching myself on doing the same thing- ofcourse in between we hiding, clameed up, analazing above mentioned words .Sometimes i want to tell him not to be so serious or too concerned,,,,,just relax , take it as it is cause there no other meanings.
And all sexuall setbacks from my opinion could be just from refusal to disscuss or communicate on that,,,one more thing: this all affection thing,,,,once in a while, esp when MR Taurus so busy,,,,,i would appreciate some kind of reassurance;;;;cause after that i have my inner guard in a search mode and it will take time to "analize" situation , meanwhile i'll be cold and probobly he'll be puzzled why do i bugging? In my case there spicial very painfull situation with daily communication or just plain phone calls,,,,,i u nderstand that he is very busy person,maybe sometimes he just want to shut his phone off in order to get some quiet times, but honey,,,,is it so problematic to call me once a day for a 1 min or once in two days—? i used to call every day,,,,,but finally i'm getting tired of listening to voicemailor about second line , or whatever-----you know it makes me feel been onhold in between out relationship....NOW he is "lost" why i'm not calling or not really communicating?
You know this all actions in a relationship....the way how i see partly depends on baggage from privious relat,your view on female& male relat,the way how your psycology been build up from childhood, relationship bettween your parents. Believe me i never met a girl who will want to be treated bad,,,indeed they act like that?
just because there actions been misreaded and also thought of "loosing" somebody you love plays it part too.
i hope it sound more or less understandable,,,,I have few more things to say,,,,,but my mind is layzy right now,cause i'll need to try to translate it to english- besides in NY now is 4 at night, would be nice to catch some good night sleep,,,,,i'll post them o n tommorow...
by-bye
Aqua 2
OH i forgot sometimes it remind me of a teacher who is dancing tango with his student and student, she tries really hard not to step on his toes,,,,,atleast that a copy of my relationship,,,cause as Taurus he is more determined,bullish ans stuborn sometimes
Hi Aqua,
You and I must be dueling insomniacs! I always love to read your posts. They are always so truthful and tell the story for others as well. We may all be different, but there is more in common as far as relating and relationships than I could have ever imagined!!!
I don't understand how someone can love somebody but yet not let them know it. If I love/care for someone, I want to know everyday that they are safe and nothing has happened to them!!! I need to hear their voice, touch them and share a part of their day with them if only for a minute, or I worry and start thinking of the worst. When someone shuts me out because they want 'space', then that says to me they don't care about my feelings! I wonder if people should just stay single and not bother trying to couple up. Seems like to much selfishness and not enough concern and understanding for one another.
I wake up everyday thinking of the ones I love and leave messages when ever I can to reassure them that I am here and I am thinking of them. I am not able to be with them because of some distance between us. There are plenty of ways to stay in touch, even if you leave an "I love you" on a damn beeper is better than nothing!!! Personally speaking, I need to find a way to be/ get closer to them or I will just forget the whole situation because living in a guessing game is not cutting it, not for me. Why get sucked into a riptide, I have done that before and I am never going there again. If you want someone then let them in! Open your heart and show them you care about them. Words mean little, unless you back them up!!!
Take care and
Be careful out there!
LS/C
You and I must be dueling insomniacs! I always love to read your posts. They are always so truthful and tell the story for others as well. We may all be different, but there is more in common as far as relating and relationships than I could have ever imagined!!!
I don't understand how someone can love somebody but yet not let them know it. If I love/care for someone, I want to know everyday that they are safe and nothing has happened to them!!! I need to hear their voice, touch them and share a part of their day with them if only for a minute, or I worry and start thinking of the worst. When someone shuts me out because they want 'space', then that says to me they don't care about my feelings! I wonder if people should just stay single and not bother trying to couple up. Seems like to much selfishness and not enough concern and understanding for one another.
I wake up everyday thinking of the ones I love and leave messages when ever I can to reassure them that I am here and I am thinking of them. I am not able to be with them because of some distance between us. There are plenty of ways to stay in touch, even if you leave an "I love you" on a damn beeper is better than nothing!!! Personally speaking, I need to find a way to be/ get closer to them or I will just forget the whole situation because living in a guessing game is not cutting it, not for me. Why get sucked into a riptide, I have done that before and I am never going there again. If you want someone then let them in! Open your heart and show them you care about them. Words mean little, unless you back them up!!!
Take care and
Be careful out there!
LS/C
Wow I feel like that last one discribes me down to a tee.Is it a Cancerian point of veiw? I act exactly the same way. The trouble is not everyone on the recieving end understands this and instead think we are a bit too over the top.When I love I love big time and do the same thing ,leave loving messages, hug them, squeeze them to death.If they are late I think something terrible has happened to them.I want to know where they are so that I know they are safe and can come to no harm.Thats my way of showing how much I love them and to me I can't be much clearer but instead my actions are sometimes taken as, I don't trust the person or I'm smothering the person.
Luckly my Tauras man loves the smothering, the other bit can be a bit of a problem though.
Cancerian lady
Luckly my Tauras man loves the smothering, the other bit can be a bit of a problem though.
Cancerian lady
Hi Cancer Lady,
I am a Mars in Cancer woman, so maybe that is why I to carry those same traits! I never considered people feeling I was being distrustful when all I was doing was loving them. I guess I will start thinking more about that and try not to be so smothering, unless I can find someone who wants that kind of love and attention?
Take Care of that Taurus he sounds like a lover!
LS/C
I am a Mars in Cancer woman, so maybe that is why I to carry those same traits! I never considered people feeling I was being distrustful when all I was doing was loving them. I guess I will start thinking more about that and try not to be so smothering, unless I can find someone who wants that kind of love and attention?
Take Care of that Taurus he sounds like a lover!
LS/C
I can relate to some of this as well. I have a Taurus Male friend; we recently connected with each other after many years of loosing touch (we were never together though -- just friends);and he lives in another state. But we've been communicating every day -- email, phone, etc. One day he suggested we should take a break; Things were getting intense between us and he stated a strong interest in me; wanted to know if I had feelings for him too; if I thought he was special, etc; when I stated I do, this is when his decision for the breakup began. What kind of signal was that— He trusts me; I'm special says he....and so on....you get my point. We spoke of seeing each other again too.
But now nothing; a dissapearing act. And although he's in the middle of a personal issues in his life, (and I've been more than patient and understanding), I do have my frustrating and impatient days -- as I write this right now. Sometimes I still send emails -- because I feel he'd like to hear from me to know that I'm still here for him, but I never get a reply; ok, I don't ask for one but come on; how many of those "signal" emails shall I send. So do men just want to hear that there's someone special out there waiting for them?? Is it just good for their ego?? It's been numerous months since we've spoken and I wonder if he's coming back into my life. And now I hesitate in sending email -- or calling -- for that "Fear of rejection".
Mr. Taurus Male stated -- "let us Taurus Males know your signals". And if we do let you know, is this what we get— If we DO give our signals, do you really want them? Are you not sure what to do with them after we give them? I'm a very strong and direct person and do not play games. So when I send a so called signal, I am serious about that person.
But now I'm frustrated and tired of making all the effort. Not sure what to do.
AF(Sidekick)
But now nothing; a dissapearing act. And although he's in the middle of a personal issues in his life, (and I've been more than patient and understanding), I do have my frustrating and impatient days -- as I write this right now. Sometimes I still send emails -- because I feel he'd like to hear from me to know that I'm still here for him, but I never get a reply; ok, I don't ask for one but come on; how many of those "signal" emails shall I send. So do men just want to hear that there's someone special out there waiting for them?? Is it just good for their ego?? It's been numerous months since we've spoken and I wonder if he's coming back into my life. And now I hesitate in sending email -- or calling -- for that "Fear of rejection".
Mr. Taurus Male stated -- "let us Taurus Males know your signals". And if we do let you know, is this what we get— If we DO give our signals, do you really want them? Are you not sure what to do with them after we give them? I'm a very strong and direct person and do not play games. So when I send a so called signal, I am serious about that person.
But now I'm frustrated and tired of making all the effort. Not sure what to do.
AF(Sidekick)
Forgot to say....Have a great long weekend everyone.
AF(sidekick)
AF(sidekick)
I just returned to the post from yesterday.
Thanks Wonderbox on your comments, just trying to be true and honest. Everyone has great insight and is contributing positive feedback on this subject, thanks to TM.
Hey PERSISTENT Taurus Male (two cents my luv), my gratitude to you on your comment. You are very perceptive, I like that. I totally agree with you regarding "I strive for relationships where both can control without stepping on each others toes". You are a REAL MAN TM, and never forget it (I'm sure you won't). The reason I say this is because a real man could only have the intellect to perceive a relationship as 50/50, give and take, etc. which is a partnership based on trust, love, loyalty, honestly, (you know). A man that is strong enough mentally, emotionally and physically to NOT be intimidated by a woman's worth and the abilities that she may possess. Yeah Hun I must have scared the s*** out of him.....LOL you know how us Tauruses are. 🙂 that's a story all in itself.
As for your Aquarian, oh my I know what you mean. While growing up around the same neighborhood, I knew a Aquarian male. He was a nice person I will admit, he loved me, asked me to marry him even (I wasn't serious about him, I guess he was), BUT they do love in a different way. He seemed to follow the crowd, never had his own mind, always wanted approval and acceptance, and a serious flirt. That was basically our downfall. I'm more grounded and he was soooooo flighty. In my presence he was quiet, sweet, you know. But around a crowd or our peers, he became a clown, which I found disturbing. He flirted all the time with other females, then would say he likes me. It was a constant battle with himself. (you know the song by PINK "don't let me get me" LOL) like that! Some crazy s***.
I've always been a strong person for myself and everyone around me. I don't know if it's my zodiac sign, upbringing, or whatever. But I know that no one can take care of you but you. Shit, I have to I live in New York 🙂 So I find myself having zero tolerance for certain things when it comes to relationships and finding a true mate. I'm not attracted to the fancy cars with rims, stacks full of money, etc. all that material stuff. I can achieve that on my own in due time. I want a man to come to the table and put his cards down, have something to offer emotionally and mentally other than a car, fancy job, bank roll. you get it. I don't know if you all know but SOME women (I said some) in my surroundings thrive on that shit, the thuglife relationship of pleasure and pain, which is sad and pathetic. They don't have the slightest inkling of self-sufficiency.
I can go on, but I'll leave you all with this for now love is never easy it takes work and effort. As for signals, it's a way of conveying information to incite action in someone. I wish I had the answers to ALL SIGNALS we give off to one another. I'm at a loss, it's easier said than done when we say to just TALK to them or ASK them. When you're in the moment with that person, your mind doesn't necessarily go according to what your first intentions were. You know the thing where you "rehearse" what you want then when it comes time to you forget or fumble 🙂 Humans man, what can you do!
ML
Thanks Wonderbox on your comments, just trying to be true and honest. Everyone has great insight and is contributing positive feedback on this subject, thanks to TM.
Hey PERSISTENT Taurus Male (two cents my luv), my gratitude to you on your comment. You are very perceptive, I like that. I totally agree with you regarding "I strive for relationships where both can control without stepping on each others toes". You are a REAL MAN TM, and never forget it (I'm sure you won't). The reason I say this is because a real man could only have the intellect to perceive a relationship as 50/50, give and take, etc. which is a partnership based on trust, love, loyalty, honestly, (you know). A man that is strong enough mentally, emotionally and physically to NOT be intimidated by a woman's worth and the abilities that she may possess. Yeah Hun I must have scared the s*** out of him.....LOL you know how us Tauruses are. 🙂 that's a story all in itself.
As for your Aquarian, oh my I know what you mean. While growing up around the same neighborhood, I knew a Aquarian male. He was a nice person I will admit, he loved me, asked me to marry him even (I wasn't serious about him, I guess he was), BUT they do love in a different way. He seemed to follow the crowd, never had his own mind, always wanted approval and acceptance, and a serious flirt. That was basically our downfall. I'm more grounded and he was soooooo flighty. In my presence he was quiet, sweet, you know. But around a crowd or our peers, he became a clown, which I found disturbing. He flirted all the time with other females, then would say he likes me. It was a constant battle with himself. (you know the song by PINK "don't let me get me" LOL) like that! Some crazy s***.
I've always been a strong person for myself and everyone around me. I don't know if it's my zodiac sign, upbringing, or whatever. But I know that no one can take care of you but you. Shit, I have to I live in New York 🙂 So I find myself having zero tolerance for certain things when it comes to relationships and finding a true mate. I'm not attracted to the fancy cars with rims, stacks full of money, etc. all that material stuff. I can achieve that on my own in due time. I want a man to come to the table and put his cards down, have something to offer emotionally and mentally other than a car, fancy job, bank roll. you get it. I don't know if you all know but SOME women (I said some) in my surroundings thrive on that shit, the thuglife relationship of pleasure and pain, which is sad and pathetic. They don't have the slightest inkling of self-sufficiency.
I can go on, but I'll leave you all with this for now love is never easy it takes work and effort. As for signals, it's a way of conveying information to incite action in someone. I wish I had the answers to ALL SIGNALS we give off to one another. I'm at a loss, it's easier said than done when we say to just TALK to them or ASK them. When you're in the moment with that person, your mind doesn't necessarily go according to what your first intentions were. You know the thing where you "rehearse" what you want then when it comes time to you forget or fumble 🙂 Humans man, what can you do!
ML
Oh Sidekick,
I understand your plight. Are you sure you're not a taurus?! LOL. Anyway, it seems that we're going down the same path of love. My Taurus friend is MIA also and I'm the POW (or love). His "signals" are ridiculous. We use to work together, we were friends. He had an interest in me from the start without telling me. I didn't know because I'm unassuming and slow to catch on so I didn't see it. Co-workers and fellow friends would tell me that he liked me. My reply would be "oh he's my friend, we're pals, what are you talking about" etc.....Mainly because I didn't see him THAT way at the time and plus I was in a Cancer relationship (second go around for me and him).
As I look back, he did give me hints, signals. He would compliment me all the time. I figured he just did it because we were friends. He knew my schedule you know, my lunch, what I liked to eat, my habits, etc..
To make a long story short. He got a promotion and had to relocate just to another borough (I'm in NY). Well anyway the thought of him leaving and me not being able to see him everyday struck a chord in me. All of a sudden (I mean all of a sudden) I developed these feelings for him. I didn't want him to go, I missed him, this that and the other. So when I let him know he CLAMMED UP ON ME. We remain "GREAT FRIENDS" and then I CLAMMED UP ON HIM where at one time I could discuss anything and everything to him. I became shy and he was already shy so two shy people don't mix. we can't seem to get to the second point.
Now he's going through "things" and we keep in touch here and there. He'll disappear for months and then return. But when we do get together, it's like time hasn't past. We share a great deal with each other, go places, enjoy our company together.
I remember the first time we went out after we got back to his home he wanted me to meet his family. It was 2:00 in the morning. LOL. He was just that hyped. Of course I told him no and that I had plenty of time to meet them, which I did at a later date and more decent hour. LOL
His family adores me, they seemed to know me right from the start. Which led me to believe that I was subject of convo for a long time prior to me meeting them. So I know he cares, he just has to get himself straight and when he does all hell will break lose. LOL
I hope the best for you to with your TM sidekick. You are so right when you asked those questions. I am with you.
ML
I understand your plight. Are you sure you're not a taurus?! LOL. Anyway, it seems that we're going down the same path of love. My Taurus friend is MIA also and I'm the POW (or love). His "signals" are ridiculous. We use to work together, we were friends. He had an interest in me from the start without telling me. I didn't know because I'm unassuming and slow to catch on so I didn't see it. Co-workers and fellow friends would tell me that he liked me. My reply would be "oh he's my friend, we're pals, what are you talking about" etc.....Mainly because I didn't see him THAT way at the time and plus I was in a Cancer relationship (second go around for me and him).
As I look back, he did give me hints, signals. He would compliment me all the time. I figured he just did it because we were friends. He knew my schedule you know, my lunch, what I liked to eat, my habits, etc..
To make a long story short. He got a promotion and had to relocate just to another borough (I'm in NY). Well anyway the thought of him leaving and me not being able to see him everyday struck a chord in me. All of a sudden (I mean all of a sudden) I developed these feelings for him. I didn't want him to go, I missed him, this that and the other. So when I let him know he CLAMMED UP ON ME. We remain "GREAT FRIENDS" and then I CLAMMED UP ON HIM where at one time I could discuss anything and everything to him. I became shy and he was already shy so two shy people don't mix. we can't seem to get to the second point.
Now he's going through "things" and we keep in touch here and there. He'll disappear for months and then return. But when we do get together, it's like time hasn't past. We share a great deal with each other, go places, enjoy our company together.
I remember the first time we went out after we got back to his home he wanted me to meet his family. It was 2:00 in the morning. LOL. He was just that hyped. Of course I told him no and that I had plenty of time to meet them, which I did at a later date and more decent hour. LOL
His family adores me, they seemed to know me right from the start. Which led me to believe that I was subject of convo for a long time prior to me meeting them. So I know he cares, he just has to get himself straight and when he does all hell will break lose. LOL
I hope the best for you to with your TM sidekick. You are so right when you asked those questions. I am with you.
ML
ML:
I understand what you mean,,,,,,,and i'm a very strong person ,i'll achieve all that "shiny things" by my own.Your description of relationship fits my vision as a glove------that is what i need and i'm looking for.Thou what i have somewhere in a middle.Here it is all the way around:i'm more grounded, responsible,"earthy"....he is secretrive, preserved,not easily trusting. Maybe we missread each others signals, maybe i show smth i'm didn;t meant to show....
I never felt this way,,,and i did compromise a lot, cause maybe he didn't grow to the level to share it at 50/50.
Also i'm strong and i still can compromise, hopefully i'll brake that "trust" issue and etc down...i'll move it to 50/50;and on the other hand IF NOT?
I'm not gonna die,but i'll be very hurt.
That's why now when we faced it deep down insided i'm scared will we win it??Or maybe i need to silently walk away right now, but i never felt so right been close with somebody,,,,,no sexually
I understand what you mean,,,,,,,and i'm a very strong person ,i'll achieve all that "shiny things" by my own.Your description of relationship fits my vision as a glove------that is what i need and i'm looking for.Thou what i have somewhere in a middle.Here it is all the way around:i'm more grounded, responsible,"earthy"....he is secretrive, preserved,not easily trusting. Maybe we missread each others signals, maybe i show smth i'm didn;t meant to show....
I never felt this way,,,and i did compromise a lot, cause maybe he didn't grow to the level to share it at 50/50.
Also i'm strong and i still can compromise, hopefully i'll brake that "trust" issue and etc down...i'll move it to 50/50;and on the other hand IF NOT?
I'm not gonna die,but i'll be very hurt.
That's why now when we faced it deep down insided i'm scared will we win it??Or maybe i need to silently walk away right now, but i never felt so right been close with somebody,,,,,no sexually
ML:
We are more alike than I dare to admit.
You hit it right on the head about the Aquarian type of love.
And to all of you ladies that have Taurean Male "problems", just note that
Taureans are going through a transition, it seems. And I think it effects how they relate emotionally. Thus, crossed "signals".
But if it causes too much distress in your life, warn them (nicely), and move away, if you must. But, by the "sounds" of things from this board....those Tauruses would lose much. But Hell, sometimes that happens.
I know sidekick's Taurus would be a big looser.
(My Hi to you, sidekick).
Thanks for your comments ML (who does not care about nice cars and stuff...yeah right!!) You make me want to go out and get me a "Manhandler TV dinner".
Taurus Male
We are more alike than I dare to admit.
You hit it right on the head about the Aquarian type of love.
And to all of you ladies that have Taurean Male "problems", just note that
Taureans are going through a transition, it seems. And I think it effects how they relate emotionally. Thus, crossed "signals".
But if it causes too much distress in your life, warn them (nicely), and move away, if you must. But, by the "sounds" of things from this board....those Tauruses would lose much. But Hell, sometimes that happens.
I know sidekick's Taurus would be a big looser.
(My Hi to you, sidekick).
Thanks for your comments ML (who does not care about nice cars and stuff...yeah right!!) You make me want to go out and get me a "Manhandler TV dinner".
Taurus Male
That's funny ML: Wonder if NY women are just strong in general. I live in NY too. And like yourself, I've had to be strong for myself -- and everyone around me as well. But I need to learn a bit more patience when it comes to understanding others that are not as strong. And I definitely have no tolerance for the ignorant and pretentious men that run around this town -- advertising themselves -- and flaunting their money -- thinking it's the only way to a women's heart. Well not mine, that's for damn sure.
And although men find me to be very strong, honest and direct, some are intimidated by that. But I don't worry about it because I know that I will find my true love; one who will love and appreciate me for who I am. I think we all want someone to add to our lives -- not take over it.
Sometimes, things don't appear to run smooth when we are in the moment trying to communicate. Words may get muddled. We complicate things more -- worrying, trying to rehearse. But hell, who hasen't tried to rehearse in advance -- wanting to say the perfect thing to that person? It's just natural.
But just remember -- as Shakespeare said "The course of true love never did run smooth". How true.
Wish I had more answers too.
AF(Sidekick)
And although men find me to be very strong, honest and direct, some are intimidated by that. But I don't worry about it because I know that I will find my true love; one who will love and appreciate me for who I am. I think we all want someone to add to our lives -- not take over it.
Sometimes, things don't appear to run smooth when we are in the moment trying to communicate. Words may get muddled. We complicate things more -- worrying, trying to rehearse. But hell, who hasen't tried to rehearse in advance -- wanting to say the perfect thing to that person? It's just natural.
But just remember -- as Shakespeare said "The course of true love never did run smooth". How true.
Wish I had more answers too.
AF(Sidekick)
Thank you Taurus Male 🙂 and hello to you too.
I will keep that in mind about the Taurus transition. In my heart, I know mine is going through that right now. And I've been struggling with the idea to warn him nicely in an email. But so far -- me a woman of many words -- is at a loss for words to do this; probably for fear of his response to me. But I'll get your opinion on this one next week.
Well, I'm off for a long weekend. Have a great one!
AF(Sidekick)
I will keep that in mind about the Taurus transition. In my heart, I know mine is going through that right now. And I've been struggling with the idea to warn him nicely in an email. But so far -- me a woman of many words -- is at a loss for words to do this; probably for fear of his response to me. But I'll get your opinion on this one next week.
Well, I'm off for a long weekend. Have a great one!
AF(Sidekick)
Thanks guys, when I'm really devoted to something (cause, topic, relationship)there's no stopping me.
"Manhandler TV dinner" good one TM. Only the steak for you though. What do you mean "dare to admit", am I scaring you too......LOL! Yeah, you go get that meal. I already knew, that's why I was at your heels so. I like nice cars, etc. who doesn't, (WHO GAVE ME THE MONEY LADY HANDLE AFTER ALL 🙂) but that shouldn't be the basis of wanting to be with that person, that's all.
Way to go Aqua! you be strong, that's what we all can learn at times. Hey what doesn't kill us makes us stronger!
Luv to you all, and have a happy Labor Day! It's going to rain here.
Taurus Female (ML)
"Manhandler TV dinner" good one TM. Only the steak for you though. What do you mean "dare to admit", am I scaring you too......LOL! Yeah, you go get that meal. I already knew, that's why I was at your heels so. I like nice cars, etc. who doesn't, (WHO GAVE ME THE MONEY LADY HANDLE AFTER ALL 🙂) but that shouldn't be the basis of wanting to be with that person, that's all.
Way to go Aqua! you be strong, that's what we all can learn at times. Hey what doesn't kill us makes us stronger!
Luv to you all, and have a happy Labor Day! It's going to rain here.
Taurus Female (ML)
SIDEKICK:
My sentiments exactly regarding us being strong in general and NY men or any men for that matter. That's what they sometimes seem to think about us. But you know, it's some women fault for allowing them to think that way, which gives us a bad name. I also have a lack of patience for women who are not as sound as myself. I need tolerance as well. I?m trying girl but are we connected or what!
ML
My sentiments exactly regarding us being strong in general and NY men or any men for that matter. That's what they sometimes seem to think about us. But you know, it's some women fault for allowing them to think that way, which gives us a bad name. I also have a lack of patience for women who are not as sound as myself. I need tolerance as well. I?m trying girl but are we connected or what!
ML
ML:
Wasn't being mean to you at all....I Don't come across many woman with iron clad wills like yours with such big hearts. I think living in NY can make people hard core about certain things....here is small town Texas, we can go a little slower without all of the hubbub, if ya know what I mean.
YOU A REAL WOMAN, FOR SURE. Don't fear you, but have a healthy respect for you. You would be a great catch, but they better get a bigger boat....
LOL. Have a pleasant weekend, everyone.
Taurus Male
Wasn't being mean to you at all....I Don't come across many woman with iron clad wills like yours with such big hearts. I think living in NY can make people hard core about certain things....here is small town Texas, we can go a little slower without all of the hubbub, if ya know what I mean.
YOU A REAL WOMAN, FOR SURE. Don't fear you, but have a healthy respect for you. You would be a great catch, but they better get a bigger boat....
LOL. Have a pleasant weekend, everyone.
Taurus Male
We'll if I am interested in a guy. I usually play hard to get. -Nikki-
"The stars at night are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas"......LOL
I know you wasn't being mean, I was playing with you with the above comment. Thank you
ML
I know you wasn't being mean, I was playing with you with the above comment. Thank you
ML
Hey ML you sound very sweet and romantic. Love -Nikki-
Thanks Nikki. I try to be.
Always remember you have to love yourself first before anyone else can.
Money Lady
Always remember you have to love yourself first before anyone else can.
Money Lady
Thanks Nikki. I try to be.
Always remember you have to love yourself first before anyone else can.
Money Lady
Always remember you have to love yourself first before anyone else can.
Money Lady
Taurus Male,
I have been reluctant to post on this topic, not because I don't want to help you, and not because I don't have anything to say, but because I feel kind of stupid and out of my league giving you MY 2 cents (ha ha) on this subject, being that I'm only 20. I fear that you would read what I have to say with arched eyebrow and half-smirk, thinking, "what business does a 20 year old girl have speaking about this issue, and what the hell could she possibly teach ME?"
LOL.
-Heather (phoenix_rising)
I have been reluctant to post on this topic, not because I don't want to help you, and not because I don't have anything to say, but because I feel kind of stupid and out of my league giving you MY 2 cents (ha ha) on this subject, being that I'm only 20. I fear that you would read what I have to say with arched eyebrow and half-smirk, thinking, "what business does a 20 year old girl have speaking about this issue, and what the hell could she possibly teach ME?"
LOL.
-Heather (phoenix_rising)
Sweet Heather:
Give yourself more credit, will ya?
Men and women "misread" each other all the time, it seems. You have shown you are quite a woman at 20, so any "woman"
viewpoint by you would always be of help. Women have always been a mystery to us, but that does not mean we love them any less. I guess our faith in love overrides all those little things you woman do that just seem to throw us off sometimes. I knew when I asked the question (to finally appease ML), that it would bring some interesting feedback.
But I think that it is just a matter of knowing there is a common ground between men and women, and I just wish that everyone could just find it more often.
Always enjoy seeing your posts, Heather.
Taurus Male
Give yourself more credit, will ya?
Men and women "misread" each other all the time, it seems. You have shown you are quite a woman at 20, so any "woman"
viewpoint by you would always be of help. Women have always been a mystery to us, but that does not mean we love them any less. I guess our faith in love overrides all those little things you woman do that just seem to throw us off sometimes. I knew when I asked the question (to finally appease ML), that it would bring some interesting feedback.
But I think that it is just a matter of knowing there is a common ground between men and women, and I just wish that everyone could just find it more often.
Always enjoy seeing your posts, Heather.
Taurus Male
Well Taurus Male (my favorite one btw),
I feel better about posting now! : )
Okay. My signals are many, and believe it or not I do try to send as few as possible (meaning I try to be as clear as possible) because I realize that while it would suit ME fine to hardly speak at all and rather communicate only with eye contact or different smiles/facial expressions with the opposite sex, I fully realize that men do not really appreciate or understand such subtlety, and therefore I exert rigid control over myself when tempted to be covert about my feelings. Now, as hard as I try to not confuse the male of the species, I am completely aware that I do anyway from time to time. How do I know? I've been flat-out told. lol. With very perceptive males (and I sense you are probably one of them), it is easier, but ninety-five percent of the time, I try to say what I mean and mean what I say.
One of the ways that I communicate interest in a guy, before I've had a chance to converse with him or actually "meet" him, is that I smile and lock eyes with him. I am probably not unlike most women in that method, but I am unlike some in the sense that I have never, and will never, boldly approach a guy and say, "I find you very attractive, so here is my number" (or any similar variation on that scenario). I just am too shy for that, and also, it would be projecting to said male a completely false image of myself, because while I am no doormat at all, or a weakling, I am not what I would consider an "assertive" person (unless attacked in some way). I want the guy, if anything is to come of the two of us, to see me clearly for who I am, and one of my personality traits is being reserved and rather shy. So, at the point when I have made what I consider to be MY move by locking eyes with him and smiling (but not too goofily, lol), he may choose to approach me or not, and since I am attracted to guys with "moxie", this seems to work pretty well for me. The only problem is when the male I'm checking out smiles back but is obviously just as shy as I am. In that case, I back off, because (and this may seem a little hard-line, I know) I figure if he's THAT shy, and not aggressive enough to approach me, then he is not likely to be my type.
My typical method I've just described has backfired, for instance last week I was trying to be nice by smiling at the guy who was filling up my bf's gas tank. The foul-mouthed, toothless and VERY DRUNK attendant (lovely, no?) comes up to the passenger side window and oh so smoothly compliments me on my "pretty red hair". I don't have red hair, I have blonde hair. I said, "Thank you" and tried to turn away, but he just kept talking. Luckily (or, not luckily?) my bf had gotten out of the car and was inside the minute market part of the station, far from this whole disturbing/annoying exchange. The guy would NOT stop talking. "I like redheads...blah blah blah". So, me trying to be nice and polite turned out to be a bad situation because Mr Drunk Freak interpreted it as me being enticed by him. I'm sure the other ladies can back me up on this, I'm sure they've all experienced similar situations.
Anyway, I kind of went off on a tangent there (lol), but there is a peek into the signals I personally use when I'm interested in a guy.
I would love to answer any more questions if you have them; I think this is a great topic for BOTH sexes actually, as it gives us women a chance to see how we confuse you (so as to hopefully improve our communication techniques), as well as giving you a head's up as to what we're thinking.
Great topic!
-Heather
I feel better about posting now! : )
Okay. My signals are many, and believe it or not I do try to send as few as possible (meaning I try to be as clear as possible) because I realize that while it would suit ME fine to hardly speak at all and rather communicate only with eye contact or different smiles/facial expressions with the opposite sex, I fully realize that men do not really appreciate or understand such subtlety, and therefore I exert rigid control over myself when tempted to be covert about my feelings. Now, as hard as I try to not confuse the male of the species, I am completely aware that I do anyway from time to time. How do I know? I've been flat-out told. lol. With very perceptive males (and I sense you are probably one of them), it is easier, but ninety-five percent of the time, I try to say what I mean and mean what I say.
One of the ways that I communicate interest in a guy, before I've had a chance to converse with him or actually "meet" him, is that I smile and lock eyes with him. I am probably not unlike most women in that method, but I am unlike some in the sense that I have never, and will never, boldly approach a guy and say, "I find you very attractive, so here is my number" (or any similar variation on that scenario). I just am too shy for that, and also, it would be projecting to said male a completely false image of myself, because while I am no doormat at all, or a weakling, I am not what I would consider an "assertive" person (unless attacked in some way). I want the guy, if anything is to come of the two of us, to see me clearly for who I am, and one of my personality traits is being reserved and rather shy. So, at the point when I have made what I consider to be MY move by locking eyes with him and smiling (but not too goofily, lol), he may choose to approach me or not, and since I am attracted to guys with "moxie", this seems to work pretty well for me. The only problem is when the male I'm checking out smiles back but is obviously just as shy as I am. In that case, I back off, because (and this may seem a little hard-line, I know) I figure if he's THAT shy, and not aggressive enough to approach me, then he is not likely to be my type.
My typical method I've just described has backfired, for instance last week I was trying to be nice by smiling at the guy who was filling up my bf's gas tank. The foul-mouthed, toothless and VERY DRUNK attendant (lovely, no?) comes up to the passenger side window and oh so smoothly compliments me on my "pretty red hair". I don't have red hair, I have blonde hair. I said, "Thank you" and tried to turn away, but he just kept talking. Luckily (or, not luckily?) my bf had gotten out of the car and was inside the minute market part of the station, far from this whole disturbing/annoying exchange. The guy would NOT stop talking. "I like redheads...blah blah blah". So, me trying to be nice and polite turned out to be a bad situation because Mr Drunk Freak interpreted it as me being enticed by him. I'm sure the other ladies can back me up on this, I'm sure they've all experienced similar situations.
Anyway, I kind of went off on a tangent there (lol), but there is a peek into the signals I personally use when I'm interested in a guy.
I would love to answer any more questions if you have them; I think this is a great topic for BOTH sexes actually, as it gives us women a chance to see how we confuse you (so as to hopefully improve our communication techniques), as well as giving you a head's up as to what we're thinking.
Great topic!
-Heather
P.S.
If you're wondering about the gas station dealy, I live in Oregon and we don't pump our own gas here. lol. Just in case that was confusing to anyone who doesn't live here! : )
If you're wondering about the gas station dealy, I live in Oregon and we don't pump our own gas here. lol. Just in case that was confusing to anyone who doesn't live here! : )
Heather:
Thanks for clearing up the gas thing.(?)
(You are cute)
Who says you can not teach an older dog anything...I knew you could, and quite well...(Wish I was 20 again, I would sure go after your signals, to be sure)
But one thing still bothers us males.
How can one tell the difference between innocent flirting signals and serious
flirting signals. You know what I mean?
Many women like to flirt, just to see if they still got it, while others are "on the prowl" for something heavier. Some just turn on the charms to "get something", while others try to show a genuine interest. But, to us, it all seems like the same game. So, how do you think we are to know which is which?
Believe me, I have been around long enough to have experience many, but never knew which was which until it was
"too late" sort to speak. It is easy enough to put a "fake" to the test by just calling their bluff, but sometimes it may scare one off who is really sincere, ya know what I mean?
And this "playing hard to get" business
really becomes a chore sometimes...like we are supposed to climb some kindof moutain to win her love....sheeeeesh, what is that all about?
I don't think we are so much blind to the eye contact, and the subtle touching and stuff, but it is the motivation that throws us off.
How are we to "sense" those true motives?
This is getting deep, now, I think...
Taurus Male
Thanks for clearing up the gas thing.(?)
(You are cute)
Who says you can not teach an older dog anything...I knew you could, and quite well...(Wish I was 20 again, I would sure go after your signals, to be sure)
But one thing still bothers us males.
How can one tell the difference between innocent flirting signals and serious
flirting signals. You know what I mean?
Many women like to flirt, just to see if they still got it, while others are "on the prowl" for something heavier. Some just turn on the charms to "get something", while others try to show a genuine interest. But, to us, it all seems like the same game. So, how do you think we are to know which is which?
Believe me, I have been around long enough to have experience many, but never knew which was which until it was
"too late" sort to speak. It is easy enough to put a "fake" to the test by just calling their bluff, but sometimes it may scare one off who is really sincere, ya know what I mean?
And this "playing hard to get" business
really becomes a chore sometimes...like we are supposed to climb some kindof moutain to win her love....sheeeeesh, what is that all about?
I don't think we are so much blind to the eye contact, and the subtle touching and stuff, but it is the motivation that throws us off.
How are we to "sense" those true motives?
This is getting deep, now, I think...
Taurus Male
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(Who has been asked to ask something)