More than a Friend?

Hello Taurus forum, Pisces girl looking for input on Taurus friend of mine. I'll try to make this really condensed but it might still be long, I apologize in advance.

We met two years of ago through a mutual friend, after I got out of a relationship with my Leo ex. We talked in school every now and then whenever we would see each other, he would talk shit about my ex to my face and say stuff like how did he get a girl like you, compliment the gift I made for my ex for V-Day to this day. I confessed to liking him after a few months bc. I thought the feeling was mutual but he gave me a vague answer: Idk how to respond to that. We lost contact but got back in touch before I graduated HS (last year). We've been texting constantly for months now and he's done the following:

Helped my sister move when I asked him as a favor
Offered to sell me a laptop bc I said I needed a new one
Offered to give me his old Iphone in exchange for helping him with a project
Invited me to a concert, took me to dinner beforehand (we paid separately) and I met his family for the first time (mom + other relatives) before the show (he had me introduce myself to them)
He's driven to my University (which is 20-30 mins away) more than once to see me (we either hang on or work on a project).
Invite me to go eat with him somewhere (I've always paid for my own food, he never offered to pay/buy me food except for one occasion where I gave him a ride and he offered to buy me lunch)
Given me his info for online streaming because I mentioned a show I wanted to watch that is no longer airing on tv.


Last time he was here I went to my car and it wouldn't start, and I mentioned to him I've had car problems in the past and he offered me the part I needed for my car bc. He might have a spare at home even though I said I would buy it when I get paid.

We always have fun when we hang out but he's never physically made a move on me. We did slow dance and a bit of dirty dancing at a function months ago but we've never kissed, we always hug goodbye. If it seems like I'm going to leave without giving him a hug he will say "give me a hug before you leave". We are both single. His last relationship was a few months ago, was an off and on again thing with a Sag girl that chewed him up and spit him out from what I heard from him and friends of mine who know her. They would keep breaking up just to get back together and I guess he finally stopped going back when she started dating someone else and parading the new boyfriend around everywhere just days after her and my Taurus friend broke up.

Just recently he's confessed very personal things to me things he said he hasn't told anybody before (according to him). I would have no clue what was going on in side of his head before. He struggles with anxiety (and depression I believe).

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He sent me something that was very alarming and I checked up on him to make sure he was okay, and told him that I care and will be there for him no matter what. Before he would ask me philosophical hypothetical questions (when he really meant he was talking about himself) but now he opens up to me more easily. He no longer seems like the young cocky high school playboy persona he gives off but is more human because he's shown his vulnerability to me. I've started show my vulnerability as well. I told him a time when I constantly crying for days and sleeping all day over a personal issue and he told me I should have called him and he would have came over to talk about it and brought ice cream with him. When I tell him about my fears and doubts he says he believes in me and just recently he's been asking me how was work/school.

After thinking over this I feel like an idiot. Is it blatantly obvious that he likes me more than a friend? Or am I overthinking things? My reasoning is:

1.) He hasn't mentioned anything about liking me more than a friend
2.) He hasn't physically made a move on me
3.) I've mentioned that I liked him in the past and he gave a vague rejection (when we met two years ago, I was an acquaintance then)
And a big one I left out (Which is a flag redder than the Republic of China in my book):
Months ago he hinted he was still in love with one of his exes, he asked a philosophical question about love, I cut to the chase and asked if he was talking about his exes he ended up saying he used to fall in and out of lose easily but feels trapped in love with an ex. (He just said her, not by the girls actual name) This was back in November.
I don't want to be bold and make a move and embarrass myself and sour the friendship if he doesn't feel the same.

He's also been flakey and hot and cold when I've tried to make plans with him, so I no longer offer to make plans, he does the planing when we hang out. We've never gotten into an argument but when he acts flakey I hit him with silence and he feels it. Last time he was flakey he apologized to me saying he sorry for being a bad friend and he's going through some emotional issues, and he's been better after that and started opening up to me.

What do you guys think? Is there something there, and should I wait for him to come around?

I can post our natal placements if needed.

yes, post your placements

Hm, in my experience, taurus male are gentlemen and always try to help, so its not a big indicator.......

I am conflicted on this one, on one hand, he can gradually grow fond of you after he witnessed you are a reliable person and a close friend...... on the other hand, maybe you are too available to him? like he is flakey when you tried to make plans with him?

I dont know, which is a better route: to be fiesty and passionate or the opposite, slow, gradually growing friendship.....

I wouldnt make a move on him, just subtle seducing 🙂

Sure post the charts?

Haha nvm, hmm well all I can say is it is similar to what I could be like if you were friends of mine, take care of you like a lover. I am very generous to my friends or loved ones, I don't show it much but I do care and show by actions I care. Only when two people think they like each other I will express what you are looking for type of thing and take it from there..

Wait don't flirt unless you want the bull to too..I can be flirty as friends I have endured this in my experience. I can approach you subtle and cautious like or straightforward and fast..

We actually just never forget the bullshit or great times it depends. Sometimes I have sat back and wondered what my ex friends are doing and might hit you up if I have the number. Usually they have other gffs so I just leave it be and move on...So he probably has been through a lot and just remembering past times, and will move on if you are compatible...

@ wicked- For those who are less into reading body language like some people can tell. How would you go about giving advice if you can't read people, you would take initiative or not? Go for it and see.. Right?

@Op-- Yeah major red flags but @wicked is good at filling in the blanks and so many others too. Lol

PV & Jellay you are right on the money. I have many aqua placements.
My chart
Sun: Pisces 1.40
Moon: Leo 8.05
Mercury: Aquarius 16.48
Venus: Aquarius 21.23
Mars: Libra 4.38 R
Jupiter: Aquarius 6.53
Saturn: Aries 5.35
Uranus: Aquarius 6.10 Neptune: Capricorn 6.10
Pluto: Sagittarius 5.32
Lilith: Leo 26.55
Asc node: Virgo 29.05
Ascendant: Sagittarius


His chart
Sun: Taurus 12.03
Moon: Leo 3.17
Mercury: Aries 15.35
Venus: Pisces 28.44
Mars: Taurus 14.31
Jupiter: Pisces 19.52
Saturn: Aries 25.46
Uranus: Aquarius 12.39
Pluto: Sagittarius 7.22 R
Lilith: Libra 15.32
Asc node: Virgo 8.31

During that time we lost touch we would see each other around school there were undeniable physical signs. Whenever he saw me he would stare at me and do the sweeping fix my hair thing that guys do. Like one time he was talking to a guy friend walking one way and I was coming the other direction and he stared at me but averted his eyes if I made eye contact, and he turned around to look at me walk away as soon as I past him. These stare downs always occurred back when he was in the relationship with the Sag so I found it really distasteful and would not give him the time of day. Like he would never come up and say hello to me until after he broke up with the Sag girl. But now that we hang out very often the signs aren't as obvious as they were before. But also when we lost contact he was at a party with his Sag girlfriend and saw the friend that introduced us and tried to pump her for information about me, how is Muse doing? Stuff like that which I found odd.

The Sag girl burned him really bad from what I heard. He hasn't trash talked her other than saying she was crazy but the friend that introduced us told me that the Sag girl was talking to guys on the side, would blackmail boyfriends into staying with her, used to sleep around (she got her bedroom door taken away bc she got caught by her parents) would have sex early on in the relationship. The one thing I think she did that hurt my Taurus friend the most is that he planned a romantic candle night dinner on a lake for her for V-day and she got him nothing. Not even a card, idk if she even said thank you. I was furious for my fiend when I heard that and he says we're similar in that way bc. I made a edible V-Day basket for my Leo ex which I poured my heart and soul into and took me 3 days to make and he a piss poor effort into my gift. I got some $ 3 chocolate and a stuffed penguin. I don't even like penguins so idk why I got one. My Taurus friend still talks about the V-Day gift I gave sayings it's the best one he's ever saw and he was jealous when he saw the gift ( he had a class with my ex).

Looking back it was way over the top but it was my first relationship and now I leaned to tone it down. ‚
*I ended up giving the perfume to my sister because I didn't like the scent.



The Sag girl was also extremely possessive. (I did her chart out of curiosity and she had a Cancer moon and Venus Scorpio so I can see why). My thing is that my Taurus friend kept putting up with her butter and would go back to her after they broke up multiple times (like 5+).

For example he broke up with her on the Friday before prom, went to prom the next day (the function were we got back in touch and danced with each other) and was back with her the following Wenesday of next week. Idk how you could love someone/still love someone that treated you that badly, I'm too prideful for that. I lowkey stalked him(collected info, not follow him) bc. I was interested in him and he routinely goes back to his exes if they're available, and he's friends with a lot of them. I don't know how he gets new girlfriends.

I'm the heartless kind. After the butter I put up with my Leo ex my mindset is one and done. I don't believe in getting back with an ex, don't believe in being friends with exes ( I entertained my Leo ex for a while after I did a month of no contact and swiftly cut him off with no warning) and I dropped a Sag man because was too young (21) to have a butterload of baggage (crazy ex, baby, working 3 jobs to pay child support) even though he was kind, respectful and a better man than my Leo ex. But I wasn't really feeling him (he moved too fast for my liking) and something wasn't adding up and I caught him being deceitful so I cut him off and haven't spoken to him since. My Taurus knows of this ( I showed him the messages of me being extremely cold to my Leo ex after the breakup and said that was kinda mean even though he didn't like him). So he knows I don't play that butter.