Whats the lesson?

I 100% believe in fate and karma. Theres a REASON things happen in your life. So you can learn something from it. Every tragedy I've ever experienced I learned from. Every positive thing in my life I learned from. Sometimes when you're caught up in it, the lesson isn't so clear. Even the fact that you're supposed to be learning one isn't clear. But I had a nice conversation with a virgo friend of mine the other night, talked about the Taurus. She said 'what's the test?'. And it made me realize that this is some kind of lesson. Now I'd like some help figuring out what I'm supposed to be learning.

I'm not kidding when I'm stating in disbelief how perfect this guy is for me personality wise. I just keep shaking my head in disbelief. Never expected it, and I'm still watching to see, how is this not the case? Where are the flaws I expect to find? Well.. personality wise, there aren't any. It throws me. Even his 'flaws' are the ones I would WANT in a mate.

*SMH* so WHY did fate decide I'd be with the perfect guy personality wise.. who can't do any of the thing I love to do? It is beyond frustrating. (in case you havent been following me, he's severely sensitive to sunlight and I'm very outdoorsy)

There has to be a reason, something I'm supposed to learn here. —??

First off, you are actually trying to learn, and therefore learning, from your life's experiences. Pretty novel in the realm of human beings.

As for what this lesson is, well, you may not know for a long, long time. Let me also point out that I am significantly older than you. So, with that in mind, when I look back I find that many of the "Lessons" I learned long ago can come back and help/teach me again. I can learn new things from the old lessons. I find this quite a remarkable thing, actually.

As I say, what the lesson of today is for you I can't say. You may not be able to say either, at least for some time. I would say though that true, deep, and abiding love is something that is very special. It isn't something that comes along that often. You may have to choose between your "the perfect guy" and some of the other things you love in your life.

Life choices can really suck. I wish I had better to offer you, but the facts are all I have.

I think I just figure (part?) of it out. I need to learn to enjoy the moment, live in the now.

Well, if you don't plan for tomorrow, your now can be pretty crappy.

Having said that, you are absolutely correct, it is always now, never back then or tomorrow.

As long as I am chatting, I have to say that I have some pretty mixed feelings about karma. To many good people who have to many bad things happen, to many evil people, and I mean actually evil people, who seem to win, time, after time, after time.

Do things happen for a reason, well, I am even more mixed about that. After all, just because I can't see the reason, the pattern, doesn't mean that there is no reason or pattern.

True, but it can be just as crappy if you only live in the future/past. And I'm notorious for that. lol.

My understanding of how karma works is that it transcends lifetimes. When bad things happen to good people, perhaps they weren't such good people in another life. Which means that bad people may have been good before. I think everyone's balanced over a long enough timeline. I think we're all spirits that incarnate to learn lessons and experience true joy, love, and happiness, which aren't as intense of feelings in the spirit world. There's also not as intense of pain. There is truth in the saying that if you never experience sadness, you won't recognize happiness. I think we incarnate with the people who are key figures in our lives (family, close friends) because we agreed to, before this life began, so we could learn from each other.

I believe this is the right book, I can't find my copy atm, but if its the one I'm thinking it is (99.5% sure) this book explains my understanding very well.

The Magus Of Strovolos: The Extrodinary World of a Spiritual Healer by Kyriacos C. Markides

Teehee.. my saggittarius is showing. Getting all philosophical on ya.

Oo found it! Yes, this is the right book. I'm only about half way through it, but thats because I highlighted and tabbed it all the way through. I was going to post some quotes for you, but a lot of these concepts would require a long explanation not just the quote..maybe I can find a couple..

Quote:
"All illnesses are a result of Karma. It is either the result of your own debts or the debts of others you love."
"I can understand paying for one's own Karma, but what does it mean paying for the Karma of someone you love?"
"What do you think Christ meant when he urged us to bear one another's burdens? Karma has to be paid off in one way or another. This is the universal law of balance. So when we love someone, we may assist him in paying part of his debt. But this is only possible after that person has received his 'lesson' and therefore it would not be necessary to pay his debt in full. ... Suppose someone who has killed a lot of people through several of his incarnations has been loved by another person. A loving bond has been established between them through the centuries. That person may willingly, wether consciously or unconsciously, accept some of the Karma of the loved person, assuming again that most of the debt has already been paid off by the other person who, in the mean time has received the necessary lesson. .. Whatever happens to us, which in this life causes us pain, is either the result of our own debts or the result of our readiness to pay the debts of loved ones whose Karma may be too burdensome to carry by themselves."

"When a human being abandons his gross material body (ie through meditation, astral projection, etc), he begins to live simultaneously within two planes of existence, the real psychic plane and his own subjective psychic world. Most human beings are so engrossed within their own subjective shell that they are unaware of the nature of the psychic plane within which they vibrate. It is as if, for example, we are on a journey but because of our passions are psychic turmoil, we are oblivious to the beauty of the countryside outside."

I gotta' say, you covered a lot of ground there. I would point back to my post where I said just cause I can't see the pattern, doesn't mean there isn't a pattern, and say that I pretty much agree with what you are saying. I may not grasp/fully appreciate/totally agree with all you have posted, but I have to wonder about a lot of things.

Yeah, I figured you'd pretty much agree. Just thought I might interest you in the book. 😉

Thanks for the book reference then. I will have to give it a read, someday. Right now my reading schedule is filled with such thrillers as "Business Statistics," and "Legal Environment."


Try to hide your jealousy!!!!

LOL How could one? Those sound like tremendous rea....zzzzzzzzzzz. 🙂

VB, VB!!!!!! Wake up VB!!!✨poke, poke*!!!!

The guy at table six wants to order the "Rocky Mountain Oysters!!!!d"

LOL I'm up, I'm up! Cannot I interest you in a breakfast special? Cup of coffee? And you better watch it *index fingers going up* I am the Master of Poke-Fu!

I thought you told me you didn't serve furburgers with sides of tatertits here—??


Gad, now I sound like KOL, shudder.............

The hounds call, we are off to the hunt!!!!!

War on brave soldier. *snappily saluting*

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Aries.

Posted by Skykomish
I 100% believe in fate and karma. Theres a REASON things happen in your life. So you can learn something from it. Every tragedy I've ever experienced I learned from. Every positive thing in my life I learned from. Sometimes when you're caught up in it, the lesson isn't so clear. Even the fact that you're supposed to be learning one isn't clear. But I had a nice conversation with a virgo friend of mine the other night, talked about the Taurus. She said 'what's the test?'. And it made me realize that this is some kind of lesson. Now I'd like some help figuring out what I'm supposed to be learning.

I'm not kidding when I'm stating in disbelief how perfect this guy is for me personality wise. I just keep shaking my head in disbelief. Never expected it, and I'm still watching to see, how is this not the case? Where are the flaws I expect to find? Well.. personality wise, there aren't any. It throws me. Even his 'flaws' are the ones I would WANT in a mate.

*SMH* so WHY did fate decide I'd be with the perfect guy personality wise.. who can't do any of the thing I love to do? It is beyond frustrating. (in case you havent been following me, he's severely sensitive to sunlight and I'm very outdoorsy)

There has to be a reason, something I'm supposed to learn here. —??

No one can tell you what your lessons are.
BUT,looking at it from the outside...I can tell you what MY lesson would be,and I can tell you this,because I've already learned it.
in situations like this,I have learned that after the initial romance and warm fuzzies wear down some...and it always does,it's how life works....
that if you do not have at least some of the same basic interest's,values and even hobbies you can enjoy together as best friends...you don't have much to be bonded over and share.
romance imo,can only go so far...and can only be kept alive by growing,learning,and experiencing things together.
So,you can love someone as a person,lover,husband,wife tremendously....but if you don't have that basic bond of common enjoyment together,and you each do your own thing...eventually you grow in different directions.
that is MY lesson...but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has learned it.

You can care for someone extremely beyond anything for someone you aren't going to be with. And there is nothing wrong with having love in your heart.