leo who cant figure out virgo

Hello people i love this forum and i have this story with a virgo and i cant understand anything at all

Im a leo and once i found a virgo we had sex and enjoyed each-other it was amazing. He was cool and awesome i had his phone we texted a lot added him on Facebook and he said i don't usually add just anyone as a friend in Facebook it felt great. I know virgo is not emotional. Then after time he said i have a relationship and i love her but she not satisfying me in sex thats why i have cheated not only with you and with other people also. He said lets be friends with benefits cause i fall for him and i looked for a meaning. I told him i cant. you are in relationship and its wrong and cheating. We argued a lot tried to confines me but failed. I loved him and told him and he said he loves me too but he cant leave her because he committed and he feels like he taking care for her. He said lets be friends i cant offered to lose you, you are great and everything all the sweet talks. I tried but once we were watching movies and he hold my hands close and i read this how they show affection and things. I was loving him i told him i cant do it as friends i need the whole of you. I love you he said i cant i wish i knew you earlier and everything i cant hurt her she loves me and i love her and I'm happy now. Then i told him i cant we left for a while then he came begging me to change my mind as being as friends but i said i cant. He used to tell me i miss you even more than her and always giving me a feedback about him even if i didn't ask.

If he happy and loves her why he cheats ?!
Did he loved me or just playing or just needs me as friend?!
Does he make this decision because of just the idea of commitment even if he is not getting what he needs?!
Does he loved me or no?!
Should i stayed as friend maybe something will come up because i made him to choose ?!
Now after i said i cant i, thought he will come will fight more but he acted cold and do nothing, like i wasn't in his life and that killing me. Im feeling like a fool.

Please help me to understand I'm driving myself crazy.

Thanx for the big help in advance

Please tell me you are not serious...

Look, it's plain and simple, you answered your own questions. He said you are his sex toy, he goes to you because you please his sexual appetite. That's it. I'm sorry for you ( and his girlfriend) because no one deserves to be treated like this. Please stop being delusional and psycho analyzing everything, the man is a sick jerk. Do yourself a favor and run as far and as fast away from this man as possible.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Does his other half know? Tell her, not him.!🙂

YES! If you have a conscience, let the gf know.

1)"he said i don't usually add just anyone as a friend in Facebook"
He planned and knew his intention with you from beginning...he is very private and doesn't want to get caught. Figures this could be a good step to win you by expressing the above.

2)"he said i have a relationship and i love her but she not satisfying me in sex thats why i have cheated not only with you and with other people also."
3)"he said he loves me too but he cant leave her because he committed and he feels like he taking care for her."

2)+3) i feel he is testing out ways to get what he wants with you. In the first method 2) he was very frank with you "honest is the best policy"...you probably couldn't accept it. Then he tried to use the "appeal to pity" in 3. that he has NO CHOICE because he has this "heart of gold" he needs to be this good and help her. Leaving her would be hard. However, we all know that is bs.

4) he said i cant i wish i knew you earlier and everything i cant hurt her she loves me and i love her and I'm happy now"
By now he probably already got what he wanted. So now hes telling you that there is no chance you and him will be more than what you guys are now because THAT IS ALL he ever wanted.

the rest are just fillers for you to stay...How does one plan of achieving their career goals? health goals? by planning every step, implementing the plans, change and adapt if unexpected things take a turn (which is also planned), have a time frame. How does this guy get you to do what he wants? say and do anything (like holding your hand and saying how much he misses you..because he knows you'll crack) to get laid and be "friends"

sweetie, these romantic words/actions isn't dichotomous to a man's love for you, yes at times its a indicator but not absolute. Its what one doesn't do or say that will reveal the truth. And the truth of the matter here is mentioned in everything you expressed. All beginning with "he isn't". He isn't going to love you the way you need. He isn't going to leave his girlfriend for you. He isn't happy with his life and the people in it. He isn't ready for any relationship.

Do you really want a person who just has a bunch of "isn't-s"?

@OP for your own sanity, move on and don't put yourself through this BS. He isn't worth it...

I'm a Virgo male and I also agree with everevolvingepithet & Nebulous_CLoud(. He's a jerk!!! Behind the scenes and in his mind he has an overdeveloped sense of commitment to his partner who doesn't give him what he needs. Us Virgo males don't cheat because of that even if a girl spends all day kicking us in our teeth. He''s wrong for you though. He already tricked you and has taken advantage of you. THAT'S NOT LOVE!!! Sorry. If he was straight with you from the beginning it never would of happened to begin with. He's a lying treacherous snake and you should bash him in the head by telling his girl and running like hell!!!

Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
Please tell me you are not serious...

Look, it's plain and simple, you answered your own questions. He said you are his sex toy, he goes to you because you please his sexual appetite. That's it. I'm sorry for you ( and his girlfriend) because no one deserves to be treated like this. Please stop being delusional and psycho analyzing everything, the man is a sick jerk. Do yourself a favor and run as far and as fast away from this man as possible.

yes you are right about being sex toy, when he needs sex all loving friendy and everything awesome and beautiful after that he returns to be cold and distant again. so if i was his sex toy why he needs my frienship he know as friends no sex and he kept begging and begging for that doesn't want to lose me and i said i cant i'm in-love with you we cant be friends.

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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Does his other half know? Tell her, not him.!🙂

YES! If you have a conscience, let the gf know.

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LOL i cant i dont want troubles. if he as he said happy and everthing worked-out with her so let it be. as for her it's better if she found out herself i don't want to cought in the middle of this and i don't want to burn all the bridges between me and him.

i want to leave in peace !!

Posted by candi3bb
1)"he said i don't usually add just anyone as a friend in Facebook"
He planned and knew his intention with you from beginning...he is very private and doesn't want to get caught. Figures this could be a good step to win you by expressing the above.

2)"he said i have a relationship and i love her but she not satisfying me in sex thats why i have cheated not only with you and with other people also."
3)"he said he loves me too but he cant leave her because he committed and he feels like he taking care for her."

2)+3) i feel he is testing out ways to get what he wants with you. In the first method 2) he was very frank with you "honest is the best policy"...you probably couldn't accept it. Then he tried to use the "appeal to pity" in 3. that he has NO CHOICE because he has this "heart of gold" he needs to be this good and help her. Leaving her would be hard. However, we all know that is bs.

4) he said i cant i wish i knew you earlier and everything i cant hurt her she loves me and i love her and I'm happy now"
By now he probably already got what he wanted. So now hes telling you that there is no chance you and him will be more than what you guys are now because THAT IS ALL he ever wanted.

the rest are just fillers for you to stay...How does one plan of achieving their career goals? health goals? by planning every step, implementing the plans, change and adapt if unexpected things take a turn (which is also planned), have a time frame. How does this guy get you to do what he wants? say and do anything (like holding your hand and saying how much he misses you..because he knows you'll crack) to get laid and be "friends"

sweetie, these romantic words/actions isn't dichotomous to a man's love for you, yes at times its a indicator but not absolute. Its what one doesn't do or say that will reveal the truth. And the truth of the matter here is mentioned in everything you expressed. All beginning with "he isn't". He isn't going to love you the way you need. He isn't going to leave his girlfriend for you. He isn't happy with his life and the people in it. He isn't ready for any relationship.

Do you really want a person who just has a bunch of "isn't-s"?

i love you 😛 . you have analyzed everything and it's damn true. i can't belive i was that stupid i thought he loved me or he is gonna pick me. this guy ruined me. whats killing me is every

what's killing me is everytime i say Goodbye, he refuse to say it "No it's not goodbye" and that giving me hope or chance that he will decide or something. he truly ruined me but i'll be better. i wish i can see the regret he is all happy acting like i'm nothing in his life and no change or lose happened 😢

Posted by insilenthill
what's killing me is everytime i say Goodbye, he refuse to say it "No it's not goodbye"

When you say goodbye you should follow up with leaving him. You're entertaining the drama because you refuse to walk away and spare your feelings.

Insilenthill:

Learn to love yourself first. Once you know how to do that, it is SO much easier to figure out if someone is worthy of you.

now he sent this massage saying

"From my experience in this life, most of the good things happen in our lives in the wrong place & at the wrong time. We rarely get the right things or what we really want at right time & in the right place.
When I first met u, I realized how different u r from typical girls we meet everyday or we know. I liked u much and when I knew u more I really wanted to be with u and share my life with u. But the thing is that I met u in the wrong time coz I was already involved in a relationship with someone. Yes, it's my mistake that I met someone & cheated on my girlfriend but when I decided to be a good person & be loyal to my girlfriend, it was hard to keep it up with u as it started between us & thought to have u as a friend for life coz I really can't say how much I like u and proud to have u as a friend for life ..

I'm now writing to u to say few things to u only..
u have to know that u r the most priceless person I ever met in my life and if I was single, I would never let u go, but I had to.
u have to know that I will do whatever it takes to keep u as a friend 4 life... I'll be no longer in here & a relationship is no longer an option between us .. However, we still can be the 2 best friends ever & forever ..

I'm writing this to u from the bottom of my heart & I mean every single word .. I like u very much , I love u very much and I am pretty sure that I will never get a better caring, adorable, warm hearted person than yourself.

u are always in my mind & when I read something from u on twitter or Facebook I panic but I pretend if there's nothing .. I'm not selfish & I think about u also .. If I was selfish I could have told u that I love u and we could have been together for few months then left u in here and get back to the town, but it's not me... I care about u and ur feelings , that's why I wasn't in touch with u for quite long time .. It's quite hard & tough but I did it for the sake of both of us..

u have to know that I will never say goodbye to u , even if u decided to cut it off between us , u will still be Meo the best person I ever known in my life.

All my best wishes to u in ur entire life & all the best of luck with ur career .. u are a very good, decent, polite, dedicated person & u deserve the best in everything ..

I will be there for u anytime u need me .. I'll be more than happy to serve u, help u, support u, listen to u, stand by u, advise u, or anything else .. I'll be there for u I

CONT.

"I'll be there for you I promise .. I promise .. I promise ..
Yours, with love"

now you read it and you are a Virgo.
what he wants?
is he really loves or loved me?
is this a guilt talking or just out of missing and love?
do u think a friendship will work between us as he deserve it or no?
should i just leave now coming from this or he will never says me as a lover?

Virgos please come around and gather to help me ... i need to know

Posted by ladySP
*Red Flags and Very Suspicious in the way he writes.*

If someone had to make a formatted letter of a occupied Player (one who is already in a relationship), ^^^ this would be it. Just search Google, you will find one and many of the same kind of letters, far more familiar than comfortable for you I'd swear.

Let him go, it is not worth it, he's playing you and now currently pulling the victim card, triggering your emotions by the strings. You're not a puppet, pull together and as Virgospirit said above, love yourself first and foremost, because if you don't no body can love you. It will be difficult but stand firm, stand up for yourself to get the respect you deserve.

Good Luck dear 🙂

i let him go that what i did. as u read that he is in another city now but he wants my friendship he doesn't want a love relationship as it's hard from distance.
if he is playing me what the good for him he is not even in the city so we can meet or cheat or anything?!

Posted by ladySP

Posted by insilenthill

Posted by ladySP
*Red Flags and Very Suspicious in the way he writes.*

If someone had to make a formatted letter of a occupied Player (one who is already in a relationship), ^^^ this would be it. Just search Google, you will find one and many of the same kind of letters, far more familiar than comfortable for you I'd swear.

Let him go, it is not worth it, he's playing you and now currently pulling the victim card, triggering your emotions by the strings. You're not a puppet, pull together and as Virgospirit said above, love yourself first and foremost, because if you don't no body can love you. It will be difficult but stand firm, stand up for yourself to get the respect you deserve.

Good Luck dear 🙂

i let him go that what i did. as u read that he is in another city now but he wants my friendship he doesn't want a love relationship as it's hard from distance.
if he is playing me what the good for him he is not even in the city so we can meet or cheat or anything?!

He is in another city but he doesn't want a 'friendship' with you per se, he wants an Ego Boost and you are giving it to him. The relationship he has isn't fulfilling him the way it should, yet you are there providing what a 'girlfriend' would give, even without the label and entitlements, for free!

What better way for him to get an Ego Boost than to have a pseudo 'girlfriend' with no attachments at all, with distance in between, so no nasty drama involved either.

Open your eyes dear, please get a grip. Nobody here wants you hurt 🙂

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this is really sick!!! so i should just leave without even talking or anything just disappear or should i talk him that it's over as he left and kept his cell phone and sun glasses saying that he will come letter to take them he said i don't need them now and i'm not worried that it's with u. how can i rid of those as this will be a reason for me to see him again which i don't want.

He's a cheating,lying ass. He's only saying he loves you and misses you to keep you as a toy! What he really means is I want your stuff and hers and others and ill say anything to keep this shit up because I'm a selfish ass and that's what I do! Its just sex and empty words. I'm sorry to be blunt but I am sure based off your morals displayed by telling him no. It is cheating and wrong! That you already feel this and know that he's using you! If he really loved his girl( the one he won't leave) he wouldn't be lying to her and cheating. And if he is lying to her then why would you trust he wouldn't lie to you? Actions speak louder then words. He's lying to both of you and probably others. I say run girl. Block his # and chill out. Have some self confidence and trust there are true honest guys who won't cheat and lie and make you an option out there. Don't hang out because you have feelings for him. I promise, you'll have those feelings and more when you find another who is true to only you!

@isenthill i think this is the second thread i have read and just a little bit of advice, stop compromising yourself for what you think you need....these men are clearly using you....babygirl you need to revalue your self worth its very clear your confused... No man that really wants to be with you going to tell you that they want to be with someone else... Never let a man use you for self pleasure....A real man that wants you will exceed your expectations...you wont have to have a — sign in your head whether he wants you or not, because you will know when its real....