Virgo men..how r u with Pisces women??....

juet sound out a virgo male close to me- his mother's a pisces. now, me(Sagg fem) we dont mix well with Pis AT ALL, male or female. per exp, with me and the women they typically have fits just wenever n watever for oh n the sneakiness..but then agen, this could just be with the younger ones. wat say the jury

thats with friendships, associates(me n pisces)...for watever the word means n the beginning

Oh so sorrie my typing isnt so legible, i n between tasks..n the beginning thats just* found* out ...

Some places say Pisces and Saggitarius are the best match.

"Pisces will always have an aire of naivity to them, which is always tranformed into negativity."

That's because Pisces is more communicative than Sags.

"Saggitarians are different, in the respect they can take punishment but it never really turns into negative energy."

Punishment has different effects to Sag and Pisces. Punishment for Sag means far less than it means to Pisces. Saggitarius is self reliant and optimistic. He/she belives that things will sort themselves out and probably to the good, while Pisces takes it far more deeply. Pisces knows that leaving things to sort themselves out (also added from previous experiences) will rarely turn into good for them. Pisces needs trusting ground to which he/she can step while Sag does not care for that at all. Pisces has far more room to grow than Sag does. In that respect, Sag will burn out very quickly for Virgo while Pisces will resist for very long time which is very benefical for Virgo.

What do u think it says if Virgo male's mother is Pisces..i wonder wat wood attract him to fire signs for mate..

Having a Pisces mother (assuming that she's truly a Pisces) he will probably be very grounded and level headed. But if his mother is undeveloped Pisces then he probably will be outrageous, domineering and lonely.

In first case, he probably will not have a chance with fire signs. Since his ego will be leveled and fire signs will not find him attractive. However in the second situation, he will have a big chance.

yea, i dont think my optimism wood let me discourage if i wanted to, i am pretty much a people person but he and i met like that so i dont get how its at ne rate uncomfortable to him now...he goes long ways to prove a point.virgo male i no acts like it turns him on if i get upset from us not getting together for sumthing..i dont get y he goes thru such dramatics to not see me, but yea..he acts shy even after all this time (like 4+ yrs) bout how he feels about me, hes real 'read between the lineish' or hell say sumthin meaningful wen he thinks im not payin attention, so i just act like i dont hear him, i might mention it just to see if hes n the elaboration mood but to no avail hell mutter wat am i talkin about...the mind games i tell u, he takes them on beyond humor points..

"I don't know what would attact a Virgo to a firesign."

Overbearing pride and ego.

wow so i guess Blunt is the word of the day huh Haffo.. i wouldnt say that we Saggs overbear nemore ego or pride than virgos do with pessimism almost always...

Yeah blunt is the word of the day.

However, since you have said, Virgo is bond with pessimism. Pessimism is not good for fire signs.

Well, we agree on that. its like kryptonite to all the beautiful things we make happen sadly virgo doesnt believe it until he sees it and doesnt see it cause he doesnt think its possible reallie pessimism is good for no one though virgos r synonymous with it

Pessimism is way of life.

Today we cannot say wether pessimism or optimism is more superiour.

My personal thought is that either optimism or pessimism are wrong. Lack of emotional development in people is what causes this.

Optimistic people are proactive. They act before thoroughtly think what the consequences might be.

Pessimist sometimes does not act when needed which might be benefical for them.

The source of this dillema is that people does not know what they really want and how human nature works. Both they do indulge on false senses which brings disaster to both groups.

Therefore, when we will talk about optimism or pessimism, we simply talk about foolish ways of life.

As the saying goes:

For optimist people glass is half full.

For pessimist people glass is half empty.

For engineer the glass is twise bigger than it should be.

All female signs are pessimistic Shaka2.

Pretentious does not mean optimism btw. Pretentious means ego. And virgo is driven by ego. Virgo will show his intelligence and put people down for his/her own battle of control. And since Virgo will think before act, that makes it pessimist.

I talk about typical Virgo, not whole chart Shaka2. Surely chart will create differences, but that statement is narrow-minded for me. Because judging a person personality according his chart and not by who he really are, is stıpid.

"I was referring to the "all female signs are pessimistic" statement"

All Female Sun signs are pessimistic qualited.

Haffo,
never heard the saying but i like it
"Pessimism is way of life."

"Today we cannot say wether pessimism or optimism is more superiour."

"My personal thought is that either optimism or pessimism are wrong. Lack of emotional development in people is what causes this."

I agree neither is superior. the two are necessary in their own time. both potential to breed equally tragic environments wen not accompanied by "emotional development" n awareness of surroundings.

Shaka,
wen i referred to virgo as being pessimistic compared to my masculine sign(Sagg) im female(lol)just thought id throw that n, at ne rate i meant as haffo put "thinking before acting" some people's thoughts drift toward more negative possibly scenarios and others to more pleasant situations now from there to wat actually is going on depends on the personality and also "emotional development" the latter mainly

Oh n on wat Haffo mentioned earlier, you asked about the logic, no logic..simple cause and effect, thinking before acting along with lack of emotional development invites pessimism while with such a vital tool it can be more beneficial than hurtful to any party

"Haffo,
never heard the saying but i like it
"Pessimism is way of life.""

I meant that some people choice this quality to guide their lives. Not that everyone should follow it.

"I know, I never stated the contrary btw, I merely said not being pretentious or too vocal about your wishes,plans, dreams doesnt mean youre pessimistic."

If you do this way, then you are doing the best.

"Nope, we are driven by service to others, its only this what really gives us happiness and peace of mind. I cant remember the last time I showed my intelligence to put people down, in fact on a regular basis I prefer not showing it, and I couldnt care less what impression I might be giving by doing so. Its only when I reach a deeper level of intimacy with someone that I naturally feel the need of showing it."

This is the description of Pisces, not Virgo. Typical Virgo is driven by ego. Servicing others is a boost of ego for Virgo. But not including ego in the service is the quality of Pisces. This is what Virgo learns from Pisces. Surely we talk here about typical Signs. It doesn't have to mean that someone who born under particular sign is unconditionally drawn to this description.

" I fail to see the logic here, maybe you can help me out?"

Virgo will not criticise people before he/she learns what the real deal with sitıuation is. Probably read some scientific sources, deplete libraries etc. In short, it will utilise all resources before act. This is perssimism. But it also could be neither pesimism or optimism.

"PLAN B, just in case.. I always have a plan B. Technically that doesnt make me pessimistic only too realistic of what could go wrong."

It could work both ways. If you know human nature, then it is realism. If you don't know human nature and just take it as "in case" then this is persismism.

"Fair enough! but the "along with lack of emotional development" bothers me, since I dont think I lack it, I can rather control it (NOT repress it) too well, I guess thats a Virgo trait."

That could be too bold statement in todays world. Very few people do really know human nature, and most people who claim that they do really know it are wrong.

I don't say that you don't know it, but I say it's rather a little too "surprising".

Shaka,
wat wood be advantage of successfuly repressing emotional development with someone else..??.. in ne situation, it deludes the entire thing for better or for worse depending on the personalities

"And haffo I do not claim knowing human nature entirely, Im talking about my own emotions, I guess the fact that my sun,moon and mercury are all in Virgo gives me a very integrated personality, Im not lying when I say that I can control my emotions, not tending to be repressed."

Better for you.

Ditto.

Ps, i love my shorthand..haffo is it reallie that bad..??.. be brutal.lol

"haffo is it reallie that bad..??.. be brutal.lol"

Yes it's really that bad. Actually if people really would reach the highest emotional development, no one could cheat each other.

Is she?

I was..talkn about my spelling

"see now haff? you need some sleep mate! lol!"

Nope. I just need young, host and attractive girl who would help me to practise English.lol.