What do you think?

I have been dating a virgo man for almost (October) a year. I'm a leo. We had our clashes with pride and ego in the beginning but now we're getting along better. He has a tendency to flip out and get mad for no reason in my opinion and then he gets even madder when I dont see why the hell he's so mad in the first place. He is extremely intiuitive. ONe night when we slept together he told me an angel told him that I was going to get pregnant and we would have a son and name him Isaiah. I didnt believe it and to further avoid it I took the morning after pill. Well low and behold, I'm pregnant now. I found out recently and I'm about 12 weeks along. I dont understand virgo men. One day he'll say that we arent going to be together and so on so forth and the next day he'll tell me that we're going to have more kids and that I'm the best thing that ever happened to him and so on so forth. He seems like he's going to be a supportive father but at the same time he's also wasteful. When he has money instead of saving it he'll make frivoulous purchases like hundred dollar prada glasses that he doesnt even wear. But of course I dont say anything. I just want to know: what should I think about him? Should I believe him when he's sweet or could a virgo be that manipulative to be deciving me?

He sounds as if he's not quiet sure of himself. And maybe projecting that on to you. He's tossing things out to you - to see how you will respond. I think we covered this on another topic on the Virgo board and "game playing" - but it's not at all. It's fear. Becoming a parent is scary for some people, it means he will have to grow up and face responsibilities.....

He sound scared to me.

Thanks glee, maybe you're right. I mean other people like my parents have said that maybe he's scared but he always seems so confident, like " I got this" you know? I been reading alot of the posts on Virgos some are insightful and some are just people arguing. When he flips I try to leave him be, I wont call first and I wont come around I kinda figure that when hes ready to talk he'll call me. Truth be told I love him but I just dont know what to do. Which posts give the most useful info on virgos? (there are alot!!) If a virgo isnt talking to you should you pursue it or leave it up to them?

Congrats TASHA!

Looks like we are going to be delivering around the same time...Well actually I should be earlier because I am having twins. ANYWAY...I think there is always a chance that he could be deceiving you, but from what you have written, I doubt it. I say don't give up on it because like glee said...it is all about the fear and he'll probably get over it as soon as he sees your "son, Isaiah"

Has anyone noticed how many pregnant women there are? I wonder if that has anything to do with all these natural disasters and war that has caused so much death. Hmmm...

Cancerlady

Tasha, I find that trying to figure out a Virgo sometimes is like trying to talk under water. With the one I know - I don't call him that much. I guess it gets down to if you want to talk to me, you'll call me. I find that they can be kind of moody at times and want and need their space. I don't think there is nothing wrong if he doesn't want to talk - it maybe his own private down time. To think, or analyze, or just do nothing. Sometimes, I will call him just to check on him and he appreciates it - but he doesn't want to talk long. And that's cool too. So when he calls me it's nice. And he wants to see me and we just enjoy each other's company. But I find them also to be a little self-absorded too -
I don't think it's anything for you to worry about.... if you want to call him, call him. If he doesn't want to talk, just tell him you'll talk to him later. I don't think it's a set thing on how to treat a Virgo male -
I think your parents are right - about the fear part. I guess you'll just have to play it by ear with this one. I have been seeing a Virgo for some time now and I still get a little confused at times - LOL. But, I don't let what he does affect me that much. I think you have to just have a sixth sense on how to deal with them and understand them.

I don't believe in giving a man a hard time - just because he's not doing what you want him to do. Sometimes it makes it worse. I do believe that you have to give a person a chance to do what they need to do. If this man is serious, he'll let you know in some way. But just be still with it. Don't bother him too much. Sometimes I think they like to keep you off guard.....

Congrats Cancerlady!!! Oh my goodness TWINS!! and here I am being all paranoid and stressing about one baby!!
Sometimes I look at pregnancy as a damn disease thats highly contagious cuz once u have it u start to see a whole gang of other women suffering, I mean, going through it too (smile). My college professor told us she was preggers, my best friend found out she was preggers next and I saw both of those heffas twice a week for hours on end, it was inevitable that I catch it too. all this time I though I was so save (sniffles, LOL)

I think that theres some fear that has to be associated with having a child especially so young we're 21/22. This is both of our first child, I have had a previous abortion and his last girlfriend has a previous miscarriage. We go thru so much that part of me thinks that we're destined to be together. Many a time we have sworn that we were threw with one another just to get back together and when questioned as to why we even started talking again the response is "I dont know, I just felt like talking to u" "or for some reason I missed u and I had to atleast hear your voice" and then we're back at it. For all of the faults of virgos I have to say that their positives are way worth it. I'm gonna agree with u glee, I figure I'll let him stew in his juices, when he's ready to talk to me he will but I'm not going to chase him or harrass him. Everyone has to grow at their own pace. We're having a child together, I figure he has to talk to me EVENTUALLY (LOL). When he does call I wont roar at him like us leos aren accustomed to I'll be sweet about it, u know. I think virgos are the epitomy of their symbol, a woman, extremely sensitive but damn good at hiding it.

Tasha

Pregnancy is definitely contagious...My sister is also pregnant with twins, however she will be delivering soon, like maybe 2 weeks. She's having 2 boys. I always yell at her because she cursed me. For instance when she was pregnant before with her daughter, my middle sister got preggo 6 months later with her first child. So then this heffa gets preggo with twins and lo & behold here I go with twins also.

But enough about me, you seem very happy to take this next step in your life and you are right to focus on that. Keep us posted on what's going on! Oh yeah, do you have any belly pics yet? Ultrasounds? I have been keeping a journal of sorts, maybe you could too...Just a suggestion

Cancerlady/CancerMamaDeuce

Hey, your transitional name is going to be....TashaMama!

hi tasha305,

if it's anything to go by, and if there is anything worth beleiving when it comes to the same sign. I'm a virgo and it's against my nature to be with someone long if I don't love them, never mind to have a child with them. Secondly, leos attract me in a funny way, itseams I love them immediatelly, in all their glory, but as long as they don't tell me what to do, cause this means in my mind they critisise me, which for a virgo is bad, not being appreciated in everything they do... But I find we can comunicate well. We do need space, to reflect on everything and are very sensitive, even though do not ever show it...
And as for any sign, if there is love anything else can be built on it, and it seams to me that you two have it, so good luck. Nikolina

cause this means in my mind they critisise me, which for a virgo is bad, not being appreciated in everything they do...

At what point do you not tell a Virgo about somethings that they are doing that upsets you. After seeing a Virgo for quiet some time now - sometimes I am not happy about how he treats me. It is like he is insensitive to me and my feelings, but always want me to take under considerations his feelings. That to me is not fair. Since we have been seeing each other it's been a series of ups and downs.... and it's always his issues that get in the way. Being a Scorpio - we are constant - don't waver in our love for a person. We get very close and then he backs away - sometimes I feel as if I have been tossed into the air and forgotten about... and it's up to me to try to get down alone. So I guess my question is: How do you tell a Virgo that he's hurting you by doing what he does? Every time I try to tell him or just talk to him - he gets hurt. Then tells me he doesn't want a relationship. Then comes right back. It's rather childish to say the least.

Thank-you... for the most part I have dealt with it. I have known him for 8 years. And from the past there are ghosts for him. It puts strain on a person to try to communicate. Yesterday, I totally ignored him. I just didn't have anything to say. Being a Scorpio - we keep things to ourselves. Very private. Then he started to just talk and talk and I didn't know he was talking to me. Then he turns to this guy and blurts out - "She's not listening to anything I'm saying" - well I didn't because I thought he was talking to someone else. But I just need some space now. I need to be alone. Away from him.

Awww glee,it saddens me to read your last post you seem so sad. Come on now you are one of the last few "stick with your virgo" crusaders!!! Come on dont give up!! THE TEAM NEEDS YOU!! We're running out of members and fast!!! (smile) One of the main things I despise is when they finally push you to that point of "F**k it!!" and so easily get you back. Its like everytime they mess up its intentional but whenever their sweet its because you caught them in a momentary lapse. Like a blink and u miss it moment. I agree for the most part about the majoritys opinion - you just have to take them as they are. As hard as it may be, dont allow yourself to get too sensitive or take their absent minded STUPIDITY too personally (being a leo, trust me its work but if I cant struggle thru it then anyone can!). COme on guys lets try to stick it out just a bit longer, come back with no reservations dont hold on to the past or else it will drag you down like an anchor. I you in your heart clear the slate and come back swinging and it still doesnt work out then let it be but never surrender without even fighting!!!

Hi Tasha!

"As hard as it may be, dont allow yourself to get too sensitive or take their absent minded STUPIDITY too personally"

I must agree with you on this. I would say this for both virgos and cancerians. Their down swing lasts for a short while(atleast in my case) and they bounce back. I have gone thru such ups and downs with my very own Virgo many times. And each time it has been a growing process. Each time we are back with much more renewed assurance of how it is all great and everythign going to be fine.

Virgos are people of deep understanding. The more you let them in abotu yourself, the more the wrinkles in the relatioship get ironed out. IMO relax and give it time. Tomorow's another day. Hell why peopel attirbute htis statement to Aries..this is something my virgo and me believe in.....in my case even b4 i was introduced to "Gone With The Wind".