
truecap
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Posted by msmarilynmanson
i would tell him "it makes me feel bad when you are aloof" and don't say anything else. Just that. it's called a feeling messeage to a man and ive read alot about them through author rori raye who i highly recommend. what you are doing wrong is not expressing how you feel to him and justifying his behavior with all of the good things he does. what is crucial here is how you tell him. you say what i suggested above and thats it. i repeat THATS IT. just one sentence and you look into his eyes when you say it. if you add to it, you will dilute the message. if he cares about your feelings he will change his behavior then great, if not then you know your feelings are really not that important to him. sorry for the punctuation or lack thereof here. i am on a cell phone.

Posted by truecap
It's not really about his decisions/actions, it's about me recognizing this is who he is and this is the way it is. Am I willing to accept what is?

Posted by msmarilynmansonWow I love love love love love you right now. I'm gender fluid and able to communicate well with both sexes, as well as find myself in each of their shoes.. but wow, this advice is freaking spellbindingly perfect. Added you to favorite people. You're just wonderful.
i would tell him "it makes me feel bad when you are aloof" and don't say anything else. Just that. it's called a feeling messeage to a man and ive read alot about them through author rori raye who i highly recommend. what you are doing wrong is not expressing how you feel to him and justifying his behavior with all of the good things he does. what is crucial here is how you tell him. you say what i suggested above and thats it. i repeat THATS IT. just one sentence and you look into his eyes when you say it. if you add to it, you will dilute the message. if he cares about your feelings he will change his behavior then great, if not then you know your feelings are really not that important to him.


Posted by truecap
Just so yall know, I feel better now hearing what yall have to say. Also by having a plan and all. (afterall, I'm a cap and I need a plan. lol!)








Posted by Metoo
Hi Truecap, Merry Christmas!
I have had am Aqua male friend for MANY Years now, well over a decade.
It took him over 10 years to be able to trust and open up to me and stop the boyish hot/cold bs.
It was often difficult and strained our friendship to the point of breaking cause as a cap, I think we need "proof", like verbal affirmations.
I think you just need to hear him confirm you are the one for him.
Caps like to check, and recheck. Your also doing the cap evaluation thing and now your about to start your series of cap tests! love it!
The anxiety of not knowing with us cap girls is difficult.
Its not like its insecurity to need constant reasurance, its more so we like sound investments and like to protect our heart, we NEED to be sure, and we sometimes need the words.
I think this will work out.
A break might be really nice.
Give him time to evaluate the two of you, and you do the same.
Stop holding back girl. XOXO




Posted by truecap
Miha,
the aloofness happens occasionally in different ways. This is very minor and you guys will probably think I'm being over dramatic. But here goes. I got a generic merry Christmas text (like you send to 15 people) on Christmas Eve and responded warmly and with a question. No response. I tried to convince myself I was okay with that, although I'll admit it did bother me not to get a response. I think what bothered me most was when my kids texted him thank you's for the Christmas presents he got them, he didn't respond to them at all. No I'm glad you liked it, No You're welcome. I think they expected some kind of aknowledgement. I suppose it kind of hurt me that he didn't respond to their gratitude. (he gave them to me to give to them because they were at their dad's and he would be at work).
Looking back two days later, that scenario seems kind of silly to get hurt over. But it did hurt me. I think it's a build up of several other times he's been a little aloof. I'm not over-sensitive, but, Tiki may be right. I may have more invested emotionally than he does.
I know if I mention it, he will do better - for a while. I don't want him to change who he is. I do want him to be more conscious of how it affects others, though. I just need to decide if I'm willing to get used to it and learn not to take it personally. I also don't want to feel like I have to make excuses for him to myself either.

Posted by Metoo
Hi Truecap, Merry Christmas!
I have had am Aqua male friend for MANY Years now, well over a decade.
It took him over 10 years to be able to trust and open up to me and stop the boyish hot/cold bs.
It was often difficult and strained our friendship to the point of breaking cause as a cap, I think we need "proof", like verbal affirmations.
I think you just need to hear him confirm you are the one for him.
Caps like to check, and recheck. Your also doing the cap evaluation thing and now your about to start your series of cap tests! love it!
The anxiety of not knowing with us cap girls is difficult.
Its not like its insecurity to need constant reasurance, its more so we like sound investments and like to protect our heart, we NEED to be sure, and we sometimes need the words.
I think this will work out.
A break might be really nice.
Give him time to evaluate the two of you, and you do the same.
Stop holding back girl. XOXO



Posted by truecap
I've given it quite a bit thought. You may be absolutely right, Tiki! As are the others, too!
I think I'm feeling a little extra emotional the last few days, so maybe I am a little more sensitive than usual.


Posted by tiki33
if you come across too happy, too all in, too enthralled about him DOING his boyfriend duties which isn't all that special because he's doing what he's supposed to do for his girlfriend then you unknowingly come across as needy and desperate as if you never had a man do anything for you, MEN SENSE THIS desperation and they turn off, men are not emotionally stupid, they are feeling human beings just like us women so if your behavior aligns itself with those icky gut feelings he get from certain types of women he'll ignore you, become distant with you and then he'll start to FEEL anxiety over being in your life, some men are tricky, they are high strung emotionally, a small innocent move like initiating text messages can turn him off

Posted by CancerLeoDynamitePosted by tiki33
if you come across too happy, too all in, too enthralled about him DOING his boyfriend duties which isn't all that special because he's doing what he's supposed to do for his girlfriend then you unknowingly come across as needy and desperate as if you never had a man do anything for you, MEN SENSE THIS desperation and they turn off, men are not emotionally stupid, they are feeling human beings just like us women so if your behavior aligns itself with those icky gut feelings he get from certain types of women he'll ignore you, become distant with you and then he'll start to FEEL anxiety over being in your life, some men are tricky, they are high strung emotionally, a small innocent move like initiating text messages can turn him off
This makes me sad to read. Like we have to be these -perfectly- well balanced, functional, emotional FORTRESS OF EXTREME STRENGTH AND AMAZINGNESS or else we are doomed to be alone.
is it really that fucking complicated and tricky??
😢
- Hope everything works out for you truecap! You seem sooooo in love on these boards when you talk of your Aqua, it's adorable.
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Posted by mihaPosted by truecap
At what point is the dating stage no longer fragile?
- when it goes exclusive?
- when he says I love you?
- when you get engaged?
- when you get married?
none of the above....when you behave like a lunatic and he doesn't go away...he just waits for you to come to your senses 😄click to expand



Posted by truecap
At what point is the dating stage no longer fragile?
- when it goes exclusive?
- when he says I love you?
- when you get engaged?
- when you get married?
In general, I read all these books about dating and getting the man, getting the interest....when does it turn real?
Even if you keep doing these things to attract the man and draw him in, eventually you have to be yourself. If you are one that needs a lot of interaction during the day and you back off "to get his interest" then eventually you're going to want more contact. When does that happen? You get engaged? You get married then all of a sudden he's married someone else than who he thought?
I'm not arguing anyone's advice, there is some good solid advice here. But, that's just a point that needs clarification.



Posted by truecap
Thanks for clarifying that Tiki!! And thanks for knowing I wasn't arguing against what anyone said.
We all know deep inside what is attractive behavior and what isn't. Sometimes we just get caught up in what we want, we forget how we are perceived by the opposite sex. Insecurity, jealousy, etc. can take over our thoughts and we can become quite unattractive creatures. Goes for both men and women.
We need to be better about stepping out of ourselves and think if he said this... or did this... what would I think and feel about that behavior. Hell, we'd scare ourselves sometimes!! Thinking before doing/saying is a good thing.
We need to remember what makes someone attractive to us and try to act/do/say THAT (those things that we are attracted to). There are men that jump in too quick with the I love you's and jealous behavior and I think, geesh, back off already, I don't even KNOW the real you yet and I know you don't know the real me!
It's the old cliche that we want and appreciate more what's earned and remember to quit giving/acting so they don't have to earn it.
That's what I'm getting out of all of this. Correct me if I'm off track.

Posted by truecap
Update to the original post:
After he did the relationship status of us on facebook, I've decided I can deal with the aloofness. I have some reassurance that he is in this with me. I don't know how deep he's in it, but that will play out on its own. I just need to learn not to take that aloofness personally.
Besides, I've been told before that I can be aloof too, and I'm like what? who? ME?? lol!!



Posted by tiki33
"This is straight up truth. I was an early adopter of being authentic."
Do you know how rare you are? I so want to pick your brain to find out what made you choose a different path than the rest of the women out there, so many women choose to stay insecure and continue looking for love which only exasperates her feelings of low self worth and insecurity. Instead you took a different path and that's very mature choice on your part.
I'm not blowing smoke up your ass, I'm sincere, I'm wondering what made you choose to focus on evolving away from being "more normal" and instead chose to take the being authentic path, you so don't have to answer this on an open forum but I sure would like to hear your thoughts on it.
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So, what's the best way to confront him about it?
I'm pretty straight forward so I'm probably just going to say, remember this ______? Well, I can't explain why, but I was hurt by that. I figuring, if he cares, he will try to understand and do better. If he doesn't care, then our relationship won't survive.
Well, anyway, sorry to be a downer on Christmas, but thanks for allowing me to vent and for whatever comments you can toss my way. I don't really know what I'm asking for, maybe encouragement? If I need a reality slap, or a good shake, feel free!