Do you hate being labelled.

To my fellow aquas, do you hate being labelled or being told what you are and how you feel?

Yes it does. Not as much anymore now its more funny than anything. Just because i have this sign or i dress this way doesnt make that way. People are deeper than all that take the time to learn that for yourself.

Used to be bothered by it. Not anymore.

People will judge for what they see on the outside, not necessarily for who you really are. How else are they supposed to judge? Also suggesting that people should never judge you is kind of hopeless, isn't it? Everyone does it.

I dont mind it, youre only usually labelled by people who dont know you, i kinda like it because they havent worked you out.. not quite sure why i like it, maybe its my playful side and because it tells me alot about them, if you get what im saying??

well when you first learn about astrology you learn the very very basics. the sun, and everything that's supposed to represent your characteristics. It's very very general but well, when you start to read about the generalities you think...that doesn't sound like me. Then you go further and further...and yeah, you realize astrology is a study that takes years and years and years. Look at the astrologers who study for three or four decades...they're still learning new things.

Well to be labelled by our sun sign is one way to look at the question 😛 I've been told I'm an aqua true and true. Doesn't really phase me and yeah I think we're all just thinking "whatever, they don't really know me". What surprised me is meeting someone with more knowledge, this girl asked for my birthday and time, I felt a bit odd she was asking for these, gave it to her regardless and seconds later after being on her iphone she laughed and said "wow you must be an emotional wreck!"

I felt violated 😛

What about in general? I guess I've been running into a lot of misunderstandings lately. Some of my closer friends for the past year or two have completely misunderstood my intentions and even some coworkers. My Aqua friend however blunt she is got me completely wrong, told me to stop bullshitting and proceeded to tell me how I felt about a certain topic. Another one seems to think I'm a ladykiller that I love stringing girls along etc.

It normally doesn't deter me but I guess it IS getting to me that these things are being said behind my back. Question is do I defend myself or just not care?

I honestly hate it but there's nothing I can do to change what they WANT to feel or believe. Just feels like start of 2013 my sun/moon/rising have all been fighting for dominance. Not sure what to make of all of this.

@aquasnoz-"It normally doesn't deter me but I guess it IS getting to me that these things are being said behind my back. Question is do I defend myself or just not care?"

We can't control other people, only ourselves. Good vibes to you.

I'm assuming you wanted Aqua feedback. Forgive me if I jump in unsoliciited.

I get labeled as serious, unapproachable and standoffish. Once people get to know me, they tell me they are surprised that I am actually warm, open and with a goofy sense of humor. In some ways, I like that - people don't mess with me (especially at work), but, in other ways, I think its sad that I give that persona socially.

@aquasnoz - Just always be true to yourself.

Warning: Massive thinking and ranting day forgive me.

@EvilTurtle: I believe people have a deeper side too but see the catch22? I'm only offended because I think they don't understand me, I get indifferent because I'm judging them based on their judgement of me, which in turn makes me hypocritical.

@BlueSandCacoon: It does make it hopeless, should one be more assertive about it? That saying "never judge a book by its cover" makes you wonder is the goal to present yourself in a best possible light or surprise people when you're not your cover lol.

@rachel: Now this I'm interested in. I envy those who can say they are true to themselves because my brain runs in circles when I try to work out what I want and who I really am or who I want to be. I hear this is a common problem for Sun Square Moon people. How do you define yourself, I'll assume we all want to be 'good' people but that in itself is governed by our own morales as to what is good and what is bad so how do I know if I'm truly good?

@Bubbly: Guess they got the super analytical part right hahaaha. I'm with you for a fixed sign water is my dominant element do you ever find you change your mind or that it gets affected very easily by others?

@gucci: I agree in that perhaps they just don't understand me and I do find it amusing because some of this is coming from the people I considered 'close' friends. It just seems they can't grasp the concept of what I talk about sometimes, I can't blame them either because it seems so 'out there'. So in my head it goes like this. They are either too dumb and not on my level OR I'm way too fucked up in the head that I think about these things. For this reason I adore my new found fishy friend. God the conversations we've I'll tell you now, you'd think it was two insane people blabbering.

@lisa: This is exactly why I find it so interesting, suffice to say judging based on sun sign isn't much to go on but what that girl said about me being an emotional wreck after working out my charts is somewhat true. I think it shows from my reply so far lol.

@firewaterearthpiscesvenus: I'm going to start calling you FWEPV 😛 My acceptance so far is that yes I can't control other people but does it sound evil when I say like I feel like I could? You said it in the other thread about your own pisces venus this ability to be almost psychic and soak up energies I'll tell you what now I have my bouts of evil thoughts but that could be my moon or mars in pisces.

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@FWEPV: I read your thread in the pisces forums. I still feel uncomfortable to post there for some reason but listen to what you told me. Our ability to feel and empathise is a great gift use it to feel out if that person truly needs your help. Are they really better off with your help or do they need to learn it the hard way? etc these boundaries will become clearer.

@truecap: Scoprio rising? 😉 wink wink and yes mam! Still on an epic quest to find who I am but I shall inform everyone when I do. I think I'm almost there.... almost. Coulda sworn I said that 5 years ago.


I mean ultimately I do think there's goodness within everyone which is why I try to appeal to that side and maybe through that people can see my true intentions. My fishy seems to think I should change that. I say I'm accepting, she says I'm ignoring *shrugs* but it does make me wonder about how I present myself. Libra Rising here so enough said there.

The story behind this is from the place I use to work at. I'm a barista/bartender so I interact with a lot of people on a regular basis. My nature is to mirror people and how they act (I don't know why I do this sometimes) e.g. if they swear a lot, talks openly about sex, I'd do the same to make them feel comfortable.

Before I left I had to train a bunch of new recruits with my partner in crime: The virgal that I had a fling with. For some reason all the new recruits were girls *shrugs* guess the new boss likes eye candy to work with. Probably about a week after I finished up news came to me that apparently I am this guy that is nice to all the girls and attempts to bed them. Confronted the virgal and she said "It's what I think, you know what you want and you go for what you want, more guys should be like that". I did a massive facepalm but I can't argue with her there, she did have good intentions.

Good news is I don't work there anymore so I don't need to live with that 'reputation' but it REALLY REALLY does make me think twice about how I interact with other people and perhaps I should think about why people label me as such even if it's not me.

Okay sorry again, definitely braining on this a lot. Don't want to bore you guys to death with other things on my mind.

Why, yes, I do have a scorpio rising! 😉 😉

You're very insightful and I can tell you're really trying to figure things out. I still say just be yourself and be true to yourself and you'll be happier than trying to be something you're not. I promise, the older you get, the less you'll care what other people think. Not saying you do care what they think, but if you're a good person and honest, your reputation will stand on its own in a good way.

Posted by truecap
You're very insightful and I can tell you're really trying to figure things out. I still say just be yourself and be true to yourself and you'll be happier than trying to be something you're not. I promise, the older you get, the less you'll care what other people think. Not saying you do care what they think, but if you're a good person and honest, your reputation will stand on its own in a good way.

Duality is something I've always felt was conflicting when I think and being an aqua I love to think. Before I started looking into astrology I just felt something wasn't right, never knew to follow my heart or my head it's like a vicious cycle of leaning on one side or another.

I describe it much like my cat "I LOVE YOU! no I don't. NO I DO LOVE YOU!! No get away from me!" or perhaps the "I'm going to run full speed at a randomly selected room"

SLOWLY and very slowly I'm starting to accept this that this is who I am. I think it's working too. Much more satisfied these days but I still can't seem to switch off this annoying brain of mine.

Posted by rachelsnow12

How do I know if I am being a good person and true to myself. I know when I've "fudged" up with my behavior or have done something that isn't right, because I can feel it in my gut... it just doesn't sit right with me. I then do my best to move forward and learn from it.

I have had repeated lessons in my life, and have learned that you can't change people. I can tell someone I am not this, but I am that... until I am blue in the face, but what does it matter? People are who they are and think what they think. I can only strive to be the best person I can be, and at the end of the day that is all that matters. People will see that, if they choose to.

I guess I'm being too optimistic in thinking I can change other people's views through assertive action. What you said about being the best person did shed some new light, been thinking along the lines of good vs bad rather than just being the best so thankyou!

Maybe it's too naive to think there can be true mutual understanding. Well I guess this is why my friend always said I should've been born in the 60s.

With all good advise all ready given ill just offer this: sometimes being a mystery is a good thing so when they figure there is way more to than they assumed they will want to know more. Keep your head up.

@aquasnoz- I am struggling right now with the whole letting people just make their own mistakes. I have gotten a lot better but, it's a process. 🙂

Posted by firewaterearthpiscesvenus
@aquasnoz- I am struggling right now with the whole letting people just make their own mistakes. I have gotten a lot better but, it's a process. 🙂

Summon the aries within! lol! I don't know really! Think of it as helping them by helping them realise they must help themselves thus the greatest form of help ever! Or just a simple heart felt hug *hugs*. If you are hurt by loving, how can you channel any love when you don't feel it in yourself! Oh there I go again speaking in riddles.


Also @EvilTurtle: Thankyou so much! Again another obvious I forgot to think about *beats brain* I mean I love mystery myself I should remind my brain to think about my consciousness sometimes rather than being so vague on humanity as a whole then trying to apply it to myself.

No it doesnt bother me, i know who i really am and thats that end of story. It amuses me though when people think they know you based on what you choose to show them, a glimpse. Personally i have many faces/layers and you get to know only the one i choose to put on show...which means you dont really know me. Some have come pretty close though with the labeling, but what about face 2,3,99,100..? Lol

Posted by WaterCup
No it doesnt bother me, i know who i really am and thats that end of story. It amuses me though when people think they know you based on what you choose to show them, a glimpse. Personally i have many faces/layers and you get to know only the one i choose to put on show...which means you dont really know me. Some have come pretty close though with the labeling, but what about face 2,3,99,100..? Lol

Interesting point. When I say I mirror people it's something I can't help but I do wonder if it's this whole faces thing. Is it our natural defense mechanism at work? Are we just natural chameleons? But isn't that in itself sort of agrees to what I was saying? We are so multifaceted that in some way or form we find it offensive when people pin us down for something which makes it even more mind boggling, why all the faces? What is ME and just me.

Forgive me again with all the questioning guys this particular topic is just super interesting for me at the moment.

Watercup!!!! I've missed you!!!

*hugs*

i sometimes do that, mirror others and then my thoughts and ideas change (just like how they describe earth dominant in astrotheme) I'm just glad I am understanding astrology on a deeper level. It really helps perspective.

mirroring or blending is a natural human tatic. Sometimes for politics, peer preasure, or just self defence. One the great thing about being an aqua is to be great at blending or has i perfer being comfortable in any crowd. In fact do aquas blend at all or rather just rather to be accepted into any crowd without much effort at all?

^^i call it "finding common ground". I dont care about fitting in myself, but i like to fit others in...i dont like others to feel like outsiders. I talk and do things i know they like (and am comfortable with), i dont know how i do it, but i know how to do it.

Posted by Gandalf
That's how the conscious mind works my creepy little water bearers. It needs to catgorize and organize and make neat little "lists" for everything in order to not be overwhelmed. I don't blame it really because only the subconscious mind can know the real "you" in all your complexity.


For now we will stick with broad strokes........

It's a bit like that. The thought process and everything makes me ponder about all this, what's right and wrong, what's good and bad etc but fundamentally I think I've already accepted who I am or know who I am. It's weird.

it also depends on how comfortable i am. On an air moon day with air mars, it doesn't feel comfortable, as if the moon's energies are saying you cant emote today, it's blocked. I feel blockage.

At the end of the day.... There will always be something to ponder....
People will always be intrigued by what they don't understand, by what appears to be a mystery to them.
It can be annoying at times yes but this is looking at it negatively....
I believe you are being negative about it because of a lot negative experiences happened around you
being labeled.
Just like with anything in life.... try to look at the positive side of this natural tendency of others.
It's always great to be misunderstood, mysterious, etc. it makes you more interesting and appealing.
People label only to feel like they know who you are... they may even do it to see how you react to
confirm their suspicion.
I have dealt with my intentions being misunderstood a lot.
I have recently even had my intentions misunderstood...
I can relate in that what a lot of times is the most intriguing thing about you to the opposite sex or people in general,
is the thing we usually dislike the most.... being mysterious.... being misunderstood 😢
I workout in the gym and while I do it for a lot of reasons people will either label me a gym rat/gym fag or a jock lol
I dress in really nice clothes because I like to look nice and presentable - sometimes first impressions will matter a lot.
Since I dress nice I am generally assumed to be rich yet I drive an old beat up Toyota that has recently been smashed in
the back by an uninsured motorist!!!
People may even conclude Im dumb because they told me something when I wasn't paying attention and when I don't
know what they are talking about when they have my attention they just auto assume DUMB LOL

Just realize you can't please everyone and it's not healthy to dwell on it.

I really could care less for labels but enough to respond to this....... if someone says Im crazy well then I'm crazy, ill be the craziest mother fucker they have ever seen same goes with slut, fag, crystal meth user etc lol... ill see to it they don't see the truth...if all they wanna see is a label then i guess it just makes them vapid, common douche bags and thats not me dropping a label thats just science....ppl need to start asking how as opposed to why... the real fun is opening the lid on a can of worms...If they did have a look they would clearly see that I'm doing it my way, my way motherfuckers and thats the only way I do it, there i did it, now its done.