zade
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im losing my beautiful aqua boy and its my fault!
if aquas are comittment phobes why does he retreat when i do something like flirt with other people but he comes back when i tell him i miss him and love him? he has not me he loves me twice but in weird ways haha , just casually, like yeah, see ya, love you. But i tell him i love him on a deep level and i think that is what kills him becuase the night we got together we bonded deepply and it is only that bonding that has got us through a year of misery and frustration. He told his friend he got close to me, which i guess for an aqua is a big deal?
things are so bad now. I started a relationship with someone else and so did he. He does a lot of tit-for-tat things- like if i flirt with soemone he will try to do the same to hurt me back. he copies alot of things i do and even say. imitation+flattery? but he got with a girl who was very attractive and fun but not very intellectual or philosopical. she is nice we are kinda friends but she cant compete with me inteleectually. He told his friend he really liked her and one of our mutual friends. He never told anyone how much he liked me but most ppl knew from the way he looked at me.
My question is to aqua guys: Why does my boy keep his feeling about me as hidden as a 20yo can, but tells everyone how much he likes the pretty girl?
is it becuase he can express feeling about her becuase he doesnt really care for her but cant do the same about me in case he gets hurt? I am very outspoken and quite overbearing sometimes and i do feel alot of the time he can be intimidated by me.
OR....
did he just get sick of me and move on?
btw- he left the pretty gilr to come to a party i was at and he spent night with me. she was callnig his phone nonstop he would answer. he called her next morning to apologise and triend to get back with her but i told her what he did and she wont have him back. the time i saw him after that he told me he hated me but he stayed at the party even when his lift home left and he never pays for taxis if he can avoid it, but by then i was dead drunk!.
Personally, i think he loves me and he knows i love him but so much crap has gone on he thinks he might try to forget me. last night i spoke t him for the first time in 6 weeks (i stopped ringin him which in itself was a massive blow to him) and told him to come round to his cousins house where i was. he told me no. 1 hour later he was rinign and texing his cousin nonstop trying to come over! Is this aqua pride or have i lost him.
things are so bad now. I started a relationship with someone else and so did he. He does a lot of tit-for-tat things- like if i flirt with soemone he will try to do the same to hurt me back. he copies alot of things i do and even say. imitation+flattery? but he got with a girl who was very attractive and fun but not very intellectual or philosopical. she is nice we are kinda friends but she cant compete with me inteleectually. He told his friend he really liked her and one of our mutual friends. He never told anyone how much he liked me but most ppl knew from the way he looked at me.
My question is to aqua guys: Why does my boy keep his feeling about me as hidden as a 20yo can, but tells everyone how much he likes the pretty girl?
is it becuase he can express feeling about her becuase he doesnt really care for her but cant do the same about me in case he gets hurt? I am very outspoken and quite overbearing sometimes and i do feel alot of the time he can be intimidated by me.
OR....
did he just get sick of me and move on?
btw- he left the pretty gilr to come to a party i was at and he spent night with me. she was callnig his phone nonstop he would answer. he called her next morning to apologise and triend to get back with her but i told her what he did and she wont have him back. the time i saw him after that he told me he hated me but he stayed at the party even when his lift home left and he never pays for taxis if he can avoid it, but by then i was dead drunk!.
Personally, i think he loves me and he knows i love him but so much crap has gone on he thinks he might try to forget me. last night i spoke t him for the first time in 6 weeks (i stopped ringin him which in itself was a massive blow to him) and told him to come round to his cousins house where i was. he told me no. 1 hour later he was rinign and texing his cousin nonstop trying to come over! Is this aqua pride or have i lost him.
SORRY i know this islong but one other very important thing....when i found out he had tried to get back with the pretty girld after sleeping with me i went mad and sent him some emails with very cruel things. I was very angry and fed up with his games and his coldness (he is not always cold sometime he is very tender).
He knows how fiery my temper can be and how nasty i cant get so although he wasnt suprised im sure the nastiness of it afected him. i told him he was stupid and a monkey and th only thing he was good for is sex. he is showingnsings of forgiving me but i dont know how permanent that damage is. Aquas are suposed to think they are intellectually superiors most of the tim but in this instance the opposite is true. he will lead me into talking for hours and always defes to my intellectual opnion, so if i tell him he is stupid i think his react will be different to other aqua men for that reason.
aaaahh what i mess. I fully realise this is my fault. in many ways im like an aqua too. i try to make him jealous, i conceal my feelings whilsy trying to reveal them. I am an idiot. It feels like then bond we have is so deep on the soul level, but ego and pride is getting in the way. there is so much anger on both sides.
tell me i havent killed it becuase i love him so much!im thinking leave it for a month then try to fix it....but will he just move 0n by then
He knows how fiery my temper can be and how nasty i cant get so although he wasnt suprised im sure the nastiness of it afected him. i told him he was stupid and a monkey and th only thing he was good for is sex. he is showingnsings of forgiving me but i dont know how permanent that damage is. Aquas are suposed to think they are intellectually superiors most of the tim but in this instance the opposite is true. he will lead me into talking for hours and always defes to my intellectual opnion, so if i tell him he is stupid i think his react will be different to other aqua men for that reason.
aaaahh what i mess. I fully realise this is my fault. in many ways im like an aqua too. i try to make him jealous, i conceal my feelings whilsy trying to reveal them. I am an idiot. It feels like then bond we have is so deep on the soul level, but ego and pride is getting in the way. there is so much anger on both sides.
tell me i havent killed it becuase i love him so much!im thinking leave it for a month then try to fix it....but will he just move 0n by then
Starfish: i know what youre saying....it should be done at least. But wheni spoek to him last night he seemed ok, said he wasnt gonna come over, but knowing him as i do i think he was saying that out of pride...but he must have wante to come over becuase he was ringing and texting his cousin repeatedly saying what are we doing and should he come over...he know i was there cos i told him. how much can he hate me really?
the week before we were at an intimate party. he knew i was there and he came over. he walked into the the room, saw me and sstayed for a few minutes whist a guy was chatting me up then went into the kitchen and stayed there for an half an hour before coming back in. he must have felt terrible to have reacted like that and i feel sick for having hurt him but dont think he is inncent. from day one i have made my objections ti his cold uncommunicative behavious very clear. he knows how luch i care for him. I was nasty to him finally after 12 months of his bullbutter. and he was the one who came to see me when he had a girlfriend. i dodnt know he was with her.
part of e thins he deserves it. part of me feels bad becuase i am so much older than him i should be mature and just cut him off.
the week before we were at an intimate party. he knew i was there and he came over. he walked into the the room, saw me and sstayed for a few minutes whist a guy was chatting me up then went into the kitchen and stayed there for an half an hour before coming back in. he must have felt terrible to have reacted like that and i feel sick for having hurt him but dont think he is inncent. from day one i have made my objections ti his cold uncommunicative behavious very clear. he knows how luch i care for him. I was nasty to him finally after 12 months of his bullbutter. and he was the one who came to see me when he had a girlfriend. i dodnt know he was with her.
part of e thins he deserves it. part of me feels bad becuase i am so much older than him i should be mature and just cut him off.
So basically you know what you are doing yet you continue to do it? And the funniest part is that you seem to acknowledge this and wonder why this guy isn't bothering? As an Aquarius myself [I cannot speak for every Aquarius] but I will say I dislike mind games entirely, give it to me straight and stop messing about. It irritates me, it creates confusion between both parties and then things end up becoming incredibly painful.
If you love someone then why are you sleeping with other guys? I mean sure you are being honest in telling him but I myself would wonder why you are telling me this, seems like you maybe just want to push him further away. Seems like maybe you need to grow up a bit, because if you want him to commit then you need to stop sending out mixed signals, and stop playing games entirely, this isn't a star sign thing at all, what you are doing would push most men away in my opinion. It's not just an Aquarius thing at all. I think some people simply don't understand what love is, a lot of people throw the word about but seem to be complete hypocrites about it.
The fact that he likes another girl indicates that he may have moved on. Regardless of whether he loves you it doesn't mean he will come back, especially if he weighs up the pros and cons of what you can actually offer him. You've admitted that this is your fault so you can only blame yourself for him walking away and distancing himself.
He has also said he hated you, which for me is an incredible for any person to say. I've never hated anyone, and if I did I doubt I would even tell them, unless it was pure hatred. I think regardless of being able to compete intellectually I wouldn't personally want someone playing games constantly, trying to make me jealous and all this other rubbish. Relationships are hard enough without the person trying to constantly mess your mind up.
You need to change your whole approach in my eyes, you need to stop the games, stop sending out mixed signals. Personally I think it's too late anyways, he doesn't seem to be keeping regular contact and I know myself that I keep regular contact with someone that I like or want to be with. He's likely to have moved on by now, and the nasty emails haven't helped the situation either.
If you love someone then why are you sleeping with other guys? I mean sure you are being honest in telling him but I myself would wonder why you are telling me this, seems like you maybe just want to push him further away. Seems like maybe you need to grow up a bit, because if you want him to commit then you need to stop sending out mixed signals, and stop playing games entirely, this isn't a star sign thing at all, what you are doing would push most men away in my opinion. It's not just an Aquarius thing at all. I think some people simply don't understand what love is, a lot of people throw the word about but seem to be complete hypocrites about it.
The fact that he likes another girl indicates that he may have moved on. Regardless of whether he loves you it doesn't mean he will come back, especially if he weighs up the pros and cons of what you can actually offer him. You've admitted that this is your fault so you can only blame yourself for him walking away and distancing himself.
He has also said he hated you, which for me is an incredible for any person to say. I've never hated anyone, and if I did I doubt I would even tell them, unless it was pure hatred. I think regardless of being able to compete intellectually I wouldn't personally want someone playing games constantly, trying to make me jealous and all this other rubbish. Relationships are hard enough without the person trying to constantly mess your mind up.
You need to change your whole approach in my eyes, you need to stop the games, stop sending out mixed signals. Personally I think it's too late anyways, he doesn't seem to be keeping regular contact and I know myself that I keep regular contact with someone that I like or want to be with. He's likely to have moved on by now, and the nasty emails haven't helped the situation either.
Again, i agree with what your saying. I am the older one i should be wiser. its diffiult becuase we are so different, its hard for me to openly be with someone who is 10 yrs younger than me but ican get over that.
I havent purposely tried to play mind games with him, but its the way things just happen and he plays mind games as well. Look how he treated that poor girl: he left her to come and see me. he told her he was going to the shop and coming back in 20 minutes. he had no intention of going back. she must have called him 20 times and sent him 20 texts messages. he either answered them saying "im round the corner, be there in 2 minutes" when he was 10 miles away. or he ignored her calls.
when he met me he had a grilfriend who he lied to to come and see me. I never trusted him fully from day one which i why i tied to keep arms lenght between us, telling him we are friends and about me being with other guys. He saw other girls to. but both of us wanted each other.
He told me he hated me, but the next day we were speaking on the phone he came round to my friend house where i was but obviously things were frosty, but civil and like i said, although he told me last night he wasnt going to come over to my friend house where i was, an hour later he is ringing her phone down, trying to come over...do you see what i mean? who is playing games? I told him striaght after 6 weeks silence i wanted to see him. It is always me with the effing olive branch thats part of why i got so angry with himand sent theemails. and yes, star signs nothing to do withit- would you not be furious if someone came round to see you, ttrunked you then tried to get back with their boyfrined the next day?
The question i ask is that, whilst i acknowledge the part i have played in this mess, what i want to know is whther the boy being an aqua has been telling pleple how much he likes this girl becuase he does like her (an i understand that aquas would usually do the oposite) or simply cos he does like her, and in reverse, did he keep his feeling for me concealed from others becuase they were scaring him or becuase he didnt have them?
I havent purposely tried to play mind games with him, but its the way things just happen and he plays mind games as well. Look how he treated that poor girl: he left her to come and see me. he told her he was going to the shop and coming back in 20 minutes. he had no intention of going back. she must have called him 20 times and sent him 20 texts messages. he either answered them saying "im round the corner, be there in 2 minutes" when he was 10 miles away. or he ignored her calls.
when he met me he had a grilfriend who he lied to to come and see me. I never trusted him fully from day one which i why i tied to keep arms lenght between us, telling him we are friends and about me being with other guys. He saw other girls to. but both of us wanted each other.
He told me he hated me, but the next day we were speaking on the phone he came round to my friend house where i was but obviously things were frosty, but civil and like i said, although he told me last night he wasnt going to come over to my friend house where i was, an hour later he is ringing her phone down, trying to come over...do you see what i mean? who is playing games? I told him striaght after 6 weeks silence i wanted to see him. It is always me with the effing olive branch thats part of why i got so angry with himand sent theemails. and yes, star signs nothing to do withit- would you not be furious if someone came round to see you, ttrunked you then tried to get back with their boyfrined the next day?
The question i ask is that, whilst i acknowledge the part i have played in this mess, what i want to know is whther the boy being an aqua has been telling pleple how much he likes this girl becuase he does like her (an i understand that aquas would usually do the oposite) or simply cos he does like her, and in reverse, did he keep his feeling for me concealed from others becuase they were scaring him or becuase he didnt have them?
i havent made the last para clear- i mean if he tell ppl he likes her, is it becuase he can afford to do so, becuase he doesnt really, well not on a deep level any way, but with me who he has at least in the past had very deep feelings for which he is often visibly crippled by, he wont tell antyone anything about me becuase its too reall and big and scary?
i hope that makes sense!
i hope that makes sense!
I'm an Aquarian, and if anyone called ME stupid, a monkey, and said I was good for nothing but sex do you know what I'd tell them? Fine. I'll just go hang out with my other stupid (monkey-Aqua?) friends and we'll all have sex and laugh and have a GREAT time together because YOU won't be there! If you're so smart with all your talk of how intellectual and philosophical you are, then why is it that YOU are the one who's standing there all alone with no one to give a sh*t about you? I say right on to that Aqua guy...he should leave you to sit and ponder whether it's the intellect or just being a "good" person that is more important/attractive. It's obvious to this "brutally honest" Aqua that you have no clue how to control that "evil" twin that is such an obvious part of who you are as a Gemini. Better work on that one, perhaps you could take another class? OMG, did I just say all that out loud? Oh well.
He never really treated me back just noncommunicative and dissapearing for day only to return all chirpy like nothing happened.
And i told him so many times i loved him and i would cut him off if he carried on with his sulking dissapeanaces. I know what you are saying but i have not evidently put things across well. Like i said, until the nastly emails whch was when i really lost my temper finally after a year, prior to that i was always me runnig after him making him feel secure. and like i said, when i told him i loved him he always ended the silence and we talked for hours and hours all happy and nice... it wasnt all doom and gloom.
the problem is that he doesnt seem to think that i take him seriously to be with him, becuase he is insecure and no amount of lovely dovey chats that i give him seems to fix it. i tell him contantly he is the most beuastiful one and i love him from way deep in my soul. he cant say those things back to me but he shows love in different ways. but becuase he is insecure, he treats me frostily and wont speak to me in public like he cant let anyone see that he even likes me! even though he has travelled across the city dragging his pals with him just becuase im there! and that really frustrates me. i am 20% guilty in this situation he is more like 80% - and yes i know he is young- which is why i took 12 months for me to finally lose my temper with him.
from what ive read in these thread so far is how you have to be patient with aquas and how they get scared of their feelings. i have know this from day one of meeting him but not becuase of zodiac signs- i only got into them like a few weeks ago! reading about aquas on this site makes a lot of sense. I have been infinately patient with him, but i have also done what i have done to protect myself. so stop bashing me please!
And i told him so many times i loved him and i would cut him off if he carried on with his sulking dissapeanaces. I know what you are saying but i have not evidently put things across well. Like i said, until the nastly emails whch was when i really lost my temper finally after a year, prior to that i was always me runnig after him making him feel secure. and like i said, when i told him i loved him he always ended the silence and we talked for hours and hours all happy and nice... it wasnt all doom and gloom.
the problem is that he doesnt seem to think that i take him seriously to be with him, becuase he is insecure and no amount of lovely dovey chats that i give him seems to fix it. i tell him contantly he is the most beuastiful one and i love him from way deep in my soul. he cant say those things back to me but he shows love in different ways. but becuase he is insecure, he treats me frostily and wont speak to me in public like he cant let anyone see that he even likes me! even though he has travelled across the city dragging his pals with him just becuase im there! and that really frustrates me. i am 20% guilty in this situation he is more like 80% - and yes i know he is young- which is why i took 12 months for me to finally lose my temper with him.
from what ive read in these thread so far is how you have to be patient with aquas and how they get scared of their feelings. i have know this from day one of meeting him but not becuase of zodiac signs- i only got into them like a few weeks ago! reading about aquas on this site makes a lot of sense. I have been infinately patient with him, but i have also done what i have done to protect myself. so stop bashing me please!
Chill out luna baby.
excuse my typos:
Lunababy:
if someone called me a monkey and i was only good for sex, the first thing i would think is...what have i done to deserve these comments?
Clearly, "intellectual and philopshical" poeple like me (as you so contemptuosly put it) still do seem to have a point where their patience runs out. do you not also? In my case as i have said a few times now, it took 12 months of constantly swallowing my pride, turning the other cheek and rising above his cold and unemptional behavious (beuase i understood where they came from and i felt for him) before i EVENTUALLY cracked. And i crakced becuase he fu***ed me then tried to get back with the ditzzy girl.
i really dont think i am that evil. I am slightly concenred however that you see to disagreee with me so vehemently.
Perhaps we can go class together....anger management hahaha
peace people
Lunababy:
if someone called me a monkey and i was only good for sex, the first thing i would think is...what have i done to deserve these comments?
Clearly, "intellectual and philopshical" poeple like me (as you so contemptuosly put it) still do seem to have a point where their patience runs out. do you not also? In my case as i have said a few times now, it took 12 months of constantly swallowing my pride, turning the other cheek and rising above his cold and unemptional behavious (beuase i understood where they came from and i felt for him) before i EVENTUALLY cracked. And i crakced becuase he fu***ed me then tried to get back with the ditzzy girl.
i really dont think i am that evil. I am slightly concenred however that you see to disagreee with me so vehemently.
Perhaps we can go class together....anger management hahaha
peace people
How can an Aqua "chill out" when I see you laughing thru what is very obviously NOT something viewed as funny to that younger Aqua and the "pretty girl" that YOU so very cruelly had to crush by tattling about her bf's little thing w/you? And for someone who's supposed to be the older and wiser one in the relationship, I sure did not see ANY signs of you being a responsible adult by the childish things you felt necessary to do so things would go YOUR way. And if you feel the need to "fix it" then perhaps it's not supposed to be; I'd never try to "fix" another human being in my life unless they were physically injured and needed medical attention. Perhaps you should just "chill" yourself, sit back and really think about what a disaster this whole thing has been since day one. If it's taken you 12 months to get to this point where things are now worse instead of better, don't you think that your efforts, as well as his, would be best served by just going your separate ways and finding what it is that each of you as individuals really needs instead of wasting time trying to fix the unfixable? Not bashing, just calling it like I see it, and like I told you I'm just being "brutally honest". We all post here asking other's opinions and for their insight, if that's not what you really want, then why post?
Enjoy the anger management classes. I learned years ago when I FINALLY rid myself of the "evil" twin Gemini that I had in my life...life's too short to waste time with things that are not worth my time, effort, or breath. I'm not going to spend my life bashing people gf, just trying to HELP them see things from a very crystal clear view like we Aquas have from SO many years of studying people-we call it "people watching" and it's an Aqua favorite past-time. I suggest you move on to someone else who is going to be more of what YOU WANT, instead of trying to make someone fit that mold, it'll never happen, especially not with an Aqua (and one who's so young). We lead, we do NOT follow and conform-just a fact, ask any of us. I really hope you have a good life, but just remember it's only going to be as good as you want it to be. Aren't you ready for a change? Aren't you ready to just be "happy"? If you say yes, then just go do it...don't ask people about something that's obviously a dead horse that you can't revive no matter how much you wish, or beat on it. See, like I said I just call it like I see it. Sorry if it hurts, but it IS the truth.
The whole intellectual thing isn't really important though as I said earlier, I mean if you are smart enough and can see your shortcomings then why persist with them? At the end of the day in any relationship there will always be flaws, and each person will have faults, but if someones faults outweigh their pros/good parts then you are likely to walk away.
Again, I doubt this girl is that thick or unable to compete on that level. If she isn't causing him the problems that you are then she is likely to be well ahead of you on his list of women that he wants to be with. There are two sides to every story, and we are not bashing you, we are merely analyzing what you've said and in a way trying to help you. This guy is hardly whiter than white but going on what you've been saying then this situation just seems confusing for so many reasons.
I have some sympathy, such as you "chasing" him (and I use those words lightly) around, and offering the olive branch. But also as I said before, you telling him that you are having sex with other men, or flirting with them, is really causing friction between you. This seems to be a thing that some girls do to guys they are going out with, or are interested in, I don't know why girls do it, but I think some do it for the attention more than anything else, but doing it to an Aquarius is unlikely to make us jealous, we may feel a tad bit annoyed but we won't show it and if anything we'll think you are just being pathetic and immature.
Girls who try to make me jealous always end up failing anyway, it's unlikely that I'll ever show it or sometimes ever feel it. I just find it a really silly thing to do and to be honest jealousy is a horrible thing in my eyes, it's just not needed.
The age gap must also be difficult, I mean there are ten years between you, he's still very young and you are heading into your 30's now, so surely you as a woman are looking to now settle down, have a family and do various other things? Maybe I am wrong there but I'd hazard a guess that is what you want. He is 20 years old, very young and to be honest I don't think he wants to commit himself to this, it's a big step at that age and the fact is that he may be having sex with you but if you are offering it to him easily then he won't exactly say no to it (regardless of having a girlfriend).
I would say walk away from it all, the situation is just way too confusing.
Again, I doubt this girl is that thick or unable to compete on that level. If she isn't causing him the problems that you are then she is likely to be well ahead of you on his list of women that he wants to be with. There are two sides to every story, and we are not bashing you, we are merely analyzing what you've said and in a way trying to help you. This guy is hardly whiter than white but going on what you've been saying then this situation just seems confusing for so many reasons.
I have some sympathy, such as you "chasing" him (and I use those words lightly) around, and offering the olive branch. But also as I said before, you telling him that you are having sex with other men, or flirting with them, is really causing friction between you. This seems to be a thing that some girls do to guys they are going out with, or are interested in, I don't know why girls do it, but I think some do it for the attention more than anything else, but doing it to an Aquarius is unlikely to make us jealous, we may feel a tad bit annoyed but we won't show it and if anything we'll think you are just being pathetic and immature.
Girls who try to make me jealous always end up failing anyway, it's unlikely that I'll ever show it or sometimes ever feel it. I just find it a really silly thing to do and to be honest jealousy is a horrible thing in my eyes, it's just not needed.
The age gap must also be difficult, I mean there are ten years between you, he's still very young and you are heading into your 30's now, so surely you as a woman are looking to now settle down, have a family and do various other things? Maybe I am wrong there but I'd hazard a guess that is what you want. He is 20 years old, very young and to be honest I don't think he wants to commit himself to this, it's a big step at that age and the fact is that he may be having sex with you but if you are offering it to him easily then he won't exactly say no to it (regardless of having a girlfriend).
I would say walk away from it all, the situation is just way too confusing.
Lunababy.
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent.
The second reference i made to my intellect was with regards to the aqua trait (that many many ppl on this site have made comment on)-that is, aquas are deeply intellectual, they value intellect over looks and are stubborn always thinking they are right intellectually. I wanted to point out that in this particular case, it was not true- he shows deference to my opnions always becuase of the massive education difference. This is despite that i treat him equally on that level & always his opinion (incidentally, i do not confuse intellect with education. you can educate a monkey dont mean it will ever be clever. my boy is clever and understands what im talking about no matter if its qantuam mechanics, NLP or how to achieve a natural looking fake tan- and that is why i stick with him. And yes, i abhorr stupiditiy, but not a lack of education. Intelligence is natural, education is circumstantial).
the last reference i made to my intellect is in repect of the pretty girl. My boy has told me enough times he starves for my conversation, that no one else is intellectually stimulating blah blah blah and we talk about anyhting and everything for hours. I was trying to illustrate the differences between me and her. she is more attractive than me, but she is vacuous. Im am less attractive, but intellectual & philopshical. Again, how terrible am i for simply pointing this objectively?
You, my friend cannot be an aquarian, as i understand they think logically and rationally, and you are clearly letting emotions of bitterness and envy cloud your judgement. This is alarming.
as my question was addressed to aqua males (but also anyone else really- as long as they can be objective and constructive in their criticism, as opposed to being petty and spiteful) as as you are neither, your opinion is worht nothing to me, however elegantly you put it.
I will not retort to your comment about no one liking me for reasons that should be obvious, even to you. (but then again, maybe you really are as idiotic as it seems, so here is a hint: look in the mirror)
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent.
The second reference i made to my intellect was with regards to the aqua trait (that many many ppl on this site have made comment on)-that is, aquas are deeply intellectual, they value intellect over looks and are stubborn always thinking they are right intellectually. I wanted to point out that in this particular case, it was not true- he shows deference to my opnions always becuase of the massive education difference. This is despite that i treat him equally on that level & always his opinion (incidentally, i do not confuse intellect with education. you can educate a monkey dont mean it will ever be clever. my boy is clever and understands what im talking about no matter if its qantuam mechanics, NLP or how to achieve a natural looking fake tan- and that is why i stick with him. And yes, i abhorr stupiditiy, but not a lack of education. Intelligence is natural, education is circumstantial).
the last reference i made to my intellect is in repect of the pretty girl. My boy has told me enough times he starves for my conversation, that no one else is intellectually stimulating blah blah blah and we talk about anyhting and everything for hours. I was trying to illustrate the differences between me and her. she is more attractive than me, but she is vacuous. Im am less attractive, but intellectual & philopshical. Again, how terrible am i for simply pointing this objectively?
You, my friend cannot be an aquarian, as i understand they think logically and rationally, and you are clearly letting emotions of bitterness and envy cloud your judgement. This is alarming.
as my question was addressed to aqua males (but also anyone else really- as long as they can be objective and constructive in their criticism, as opposed to being petty and spiteful) as as you are neither, your opinion is worht nothing to me, however elegantly you put it.
I will not retort to your comment about no one liking me for reasons that should be obvious, even to you. (but then again, maybe you really are as idiotic as it seems, so here is a hint: look in the mirror)
Lunababy.
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent.
The second reference i made to my intellect was with regards to the aqua trait (that many many ppl on this site have made comment on)-that is, aquas are deeply intellectual, they value intellect over looks and are stubborn always thinking they are right intellectually. I wanted to point out that in this particular case, it was not true- he shows deference to my opnions always becuase of the massive education difference. This is despite that i treat him equally on that level & always his opinion (incidentally, i do not confuse intellect with education. you can educate a monkey dont mean it will ever be clever. my boy is clever and understands what im talking about no matter if its qantuam mechanics, NLP or how to achieve a natural looking fake tan- and that is why i stick with him. And yes, i abhorr stupiditiy, but not a lack of education. Intelligence is natural, education is circumstantial).
the last reference i made to my intellect is in repect of the pretty girl. My boy has told me enough times he starves for my conversation, that no one else is intellectually stimulating blah blah blah and we talk about anyhting and everything for hours. I was trying to illustrate the differences between me and her. she is more attractive than me, but she is vacuous. Im am less attractive, but intellectual & philopshical. Again, how terrible am i for simply pointing this objectively?
You, my friend cannot be an aquarian, as i understand they think logically and rationally, and you are clearly letting emotions of bitterness and envy cloud your judgement. This is alarming.
as my question was addressed to aqua males (but also anyone else really- as long as they can be objective and constructive in their criticism, as opposed to being petty and spiteful) as as you are neither, your opinion is worht nothing to me, however elegantly you put it.
I will not retort to your comment about no one liking me for reasons that should be obvious, even to you. (but then again, maybe you really are as idiotic as it seems, so here is a hint: look in the mirror)
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent.
The second reference i made to my intellect was with regards to the aqua trait (that many many ppl on this site have made comment on)-that is, aquas are deeply intellectual, they value intellect over looks and are stubborn always thinking they are right intellectually. I wanted to point out that in this particular case, it was not true- he shows deference to my opnions always becuase of the massive education difference. This is despite that i treat him equally on that level & always his opinion (incidentally, i do not confuse intellect with education. you can educate a monkey dont mean it will ever be clever. my boy is clever and understands what im talking about no matter if its qantuam mechanics, NLP or how to achieve a natural looking fake tan- and that is why i stick with him. And yes, i abhorr stupiditiy, but not a lack of education. Intelligence is natural, education is circumstantial).
the last reference i made to my intellect is in repect of the pretty girl. My boy has told me enough times he starves for my conversation, that no one else is intellectually stimulating blah blah blah and we talk about anyhting and everything for hours. I was trying to illustrate the differences between me and her. she is more attractive than me, but she is vacuous. Im am less attractive, but intellectual & philopshical. Again, how terrible am i for simply pointing this objectively?
You, my friend cannot be an aquarian, as i understand they think logically and rationally, and you are clearly letting emotions of bitterness and envy cloud your judgement. This is alarming.
as my question was addressed to aqua males (but also anyone else really- as long as they can be objective and constructive in their criticism, as opposed to being petty and spiteful) as as you are neither, your opinion is worht nothing to me, however elegantly you put it.
I will not retort to your comment about no one liking me for reasons that should be obvious, even to you. (but then again, maybe you really are as idiotic as it seems, so here is a hint: look in the mirror)
Lunababy: btw, i was being sarcastic when i said "elegantly". Sorry i ought to have made that more obvious to you.
You express your self crudely and with malice.
You express your self crudely and with malice.
Posted by Ike
Is it really suprising that he hates her ? I mean she seems like a nasty elitist scum with her comments on her "intellectual power" . she is probably the kind of person who looks down on people with her nose up in the air mocking them , instead of lending a hand to some one . lol i don't even fully know this person but i already hate her haha .
True.
But I don't really know this woman so I'll pass judgment, either way she seems to understand what shes doing wrong but can she fix this situation? I'm very doubtful but anything is possible in life, I just don't think it's going to be easy for her and this guy seems confused as to who he wants.
I think the intellectual thing isn't important because that's not the issue here at all, it's other things - such as flirting with other guys, having sex with them and then telling this guy. It's very hard to understand why this girl is doing this and then wondering why he's so distant on her.
And yeah people who look down on others are always going to end up being disliked, because that's not the right thing to do lol
Ike:
im a criminal defence barrister. I also do human rights and child abuse cases. helping disadvantaged ppl is what i have dedicated the last 15 years of my life toward. what do you do to help otehrs may i ask?
I look down my nose at anyone, as i was born in one of the poorest slums of Kenya. I worked hrd to get where i am, and i should not have to conceal my acheivements from anyone, especially not venomous morons like you. it wil take more than an inane and vindictive little pratt like you to change that.
I dont hate you. perhaps you need to engage in a little sexual self stimulation to relieve some of that pent up anger you seem to harbour.
im a criminal defence barrister. I also do human rights and child abuse cases. helping disadvantaged ppl is what i have dedicated the last 15 years of my life toward. what do you do to help otehrs may i ask?
I look down my nose at anyone, as i was born in one of the poorest slums of Kenya. I worked hrd to get where i am, and i should not have to conceal my acheivements from anyone, especially not venomous morons like you. it wil take more than an inane and vindictive little pratt like you to change that.
I dont hate you. perhaps you need to engage in a little sexual self stimulation to relieve some of that pent up anger you seem to harbour.
I don't NEED to be elegant in the way I state my opinions, just like I don't need to list all my scholastic achievements to prove my intelligence. What I DO is I do life. I love having the pleasure of meeting lots of people who are truly "GOOD" people, and will NEVER make myself out to be too intelligent or too good for anyone that crosses my path, because as an Aqua I believe that we are all equal, UNTIL we prove otherwise. I rest my case. Like I said before, not worth my time, effort or breath; I see others here seem to agree with me. Hmmmmm... Have a GREAT day!!! 🙂
Oh for goodness sake you pple are ridiculous. Is its so bad i made refence to my education? i was trying to apint the scene!!
I admit i have treated the boy badly and that is why i came for advice. But no one seems to be very interested in that. Lets all bash the gilr who thinks she is clever, becuase clearly we all feel insecure.
Is that what is really going on here? i didnt like to say, but it seems as tho its not me who has the superiority complex but its you has an inferiority complex. (but thats just the psychologist in me talking haha, im so clever arent I—)
No, I dont look donw my nose at anyone. why would i be with the boy if that is how i am? THINK ABOUT IT!
The nastiness that is spilling out of most of you is a relfection on YOU and not on me. Rergardless of what you say, you must know this is true... whether any of you will admit it or not. but then you are aquas. course you wont. you are alway right, right?
Bull effing s88t you lot are right. nasty and vindictive more like. I have never seem such an unbridled spilling out of malice: look deeply into yourselves and how you have reacted.
i will take my giant intellect which i am obviously so proud of and value above all else, elsewhere.
I hope you all find happiness in your lives.
BTW, i just got an email from the boys cousin. He is having a barbeque on sunday and am i coming? Seems my boy is too proud to invite me, as i thought, but has asked his cousin to do so on his behalf. Seems after all, your advice was rubbish.
Farewell people
I admit i have treated the boy badly and that is why i came for advice. But no one seems to be very interested in that. Lets all bash the gilr who thinks she is clever, becuase clearly we all feel insecure.
Is that what is really going on here? i didnt like to say, but it seems as tho its not me who has the superiority complex but its you has an inferiority complex. (but thats just the psychologist in me talking haha, im so clever arent I—)
No, I dont look donw my nose at anyone. why would i be with the boy if that is how i am? THINK ABOUT IT!
The nastiness that is spilling out of most of you is a relfection on YOU and not on me. Rergardless of what you say, you must know this is true... whether any of you will admit it or not. but then you are aquas. course you wont. you are alway right, right?
Bull effing s88t you lot are right. nasty and vindictive more like. I have never seem such an unbridled spilling out of malice: look deeply into yourselves and how you have reacted.
i will take my giant intellect which i am obviously so proud of and value above all else, elsewhere.
I hope you all find happiness in your lives.
BTW, i just got an email from the boys cousin. He is having a barbeque on sunday and am i coming? Seems my boy is too proud to invite me, as i thought, but has asked his cousin to do so on his behalf. Seems after all, your advice was rubbish.
Farewell people
Keepin it real eh Ike? Hypocrite and loser.
I dont think i have ever met anyone as pathetic as you Ike.
Take care of yourself, cos with your attitude, i cant imagine anyone else will ever want to.
Take care of yourself, cos with your attitude, i cant imagine anyone else will ever want to.
"BTW, i just got an email from the boys cousin. He is having a barbeque on sunday and am i coming? Seems my boy is too proud to invite me, as i thought, but has asked his cousin to do so on his behalf. Seems after all, your advice was rubbish."
Jumping to conclusions, maybe he's cousin asked you and in fact the "boy" as you refer to him seeing as he isn't yet a man in your eyes probably has no clue that you are going... Also just because you are going to a barbeque it doesn't mean that everything is alright, you complain that he makes things seem alright all the time when they aren't and yet you are doing it yourself.
"Oh for goodness sake you pple are ridiculous. Is its so bad i made refence to my education? i was trying to apint the scene!!"
What does education have to do with a relationship? Seems like you are showing off?
"Bull effing s88t you lot are right. nasty and vindictive more like. I have never seem such an unbridled spilling out of malice: look deeply into yourselves and how you have reacted."
Said the girl who sent nasty emails.
Why ask for advice and then get angry because people tell you straight? Some of us are trying to help you see the sense here but you seem to have your own opinion and at times you've seemed open to the other replies but now you seem to be getting all bitchy towards some of us who have offered advice. Either way do what you like, but don't come on here asking for advice and then basically having a go at people for offering it.
If you wish to persist with something that isn't clearly working then go for it, or if you wish to move on and find someone else and probably be happier then go for that. Either way it's up to you in the end but sometimes hearing advice can be helpful, it gives you another perspective on the issue.
Jumping to conclusions, maybe he's cousin asked you and in fact the "boy" as you refer to him seeing as he isn't yet a man in your eyes probably has no clue that you are going... Also just because you are going to a barbeque it doesn't mean that everything is alright, you complain that he makes things seem alright all the time when they aren't and yet you are doing it yourself.
"Oh for goodness sake you pple are ridiculous. Is its so bad i made refence to my education? i was trying to apint the scene!!"
What does education have to do with a relationship? Seems like you are showing off?
"Bull effing s88t you lot are right. nasty and vindictive more like. I have never seem such an unbridled spilling out of malice: look deeply into yourselves and how you have reacted."
Said the girl who sent nasty emails.
Why ask for advice and then get angry because people tell you straight? Some of us are trying to help you see the sense here but you seem to have your own opinion and at times you've seemed open to the other replies but now you seem to be getting all bitchy towards some of us who have offered advice. Either way do what you like, but don't come on here asking for advice and then basically having a go at people for offering it.
If you wish to persist with something that isn't clearly working then go for it, or if you wish to move on and find someone else and probably be happier then go for that. Either way it's up to you in the end but sometimes hearing advice can be helpful, it gives you another perspective on the issue.
Hey guys I think we intellectually challenged Aquas should just all go off together and have some fun...what you think? Personally I'm thinking a little bit of "people watching" to cure us of our inferiority complexes, not to mention our insecurity, nastiness, and ridiculously vindictive ways. Would anyone care to join this little Aqua chick for some truly intellectually stimulating conversation? 😛
Ike
i sent a private message to luna baby apologising. the message i posted on page 2 beginning
"Lunababy.
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent."
....was actually meant for you. I thought she had sent me the nasty message about hating me and my super powers or whaever deraged nonsense it was spilling out of you a**!
stop telling me to go away...i wont becuase im feeling generally frustrated and im getting a rise over telling you what a riduculous and hypocritical like twerp you are. i know its difficult for you, as clearly you lack the vocabulary you need to be able to argue with me sensibly. I should really pic on someone my own "intellectual size" boom boom!! get it? hahaha you idiot.
Like i said, you are vindictive and very stupid little pratt!
xxx
i sent a private message to luna baby apologising. the message i posted on page 2 beginning
"Lunababy.
my comments about my intellect were included in the first paragraph mainly to illustrate the differences that exist btween me and him. im 10 yrs older, and if i dare say so, i am well educated- Bsc, MA and PhD. To say so is not arrogance, i am stating fact. I also said, it doesnt matter to me becuase i love him regardless of his educational acheivements. to me he is beuatiful and intelligent."
....was actually meant for you. I thought she had sent me the nasty message about hating me and my super powers or whaever deraged nonsense it was spilling out of you a**!
stop telling me to go away...i wont becuase im feeling generally frustrated and im getting a rise over telling you what a riduculous and hypocritical like twerp you are. i know its difficult for you, as clearly you lack the vocabulary you need to be able to argue with me sensibly. I should really pic on someone my own "intellectual size" boom boom!! get it? hahaha you idiot.
Like i said, you are vindictive and very stupid little pratt!
xxx
Defeatists! I was enjoying that 😉
Ike please. read back on your posts. you are fooling no one... not even yourself. Accept defeat graciously and bow down to my intellectual superiority.... haha
i can just imagine you there, in your clown outfit, screwin'
i can just imagine you there, in your clown outfit, screwin'
"LOL". Typical clown. Laughs to hide the tears eh Ike?
and u dont give up either! Im impressed. Guess u havent gt much else better do to? Alone in your flat with your computer and your "adult videos" and bucket of KFC? Im not really used to arguing with people like you. I am used to representing people like you in the criminal courts here in London.
call me scum if it pleases you. Im going to bed now. Got a long day ahead tomorrow.
Nite nite, dont let the demons in your head bite!
and u dont give up either! Im impressed. Guess u havent gt much else better do to? Alone in your flat with your computer and your "adult videos" and bucket of KFC? Im not really used to arguing with people like you. I am used to representing people like you in the criminal courts here in London.
call me scum if it pleases you. Im going to bed now. Got a long day ahead tomorrow.
Nite nite, dont let the demons in your head bite!
*shakes head* what's a beezy.... Thirty years old and still playing games like a high school girl. I'm not trying to be a di(k but zade do you really think with all the damage and mind games that gone this relationship it is repairable? And if you were so "infinitely patient" why were you going out and sleeping with other men? Like I said before I'm not trying to be a dick but maybe you should take all that psychology knowledge and analyse yourself and your behavior.
Posted by zade
I fully realise this is my fault.
I am an idiot.
sobering thoughts zade.....and quite possibly very just ones.
"I am used to representing people like you in the criminal courts here in London."
"Accept defeat graciously and bow down to my intellectual superiority"
Now it's comments like that zade that make everyone tell you that you sound completely full of yourself. No one on here was trying to be mean to you until you started acting rudely defensive towards everyones honest opinions. Im really not trying to be mean here, Im merely trying to point out the fact that you should maybe try being a little more open minded and not always getting into fights or being rude whenever you here something that you dont like. People are just trying to offer their insights to ur problems and if you dont want to hear the harsh truth, then you shouldnt be asking for help here. Cause like they say, Aquas are extremely honest and blunt and dont try to sugar coat their explanations in order to avoid hurting people's feelings. They just say it like it is.
And it's stuff like that that also gets you into trouble with ur on-again/off-again boyfriend or whatever you want to call him. You sent him a cruel e-mail when you were feeling angry, and someone who is thirty years old should be more mature by now and know how to calmly and rationaly try and solve a problem. Hell Im only 19 and I wouldnt do that ha. You shouldn't go on a full blown defensive attack.
Not to mention ur boy must be sinserly confused because you constantly sending mixed signals. Sleep with different guys one day and then getting all love dovy and cuddly with him the next. Ur guy clearly doesnt know what you really feel because it's ALWAYS mixed signals. You really need to stop with the mind games with him if you want to keep him. Sure you said that you were patient with him for a year or something (I dont know you and I dont know ur real story so I have no idea what the truth is) but obviously ur new approach is not working. So just STOP! Either sit down with him and tell him what you really want and let him tell you what you really want and try to work on it if you can come to sort of understanding. But chances are the damage is permenately done. If he's a true Aqua, it's going to be really hard for him to ever really trust you again. Sorry if that's blunt, that's just how it is.
"Accept defeat graciously and bow down to my intellectual superiority"
Now it's comments like that zade that make everyone tell you that you sound completely full of yourself. No one on here was trying to be mean to you until you started acting rudely defensive towards everyones honest opinions. Im really not trying to be mean here, Im merely trying to point out the fact that you should maybe try being a little more open minded and not always getting into fights or being rude whenever you here something that you dont like. People are just trying to offer their insights to ur problems and if you dont want to hear the harsh truth, then you shouldnt be asking for help here. Cause like they say, Aquas are extremely honest and blunt and dont try to sugar coat their explanations in order to avoid hurting people's feelings. They just say it like it is.
And it's stuff like that that also gets you into trouble with ur on-again/off-again boyfriend or whatever you want to call him. You sent him a cruel e-mail when you were feeling angry, and someone who is thirty years old should be more mature by now and know how to calmly and rationaly try and solve a problem. Hell Im only 19 and I wouldnt do that ha. You shouldn't go on a full blown defensive attack.
Not to mention ur boy must be sinserly confused because you constantly sending mixed signals. Sleep with different guys one day and then getting all love dovy and cuddly with him the next. Ur guy clearly doesnt know what you really feel because it's ALWAYS mixed signals. You really need to stop with the mind games with him if you want to keep him. Sure you said that you were patient with him for a year or something (I dont know you and I dont know ur real story so I have no idea what the truth is) but obviously ur new approach is not working. So just STOP! Either sit down with him and tell him what you really want and let him tell you what you really want and try to work on it if you can come to sort of understanding. But chances are the damage is permenately done. If he's a true Aqua, it's going to be really hard for him to ever really trust you again. Sorry if that's blunt, that's just how it is.
Oh and also for your other question...
"what i want to know is whther the boy being an aqua has been telling pleple how much he likes this girl becuase he does like her (an i understand that aquas would usually do the oposite) or simply cos he does like her, and in reverse, did he keep his feeling for me concealed from others becuase they were scaring him or becuase he didnt have them?"
From my understanding, Aquas only tell their friends and family about a person they like or they're dating if they really like them and if they are worth their time. So he probably told his friend about that girl cause he was really starting to like her. And like I said, they hate mind games. They say it like it is. So I dont think he would be lying to people if he didnt feel anything for her. As for you, maybe he does have feelings for u, it's just that ur relationship is so completely unstable that there really isnt too much of a point to tell his friends all about you if there is no future. He's not going to spend his time talking about a girl that isnt worth it in the long run if ur not going to be together. He's probably just told people he likes u but not that much because everything is just so f**ked up at the moment. Good luck with ur problem, and try to take people's advice and either leave the poor boy alone or try and solve the problem out front so u dont have constant drama happening all of the time. Im sure that it's getting annoying after a while and you just want to fix things for good by now anyways.
"what i want to know is whther the boy being an aqua has been telling pleple how much he likes this girl becuase he does like her (an i understand that aquas would usually do the oposite) or simply cos he does like her, and in reverse, did he keep his feeling for me concealed from others becuase they were scaring him or becuase he didnt have them?"
From my understanding, Aquas only tell their friends and family about a person they like or they're dating if they really like them and if they are worth their time. So he probably told his friend about that girl cause he was really starting to like her. And like I said, they hate mind games. They say it like it is. So I dont think he would be lying to people if he didnt feel anything for her. As for you, maybe he does have feelings for u, it's just that ur relationship is so completely unstable that there really isnt too much of a point to tell his friends all about you if there is no future. He's not going to spend his time talking about a girl that isnt worth it in the long run if ur not going to be together. He's probably just told people he likes u but not that much because everything is just so f**ked up at the moment. Good luck with ur problem, and try to take people's advice and either leave the poor boy alone or try and solve the problem out front so u dont have constant drama happening all of the time. Im sure that it's getting annoying after a while and you just want to fix things for good by now anyways.
Haha well it was pretty entertaining to read all of these back and forth comments. Plus on how rediculous the situation is. And I thought I had drama with my Aqua bf in the beginning of our relationship. But this one's too messed up not to really leave some sort of advice or opinion. 🙂
"The messages i give him are so mixed: i will flirt outrageously with his friends and tell him about oterh men i sleep with, i know it hurts him& he disaapears, so I send him messages saying i love him and can we make friends? Im messing with his head "
-ok, sorry...but, that is SO messed up of you...
-ok, sorry...but, that is SO messed up of you...
Jen: thanks for your opnion- i have mainly sorted it out with him now. We are taking it slow tho as in going back to square one. I told him we need to write a list of the things we do that upset the other and talk about whether we can realisitically promise to not do these things.
I didnt realise how deep things ran with him. he used to have a best frined who died in a car acident and he got depressed for 2 years he never left his bedroom. he said it really messed him up and when me and him started to get so close in the beginning he freaked out becuase he "couldnt deal with losing someone that close again and would be scared that he coundt cope". i told him i knew he got depressed i could sense it but i ddnt want to be the cuase of anymore of his depression and if me and him could not get along then i would have to walk becuase i love him to much to cause him pain but he has got to be stright becuase when he retreats or cold shoulders me i will eventually get so frustrated i will react as he has seen.
phew.. its ben a heavy weekend but i think it will wokrout maybe if not as lovers then frineds. i defeninately want him in my life and he definately wants me but wther a r'ship is realistic at this time i dont know maybe 6 months break from each other just as frineds.
theother thing i wanted to say jen- you said i was acting denfensive beucase other ppl were giving me honest opnions. for the record that is not really true. see the first two messages Ike posted on pages 2 to see when i started to get "defensive". And my comments about bowing down to my intellecutal superioroty were sarcastic. Im british its what we do best.
Ike: im not replying to you anymore beucase it, and you, are beneath me. I said i didnt look down at ppl but i was wrong! i do look down on a person- you. But, as you need the victory more than i do, i let you have it, with my sincerest "compliments" of course. My professional advice to you and other like you (theskys) is this: go and lock yourself in a room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver. hahaha.
and thesky: dont talk about friends... you need to get a life.
I didnt realise how deep things ran with him. he used to have a best frined who died in a car acident and he got depressed for 2 years he never left his bedroom. he said it really messed him up and when me and him started to get so close in the beginning he freaked out becuase he "couldnt deal with losing someone that close again and would be scared that he coundt cope". i told him i knew he got depressed i could sense it but i ddnt want to be the cuase of anymore of his depression and if me and him could not get along then i would have to walk becuase i love him to much to cause him pain but he has got to be stright becuase when he retreats or cold shoulders me i will eventually get so frustrated i will react as he has seen.
phew.. its ben a heavy weekend but i think it will wokrout maybe if not as lovers then frineds. i defeninately want him in my life and he definately wants me but wther a r'ship is realistic at this time i dont know maybe 6 months break from each other just as frineds.
theother thing i wanted to say jen- you said i was acting denfensive beucase other ppl were giving me honest opnions. for the record that is not really true. see the first two messages Ike posted on pages 2 to see when i started to get "defensive". And my comments about bowing down to my intellecutal superioroty were sarcastic. Im british its what we do best.
Ike: im not replying to you anymore beucase it, and you, are beneath me. I said i didnt look down at ppl but i was wrong! i do look down on a person- you. But, as you need the victory more than i do, i let you have it, with my sincerest "compliments" of course. My professional advice to you and other like you (theskys) is this: go and lock yourself in a room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver. hahaha.
and thesky: dont talk about friends... you need to get a life.
"My professional advice to you and other like you (theskys) is this: go and lock yourself in a room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver. hahaha."
From the mouth of the one who claims superiority over all of us. What I'd like you to "KNOW"-you are...NOT mature. NOT intelligent. NOT educated. NOT an adult. No rebuttal is necessary...I'm going to go read something that was written by someone WITH a brain. Oh yeah...don't EVER forget protection.
From the mouth of the one who claims superiority over all of us. What I'd like you to "KNOW"-you are...NOT mature. NOT intelligent. NOT educated. NOT an adult. No rebuttal is necessary...I'm going to go read something that was written by someone WITH a brain. Oh yeah...don't EVER forget protection.
lol chill out luna, baby! why the animosity?
one f the difference between you and me (and there are many im pleased to say) is that i admit when im wrong. i admitted my mistakes from the outset. i am immature at times-gems usually are. but thanks to all your helpful advice (note: sarcasm) i have sorted things out with the boy. Im golden.
i still dont understadn wehre all the hatred came from, you and ike predominatly and theskys. i can only attribute it to jealousy. having had this experience with you all, i feel humbled and grateful that this sort of noxious jealousy is not something i have to feel myself in my life, and grateful that i have never felt the need to hate others becuase i percieve them as being better and more successful than me. becuase that is what is really going on here isnt it? Ouch!
I suggest you re-read the entire thread again, with a view to trying to see objectively, where the hate in this thread came from. the only mistake i made was thinking that i could get some useful input from idiots like you and ike. I sorted the thing out myself in the end.
its interesting to note that neither you nor ike make any comments about your own education or careers yet judging by how you reacted when i mentioned mine,it seems these things are so very important to you. much more so than to me, but then, that is to be expected- i have (even tho i say so myslef) made it to the top strata of soceity in the UK, despite my humble origins, and i really dont care very much about you or the sordid little grief holes you and the clown Ike crawl about in.
i hope you find peace, success and happiness in your life. truly.
one f the difference between you and me (and there are many im pleased to say) is that i admit when im wrong. i admitted my mistakes from the outset. i am immature at times-gems usually are. but thanks to all your helpful advice (note: sarcasm) i have sorted things out with the boy. Im golden.
i still dont understadn wehre all the hatred came from, you and ike predominatly and theskys. i can only attribute it to jealousy. having had this experience with you all, i feel humbled and grateful that this sort of noxious jealousy is not something i have to feel myself in my life, and grateful that i have never felt the need to hate others becuase i percieve them as being better and more successful than me. becuase that is what is really going on here isnt it? Ouch!
I suggest you re-read the entire thread again, with a view to trying to see objectively, where the hate in this thread came from. the only mistake i made was thinking that i could get some useful input from idiots like you and ike. I sorted the thing out myself in the end.
its interesting to note that neither you nor ike make any comments about your own education or careers yet judging by how you reacted when i mentioned mine,it seems these things are so very important to you. much more so than to me, but then, that is to be expected- i have (even tho i say so myslef) made it to the top strata of soceity in the UK, despite my humble origins, and i really dont care very much about you or the sordid little grief holes you and the clown Ike crawl about in.
i hope you find peace, success and happiness in your life. truly.
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