Do you feel like an astrological oddball? *vent*

It's frustrating to feel like I never fit in anywhere. I find astrology so endlessly fascinating and I love all the grey areas. It is simply not as simple as fitting into your sun sign box and that is such a stunningly beautiful thing! I am simultaneously excited and annoyed by my chart.

For example, my chart is mostly air, with a touch of earth & water; Libra/Virgo cusp, Libra Asc, Gemini Moon, Libra Mercury.. but then it gets interesting, I never manage to float entirely off into space because my Capricorn Mars is constantly weighing heavily. And before anyone goes jumping to conclusions about how shallow and flakey I might be in relationships I'll mention that my Venus is placed in Scorpio, I am fiercely committed in love.

So with my Sun being just one degree Libra I am very much on the fence and have Virgo traits that cannot be explained by anything other than the cusp theory. (Many naysay the effect of being born on a cusp.. but generally not those of us who were and feel very much the energies of two sun signs!) Libra Asc puts my Sun in my 12th house, making me genuinely quite introverted and shy, but I still appear to be a friendly & outgoing Libra.. thanks a lot universe. It's awkward being me! My Gemini moon mind makes me flakey and disorganized in everyday life which annoys the treetrunk out of the Virgo cusp influences that make me desire order, organization, efficiency, Perfection as well my Cap Mars which adds a rather serious tone in all that I am and urges me to hold steady.

I'm exhausted being me. I think my Gem moon is what irritates me the most. I feel like a contradiction in human form much of the time but at least now that I know more about astrology I make more sense to myself.

lol, nice rant. I can sort of relate with my birthday being at the very end of Virgo (Sep 22nd). Im a Virgo/Libra girl who is super messy, but I'm a pretty damn good organizer (who likes to avoid it if I can) and unfortunately care about the way I look thanks to my Libra/Venus lover of beauty aspects, but I always aim to not look perfect since I can't stand it when everything is in place. My dominant signs are Aquarius and Capricorn, I have a Sagittarius moon that defies my virgo nature and I am dominant in the Air and Earth element with a bit of Water and Fire. I've come to find that my mixture is fascinatingly complex and somehow very much me. I feel like everything balances out the other. Have you tried looking at your dominant planets and signs to see why you can't fit in a box. What really throws me off for my natal chart is that I have venus as one of my dominant planets and libra as my third dominant sign and I am so not a social butterfly but I love to communicate. Its frustrating when you have such a huge urge to converse but struggle to even initiate a conversation. Enough about me I want to add on to your description.

From what I read about sun being the 12th you are not necessarily shy but struggle to assert your individuality which means that you do well in crowds. I also read that "This placement of the Sun is often found with the Moon in one of the houses of Relative consciousness, indicating that the soul, having learned about self and other is now learning that the dualship perspective can be trans?_cended. It may be that the Sun in H12 indicates the completion of a cycle of soul development" which means that your Gemini Moon or dualship is actually beneficial to your personal growth and discovering parts of your self that you didn't notice before. Rather than seeing yourself as a contradiction why not see it as an opportunity to see more than just one side to a story.

Wow Slowercase! We have some things in common! Also, super messy, except I am very drawn to perfect organization. (Someday I will get more into learning aspects to understand this better.) When it comes to appearances, personal or home decor I do not like "matchy matchy." My style is very eclectic. I care a lot about the way I look but you wouldnt always know that because my scattered mind often gets in the way and I just don't have the time to get prettied up.

I am nearly certain that the most dominant placement in my chart is Scorpio Venus and I do in fact relate strongly to this placement. It shows mostly in my relationships of course but also I get completely obsessed when someone or something piques my interest, investigating like crazy. Combined w my Gem moon mind which is like a starving bottomless pit for information, I can never satisfy the need to take in info to the point of feeling "information drunk." I really need to learn to control this tendency because it doesnt feel like I'm "feeding my moon," it feels more like I'm drowning & overindulging it. Also I'm always wavering between the need to be an open book, all Mary Lambert like, "I don't care if the world knows what my secrets are," and also feeling fiercely private and secretive. Again, my Gem mind is constantly changing.

I can totally relate having a need to converse while struggling to do so. The struggle is real!

I'm so glad you shared that about sun in the 12th house! I found the site you quoted and it makes a lot of sense. I was an only child until I was eleven so my entire childhood my parents smothered me and then my sister was born and I was kind of on my own. Also raised in a very restrictive religion. The focus on my individuality was zero and I have put almost no thought into it to this day. This is where I will start focusing my attention in my self-growth. You would notice this having so much Aquarius energy 🙂 According to this site my strong Scorpio placement is basically my saving grace from being a limp noodle. No wonder it's my favorite. Another trait of mine that defies my mostly peaceful nature is that I've grown to become pretty tough emotionally. If i feel attacked or severely slighted I react with intense verbal aggression (i never raise my voice, i just formulate what is very truthful and hurtful,) I'm very good at picking apart one's brain, my words aim to cut to the core. Even though I never say anything I don't feel they deserve, 90% of the time I fe

..feel bad afterwards about making them feel bad. I hate being a cookiemonster but I'm exceptionally good at it. I rarely reach this point though because thankfully I've learned to not let ridiculousness get to me.

And lastly, actually one of my favorite placements is the Libra/Virgo cusp because i do tend to see tons of angles to most situations (besides myself and my individuality apparently, haha!) I can totally figure this contradiction into a strength. Thanks so much for your input! Very helpful _—

Tiziani- interesting. I will add that to my list of things to research in the future.

Posted by basari
Astrology really helped me get to know myself better. I'm complicated and so is my chart.

Tell me more basari 🙂 What frustrates you in your chart? What are you grateful for? Anything about seem contradictory?

"And before anyone goes jumping to conclusions about how shallow and flakey I might be in relationships I'll mention that my Venus is placed in Scorpio, I am fiercely committed in love."


Air signs are intellectually inclined- not flakey.

Geminis are not commitment-phobes.

You have a chart ruled by Venus, the planet of beauty

and grace... emphasized more so, being a first Decan Leeb.

That Scorpio is somehow superior to so-called flakey Air

signs, or your saving grace (perceived), is insulting

to a lot of really amazing Air sign people.

It takes all elements-- 🙂


The 12th House is rarely silent... but it isn't exactly

the most 'comfortable' house for the Sun, nor is it easy

to access from what I've read.


Maybe that is why you take comfort in your earth and

water placements.

But you may want to look into the 12th-- universal

compassion (yourself included) is part of its territory.

if you're flakey in relationships,

then look inside yourself and ask yourself WHY are you like that?

Maybe it's just because you are NOT ready. Maybe you're just one of those types that get into relationships after middle age. *shrug* who knows.

You really have to look deep inside yourself and wonder WHY can't i find someone that will complete me?

Are you searching for the proverbial prince charming?

and if you are, meaning you can't commit to anyone right now. SO the fuck what? get your inner REBEL out , and just say so what?? if i wanna be single i wanna be single.

Posted by lisabethur8
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SO the fuck what? get your inner REBEL out , and just say so what??

if i wanna be single i wanna be single.

lol

Exactly why we need Air ^^^


lisabef —


+1

my birthday is march 31st and when i was younger i'd always read the pisces horoscopes instead because i related to them more than what i read on aries. now that i know a lot more about astrology than i did when i was 12 and reading tiger beat trying to find my love matches i have found that pisces is quite prominent in my chart so it makes a bit more sense

Posted by basari
Astrology really helped me get to know myself better. I'm complicated and so is my chart.

same here I got a couple of 2 squares my charts has a lot of fire and water mostly a Tug of war between Leo(sun,mecury,MH,Chiron,Venus 9th house) and Scorpio(pluto, Asc, Moon 1st house). talk about contradicting

"if you're flakey in relationships.." I am absolutely not in any way nor have I ever been flakey in relationships.. I couldnt possibly be any happier than I am now that I'm married. I truly feel the Libra wholeness that I'd been seeking. I'm not sure what I said that gave that impression. I was thinking more along the lines that it seems that a common air sign stereotype is that we can be flakey in relationships and I have a ton of air in my chart.. so I find this stereotype particularly annoying. That is likely just me placing too much emphasis on what is often said about Gemini and taking it personally because that's my moon. My Gem moon loves the treetrunk out of my very intellectual husband. 😉

Montgomery- I fully agree, it takes all elements!! I absolutely do not intend to insult air.. my frustration is for ME in particular. I need to gain mastery over my own mind (bouncing all around constantly and not utilizing it's potential) and self and it's been a challenge for me I believe because I am so airy. I often feel emotionally detached from other people and find myself wishing I knew how to connect more deeply. It's a challenge. That's what makes my Scorp placement so special to me, I love the deep emotional expierences, albeit rare and I crave more but find them elusive. My apologies if offensive!!

Being said, I definitely adore the amazingness of air! I love being infinitely flexible, open minded, I forgive easily and move on quickly from disputes (ahem, unless somehow my Scorpio side was offended! lol).

I think I take comfort in my earth & water because I feel a deep need for balance and harmony, I wonder if I'm not too much air (although what the h does it matter? I am what I am. Ridiculous mind always overthinking things i cant control..) I do feel something slightly off w no major fire placements although I am but an astrological grasshopper.. I know that I must have some influential houses in fire and I do have Saturn & Uranus in Sag but really I'm not well versed in outer planet influence to understand this.

brothertrucker.. i like!

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Posted by basari
Astrology really helped me get to know myself better. I'm complicated and so is my chart.

same here I got a couple of 2 squares my charts has a lot of fire and water mostly a Tug of war between Leo(sun,mecury,MH,Chiron,Venus 9th house) and Scorpio(pluto, Asc, Moon 1st house). talk about contradicting

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Wow to it all. I'm patricularly interested in how the Leo venus & Scorpio moon play out for you..? Sounds like it could get messy!