Moon/pluto or hades moon..

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I would like to hear answers from people with a natal moon/pluto hard aspect (conjunction, opposition, square).
Did you have any of the below?

experience any kind violence (maybe from your parents) in childhood

Had only one parent, the other was missing in your life (missing emotionally can be the case too)

Had emotional hardships in your childhood

It's my personal observation with moon/pluto people lately..which I'd like to test.



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Posted by caprigoral
Moon 3rd house sq. Pluto 12th house.

I was always single parented but it changed back and forth a bit.

I don't know if my childhood was emotionally tougher than anyone else's. Puberty started at 7, full on puberty at 9 and I always figured in my adult years that my sense of things having been emotionaly tough, were probably just hormonal changes.

Things have never been right between my mom and I. Dad and I are closer or at least speak regularly now. My dad has admitted that he wasn't a very good dad but as he says: "You were a tough kid, so it didn't affect you" or something to that effect. Uhuh...



parents who say their children are to blame because they are tough, are usually parents that can't "parent"...

i know of people who to this day will NOT have children because they "know" themselves.
I feel alot of people have them for "other' reasons.

I have a relative who worked in social services in helping children, and there were parents who were NOT fit to be parents at all. One parent took revenge on a baby by letting the baby be awake ALL night because the baby woke HIM up all night. The social services had to come in....because these parents kept having LOTS of children. Sure, the children were fed and clothed, but they were messed up because there is something "off" and mentally wrong with the parents -- especially doing something like that.
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Posted by IllaLupus
Moon conjunct Pluto in Scorpio.

Siblings and I grew up in an abusive household. Father abused, manipulated, and forced my mom to do sexual things. He was also on drugs. I was exposed to seeing sex and pornography at a very young age. He would force her to have sex with him in my bed as a child, and i had walked in and seen. I've witnessed him try to kill her multiple times I always stood between them protecting my mother. Had us cornered in the kitchen, i was in front of her and he jumped over the island counter with a butcher knife. When she was pregnant with me and my other siblings he'd abuse her and force her to sit in a chair while he screamed in her face.. Made her Urinate herself as she was not allowed to leave. After he'd go on his abuse spree he would pull out the video camera and video tape everyone as if nothing happened. Used my older brother as his puppet manipulated him into hating my mother for years. There was always violence in my house, always anger. My older brother grew up seeing my father his "idol" the one who can do no wrong abusing my mom so in turn he started beating the shit out of me. Even if I barely looked at him I'd get hit, but i would fight back. As they say scorpio moons have controlling mothers etc not in my case. My mother is my everything, i will always protect her. Not only that but he's a perverted nasty man.. Slapping my butt, making comments about my breasts growing.. telling my little sister that when she gets her first period that's when she can make babies.... It's disturbing to think he's my father.

Yeah, a felon raised by a his evil mother abandoned by his own father for not having blonde hair and blue eyes and his step dad was an ex con who was a racist biker guy who had done very bad things.. 🙂



Oh my god and I complain about having a virgo mother gossipy and judgmental, parents who divorced when I was very little girl.

You really don't think you was abused by your mother? You big heart, I think I could never forgive that, despise her as a mother, I can not stand people who assume a role and fails.

What sign were your parents?

I hope you can have a peaceful and happy adult life and never allow your children to watch such things.

I had never read anything like this, my heart shrank with your history.
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Posted by auriqa
Scorpio Moon conjunct Scorpio

Experienced no kind of violence in childhood. I come from a strong, "model" family. Parents are still happily married to this day, also have many aunts, uncles and cousins who are very close as well. If I ever needed to hide a body, I know they'd all help me. My dad did work a lot and still does, but was always there emotionally and still spent plenty of time with me and my siblings on the weekend.

As for emotional hardships, yeah I guess. My grandmother died when I was 7, I was very close with her. I was bullied relentlessly through my school years and have suffered with anxiety and depression, even when I was very young there were signs of those. I refused to go to school between the ages of 7 and 10 because I got some feeling of terror as soon as I got close to the school gates. I know now it's the same feeling I get when I have an anxiety attack.

Aw, illalupus and darkfire, I just want to give you two a cuddle. 😢



It's a great thing to hear you have such a loving family aurica! I was really curious to know whether there were really good opposite examples with this aspect.
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I have moon in aries opposite pluto in libra.

Hmm where to begin? My bio dad (cancer) was physically abusive towards me and my mom (aries). Bio dad just used to drink, smoke pot and didn't want to work but he liked doing the chores at home. He wanted to be the stay-at-home dad. I guess back then, society wasn't so open to the idea. It was my mom that took care of my financial needs.

Then he left when I was 3 years old, he always wrote letters to me and even sent me money but my grandparents spent it and they stopped showing me my dad's letters because mom wanted to cut all ties with him. Later on, my grandpa told me he used to write letters until I was 10. Then it all stopped when he had a new family.

Mom wasn't really prepared to be a mother. She was too young and emotionally immature. I was 5 when she met my stepdad (sag) and I had to always be there for her emotionally whenever they were having marital problems. She worked overseas so I only see her for a week or a month every year for 22 years.

I had to grow up fast, I didn't have time to be a kid. I had a sister and a brother to take care of too aside from myself. Mom just sends the money for bills, stepdad works at night so we barely see him. He doesn't do chores at home. That's my job aside from making sure he has something to eat He didn't attend any school activities of my siblings either. I'm the one that attends their parent-teacher meetings. In short, I was like a surrogate mother to my siblings.

We did have a maid to help with the chores but most of the time, they don't do anything at home because there's no adult to supervise them. I end up firing them because mom paid them to do chores at home but they don't do anything. They just use the phone all day and pretend to do something when stepdad was awake.

I was 15 when my stepdad had to live away from us so it was just me, my sister and brother. It was then that I really had to manage everything. I'm not used to having parents around telling me what to do. I had to make all the decisions on my own.

My mom's parents live close to us but they can't really supervise us because they also look after some of my cousins. Mom sends the money to them when my stepdad worked overseas too and they just take care of the bills. They're nice when money is coming, they treat us well only when mom is around.

I've dealt with sexual abuse too as a kid and during my teen years. I don't want to elaborate on that.
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My childhood wasn't peachy but it's okay. I had to be strong emotionally, mentally and physically. I've learned to cope by trying to understand why people do what they do. There's always a reason. I started reading psychology books at age 10 but I didn't pursue it as a profession. I don't want to deal with people's issues all day. lol

For instance, my bio dad, he was the youngest, spoiled, and used to getting what he wants. He came from a rich family so he didn't really have to do anything nor work his ass off for anything.

Mom had awful relatives that always looked down on her parents (both caps) because my grandma married someone 'poor as a rat' and beneath their social status so that drove her to be independent and to earn a lot of money to gain their respect. She pushed me to be an overachiever so she'd have something to be proud of. I had to be the top of my class all the time, be responsible and exemplary in every way. We ended up clashing all the time because she prioritized work and money more than spending time with me and my siblings. She tried buying my affection through gifts. You can't buy love and quality time together!

Grandpa (cap) always felt insecure because grandma's family always called him 'poor as a rat'. His values are different from mine. For him, marriage was like a business. He wants all his grandchildren to marry someone rich, doesn't matter if the guy was treating us bad as long as he was rich. He said love wouldn't feed us. For him, money = power. lol

Stepdad had a hard life as a child too so he expected us to be independent at an early age. We had to be strong emotionally and mentally, to pave our own path in life without needing help from anyone. He was benevolent when he sees you deserve it. We had to be prim and proper all the time, polite, respectful to elders and obey the rules.
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I decided to check my siblings, and the info could be off because I'm only sure about birth times when it comes myself and the Aries, so the orbs could very well fluctuate up to 10 degrees.

Pisces, Leo Moon, Square Pluto 7??53
Leo, Aqua Moon, Square Pluto 1??42
Aries Aqua Moon, Square Pluto 7??02
Scorpio, Aqua Moon, Square Pluto 4??12
Taurus, Gemini Moon, Trine Pluto 1??59

I without going into details, yes there was abuse and violence, a lot of fear, controlling behavior, and emotional manipulation and emotional neglect.
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Posted by starlover
((((Aesma)))) that is awful what you had to endure...i want to shake your mum and dad. Even the thought of my son having a step-father makes me shudder ~ adults are so damn selfish sometimes/blockquote>

Aww! Thanks, Star, but it's okay because I understand them. I'd really love for my mom to find a man that would treat her right. She has a big heart that people take advantage of. 😢

As for my bio dad, I wish for him to let go of the pain. It's like a ghost from the past that keeps haunting him. We're not close. I don't think I'd ever want him to be a part of my life since he never was but I still want him to find his own happiness. I just don't want anything to do with him.

Me and my stepdad are still close and we still talk even after him and mom split up.

@Dark it's great that you're open to having your dad in your life again. That's really something. I can't do it and I know this is something I won't regret.

@Star you're not open to having romantic relationships anymore?

It's great that you want to focus on taking care of your kid. You do seem happy, vibrant and enjoying being single!

I did tell my mom she should try that for a while, just looking after herself and maybe she'd gain a bit of clarity but she doesn't listen. Lol