Why are male cancers so difficult?

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I've been dating a male cancer for a little over two months. When we first met, I was very guarded. After our first meeting, he told me he wanted a relationship with me. I told him I wanted to take things slow. After week one, we've literally spent almost everyday together. I liked him, but was terrified of trying love again. He told me he was too, but that he'd taken a step at trying it and that I should too. He has no friends. He opened up to me about his family and his life. He's overly sensitive and insecure. He's been verbally abused by people in his family, he suffers from the middle child syndrome because he never felt like he could equal up to his older and younger brother. He has a worthless job where his boss takes advantage of him and verbally abuses him, but he refuses to report him. His brothers laugh at him when he tells them he loves them. From what he's told me, the women he's dated have cheated on him and he'd take them back all but to be cheated on again. He's a home body and has never traveled more than 200 miles from home. He's 7 years younger than me. Knowing all of this, my heart went out to him. I've grown to love this man and I've been very open about my feelings for him. In the last month he's been very closed off when discussing "us." He would become shy. At first ge would comment on being upset if I dated someone else and then he started saying he wouldn't since we haven't officially become committed. I think he cares, but it frustrates me. I finally made him tell me how he felt and he admitted that he has not allowed himself to develop deep feelings because of fear of being hurt like he was in his past relationships with prior women. It hurt because I know that I'm genuine and I explained that I've been hurt, but I'm willing to move forward. I'm an Aquarius so this being in a shell is frustrating and now I feel like I've wasted my time, even if it's been almost three months. He admitted that he's basically punishing me for his past girlfriends and that he's working to stop doing that. He also said he sometimes doesn't feel like he's good enough for me and that makes him scared to open up to me in fear that I'll leave him. I don't know what to do because I really like him, but part of me feels like I'm too good of a woman to put up with this. Is this a typical attitude of a Cancer man?
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He sounds like he has a lot of water placements.
Astrology aside, the way you've explained it he's let people walk all over him, and his self worth is shot all to hell.
And no, I don't think its typical of a Cancer man.
Looks like you have the potential for a "My Fair Lady" scenario in reverse roles.
The approach with this guy, if you love him as you say, is going to be to be able to move sideways.
Be honest and gentle, and discuss the things in terms of observation to get him thinking.
Let him know you see the good things about him, and give your opinion (not tell, just in an observatory way) on what you think might be the problem.
You got work ahead of you if you like this guy. Sort of like nursing that forlorn looking plant you picked up in the value section of Home Depot. You can get it to bloom, but its going to take patience and some TLC.

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Thank you, that's what one of my friends told me. She said it was going to take a lot of patience in dealing with this guy. I think he cares, but I hate that he doesn't fight for anything in life, including me. He just takes things how they are. He wants to go back to school to finish his degree, but thinks 27 is too old to go back. I told him I was 31 when I finished my degree.
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What I don't get is that he says he wants a relationship with you on the FIRST date, but then turns around and is "lol I just won't allow myself to get close to you, sorry!"

What the hell is that shit?

Regardless of past or not, dude shouldn't be out in the dating pool if he has that many demons to overcome. He needs to get his shit together before he goes diving in. A relationship isn't going to fix him. He needs to do that separately.

Too many people out there are emotionally selfish and just keep jumping in, expecting to use someone else's time and emotions to fix their own bs issues. Dating and relationships are not a form of therapy.

This dude in particular was already throwing up red flags. Wanting a relationship with you after the first date is a bit much. It screams unresolved issues, tbh. This is why women need to pay attention to those red flags closely. For being so guarded, you jumped in when you should have held off, and now you're stuck in this already complex mess, which now it also includes your own emotional well-being. Good luck, because you're going to need it.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
What I don't get is that he says he wants a relationship with you on the FIRST date, but then turns around and is "lol I just won't allow myself to get close to you, sorry!"

What the hell is that shit?

Regardless of past or not, dude shouldn't be out in the dating pool if he has that many demons to overcome. He needs to get his shit together before he goes diving in. A relationship isn't going to fix him. He needs to do that separately.

Too many people out there are emotionally selfish and just keep jumping in, expecting to use someone else's time and emotions to fix their own bs issues. Dating and relationships are not a form of therapy.

This dude in particular was already throwing up red flags. Wanting a relationship with you after the first date is a bit much. It screams unresolved issues, tbh. This is why women need to pay attention to those red flags closely. For being so guarded, you jumped in when you should have held off, and now you're stuck in this already complex mess, which now it also includes your own emotional well-being. Good luck, because you're going to need it.



Agreed
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
What I don't get is that he says he wants a relationship with you on the FIRST date, but then turns around and is "lol I just won't allow myself to get close to you, sorry!"

What the hell is that shit?

Regardless of past or not, dude shouldn't be out in the dating pool if he has that many demons to overcome. He needs to get his shit together before he goes diving in. A relationship isn't going to fix him. He needs to do that separately.

Too many people out there are emotionally selfish and just keep jumping in, expecting to use someone else's time and emotions to fix their own bs issues. Dating and relationships are not a form of therapy.

This dude in particular was already throwing up red flags. Wanting a relationship with you after the first date is a bit much. It screams unresolved issues, tbh. This is why women need to pay attention to those red flags closely. For being so guarded, you jumped in when you should have held off, and now you're stuck in this already complex mess, which now it also includes your own emotional well-being. Good luck, because you're going to need it.



When a guy says he wants a relationship with me on the first few dates I think WOW he's really into me or he's rushing this for some reason. Either case I don't take it serious until I am ready to have a relationship with him. Usually time will tell if you are compatible and he is sane. 😄
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Posted by LunarMaiden

When a guy says he wants a relationship with me on the first few dates I think WOW he's really into me or he's rushing this for some reason. Either case I don't take it serious until I am ready to have a relationship with him. Usually time will tell if you are compatible and he is sane. 😄



Eh, it's more rushing than the other, usually. Mature/emotionally stable guys won't go and say something stupid like that because it would scare most sane women away. It's a bit presumptuous to say that you want a relationship with someone you barely know. It's a very shallow approach, if you think about it.

But you are right, time will tell, which is why there is no reason for a guy (or a girl) to verbally rush into something like this.

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Seriously? ALL of his girlfriends cheated? I'd be pretty leery of any man, regardless of sign...who had all of this bad luck and couldn't take accountability anywhere. Everything is someone else's fault? His family, his job, his relationships...he is the common denominator here.

Don't go against your gut instincts and intuition to preserve his feelings because, he's not going to do the same for you. Go at the pace that is comfortable for you.
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This. I've learned that those who are constantly playing the "woe is me" card usually aren't quite so innocent themselves. As I got to know individuals like this, they either made really stupid, terrible life choices, or they weren't quite so innocent themselves. Also, isn't that a classic dating red flag indicator? They speak badly of all their exes? It does beg the question, "strange coincidence much?"

OP, I agree with the friend zone approach, tbh. Just because a guy is interested in you doesn't mean you have to date him or pursue anything of romantic interest, nor are you obligated to stick around when it gets this overwhelming and problematic. Sometimes, you just have to pay attention to the obvious and keep it at bay until it's more of a viable option (if that).

You need to figure out what's best for your own emotional well-being overall, though. The situation sounds pretty unhealthy, tbh.
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Cancer males crying over being hurt and cheated on is GETTING FUCKING OLD to be completely honest. Lol. But do they ever talk about how many times they lied and cheated?

NO.

Why? Because they want you to go "aww, poor baby" and then they want to nurse from your teet. They love being babied.



I was wondering why you stopped showing up around here. It kind of makes sense now.
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Not to be rude but who are you? I'm guessing you've changed usernames...
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Posted by Arietteheart
Seriously? ALL of his girlfriends cheated? I'd be pretty leery of any man, regardless of sign...who had all of this bad luck and couldn't take accountability anywhere. Everything is someone else's fault? His family, his job, his relationships...he is the common denominator here.

Don't go against your gut instincts and intuition to preserve his feelings because, he's not going to do the same for you. Go at the pace that is comfortable for you.



Yep