Why do I meet Cancers who lie??

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Why do this?? I have a wonderful cancer female friend who is obsessed with a mutual friend. He is NOT interested, but when bored will send her flirty texts. I told him to cut it out because he is a known manwhore (great as a friend) and he knows that she wants to marry him.

They have never dated, kissed a few times, never had sex. In fact she offered herself up to him THREE times and he said no. He tries to keep the conversations friendly but she keeps pushing. She has said that once he has sex with her that he will want to marry her...sigh.

She has been telling him little lies here and there about plans for the weekend, etc., but last week she actually told him that she met a guy. Gave details and described how perfect the "guy" was. He tells me about it because he thinks she will finally stop bugging him. I told him there is no man. She made it up. I'm embarrassed for her and he thinks she is even crazier. I know that she did it to try to make him jealous, but this is getting out of hand.

I want to bring it up to her, but then I don't want to embarrass her any further. Every cancer I have met, male or female, lies. I don't get it. Most are small lies, but some are huge. I just don't get why. The truth will set you free. I have met Cancer males who lied about their jobs. Cancer females who lied about getting married. Is it just me?? Why am I meeting these types of Cancers?
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You're obviously out of the loop that lying is a human trait, not Cancer. I tell small lies all the time, not necessarily to make someone jealous but to get myself out of something. I recently told this guy, who wouldn't leave me alone, that I have 5 jobs (purposely made my lie ridiculous so he can get the hint). He's been insisting that I hang out with him while I have zero interest in him as anything. So far I've given him all the nice/passive signs of disinterest, some of which would fall under small lies (told him I have a bf, didn't respond to any of his txt until he suddenly called me. I told him I have no time as I have 5 jobs.)

Secondly, leave your female cancer friend be. It's none of your business how she sabotages herself. I think you baiting her out to the mutual friend to be catty for two reasons:

1) We all sometimes try to magnify ourselves so our crush likes us better (her telling him she has a perfect guy now), but you telling the truth to this guy, who exactly isn't a morally upright man to begin with, is pretty catty.

2) You are friends with both, correct?Therefore, you should be neutral. You betrayed your cancer friend for this guy. Seems like your loyalty is more with this guy than your cancer friend.
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I care because she is my friend and I'm tired of seeing her make a fool out of herself. I've tried to get her to go out with me and meet someone new, but she is hung up on him. I told my male friend because I was caught off guard by the lie. I love them both, but they aren't any good for each other. But yeah...I'm leaving it alone. And I am glad to not be a teenager anymore 🙂!
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Everyone from every sign lies at some point, for whatever reasons, and if you say you never lie, not once in your life, you're lying.

What sign is your guy friend?

I think you're a shitty friend for gossiping about your cancer friend behind her back to her crush. My advice to the Cancer would be to get a new friend. And if he tells her what you told him, she probably will drop you.

As for the man whore friend, why would he say he would want to marry the Cancer if they had sex if his feelings for her are supposedly so uninterested? Sounds like he feels very intensely for her and hasn't shared that with you. It also sounds like he's terrified of feeling that intensely for her, and is trying to avoid getting involved in something that isn't his usual casual fling.
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Posted by MoonArtist
My personal thought on this is that you also have a mad crush for this guy and you don't want them to be together.



No. I wasn't gossiping with him about her. He brought it up. No, he is not interested. He has a girlfriend and new baby. He was interested in her a long time ago, but lost interest because of some things she said and did. She told me that she was going to try her best to get him out of her system, but its not working. I am a great friend and a patient one for sure. He's a Virgo.
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wait... is not cancers is people in general

I might not be the best to say this but, first of all, in the ideal world we would love to be surrounded by honest people, but in reality in one way of another and for different reasons everybody lie... most cancer would to protect their precious feelings and some others just because they are not good people, there are people like that regardless with sign is just bad blood...

So after saying that.. I think all we need to learn is to be able to identify between a pathological liar, which will lie about mostly everything, and people who lie to manipulate, and those who lie because is convenient, or white lies... is tricky but with time you start noticing certain similarities among lies and how oddly familiar those lies sound that you start not biting the hook... then once you learn that you are able to identify is you are willing to stay around people like that and if you are willing to invest time and emotion on then...

It sounds easier than it is... the worst kind (I'm still not able to see them coming) are the people sociopaths... those bitches put on good credible lies... they are perfect actors...
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Posted by capnip
I care because she is my friend and I'm tired of seeing her make a fool out of herself. I've tried to get her to go out with me and meet someone new, but she is hung up on him. I told my male friend because I was caught off guard by the lie. I love them both, but they aren't any good for each other. But yeah...I'm leaving it alone. And I am glad to not be a teenager anymore 🙂!



Part of caring and loving someone, specially a friend... is that as a true friend (if you think you are) you have the responsibility to be honest and at front with your friend and tell her what you think is wrong instead of being an enabler.

BUT... that doesn't mean she have to follow your advice or agree with you, and as a friend you need to be able to respect that too, and in a non judgmental way let her follow her path... and be there for her if shit goes down the toiled without saying "I told you so"...

When you are in between two friends... I cannot stress more that the best policy is to not pick any side, don't intervene at all... or get involved.... believe me you are always going to be the one to blame for if you get in between... if you get caught off guard... deflect, try to change the topic or something... or directly say "you know what? Idk, but also I don't want to be in between y'all better get to ask her directly, actually i would advice you to talk to her and get your stuff sorted through" ... And no one can blame you for not wanting to get fuck up by others people's problems... your best approach as friend of both is to simply encourage them to fix their differences between them... and left third parties and rumor mill out of the equation... is all you can do...
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Posted by capnip
I care because she is my friend and I'm tired of seeing her make a fool out of herself. I've tried to get her to go out with me and meet someone new, but she is hung up on him. I told my male friend because I was caught off guard by the lie. I love them both, but they aren't any good for each other. But yeah...I'm leaving it alone. And I am glad to not be a teenager anymore 🙂!




From your OP you're not being a friend. You're being a little teenager Jerry Springer bitch.
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Posted by MoonArtist
Ohhh, he has a gf and a baby, but he'll flirty text her when bored. Classy! 😛

Sounds like all 3 of you are low class. She's delusional and willing to breakup his relationship, he's a cheating man whore, and you're the gossip in the group, stirring the drama.




Pretty much... Let's get back to the porch.

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Posted by MoonArtist
Ohhh, he has a gf and a baby, but he'll flirty text her when bored. Classy! 😛

Sounds like all 3 of you are low class. She's delusional and willing to breakup his relationship, he's a cheating man whore, and you're the gossip in the group, stirring the drama.




Pretty much... Let's get back to the porch.

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