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Hi
I posted along time ago saying how bad the year 2001 was going for me eg marriage over after 13 years. Meet the man of my dreams and lost him a few weeks later! So now I ask how is the year 2002 going for you guys out there! Life for me seems to be improving very slow but hey its improving and thats what matters. They say 2002 should be good for caps I hope so and would like to hear from you all.
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Glad to hear you are having a better year. My last two years, 2000 & 2001, have been absolutely horrible. However, 2002 seems to be very promising. I too went through a divorce, depression. Plus, losing my house due to the divorce, moving three times and another bad relationship for one year. So far this year has been excellent! I've met someone very special which has been slowly progressing. I am finally happy! Knock on wood.
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I also have been through the worst 2yrs of my life. Got extremely depressed after losing a relationship (even though it was wrong for me), then had the most intense connection I've ever felt with someone else but that didn't work out for various reasons. Have changed countries and jobs and am only just feeling positive about the future again. But now I have been getting mixed signals from a new 'friend' - also a Cappie, who seems to be drawn to me but keeps backing off. He also got burned previously and is scared of getting into anything deep with the wrong person. I am trying not to worry either way as I need to get my emotional independance back but its a bit draining after everything else I've been through. Hopefully we will be good friends in the long run.

Overall I think things are looking up and we all need to trust that the universe will look after us and any mistakes we make are all learning experiences.
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I am a female cappie going through a divorce with a male crappie (I meant to spell it that way). This pair should be against the law. We have been married 16 years and the last 2 years were the worst of my life. When I told him I wanted a divorce he became spiteful, anal, deceptive and paranoid. I never new he had these qualities. Looking forward to the rest of 2002. It can only get better.
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I'm sorry to hear about your divorce. Been there, done that. You will learn so much and become a much stronger person for this.

I have a Cappie male friend and for the life of me, I am unable to figure him out. He withdraws so much and seems depressed a lot. I think he thinks of me when he is in one of those down moods. I seem to bring him to life. My parents should have named me, "General Electric". Anyway, in my relationship with him it seemed as if there was more anguish than peace. AHHHHHHHH! I got to a point where I just couldn't put up with it any longer. Being out of the situation for awhile now has allowed me to realize the difference and the peace I now have.

I wish you the best and I am sorry for the way he is treating you. Just know it is not about you but his problems that he is projecting onto you.

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A been there done that, girl.
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Dear Been There Done That,
Thanks!! I believe, I have already become a stronger person. I look forward to getting on with the next chapter of my life and I hope he can do the same. What's the saying you live and learn!! Looking forward to living and learning much much more. Life is too short and happiness is the key. Anyone that needs an expert opinion on caps, let me know. Take care.
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Hold on New Capricorn guy and others. I have a feeling the remainder of this year is going to be the glorious for many of you. With all the hard work, perserverance, loyalty, and dedication comes a huge REWARD. There are people out there that ADMIRE you for ALL your qualities and have taken notice!!! Hang on, your time is coming. IMF

My Cappie bro and sis also go burned very badly in relationships the within the last 10 years, and things are really starting to change for them both now. Thankfully, the negative players in both relationships found new assholes to hook-up with and the situation resolved itself. If they hadn't left, my brother I'm sure would still be married to the B**** and my sis's situation.... her husband ended up where he belongs too! They did it all on there own; nobody had to do a thing! I wish Cappies weren't so damn loyal!!!!
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Well, may I add to this?
I've had the past two and a half years or so in temporary job situations.. probably had about 10 jobs. Separated from ex in 98, then eventually divorced two weeks ago. Moved to a different locale (Orlando)late 2001. Well, got a better stable job in Jan 2002. Had to start life literally from scratch (with the clothes on my back and whatever could be fit in a car). Am in a simple studio apt, doing well now, and with God's help and much faith, things will get better. Had a relationship start in March with a Pisces male, only to have that fizzle, so I'm not even seeking these days. Just having fun with me...
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Cappie's horrorscope for this week

(Dec 22 - Jan 20)
The road of logic is paved with concrete. It is designed for long-distance travelling. It offers little by way of attractive scenery. But most people prefer it for much the same reason that they prefer the freeway to the country road. It appears to be much more direct. Yet there are some places that it cannot take us. To reach the green and pleasant valley's of comfort you must take the path of the heart. This way is bumpy, soft under foot and prone to follow a winding course. You need to feel your way to the best route this week.
J.Cainer (soul coach extraodinaire!!!)

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So true...the heart. What an incredible organ and yet we hesitate to trust it. We get ourselves in situations and we settle "thinking" that this is the way our lives are supposed to be. I have a male Cappy friend who said this to me earlier today. He is in so much emotional pain. I love him with all of my heart yet I cannot rescue him, I can only be here for him. He is afraid of something, of opening himself up. He has chosen to settle. I need to move on. Yes, he is married and yes, I am single. We can talk for hours, I feel like I have known him from my past. Not sure why I have been put on this path and I won't try to figure it out. I don't like seeing other humans in pain...I didn't like being in pain when I was either. One of the gifts that we have been given is the ability to make CHOICES. We can create a better life for ourselves and I see that you, 67.28 has done just that. My hat is off to you and I wish you the best. You will survive, we all survive the confusion that enters our life. This is the stuff that makes each one of us stronger. So, now I am in a confused state of being for my friend and myself.
He wants me to stay in his life. Says it cannot handle it if I don't talk to him anymore. Well, I will always talk to him. I just cannot be there for him in "other" ways. However, I would so love to be. This is what hurts, to fall in love with someone that we cannot really develop a TRUE relationship with. I suppose my lesson was to learn this. I have. So, on this page of the book of my life there will be another path to take, another view to observe and another chance to learn something new. Not sure why I have written all of this but thanks for reading. Life is what it is isn't it?
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I think some of us tend to make it sooo much harder then it has to be!!! You love someone and they you, why not stay at it? Why all the games and push and pull, manipulation, and the mind fucking?? Why? Because people want choices; they want property! They want it all and they want it now!!! They want what they don't need and they start things they can't finish! They don't take the time to do the work and stay with it anymore. They set examples for their children the same way. We have become a bunch of whiny, lazy, selfish children. When people got married in the old days, they stuck it out. It may not have been glamour and fairytales, but they knew what unconditional love was. They worked at a marriage. They respected the institution of marriage. Today there is very little respect for anything, especially the holiset of sacraments. They say(men & women) they want uncondintional love and throw that word around and they don't know the true meaning of it. I think people today think of marriage as a toy; something that can bring them pleasure or status or make their life easier. How sad! It is two people coming together as a team and through all the good and the bad and the ugly, they work at it until they are dead. Men use to be men and you could count on them to be there for you. Same with women. Not anymore. I actually think that they (men& women) are only getting worse. They have no more values, morales, etc...I actually had a guy that I was interested in tell me that it was a horse race between me and his other girlfriend and we were both running neck and neck at the present time, but he wanted to know my body measurments in comparison to hers. Now that I think if it, I am wondering where the hell does this kind of guy learn to treat women like this? I never in my life have been talked to like that! I did tell him to go f*** himself, but by then it was too late. I really don't think I'll even bother trying to be in love again. This whole world has turned into one big speptic tank and I don't want to be a part of it. This is a cerebral approach and not coming from an emotional place. I have rung every drop of emotion out of my heart this past week and this is the best I got. If you love someone, there should never come a time to call it quits. Unless for the obvious reasons. You all know them!
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"I think people today think of marriage as a toy; something that can bring them pleasure or status or make their life easier. How sad! It is two people coming together as a team and through all the good and the bad and the ugly, they work at it until they are dead."

Well, I just had to crack up laughing at my own discription of what a marriage should be. Wasn't suppose to sould like a mule team!!! And sorry, I didn't mean to complain so much. When you've been stuck on Venus for a while, Earth doesn't look all that appealing again!!! LOL
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64.12 "IF" you love someone—?? As everything else in our lives changes so does the meaning of marriage. My marriage was NOT a marriage. It was not about two people giving, sharing, being there for one another, unconditional love. For many reasons. Maybe I was married too young, maybe I "thought" I knew what I was doing, maybe I should not have let my mother influence me on who to marry, maybe I should have trusted my instincts. The second we are born we know nothing except love. As we travel this path of life we experience many things which we let influence us and who we are. Who knows why we do what we do sometimes but we do it. This IS life. I am very glad that I did not stay in my marriage as I was living a "living death"....I so believe that death is not just of leaving our earthly bodies. We can be dead while we are living. I know because I have experienced it. I can now say that the choice I made to leave the person I was with has given me the opportunity to LIVE. I feel so alive and isn't this what living is all about? We get one chance to live here. Why not make it the best while we have been given this gift? Yes, we all make mistakes for we are humans. We have the ability as I have said before to choose our life to be a living hell or a living heaven. It is up to us. I have been on both sides and the choice I made for me was the one I needed to make. Not all choices are right for everyone and we must honor our heart. I will agree that life is confusing but don't ever give up on love. It is out there, it surrounds us everyday. Some of the people that I have spoken to who have divorced and experienced this type of thing have all come to the same conclusion. A marriage between two people who love each other will just flow, it will be easy. Fits like a glove. Why? because they respect each other, they honor each other, they are there for each other....it is when some of these important qualities are missing that it does not flow.

12.89 Ya think it is the same guy? Those cappies have some of the same qualities don't they?
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Though my sign is the leading authority on pessimism, I feel that I can only go higher from here. I have some very interesting friends, two most noteably are a Taurus male and a Gemini Female. I feel that while I've been able to keep going through everything on my own, it will take their help to get me to the mountain I'd like to climb.

I've only had one serious relationship and I got burned badly, and now I have this great fear of letting anyone else in. A few of my friends believe that I would be better of just going out and getting laid instead of trying to meet my wife. But that just isn't my cup of tea. While I'm not opposed to sex I enjoyed what I've experienced so far, I feel uncomfortable with the thought of promisciously running around dipping my carrot.

I've been trying to handle the relationship world but I just can't seem to get a crasp of it the way I've done with my career. At this stage in life I'm by far more successful than my friends, though I don't believe its enough. And I'm only going to improve, but finding lady to by with has been a wall that I can not traverse.

I could see myself marrying one woman and spending my life with her. I feel that marriage is a union of hearts and minds, where each partner gives themselves unconditional to the other.

Sorry for the endless rabble...

I wish you all luck in all your endevours.

The New Capricorn Guy

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Well, new Cap guy. Thanks for that. As a cap female, I tend to see things the same way. Purely sexual encounters leave me really unhappy and feeling empty, somewhat used, and totally unfulfilled. The pleasure factor doesn't even make up for it, but then again, I'm not a guy and I hear there are differences on that level...
However, having an unfulfilling relationship without intimacy and really good sex leaves me just as unhappy. So, where to find a mate I can trust, let in, have great sex with, and enjoy an intimate and life long relationship with? When i find the answer, I'll be sure to post!
Keep on posting!
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For the "New Cap Guy". I'm not sure if I'm a Cap in disguise or it's just the fact that I have morals and values but I couldn't have put it better than your post. And you're so right about women cuz I feel the same way about men. There has to be understanding, respect, tolerance and acceptance, as well as a meeting of the minds and hearts like you put it as well. It sure sounds like you should be with a really special person like yourself and I know you'll find her!

Not to worry I hear Caps actually become better with age and that they'll feel differently in mid-life (sometime after 40?) so hang in there, better days are ahead!
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I've been there for my friends quite a bit, in fact I'm sort of this life raft in their ocean of life. I'm not sure how I became so important to these people but I've always been there when they've had a problem, be it financially or emotionally. They've been there for me when I beat myself up with my self doubt.

I care for those people very much and feel the same in return. No matter what I've always felt everything works out always does. While things aren't as peachy as I'd like them to be, my life doesn't suck.

I only lack in the personal relationship area. I know what I want to do with myself and my life and I've been doing it, while finding someone to share my dreams and aspirations with has been somewhat difficult.

All Caps need to do what they do best, plug along despite the negatives and find the mountain with the greener grass.

The New Capricorn Guy

Out of curiosity ( 🙂 ) At what point do I stop being new and just become "The Capricorn Guy" or "Capricorn Guy"?

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New Capricorn Guy,

Hope you have a great trip!

I wanted to apologize for the conversations we had. I was hangin out with the boys that night, and they are a bad influence on me!!!
(Jim Beam, Jack Daniel, Evan, Johnny Walker and the rest of the boys). hehehe

Anyway talk to you when you get back.
You remind me an awful lot of that certain Scorpio, hmmmmmmmmm
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Hey NCG,

Glad you made it back ok!

You sound like you have your feet on the ground and are a very solid person. Then again, what do I know I have been fooled before in the past. You could be a ax murder for all I know.

Anyway if you are around one night again and I happen to be hangin with my friends again, maybe we can head on down to the produce section. Or somewhere different! hehe
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It seems like the last three weeks of my life hasn't been as good as they could've been. Work has been beyond hectic, and while working 18 hour days really doesn't bother me, it doesn't put me in a pleasant mood. And while I did have fun on my trip to Ft. Lauderdale, I did nothing but upset my friends. Well, thats how I perceived it anyway. While I'm trying to look on the positive side of things, it just seems that all isn't good in my world.

Also, out of curiosity. Have any other Caps or people who hang with or know/understand caps fairly well, notice that we have a built in anxiety disorder? Perhaps its just me, but I have the tendancy to worry about the most miniscule things. And if I'm not thinging about something productive, I take introspective look at myself. But doing this I always seem to intesify the things that I perceive as faults. Basically because I don't feel that who I am is good enough for anyone else.
While my faults aren't that bad, I make myself feel at times that they are the end all and be all of unacceptable traits.

Also, out of another curiosity(Yes I'm very curious, thank you for asking 🙂 ). Has anyone noticed that caps also seem to have a Manic/Depressive quality. Based on the above, when I get to thinking about certain things, I can depress myself pretty badly. However when I'm doing good at work, and I'm active in persuing activities I'm higher than a kite.

Thank you for you answers in advanced,

The New Capricorn Guy


On another note, L/S C:
My taste for seafood however limited, is excellent. I savor the flavour and texture of all I eat, and I eat with great vigor. Perhaps I can share a dish with you sometime. 🙂



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Hi NEW Cappy Guy!

Well, let me start off by saying that I have a good male Cappy friend and then I have another male Cappy friend who I don't know as well but, this is what they both have in common. Oh, do you want to know what I AM? (that should give you a BIG clue right there...Aries)
Okay, back to their commonality...they worry way too much about nothing. What they worry about never comes to pass...I do so believe that sometimes we can bring to us what we do worry about. Another thing that I have noticed about them both is that they do not think they are "good enough" for certain people or for themselves. I don't understand...it confuses me so. They both have such a wonderful sense of humor, sensitivity, loyalty, deep (very deep) passion/sensuality...that stays hidden for some reason. Ah...I also have experienced depression, moodiness, being a loner, can't sleep...yada, yada with them (they have told me this). It might help to look at the world through a different set of eyes or glasses...or maybe a new window! This is just my experience with these Cappy males. I find them very attractive, I wish they would let me into their heart, I wish they would open their heart. Not much I can do but still be their friend and be thankful for their friendship. You Cappies are very special people...
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NCG,

You're on, baby!

I don't know what's up with your other 'friends', but from the little bit I have conversed with you, you seem to be all about tenderness and caring!!!

I have my Saturn in Capricorn which is suppose to be significant!!?? I don't know much about it though.

If you don't mind, I am not feeling very good and my mind is going blank. Can I just tell you, I think you are a wonderful person, from what I know so far!! Sincerely! Here is a big huge squishy ((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))

I will be back later, and we'll see if we can get to the bottom of all of this!!

I am here for you!

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Hiya NCG! I hafta ask....are you really "my friend" in disguise? If it wasn't for the fact that you are single I'd have to say a big YES and that you were! Perhaps the 2 of you are long lost brothers but just haven't cought up to each other yet?

My friend works till all bizarre hours of the night but it's just an escape from the mrs. for him. He too is under alot of anxiety. I'm not sure if it's built in or not but I can tell you he does worry needlessly. Stuff that bothers him I would consider child's play. I think it's just new to him and probably new to you as well. Things that are new will ALWAYS cause anxiety. I have been thru new things that cause him anxiety several times over. It's called being challenged by life therefore not only can I deal with it but I'm used to it. As a matter of fact if there wasn't anxiety in my life I wouldn't know what to do with myself! I'd probably be shocked too! (I'm a Sag what can I say?)

I think what's happening in your life NCG is that YOU ARE LEARNING ABOUT LIFE AND YOURSELF! It's a wonderful thing. Don't be so hard on yourself and think that you're the only one going thru this. You're not. Sometimes, and I know we've all been there, we feel like we are all alone and that no one can possible understand what we're going thru because this can only be happening to us. We all go thru it. Be patient with yourself and don't be critical. Look upon these things as lessons we need to learn. And we do need to learn them. The Universe does nothing by accident. Everything happens for a reason NCG. Try to remember this whenever you're down. You sound just like me friend. Thoughts, everything you posted. With the exception of the seafood? I don't think I've EVER seen him eat seafood. He is however BIG on Perdue! I on the other hand love it!

Give yourself a break new guy and just enjoy life!


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Good Morning NCG,

Ok, I got my rest I needed and you should too, if you are working that many hours! What are you an intern in the emergency room of some hospital?

As far as the 'friends' go, I think you should let it be and not worry so much how they feel. What about how you feel?? Be kinder to yourself! Why is it your responsibility to make everyone happy??

Friends should be there for you in all circumstances. If they are good friends who care about you, then this will all work itself out.

Remember though, relationships don't just happen magically...they require effort and communication and committment!

Yes, I use to be somewhat nuerotic and never cut my self any slack, ever! I was always coming down hard on myself. When ever I screwed up, no one ever had to get on me for it, because I would do it myself!!! It has only been very recently, like in the last month if that, that I am starting to like who I am. I don't take things as personally anymore, I know who I am--my heart etc, and if someone doesn't like me that much, I say that's their problem, because I am one heck of a good person!

I think as you get older you will settle down and mellow. Like wine, baby; it only gets better with age. Especially with Capricorns from what I understand!

Ok, I may have to go grocery shopping tonight, and I'll be looking for ya!!!

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LS/C,

The more the merrier, but not to many don't want to get to crowded. I wish you luck in your love interest. However, I have Scorpio in Venus, perhaps I can woo you with a romantic candlelit dinner prepared by yours truly.

As for my job, I mainly write software for a Biomedical company. However lately I've shifted to tech support because of a bad virus issue we've had infected our network recently. But the owner of the company also owns other companies that I end up doing work for also.

About making people happy, I've always strived to make people happy. I don't know why but I've always tried to give my most and best to acheive those ends. And sometimes it lands me being used and screwed, but I still try anyway. I like seeing people happy, and making people happy, because it gives me a sense of happiness.

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NCG,

Ooooouuuu lala!!! Talk to me, baby! woo away!

Candlelights and dinner is a good start, but it's gonna take more than that!!! What's for desert—

Venus in Scorpio is very sexy, and we both have it.

You and me in the same kitchen, aahhhh better have the fire extinguishers handy, we might burn the place down!!!!!!!

And the food can we make it something(HOT & SPICY)? Any objections to exotic stuff—

Whatever you cook up I'm sure will be out of this world!

Maybe I should bring plenty of ice—

LS/C

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LS/C,

I love hot and spicy food, though I don't have any experience cooking anything exotic, like thai. Though I'm not opposed to exotic foods. But I have a fair hand at Italian, though a grew up eating it. Desert depends on how dinner goes 😉. You and I in the same room would set the roof ablaze.

A candlelit table set for two. Wine glasses half full with a light white wine, with more chilling in an ice bucket. Serving plates of angel hair pasta topped with sauted shrimp and a light alfredo sauce. A post dinner foot massage, accompanied by a back rub with lightly scented oil. The desert course is up in the air 🙂.

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12.89,

While I'm not your friend, I've read a few posts of yours about him and his situation. I'm a little worried about you because I was in a situation simular to the one your in now. Now this is all a matter of my opinion so you don't have to take anything I say in truth. However, It seems like your in this relationship Bermuda Triangle. There's a Culprit(His Wife), the Victim(Your friend), and the Rescuer(You). Now anything that happens or goes wrong in his relationship he runs to you for comfort and consoling. However he always returns to his wife. And your left wanting him to stay and be with you, but you accept that he has to go but he'll be back because they'll have problems again. Now I'm probably wrong in my observation, but I was in a simular situation. And I felt that you've might have the same deal.


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Hi NCG, yes the situation is extremely identical if not one in the same. Tell me what was the outcome of your situation?

Will this guy ever see the light for himself, not so much for me? I have not seen him in a while and don't really care one way or the other if I do anymore. The way I see is that if he really cared about me he would leave her and be with me. But you're right about the situation and it's not one I'm going to play anymore. I deserve better.
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NCG,

How's my favorite chef—

Yes, you do sound like a dream!!!! and I've pinched myself till it hurts.

I know how you feel about exploring unknow territory! Isn't this just about blowing smoke— I mean, you don't even know me! You might not even like me!! And even if we were crazy about each other, how in the world would we ever get to find out—

I must say though, you have put a big smile on this otherwise lonely face lately, and I thank you for that!

We can still go shopping together if you'd like! Who knows what tomorrow might bring! It's all in the stars, I reckon!

Thanks for making my days very happy and my nights...well, I needed that!

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For NCG, thank you for sharing what happened in your situation with me :o) It is painful isn't it? I'm glad you did what was best for you.

Today I received a beautiful e-mail from my "friend" on HOW HAPPY he was to hear from me? I e-mailed him yesterday and to tell you the truth didn't expect the response that I got but it did make me smile however. His words of choice are very confusing to me BUT one thing stands out and comes thru very loud and clear and that's his FEAR!

I'm coming to the conclusion that perhaps he's been sent into my life to teach me the ultimate of all tests and that's unconditonal love. Not sure but I can tell you this, I would rather have him in my world regardless of the type of love I have for him than NOT have him in my world at all regardless of the pain. I know it doesn't make sense but anyone who has come to know him would probably feel the same way. He is a beautiful person and a joy and someone that I love from the soul. The feeling is indescribable. The 2 of us are truly a meeting of the hearts, mind and soul.

Never say never with your lady friend NCG. Especially if you still care for her. The Universe works in mysterious ways to right wrongs just to make them as they should or were meant to be! Again thank you for sharing your personal experience into my experience.
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