The Scorpion & The Goat

Could someone give me some detailed insight into the typical dynamics between female Scorpios and male Capricorns? I ask because most of the information I've dug up on this subject only deals very broadly with Scorpio & Capricorn; as opposed to FEMALE Scorpio + MALE Capricorn. I have a very strange relationship with a Goat, we are good friends which sometimes fight, yet have a whole lot of sexual chemistry. I'm wondering where I should go with this, astrologically speaking. Thanks for your help!

P.S.: If this question looks familiar to you, it's because I posted it over on the Scorpio boards...just trying to get insight wherever I can! : )

Come on now...

There's got to be some Capricorns who can help me out here, this *is* the Capricorn board, isn't it? : )

Hi

I am in a similar situation but I am a cap female in love with a scorpio male. If you wish I will answer any questions you have as best I can but this will only be female views. Sorry cant be of more assistance but willing to help!

Hi there!

Sorry it took so long for me to respond; I was gone for a while. Anyway, don't feel bad that you can't be of more assistance--any and *all* help is equally appreciated! I'm glad at least ONE person responded to my question. : ) Anyway, I was just generally looking fr Caps to give me some insight into what they think of Scorpios, and if you have any perspective at all on that, please feel free to share, even if you are a female Cap.

Thanks again,
phoenix_rising

Hi Phoenix
What can I say but I have really only known one scorpio (in my early 30's gee that sad) and this person sweep me of my feet. I met this guy in work and he haunted me out theres no doubt about it now looking back. I have never felt anything so intense with anyone else and there was a powerfully strong sexual appeal between us. I think what happen to us both was that we became friends first - learned to trust each other and was starting to open up when well long story! Caps like to feel wanted, special but also like people who are steady, solid and who are also there friend. We caps can be a bit huffy and moody but you see we are ease hurt and people dont realise that as we seem aloof and unconcerned. I think scorpions and caps can understand each other very deeply. I found I could open up to this person and told him thinks that NO-ONE (even my husband of 13 years) knew about me. Scorpios seem to want to know and are prepared to wait and listen to when you are ready to talk and tell. Believe me that is a real turn on for a cap! Nothing superficial there! Really thats the point both signs want something real, something they are prepared to work for. The signs say we are compatible and want the same things - I believe that true especially if there is a bond there - you know the feeling of not wanting to leave the other - and then theres the sexual thing (animal attraction). They say scorpios the best lovers but hey the say capricorns are the earth sign that makes the earth move! Only thing I can say to help is if your caps does something strange or something you dont understand then ask me phoenix and if I have an insight to that I will tell (awe its as well were on computer or the caps would kill me for telling all (ha ha)). Best Wishes. Hellsbells!

Awesome, thank you for sharing your story with me! I completely feel ya there on having that intense chemistry and ability to tell each other things that you would never tell others.

I do in fact have some Capricorn mysteries that maybe you can help me solve. This Cap guy who I've known for probably eight years (since 7th grade) is trying to convince me that we should engage in a "no-strings-attached" affair. I am dating someone, and he is dating someone. BTW, his birthday is January 8th/mine's October 25th. Anyway, he's really pressing the issue and I won't lie, I am considering it...but the thing is, and I think he knows this, is that I was madly in love with him all through high school (though I didn't let on most of that time) and he and I made out on a couple of occasions, but he never wanted to make any kind of emotional committment or anything. So what do I do now? If you need more info, I can give it to you.

I do not know if this will help but I will share.

I had a cappy (male) friend for many years. We got along great and I so enjoyed being with him. As time went on...I learned patience. They do not get emotionally envolved as they are scared of committment...my friend said this to me. I'm not sure why they have this fear. Maybe some male Cap will share this with us. I have a feeling that they fear rejection, loss, being hurt emotionally, failure, taking risks. They like to play things safe. But, when we play things safe, we are not truly living as we then miss out on some wonderful moments that are gone forever. I wish you the best with your Cappy friend. When I was involved, I knew that it was just for fun and I kept my emotions in tact. I just enjoyed every moment with no regrets and with no expectations knowing that nothing is secure or safe. I sometimes feel bad that he was unable to be fully present in our time together. It will be all about your attitude in this situation. I hope this helps....have fun. 🙂

Hi there!

I agree with you on your theories of why they keep such an emotional distance. It's probably just a variety of fears. And I admire you for being able to keep your emotions in check w/your Cap guy; that's one thing I'm worried I won't be able to do. I've explained that to him and his favorite phrase is, "it's just sex". I wouldn't think that Capricorns would be interested in this type of stuff--brief affairs. At least, not based on their sun-sign descriptions. But isn't life surprising!

You said you learned patience...that's definitely something that I will need if I go through with this. I will have to be unassuming, and not expect anything from him that he cannot give. I will have to keep from being jealous of his relationship, as that would be hypocritical of me considering I have one too. Above all I will have to keep from falling in love with him again!

This should be interesting...lol ; )

Thanks again for your help guys--

phoenix

I too have a Cappy friend and perhaps you can shed some light on this.

We have known each other for 5 yrs. He is currently miserable married which in turn in causing him great amounts of anxiety. We have been intimate in the past as friends. A few months back he told me he loved me. I never got a chance to reply. Just recently we got together because I wanted an explanation of his "he loves me". In actuality I got none, but I got something along the line of "I don't want to lose you as a friend". He is being fearful or does he feel guilty because he is married regardless of the "misery"?

I was also at a loss as to his behavior. Talk about Dr. Jekly and Mr. Hyde. In the past he would NEVER talk about anything personal or private. It seemed he didn't trust me. When we got together recently he couldn't tell me enough about his past and personal life. I found this very strange and listened in disbelief.

I don't know what to make of this situation. Is this a common behavior for a Cappy to do this 360 degree turn around? Does he in fact love me and is just extremely confused on what to do about his marriage? Is this his way of him letting go of someone or is he telling me just the opposite? Talk about a mixed message!

Any insight from anyone involved with a Cappy or a Cappy themselves would be appreciated.

Hi all

Reading all your stories the one thing that strikes me is that you are all in the same boat!

Point One - When a cappie commits (usually) its for life (I myself stayed married for 13 years although my marriage was over one year after I married) this only changes when the person cant take anymore and I mean really cant take anymore or if there is something or someone who can and is competing for their emotions (and basically is winning over the bad)!

Point Two - Even if we are extremely unhappy the cappies favourite saying must be - we made our bed now we must lie in it.

Point Three - If a cappie is involved with you then he/she wants you (big time) and even when they say things like its only for sex, fun, whatever believe me they are testing you. We might want the sex (who doesnt) but deep down we are hiding our feelings. Cappies like commitment. Reasons like other parties can have a real devastating affect - torn between loyally and what we REALLY want. Best thing to do here personally I believe is to say no to something backhanded but to say and make it clear that you want them and you will wait until they are prepared to make that commitment - now dont go and disappear now but stay around show them you are serious apply a little pressure every now and again(not to much). Soon they will see you are serious but they must make a commitment too. (Time for that make or break decision.) If that decision is a break from you then leave it a while but if you find they strike up the friendship again or start telling you their life story believe me they have then realised that they have made a mistake (I told my scorpio friend to go away (too much pressure from outside sources) and now 6 months later I still deeply love my scorpio) so give the cappie time there is a lot going on underneath that cool exterior.

Point Four - Dont know if this is just me but dont think so. Cappies find it hard to accept that they are worthy of such love and happiness. Find it easier sometimes to be unhappy and just getting by - it takes a lot of understanding and soul searching from the individual or a really special someone to reach them and make them understand that everyone deserves to be truely happy!

Hope this answers some of your questions. Hellsbells

Message for Phoenix

Hi again - surprised about your cappie friend (either he is one of the not so good cappies or he's lying to you).

Personally I think he wants you bad and is afraid to say so. Playing this who cares game makes me think he is not so sure of how you feel. You said you have had a thing for him since 7th grade but with you hiding this and I'm sure at times coming across as I dont care is making him a little insecure. I think you should say to him that if he want to try with you and give it a go then its all or nothing and that both of you will be giving other partners up. Tell him you dont want a wishy-washy relationship or to be involved with a person who is not prepared to give a relationship his all. If he doesnt want you and only you! then forget him phoenix cause life and love can be hard enough with someone true and sincere with being involved with someone with alternative motives. (Maybe out of my patch here but) I think its time you took a look at the relationship your in phoenix - are you happy or is it time to call it a day! Get yourself in a position where you can grab what you really want with both hands when it comes along.

Best Wishes and Take Care Hellsbells

Well, I'm certainly the 'typical' Cappy female. I can be flirtatious to a point but am practical enough to know that I don't 'do' casual intimate relationships that one sweet Pisces guy required. I think for a Cappy that's an oxymoron.
Being practical I aim for a commitment with a stable and mature individual who plays no games. I do come across as aloof and reserved at first impression; but when I get to know someone and feel an attraction or that special chemistry, I open up more and more..in time. That's the keyword: Time. Patience is a must for anyone interested in dating a Cap. I think it was a wise person who penned: "Slow and steady wins the race".
I've had a friendship/relationship with a Scorp male some years back. Talk about chemistry! He was a 'looker', quite intelligent and such a charming gent. We were attuned to each other and I was smitten...and as I found out so were several other ladies in his 'secretive' life. Well, need I say more.. I didn't care for the competition and so ended another 'love affair'. But I do think Scorps and Caps make an ideal match- astrology or no astrology!haha...

You're right on target in stating that we do stay in relationships for life (if possible). I've been married for 11 yrs (now separated and seeking a divorce- but because of alcoholism/drug use by my Taurus hubby.)I suffered years of pain thinking I could help to 'fix' the broken situation. Yes, we Caps will do ALL to the best of our ability before throwing up our arms in utter disgust and hopelessness.. Think I was cautious before? Guess who's super-cautious when it comes to new relationships now!LOL k>

But when does a Cappy have enough? Right now my friend is in such extreme anxiety in his marriage that he's only getting a FEW hours of sleep a nite. I'm not sure of what's going on, but obviously she does not want to make it work?

What in a marriage would cause a Cappy such extreme anx.? He's usually very laid back in my presence so I can only assume she must be driving him crazy!

If a Cappy is under this much pressure will he still stick around in the marriage? When is their breaking point?

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As I said before we like to hang in to the end. Maybe your cappie friend is waiting for his partner to leave as this would free him from feeling guilty. You see if he walks out now he will spend at least the next few months going through it all asking himself - did I do enough, was there something else I could of done, have I hurt that person I once loved more than necessary etc etc. If she leaves him then he will have a reasonably clear conscious - sad I know but hey its how a cappie works. I would say your cappie is on the borderline - just be his friend, let him talk if he wants, let him know your there but dont apply any pressure in regard to your relationship together. Sounds like he's enough to sort out and deal with at the moment. Good Luck and keep us informed. Hellsbells

Thanks Hellsbells. Our relationship is truly unique. I have loved him unconditionally since I met him 5yrs ago. During these 5 yrs. is when he got married.

You said "if they tell you their life history they've realized they've made a mistake". Do you mean this mistake is the woman he married?? If so will he still stay in the marriage on account of loyalty?

I can truly relate to Caps though, my mom is one, bro is another and everything you've posted is right on the $ $ $ . My only comment is whey don't these Caps LEAVE their miserable conditions in marriage? My bro has now turned to alcohol as an escape rather than dump her sorry _ss or leave. Is life not short enough that one would go and put up with unhappiness on top of that? I just don't get it.

As for your Scorp, if you love him, tell him and get him back! Thanks for your insight into this and sharing your thoughts.

Hi everybody!

God, you guys are AWESOME; all of your posts have been extrememly helpful. My problem now is that I haven't talked to him in 3 weeks because I told him I *would* if you know what I mean, and that when I got back from my trip we would set up a time to get together. Well, now I'm internally freaking out with anxiety about how this is all going to end up. Here's what bugs me: I told him I was in love with him in High School and this is what he said: "I just want to have fun with girls right now. It's natural that you were in love, it happens, but I'm just looking to mess around".

Grrrrr. So I said, "Thanks fo rbeing honest, so, what, so I was completely imagining that we had a connection? That was all in my head?" And he said, "We have a good friend connection, and I was really attracted to you". At which point I'm in complete shock, because I've never in my life been wrong about feeling that romantic vibe thing. So I said, "You never had 'i-like-her or i-would-date-her' feelings?" to which he replied, "Faint ones".

He has stated that regardless of what my decision is, he's not breaking up with his girlfriend, and he wants me in his life in some capacity.

He knows perfectly well (I think) that I adore him and always have though he gets on my nerves with this kind of stuff from time to time. So is he feigning detachment for some reason or is he really just a big fat pig jerk? lol

love,
phoenix

Hi Phoenix, If I was in your position (and I sorta am) I would not have sex with him. Repeat would not. Not while he has a girlfriend anyway. Caps tend to test people. He's now testing YOUR respectability believe it or not. And yes he is lying about the stuff he told you AND he really does care.

I don't know how old you guys are or how long you've been friends, but if you want him for keeps let him come to you but make it clear that you want it to be exclusive. He'll consider you a challenge if you do it that way. If you become his "other girl" he may think otherwise of you.

Of course we may not end up with them but then we have to tell ourselves that the Universe has something better planned for us instead.

I to am freaking out not knowing what the outcome will be. But like the lady said it'll take Time and Patience..Slow and Steady. Geez I'm a Sag and although I have Taurus rising and have tons of patience when it comes to matters of the heart w/Venus in Sag I HAVE NONE!

I wish us both well in this endeavor!

Oh how funny, I have my Venus in Sagittarius as well. : ) I can't remember if I already said that. Oh well...BTW, he and I are both 20. You know what's horrible that I'm thinking? I'm thinking that yes, it's possible he's testing my respectability, but on the other hand, if I don't go through with this and he ends up like marrying this other girl, I will be completely crushed! : ( I know that sounds so typical-girl that I'm worried about that, but at the same time, what if he gets irritated that I've changed my mind? I've changed it once before already, from yes-just-don't-treat-me-like-the-other-woman-, to, no-freaking-way-you're-going-to-lose-respect-for-me, to okay, yes, but I don't want to be "one of many" if you know what I mean. LOL. He says whatever happens won't change his opinion of me good OR bad, but how is that humanly possible?! Oh, such turmoil. Sixty percent of me says no, we shouldn't do this it will change everything, and forty percent is going, maybe if we do this he'll actually consider me as a relationship prospect. And I cringe when I say that, because I know how lame that sounds...

I wish us both well too, thank you! : )

phoenix

pheonix,
being a cap myself maybe i can give you some advise.. caps love respectability and see themselves as respectable (no matter how it seems to others..lol) if you want to gain or keep his respect i would suggest you tell him exactly how you feel but state that you will IN NO WAY start seeing him until he has RESOLVED things with this other girl..
(caps love everything to be resolved and clear..)
i think he wants to make sure of you before he commits... things could not be very good for him and the other if he is making passes at you.... but i think you will find if you make things cut and dry he will see you have thought about this very seriously (caps love serious... lol!!) and that you mean what you say.... just make sure you DO mean what you say or no-one will be happy.... you will gain his respect- and for a cap, respect IS love.
i hope you have patience because this may be take awhile...
good luck and may you find good love!

Phoenix,

I agree with all who said not to give in to him...not until he is single!
If he really wants you...he will prove it!
If you give in...he will perhaps want to continue to be your 'back door man'...but, nothing more...
Respect and integrity mean a lot to a Cap...
Take Care!

Thanks you guy--You ROCK!! I completely get what you're saying. What I need to do now is figure out what I realy want--which I think is to be loved 100% , not just in the boudoir.

If he can't provide that for me, it's not gona work on ANY level, because I'm really no good at the "unattached" sex thing. It's just impossible for me. Granted, I've never had it-- w/the exception of a one-night stand w/a Virgo (who was wonderful and fabulous because he made me feel respected and cared for, and he called me after! lol)
However, I feel in my soul that I couldn't do it. I could pretend for sure, but that wouldn't last long. The jealousy on my part would drive me insane and I'm sure all that bottled-up passionate crap would come out full force at some point, which could not only ruin our friendship but consequently any possible or accroding to him, IMpossible relationship in the future. I should never have given him the idea that it was an option in the first place! But, once again, a learning lesson. Life can really suck!

You guys rock for all your advice...

Love,
phoenix_rising (aka Heather)

Phoenix, YOU rock! Keep up being you and finding your strength...this will carry you far in life. This experience has come to you so that you may find this awesome strength within. How else would you know if not for this lesson?

I too am going through something of the same sort....I know how you are feeling. Perservere and you will know victory. I have this Cap friend who leaves and keeps coming back into my world. I am sorry that he cannot make up his mind but I must go on living my life as it is too short. Miracles around every corner, surprises and chocolate fudge ice cream await me! Ah........life! You can do it!

Woo hoo, chocolate fudge ice cream, I love it!! : )

I know a great quote by someone whose name escapes me: "Without men, there would be lots of fat, happy women running around." LOL.

Well, I'm still gathering my courage to tell him no, hopefully he'll understand...I'm gonna tell him by the end of this week, no later. That's the amount of time I'm giving myself. You know, it's too bad, if he would just have some actual feelings toward me other than sexual ones, or admit it if he has ones that he's hiding, this would be the most natural thing in the world for us. Unfortunately, I'm nobody's back-door WOMAN. And life IS too short to creep around, risking a fine relationship for some dude who doesn't know what he's missing.

The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that he's such a shallow person. But that's alright, maybe he secretly wants me to say no just to see how much I'll let him get away with. I could analyze it forever, but are these guys really worth that trouble?! LOL : )

good luck w/ your situation as well--hopfully these little boys will come around someday!

phoenix_rising

Hey Phoenix, I think I was enlightened by last nite's solar eclipse - LOL. I'm with you. I too am pissed off. How these guys can first of all...play with one's emotions is above and beyond me. I DON'T CARE HOW FEARFUL THEY ARE. Second I'm having a hard time trying to understand the old "because they don't feel they deserve to be loved or be happy". What kind of _rap is that?

I for one am looking for an equal in the love department. One who does think he is worthy of both love and joy. Someone on one of these boards posted this..."Circumstances don't make the man, they reveal him". Hmmmm I keep playing this saying over and over in my mind. I feel for these Caps (although I'm sure not all of them are the same, but they sure seem that way to me.)

I would definitely confront your friend by the end of the week. At least you'll get closure on it. And good for you for sticking to your morals! Let me know the results. As for mine, I don't think he's worth my effort anymore, and it's off to greener pastures!

Butter Pecan ice cream anyone?! YUM!

I'll take some of that Butter Pecan Ice Cream! It's the "nuts" that are having all the fun 🙂

"Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held it's ground." ~unknown

Ok some one please tell me what is the big deal with a scorpio and a cappy. Why do a cappy like a scorpio so much or want to be with them. My cappy told me that is all he has every had was a scorpio and I asked him why one day not including the sex, and he said communication. I know we scorpio's love to talk about everything, and I know that when I am with him I initiate most of the conversation. Sometimes when we are together and I am in one of my moods he normally starts the conversation of course it is about current events something he heard on the news and I like that sometimes I don't want to start the conversation and he has to know when the step in or I will be quiet and won't say nothing and then when his conversations don't work he then ask me am I mad about something. I know there is a desired passion from the both of us but there as got to be more to it then what I have seen.

Hello all!! Long time huh! Well I just wanted to stop by, and low and behold the first topic I come to hits the nail on the head. Yup you guessed it, I am having major problems with my Scorp, and yes I am a Capp. The old ones here will recall all the problems we had before well we are not married but we have been living together for only about 3-4 months and we just bought a new house. It seems like these last 2 months have been absolutely horrible!!!! I am hanging by a string and do not know what to do!!!!! First off he has a major attitude problem it SUCKS!!!! I feel like I am trying but I feel there is no communication about our feelings, yes I tell him how I feel which is rare cuz I really don?t care to express my feelings, and he is very quite and holds everything inside. Sometimes I feel like he doesn?t love me he never tells me, well he told me once in the middle of the night when he was half a sleep and he will tell me sometimes when he is drunk— Go figure, every thing is so out of control right now I feel we are on the verge of major break up and it will be forever. And to tell you the truth the only reason I am staying with him right now is for security reasons and my children.... I feel lost, hopeless, and empty!!!! And you know when Capps are not happy well our life?s feel like they are out of control!! I just don?t know what to do any more and there is much more to it, and I really don?t feel like writing it all down. What do guys think?

So you are dealing with a Scorpio Man, I personally think they are liers and I will never be with one again. We damn near killed each other.