Do gems get cold/distant when falling in love....

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Before you SCOFF and bite my head off, I was told this by a gem on here who I very much believe, that I'm being "tested" to see if I can handle the twin behavior. Just curious what the hive mind thought about this..my gem was super into me...told me he was falling in love..then he started getting very emotional and volatile and seeming to dislike me...very reactionary. He left on a trip and was very sweet to me , told me he missed me etc...but he wasn't the same when he came back. Every time we hung out he had issues with me and seemed in a bad mood, yet when I said "hey lets leave you dont really seem into this" he said he wouldn't be here if he didn't wanna be. But he still got angry at me for cracking a joke. And left. Wtf?!

Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case. Thoughts? Have y'all acted this way toward someone you like? Or someone you don't....plz just gimme helpful advice, I care for him and really just wanna understand him better. And also know If I should not waste any more time. Thanks so much!!
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Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case.
What did he say when you told him that? Have you seen him since?

I'm invested in the continuing saga of boxcarmirnta and her gem, I have to know!!

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ha! He did not respond to that. He was angry at me. We have spoken briefly about other things and I haven't seen him and now he's out of town for awhile to work on a farm. He hasn't reassured me or anything. Its like he wants to pick fights with me. Thanks for your interest...i think yr dude cares much more about you than mine does about me!!
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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.

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So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...
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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.


So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...



Hey, I may be single, but I'm not looking to mingle.

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I was referring to your advice to the op above...
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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.

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hahaaaa......all sound good to me.

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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.


So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...


Fuck with his head by giving him lots and lots of space. Distant yourself and give him the silent treatment.

The biggest fear of a Gemini is when the person we truly love refused to communicate. Hehehaha!

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Word!! Will do..that was kinda the plan...
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Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case.
What did he say when you told him that? Have you seen him since?

I'm invested in the continuing saga of boxcarmirnta and her gem, I have to know!!



ha! He did not respond to that. He was angry at me. We have spoken briefly about other things and I haven't seen him and now he's out of town for awhile to work on a farm. He hasn't reassured me or anything. Its like he wants to pick fights with me. Thanks for your interest...i think yr dude cares much more about you than mine does about me!!

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Idk. He doesn't really say much except for text now and then saying he misses me. He watched my dog all today, took her to work with him and everything (I have a long day travelling), how sweet is that. It's stuff like that which makes me think he cares.

I'm sorry yours is being a douche rn. Hopefully he comes around.

If I was you I would wait a few days to let him cool off and then send him a cute text. Something noncommittal that doesn't need a response from him. Like, "Been thinking of you, miss your hugs". That way you remind him that your there.

Have the serious talk about the shit that's gone down face to face.

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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.


So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...


Fuck with his head by giving him lots and lots of space. Distant yourself and give him the silent treatment.

The biggest fear of a Gemini is when the person we truly love refused to communicate. Hehehaha!



Word!! Will do..that was kinda the plan...


Haha and you pisces are damn fuking good with that. You think I don't know that ey?! 😆

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I'm def good with the giving space thing! A little harder to fuck with someone..I'm a straight shooter but if hes gonna fuck with me...i can dish it right back...
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Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case.
What did he say when you told him that? Have you seen him since?

I'm invested in the continuing saga of boxcarmirnta and her gem, I have to know!!



ha! He did not respond to that. He was angry at me. We have spoken briefly about other things and I haven't seen him and now he's out of town for awhile to work on a farm. He hasn't reassured me or anything. Its like he wants to pick fights with me. Thanks for your interest...i think yr dude cares much more about you than mine does about me!!


Idk. He doesn't really say much except for text now and then saying he misses me. He watched my dog all today, took her to work with him and everything (I have a long day travelling), how sweet is that. It's stuff like that which makes me think he cares.

I'm sorry yours is being a douche rn. Hopefully he comes around.

If I was you I would wait a few days to let him cool off and then send him a cute text. Something noncommittal that doesn't need a response from him. Like, "Been thinking of you, miss your hugs". That way you remind him that your there.

Have the serious talk about the shit that's gone down face to face.

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that's definitely a thoughtful thing to do! Aww... He used to do that shit for me til THE CHANGE.. Thanks for the advice!
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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.


So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...


Fuck with his head by giving him lots and lots of space. Distant yourself and give him the silent treatment.

The biggest fear of a Gemini is when the person we truly love refused to communicate. Hehehaha!


😭 this is so true.

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Awww...poor lil gemmies 😢 if ya just wouldn't push us away so damn much!
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I doubt he is playing games.

Non the less, he sure sounds like a shy one (when it comes to his feelings). We can't handle ourselves sometimes.

Yes he seems completely out of control with his feelings...


Give him time. Push his buttons. Make sweet, sweet love to him.


So which is it? Give him space or fuck with his head...


Fuck with his head by giving him lots and lots of space. Distant yourself and give him the silent treatment.

The biggest fear of a Gemini is when the person we truly love refused to communicate. Hehehaha!


😭 this is so true.


Awww...poor lil gemmies 😢 if ya just wouldn't push us away so damn much!
Aqua moon eh? Noice! 😄

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Most of my chart's aqua...that's why I get along so well with you dudes
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Before you SCOFF and bite my head off, I was told this by a gem on here who I very much believe, that I'm being "tested" to see if I can handle the twin behavior. Just curious what the hive mind thought about this..my gem was super into me...told me he was falling in love..then he started getting very emotional and volatile and seeming to dislike me...very reactionary. He left on a trip and was very sweet to me , told me he missed me etc...but he wasn't the same when he came back. Every time we hung out he had issues with me and seemed in a bad mood, yet when I said "hey lets leave you dont really seem into this" he said he wouldn't be here if he didn't wanna be. But he still got angry at me for cracking a joke. And left. Wtf?!

Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case. Thoughts? Have y'all acted this way toward someone you like? Or someone you don't....plz just gimme helpful advice, I care for him and really just wanna understand him better. And also know If I should not waste any more time. Thanks so much!!

I think you lost that momentum with your Gem.... that special moment to make it to a relationship. Should have happened before he left on a vacation.

YOu could always pretend like you are meeting him for the first time :-p

Or bring up some sweet memories that you guys shared.

Thing is, if someone leaves us alone for too long after a break up(when not in a committed relationship) we move on. We wait for a while for the other person to reconnect, if it doesn't happen we move on. Not necessarily onto another person. Or if we reach out and you don't reply, after few days or even weeks we don't wait.

We drift away.

I would suggest text him somethinf very funny, funny or something to which he could reply. If it is something he could reply, you could try from his reply.

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I'm not sure how I lost it . ..he left and i thought everything was great, he came back and wasn't the same person...he didn't meet anyone new. He knew he had to go away again soon, to work, I thought maybe that was what was bothering him...I don't know. I gave him lots of space but not too much. He was just angry a lot and then left again. ?
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Gemini needs mental stimulation, change, basically they love mind games...the same with Aquas.

They are actual people that love that...however, if you're not good at it yourself, be prepared to lose.

No Vixen, I doubt this. I hate mind games. The minute mind games come into play, the other person will never get to see the real me. But we like mystery and the guessing games.... there is a difference.

Most signs don't get us because we live in the moment.

😢


Perhaps the "guessing games" part confuses people...

I know my bestfriend Brooke is a Gem...and the ultimate mind gamer and she loves it...I don't know her moon though, but I digress as that's my only experience...



I know i hate mind games. Having said that, if someone who I'm into tries to manipulate or engages in Mind games, its fair play then but it doesn't end nicely. I have walked out on people after giving them back what thsy tried hard to give me. It never led to a relationship. 😢

The thing is to let us unwrap you, it appeals to our curious nature. We are so like a Kid with a Gift. If some one is in our face Or over shares, somehow we get bored. But doesn't happen once we are committed.

Man,Geminis! SMh

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I totally agree, that's how it felt..him slowly unwrapping me..and I am very mysterious in general or so I'm told...I'm never in someone's face...i dunno what happened.
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@instantkarma is this typical for gems? This temper and flying off the handle bizz? The bipolar moods you speak of...i just wanna understand it..if possible, thx.

Hmmmm not with all Gems you know.

Let me look at the charts.

Astrology forum i have opened my synastry thread. If you like i can look into them.

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I don't know how to do the synastry thing nor do I know how to post pics in here....can I just give you our charts to the best of my knowledge?
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Before you SCOFF and bite my head off, I was told this by a gem on here who I very much believe, that I'm being "tested" to see if I can handle the twin behavior. Just curious what the hive mind thought about this..my gem was super into me...told me he was falling in love..then he started getting very emotional and volatile and seeming to dislike me...very reactionary. He left on a trip and was very sweet to me , told me he missed me etc...but he wasn't the same when he came back. Every time we hung out he had issues with me and seemed in a bad mood, yet when I said "hey lets leave you dont really seem into this" he said he wouldn't be here if he didn't wanna be. But he still got angry at me for cracking a joke. And left. Wtf?!

Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case. Thoughts? Have y'all acted this way toward someone you like? Or someone you don't....plz just gimme helpful advice, I care for him and really just wanna understand him better. And also know If I should not waste any more time. Thanks so much!!
what you experienced with your gem guy was not a gem thing but a male thing. it's called the rubber band effect. Dr. Grey wrote a neat, little book on this subject: Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

Men love their independence and often feel "pressured" to commit.....Men are commit phobic UNTIL they know YOU are the ONE. Before that, all bets are off. Often men demonstrate this through inner frustration that looks to you as if he's pissed off at you etc. In revealing his "falling in love" with you, he opened himself up to being vulnerable. Guys HATE being vulnerable. Pure and simple. And they won't feel comfortable being vulnerable until they are in a committed relationship and know that you will not hurt them when they let their guard down. Men fear rejection more than they fear losing someone they may be falling in love with.

I'm a female gem and when I was falling for my husband, i never grew distance (pushed him away etc.) However, on a long 6 week out of state clinical where I had to go on my own leaving him behind, the distance drew me closer to him.

I've had other "guy" friends who can on occasion make me want to distance myself from them, however, I don't have the same type of feelings for a friend as I do someone I'm in love with. The ONLY time I purposely distanced myself from a man I was dating prior to meeting my husband was when this individual seemed to hold me to a different standard from himself. My BS meter went off quickly and I moved on.
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Before you SCOFF and bite my head off, I was told this by a gem on here who I very much believe, that I'm being "tested" to see if I can handle the twin behavior. Just curious what the hive mind thought about this..my gem was super into me...told me he was falling in love..then he started getting very emotional and volatile and seeming to dislike me...very reactionary. He left on a trip and was very sweet to me , told me he missed me etc...but he wasn't the same when he came back. Every time we hung out he had issues with me and seemed in a bad mood, yet when I said "hey lets leave you dont really seem into this" he said he wouldn't be here if he didn't wanna be. But he still got angry at me for cracking a joke. And left. Wtf?!

Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case. Thoughts? Have y'all acted this way toward someone you like? Or someone you don't....plz just gimme helpful advice, I care for him and really just wanna understand him better. And also know If I should not waste any more time. Thanks so much!!
what you experienced with your gem guy was not a gem thing but a male thing. it's called the rubber band effect. Dr. Grey wrote a neat, little book on this subject: Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

Men love their independence and often feel "pressured" to commit.....Men are commit phobic UNTIL they know YOU are the ONE. Before that, all bets are off. Often men demonstrate this through inner frustration that looks to you as if he's pissed off at you etc. In revealing his "falling in love" with you, he opened himself up to being vulnerable. Guys HATE being vulnerable. Pure and simple. And they won't feel comfortable being vulnerable until they are in a committed relationship and know that you will not hurt them when they let their guard down. Men fear rejection more than they fear losing someone they may be falling in love with.

I'm a female gem and when I was falling for my husband, i never grew distance (pushed him away etc.) However, on a long 6 week out of state clinical where I had to go on my own leaving him behind, the distance drew me closer to him.

I've had other "guy" friends who can on occasion make me want to distance myself from them, however, I don't have the same type of feelings for a friend as I do someone I'm in love with. The ONLY time I purposely distanced myself from a man I was dating prior to meeting my husband was when this individual seemed to hold me to a different standard from himself. My BS meter went off quickly and I moved on.

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Yes I've heard of this..although I dont necessarily agree with mr grey...its an interesting take for sure...(cont)
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And I do know men fear rejection terribly so much so they'll turn on you before you turn on them...which is lame cuz I'm not gonna. Its like beat you to the punch..buy they're so afraid they sabotage their relationships sadly! Anyway I gave him plenty of space ....didnt pester him, if that's what he's afraid of there isn't much I can do.
that's because it's ALL ABOUT THE FRAGILE MALE EGO. End of story.

I'd be interested to know what you don't agree with Dr. Gray on?
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And I do know men fear rejection terribly so much so they'll turn on you before you turn on them...which is lame cuz I'm not gonna. Its like beat you to the punch..buy they're so afraid they sabotage their relationships sadly! Anyway I gave him plenty of space ....didnt pester him, if that's what he's afraid of there isn't much I can do.
that's because it's ALL ABOUT THE FRAGILE MALE EGO. End of story.

I'd be interested to know what you don't agree with Dr. Gray on?

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Agreed. I think some of his concepts are super outdated and sexist. And very black and white, cut and dried...too many very basic gender stereotypes. But I gleaned what I could from it.
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I do this, I also pick fights cause I'm afraid of someone getting too close to me.
Good to know thank you! How would you advise me responding/going forward?
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Well I'm pretty commitment phobic so as soon as I feel someone is getting too close I retreat. I also try to figure out other people. When I'm quiet its cause I'm thinking or trying to suss out the other person. If he's distant, go about your life and don't let it bother you, he'll miss you soon enough and make more effort. Usually I don't know how I feel and get confused by emotions so talking about it might be the worst thing you could do because he probably doesn't even know how he feels.
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And I do know men fear rejection terribly so much so they'll turn on you before you turn on them...which is lame cuz I'm not gonna. Its like beat you to the punch..buy they're so afraid they sabotage their relationships sadly! Anyway I gave him plenty of space ....didnt pester him, if that's what he's afraid of there isn't much I can do.
I don't think this is just a man thing 😄
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I do this, I also pick fights cause I'm afraid of someone getting too close to me.
Good to know thank you! How would you advise me responding/going forward?
Well I'm pretty commitment phobic so as soon as I feel someone is getting too close I retreat. I also try to figure out other people. When I'm quiet its cause I'm thinking or trying to suss out the other person. If he's distant, go about your life and don't let it bother you, he'll miss you soon enough and make more effort. Usually I don't know how I feel and get confused by emotions so talking about it might be the worst thing you could do because he probably doesn't even know how he feels.
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Thanks! I'm a total commitment phobe too! I always sorta disappear..its hard. I have been giving him lots of space just txting a tiny bit. I was surprised at how well he was able to articulate his feelings...but I think the deeper it gets the harder it is for him to indentify. He needs major work in that area.. I won't press him..just see what happens I guess...
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Before you SCOFF and bite my head off, I was told this by a gem on here who I very much believe, that I'm being "tested" to see if I can handle the twin behavior. Just curious what the hive mind thought about this..my gem was super into me...told me he was falling in love..then he started getting very emotional and volatile and seeming to dislike me...very reactionary. He left on a trip and was very sweet to me , told me he missed me etc...but he wasn't the same when he came back. Every time we hung out he had issues with me and seemed in a bad mood, yet when I said "hey lets leave you dont really seem into this" he said he wouldn't be here if he didn't wanna be. But he still got angry at me for cracking a joke. And left. Wtf?!

Yes I've posted about him before...anyway I've concluded he just doesn't like me, and told him so. I'm just confused about why he'd bother hanging out if that is the case. Thoughts? Have y'all acted this way toward someone you like? Or someone you don't....plz just gimme helpful advice, I care for him and really just wanna understand him better. And also know If I should not waste any more time. Thanks so much!!
what you experienced with your gem guy was not a gem thing but a male thing. it's called the rubber band effect. Dr. Grey wrote a neat, little book on this subject: Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

Men love their independence and often feel "pressured" to commit.....Men are commit phobic UNTIL they know YOU are the ONE. Before that, all bets are off. Often men demonstrate this through inner frustration that looks to you as if he's pissed off at you etc. In revealing his "falling in love" with you, he opened himself up to being vulnerable. Guys HATE being vulnerable. Pure and simple. And they won't feel comfortable being vulnerable until they are in a committed relationship and know that you will not hurt them when they let their guard down. Men fear rejection more than they fear losing someone they may be falling in love with.

I'm a female gem and when I was falling for my husband, i never grew distance (pushed him away etc.) However, on a long 6 week out of state clinical where I had to go on my own leaving him behind, the distance drew me closer to him.

I've had other "guy" friends who can on occasion make me want to distance myself from them, however, I don't have the same type of feelings for a friend as I do someone I'm in love with. The ONLY time I purposely distanced myself from a man I was dating prior to meeting my husband was when this individual seemed to hold me to a different standard from himself. My BS meter went off quickly and I moved on.

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Yeah, this is true... 🙂
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And I do know men fear rejection terribly so much so they'll turn on you before you turn on them...which is lame cuz I'm not gonna. Its like beat you to the punch..buy they're so afraid they sabotage their relationships sadly! Anyway I gave him plenty of space ....didnt pester him, if that's what he's afraid of there isn't much I can do.
that's because it's ALL ABOUT THE FRAGILE MALE EGO. End of story.

I'd be interested to know what you don't agree with Dr. Gray on?


Agreed. I think some of his concepts are super outdated and sexist. And very black and white, cut and dried...too many very basic gender stereotypes. But I gleaned what I could from it.
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So what concepts do you conclude are super outdated and sexist? Just curious because often people post generalizations without substantial examples of what they are referring to. I'd like to seriously know what you find outdated and sexist. thanks

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And I do know men fear rejection terribly so much so they'll turn on you before you turn on them...which is lame cuz I'm not gonna. Its like beat you to the punch..buy they're so afraid they sabotage their relationships sadly! Anyway I gave him plenty of space ....didnt pester him, if that's what he's afraid of there isn't much I can do.
that's because it's ALL ABOUT THE FRAGILE MALE EGO. End of story.

I'd be interested to know what you don't agree with Dr. Gray on?


Agreed. I think some of his concepts are super outdated and sexist. And very black and white, cut and dried...too many very basic gender stereotypes. But I gleaned what I could from it.
So what concepts do you conclude are super outdated and sexist? Just curious because often people post generalizations without substantial examples of what they are referring to. I'd like to seriously know what you find outdated and sexist. thanks

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Its probably been ten years since I read the book I'd have to read it again to give specifics. I think its very biased toward men tho and women having to cater to THEIR needs and not vice versa. I remember thinking if I have to sacrifice my own needs this much, BC supposedly all men are the same, its not worth it to me. And I'm pretty sure I didn't fit into his woman mold at all.
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hmm, interesting. I really never got that impression. for me, it was more about him basically supporting the fact that biologically, men and women have certain "roles" based upon our innate hard wiring.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about women needing to stay in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. LOL

More about the fact that attraction is based upon both masculine and feminine energy. Women have always attracted men because of our feminine qualities and women have always been attracted to men because of their masculine qualities. Granted, none of us is JUST one or the other. Both genders share some qualities IE:

Compassion is feminine, but men can be compassionate. Competition if masculine, but women can be competitive. I am a perfect example of that. I'm probably more competitive than most men.

Even with those tendencies, you need yin and yan....there is NO sexual energy without it. When he talks about needs etc. I believe he's underlying our natural innate needs that are there for a purpose. IE: Women love to share our feelings because it's how we communicate. Men OTOH, don't like to open up about their feelings with a woman. It makes them feel vulnerable, so men instead chose to go to their cave and debrief.

To me, that's not catering, that's just simple biological wiring. And it's not to say that 'ALL' men or women behave exactly like this, however, most do.

To me, it's kind of like this. I bring strengths to my marriage which are both feminine and sometime masculine. My husband compliments me by bringing his strengths, which may be my weaknesses or issues I'm not good at. There is not right nor wrong. No one is above the other. It's simply biology and hardwiring. It's been this way for ions. Without getting into a big discussion about feminism etc., I do think some of the roles have been put in limbo because of how roles have been somewhat re defined. And no, I'm talking about keeping us in a 1950's society. I'm very much into doing many things men can do. That's good. I'm ok with men doing some things women historically have done. So I'm not saying there's anything wrong, there isn't. What I am saying is that NO MATTER what both genders do in a Hetero relationship, there will always been attraction based upon the ebb and flow of masculine vs feminine.

RE: Gay couples, I honestly am not an expert on that, but would think there still has to be some type of yin vs yan thing going on. For any attraction to occur, there has to be polarity. This is true in human biology to basic science.
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Well I definitely see what you're saying @gemini64 and probably agree with some of it. I just think there's a lot of wiggle room. Genders are more fluid now and androgynous and that's a good thing I think. I certainly don't fit a traditional female mold in anyway, and I like feminine dudes. And I need lots of space and would prefer my own cave. I don't open up to men very often.