Do leos need to be scared into commitment?

Well, I had a very interesting conversation with little leo last night.

We fought for a bit and I said I wasn't sure if I wanted to see him anymore given his lack of reliability, etc. I said I wanted to get to know him and I am being denied that opportunity. I guess some of what I said sunk into him because he called me back about a half hour later and appologized. He said he wants to do this right this time and he wants to make me happy. He is going to stop acting sketchy and basically get it together.

After a bit of convincing, I agreed to see him again. I am pretty hestitant about him at this point so he is really going to have to prove himself to me.

It seems all the male leos I know, need to come to the brink of losing the person before they get themselves straightened out.

Thoughts?

He said. The only thoughts I had when I read that is "We'll see" huh? It worked for now but only time will tell if what you said really sunk in.

((little sparrow)) hang in there. What he says and what he actually does in the long run are two different things. He does need to prove himself to you.

Exactly.

This is his last chance.

I understand that he just broke-up with a long-term live in gf, etc ... as a result is a bit manic but come on! I really hope I got through to him. I think I did.

(If not there is always the volleyball team that has a crush on me. lol!)

*** He told me that when he starts getting in a serious relationship with someone then he doesn't want them anymore....

Bullshit is right!

Glad you moved on chocolate.

Hey guys...the thing about most Leos is that we hate to loose in the game of love. We will do everything we can to make a situation work b/4 we give up (whether the relationship is worth the fight or not). I think that he will try to make an effort. However, his actions will speak louder than his words. That's something that Leos truly understand. So, I would just keep your cool...remember that relationships do take work and nothing can happend overnight...give him some time (Leo's don't like to be pressured or rushed into anything)...and see what happens (my aries moon tells me!)

If things don't change in a considerable amount of time...do what's best for you (and that could mean going along with things not being perfect, or giving up).

Good Luck

Wow LS, the sex must have been really good for you to give him this many chances... 🙂

You said that he just broke up with a long-term live-in girlfriend, he's probably scared of getting sucked into another one right away. What he wants to hear is that you are willing to take things slow with no expectations. Since you are a bit older, he probably thinks that your clock is ticking and you will soon be looking for marriage or bust. I doubt if he wants to put himself in that position, especially when he hasn't healed completely from his last relationship fiasco.

Think about how you would want him to handle the situation if the tables were turned and act accordingly. You need to have a long talk about how many times a week you would like to see him, talk to him, molest him, etc. Just emphasize that you are willing to take it slow. No one, Leo or otherwise, wants to be scared into commitment. It's just not very romantic...

*** However, his actions will speak louder than his words.

Yes. He knew that I knew that he knew he was being an ass. If I didn't say anything, the elephant would have been knocking over the television. He was just testing his boundaries and seeing what he could get away with.

**** Leo's don't like to be pressured or rushed into anything

I understand this. No one wants to be pressured or rushed but at the same time ... if he is going to do an imitation of Near and Far from Sesame Street ... he can do it on someone else's time. I don't want to get ensnared in a man who is not taking me seriously.

*** Yes. The sex was unbelievable but that isn't my main motivator. If I want sex, I can just walk down the street. Male fans are not hard for me to come by. (Not conceit. Just plain old fact.)

*** he's probably scared of getting sucked into another one right away.

That is fair. I just want to get to know him. I don't even know if we are compatible.

*** You need to have a long talk about how many times a week you would like to see him, talk to him, molest him, etc

Pretty much. Expectations need to be on the table. We could even get past laying it all out if I could trust him to honour his commitments or at least apologize and make it up to me if he has to cancel.

Hold on ... I need to preach for a moment. lol!

The thing that Libra knows and teaches is that life is about choices. You cannot make this choice without giving that up.

if he wants to see me he has to be reliable, dependable, kind, and good. If he wants to run around waving his hands above his head .... he doesn't get to see me.

He can't do both at the same time. I understand and respect his need for freedom. I am very content to take things slow ... but he has to be reliable and dependable with regards to me or I will never trust him and we will never have a shot.

BTW, just because I am 31 doesn't mean I have a biological clock ticking. I am not even sure if I want children.

He does need to chill though. I know he is relishing his new freedom and I respect that. At the same time, he needs to respect me.

LS, speaking as someone who was in his exact same predicament (long-term live-in GF), I would have run for the nearest fire exit if someone would have put the same pressure on me. That's why I took a year off from dating and am just now getting back into the scene.

Libra may know that life is choices, but Libra doesn't know how to make a choice and stick with it until THEIR backs are against the wall. I'm sure that sex isn't your main motivator, any attractive woman can get it at any time. But it sounds like the timing for you two is off. Let him enjoy his freedom, if it was meant to be he'll be back...

Cookie

I understand what you are saying and I do respect his freedom. At the same time, I am trying to do what is right for me.

He has a choice to make. He either leaves me alone or he treats me with respect. It is really that simple. No hard feelings etc. I am not chasing him at all. HE is the one that pushed this and wanted it. I keep saying why don't we step back and do this later? HE doesn't want to. It is up to him and he keeps pushing forward. (Well, he pushes forward than runs away.)

I will not allow my emotions to be toyed with. If he is an honorable person, he will understand that.

What this is really about is respect. He is welcome to do whatever he likes ... but he has to respect me. I am either worth respecting (in his opinion) or I am not.

I have been nothing but kind and compassionate to him. I am not asking him to be my boyfriend, partner, get married ... I am asking for him to be my friend and respect me/my time or get lost. You cannot be a friend to someone when you do not respect them.

Trust me. I have cut him A LOT of slack but at some point ... it is fish or cut bait. And if he sees that as pressure he doesn't have to see me. It is his choice. But even in friendship there is standards of appropriate ways to treat people.

** Libra doesn't know how to make a choice and stick with it until THEIR backs are against the wall.

Completely untrue. I make decisions constantly and stick to them, but you are welcome to believe what you want.

I would have run for the nearest fire exit if someone would have put the same pressure on me.

BTW, he is more than welcome to do that. No guns pointed at his head.

Hey guys...the thing about most Leos is that we hate to loose in the game of love. We will do everything we can to make a situation work b/4 we give up (whether the relationship is worth the fight or not).

and what do we do when we eventually get him/her back? when we win the game? We loose interest? The fight and the victory was too easy... Time to move on and win the next one?

Perhaps you are right Capgirl.

We have decided not to see each other anymore. It was apparently "too complicated and stressful" for him to make plans with me and keep them.

I am a little disappointed but I know in thim it will turn to relief because he was just putting me through the wringer. I don't remember the last time I was so unsatisfied by a relationship. He wasn't really giving me anything to make me happy and kept assigning feelings to me which I didn't poscess. I am more upset that he is blaming me for all the complications .... what complications? you make plans with someone you don't make other plans with other people on that day. Not difficult.

I know he will regret this ... it is just a matter of when.

Onward. Upward. All that jazz.

............We have decided not to see each other anymore................


😢


Well, I hope this doesn't mean you will be leaving the Leo board little sparrow.

So far uneventful. Aside from the Big Displays fire works aren't allowed in my town. So we have to wait until about 10 pm to see them. My son and I will be hanging with family in awhile.

For now, we are just rrreaally bored lol


chocolate, do you have any kids?

No. I am not leaving you guys! Cookie would miss me. lmao!

I am very happy the little leo thing is over. I learned a lot from the experience but he was driving me crazy. He kept trying to flip logic on me and turn things around. The stupidity of it lost my respect.

I am sure he is a nice guy ... yadda, yadda ....

LS, you'll never leave...what else is there to do in Canada? 😉

I hope everyone had a safe and sane 4th, but also managed to make some fireworks of their own... 🙂

LS, you'll never leave...what else is there to do in Canada?

Shovel snow?