leo EGO v. scorp EGO

which one is the strongest? Everybody keeps saying how leos have such big egos and how they are full of themselves....but maybe scorps should take the prize for that...?!!!!
eventually i think the scorp ego bends the leo ego..maybe because scorps are more patient and can hold a grudge for longer or make a plan about how to treat a person and stick to it.... why can't a leo do that?

agree... scorpz take da trophy wen it cumz to holding a grudge... they can hold it for YEEEEEEEEArrrrzzzzzzzz... leoz are more quick to forgive then scorpz... thatz for sure...

leoz are more quick to forgive then scorpz

agree ..unless it sth very important..i mean i have alienated friends out of my life because they did sth bad to me....i do talk to them and i have forgiven them...but i never trust them ... they ve lost the place they had in my life... So leos forgive but they don't forget that easily.... once a cheater always a cheater...true?

'..So leos forgive but they don't forget that easily.... once a cheater always a cheater...true?..'

totally agree... but thats really a wise thing to do...coz ur cautious the next time and wont trust that person as much as you used to coz they betrayed ur trust 🙂

that is true! the only thing leos need to work on though and that is really important to me..is choosing more carefully the people we trust... I wish i could read people more easily from the beginning instead of rushing to live the moment and have fun!
so sad about that...i mean after the fun is gone...things can get pretty bad because of misjudgments and miscalculations

Yes I guess its true... Scorpios initially are nice people. When they mix with people, it seems to ignite a kind of insecurity in them eventually building a sort of grudge sometimes even towards a society. But many cases this grudge dies as and when they move forward in life. But those scorpios who gets stuck in life holds this grudge and have made many situations worse.

But when it comes to EGO, i havent faced issues from scorpio but always had issues with leo. Scorpio seems to be a bit stubborn but slowly will give it your way if they really feel that you are right. Leo will give it your way if they like you and have some trust in you.

Scorpio is a good listner and not oversensitive like Leo. So most cases I was sucessful in explaining things to a scorpio compared to a Leo. If Leo gets annoyed at the beginning of a conversation, he stays annoyed and have never bothered to rethink.

(These are my own observation from my own interactions with many Scorpios and Leos. Could be a connection troubles btween Libra I guess) 😉

Yeah this is a tough call and I think the individual situation will indicate which sign's ego will dominate. Scorpio will get tetchy for diverse reasons and be quietly cunning whereas a Leo will be more predictable in their prejudices, resenting anyone who doesn't give them due pomp, ceremony and respect.

A leo doesn't see it. They don't think of reasons why they should not be prideful...Attacking a leo, you are giving them a reason that they have not thought of...you are planting ideas into their mind...And the stronger you enforce it, the harder it hurts them...

never thought of it that way....DB you just did plant an idea into my mind....lol 😉

I don't think scorpios see themselves as great as leos naturally do.

don;t think that is true... leos have insecurities as well ... What is true about leos is that they have a basic self esteem in that they think they are ok ..will never think very low of themselves... after that it all depends.... most of my friends are leos and they are insecure about lots of stuff..i think it is mostly their appearance though... don;t know why... They seem more confident when it comes to other things like work and studying for example.... they are more insecure when it comes to their physical appearance and relationships... Strange! I just realised that it is so!

If Leo gets annoyed at the beginning of a conversation, he stays annoyed and have never bothered to rethink.

depends on the kind of the conversation... this may be true in cases where the conversation is about them directly... if it is a more general conversation i would say that most leos are prepared to listen... i think there is a confusion here... because what most leos do is ....they act like the devil's advocate in a conversation.... if the other person makes too strong of a point.. then so will the leo....even if they don't really believe that strongly what they say...

I don't associate Scorps with ego at all.

Scorps want power but that is different than ego.

Libra/Leo egos are more comparable I think.

so you guys think that leos need to feel accepted and admired otherwise they are depressed in a way? that is a pretty big weakness to me ..that means we can't rely on ourselves and cannot easily find inner strengt by ourselves... 😢

When you attack an ego of a scorpio, we tend to already have thought of all the reasons why we should not think highly of ourselves...you may only be reinforcing that thought.....

I do this and I am not a scorp lol. I think the ego is strong in both signs. This is really a difficult call. Because both signs hate to lose. I do however imagine the scorpio would keep pressing on even if it had already been determined that he has lost (say in a matter of competition) Someone who will succeed at all costs. If it were up to me, I would have to say Scorpio wins this one.

...I guess I'm saying scorpios do not have a naturally strong ego. They eventually show it more when they feel accomplished.....

It's that sense of "self" that I would imagine helps scorpio accomplish these things in the first place. The ego drives you, the pride comes with accomplishment.

yall are buggin I am a leo and my mom is a scorpio and we clash all the time.my mom is the one to give in first.I dont know where ya'll be gettin ya'll info from leo's are not forgiving are you crazy.!!!!!!

I understand that you are disputing sun signs. I didn't take it personally. In fact, aside from the first statement...."I do this and I am not a scorp lol."....I was also basing the rest on sun signs only. The first sentence is just relating. Sorry, I should have clarified that.

...Can you not agree with me the major differences in children, without too much 'nurture' influence...

Absolutley, basing this on sun signs alone. The scorpio child may not be the social butterfly, but I think the need to succeed and conquer are still strong. Losing would seem to affect the scorp child more. Which may add to the natural "low self esteem" but also fuels the desire to win at all costs. No matter what(power). My son has scorpio rising and I see this in him. It may not be shown outwardly but it is still there. Ego and passion is what makes the most successful scorps. The reasons a leo/scorp have a strong ego are very different from one another but still strong in both signs. I won't go into why a leo is egotistical because we all know LEOS ARE and the general reason for it lol.. Where leos fail is when they base everything on the reaction they will get from others and this boosts them up. Unfortunatley as soon as the attention is gone, the typical leo person will crash. I don't think a scorp gives a shit about reactions BECAUSE their sense of self is so strong. Not because there is no ego. Yes, ego is how you see yourself compared to other people. I see this as fueling the scorp more (competitive). It is just hidden.I have a hard time debating this with you though because you have like 5 million scorp placements and I only have 1 leo placement that I can't even relate to, and well, I am sure I know nothing lol

This is just what I see.

Nope, not trying to flatter. Just hoping you will take pity on an intimidated leo lol 🙂

I just stated the facts and if you found it flattering it isn't MY fault lol! Ok, maybe you don't have 5 million scorp placements. Yeah, that is a lie. I guess I'm going to hell 🙂

...sarcasm and jokes is a good indicator at times when we are hurt from an action...

My bf hides behind "humor" The funnier he tries to be is sometimes how I can tell how pissed he is. His jokes can be mean.

I have a question. How did you first become interested in astrology? Was it wanting to know more about your gf?

Do you think you would eventually want to learn more because of that? More than even the first five planets? If you look at the degrees of your air and water sign placements between you two, that always helps too. Within 8 degrees is an aspect.

I know you didn't ask me for that info lol It just seems like you would take it farther than most. To want to find out the real reason why if you base it on astrology.

You can still get a pretty good idea of the degrees of mercury on down. Just not the houses or moon degrees because it changes on the hour. The outter planets don't change by the day and the immediate ones (merc down) may only change by one or two degrees a day. Those aspects would be accurate. So that would help add more to what you want to know. It may not be everything but it's something.

*by the degrees of....*

I meant

.....Her chart says she gets married twice...and I would be the first marriage.....

Please tell me how you figured this one out?

I don't have your info on me, but I would like to look at it. If you'd like, I won't tell you what I think and will leave it to fate 🙂 Just want to see for my own obsessive reasons lol

k one sec.

you can tell about number of marriages?

please-

I would like to know how this works...

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Am hijacking this line and starting a new topic... sounds quite interesting...

this *************** was "hi" in brain waves btw

How did you first become interested in astrology?

am goin to hijack this question for a new topic

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you are going to get married twice!

to the same girl you love

the firts marriage will be here in the states

the second one will be for your 20 yr anniversary, a celebration of your years of love - only in Rome of Florence 😉

no- not a DIFFERENT person...she marries YOU -_- TWICE

silly

Thank you DB. Very interesting. Should I leave it to fate?

Hi Libran and Schoene 🙂

She marries once, then marries a second person....

WHO told you this??

There are sooo many air aspects between you two it's not even funny. lol but yet it is 🙂 Very nice. It's nothing in depth, but enough to show you that you aren't crazy. I sent it. It's up to you if you want to post it.

BOO!

okay...I was waiting for you to explain what makes you think you are mrs.love's first marriage- of two

lol schoene. Me too.

of course you can feel it in your elbow...I saw that in your chart- a MILE AWAY!

DB, there is no way you can ever tell how many marriages someone will have by looking at their chart. You can only see how someone would handle being married maybe. If anything, it seems like marriage would work for you two.

let me ask you this -_-

do you believe it?

if you don't- does it mean that you have to forsake everything else that you have read that SEEMS to be true?

-_-

chart

now

...marriage is a hard thing...and only time will tell...people change...love changes...and who's to say I am the best for her...her needs may change...mine as well...

And that is the business of being married. If you can understand this, that's a start. Nothing is ever happily ever after. You have to be willing to go through all of this.

okay...I see now that I was right about the hurting in the elbow thing when I scared you...

wait a sec...

I used astrodienst- very good

Very likely you will choose a partner who takes life less seriously than you do, someone who will provide daily happiness and let you handle the larger problems.

-_- what do you think about this...

Mars in the Eleventh House

You expend extra energy in any close personal relationship even if it is not sexual, for you place a high value on loyalty and friendship, both in yourself and in others.

For this reason you prefer a long-lasting affair that has time to develop, rather than newer and less firm attachments.

I see this ^ as true of you- I don't know anything of her chart though

Well schoene...fate works whether you believe in it or not....

you could argue, that beliving in fate can make you play in the hands of it...

^^^ why yes...yes I could- but I won't...

marriage is a hard thing...and only time will tell...people change...love changes...and who's to say I am the best for her...her needs may change...mine as well...I don't try to argue these things, just understand them...

this ^ is why I like talking to you so much- you are very open minded and it reminds me of how I want to be...this attitude that you present- and that I admire, sometimes escapes me...too often lately...

Usually this is a good indication of long life ended by natural causes. The position, however, may bring difficulties in connection with marriage or with finances derived from partnerships. A great part of your life may be geared to the acquisition of some complicated inheritance. Regarding esoteric matters, the position indicates a profound interest in occult subjects.

^ I bet you can tell what this is based on...

however, I don't see anything that has to do with money getting in the way of your love life- at all- not even the littlest bit-

okay-

have a great time out in the sun -_- ...just look for the cooler with the coca colas in it 😉

sweatyslanty ;(-_-)';

purrr

you there??

Yeah. I am. What's up

hey- what sign are you with? are you married? I forget-