How long do Leos stay mad?

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New here - hope everyone's having a great 2014!

I'm in a FWB-type sitch with a Leo. FWB-type b/c he doesn't want to be a bf, but he's extremely possessive and has told me he doesn't find me trustworthy. Okay for him to talk about other girls. Not okay for me to talk about other guys. That's another thread tho -

We both like music and intelligent conversation, but when we have a disagreement or 1 of us hits the other's hot button topic (this mostly happens when we talk about racism; I'm white and he's hispanic), it turns into an explosive argument and we get really mean with each other.

He's a big fan of using the words "b**ch" and "c**t", when he gets angry. My insults are of a psycho-analytical nature. Like, he told me he f-ing hated me and if I died right then he would think it was funny. I responded that perhaps I'd better not drive very carefully b/c it sounded like he could use a laugh and told him I'd text him later if I was still alive.

I'm an Aries so when this happens I tend to get really heated in the moment and retaliate, but then after I think about things, I usually back down and do my best to bring us back to a civil place and make up. This usually happens through a lot of complimenting, light-hearted rhetoric, and reminding him that we like each other.

But man! This last 1 was a doozie. He keeps saying I brought a monster out of him and to leave him alone; I'm trying something new by respecting his wishes. Normally I would just keep on him and let him direct all his anger towards me until he's over it.

But really irks me that he can't let go of things. Like, I don't know if it's healthy to hold onto your anger like that. Anyway - I'm wondering how long he's going to let this simmer until he decides he's over it? Is this a common thing for Leos?
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Maybe I should mention here that he has bipolar disorder, goes on and off his meds and drinks copious amounts of alcohol.

I think a big part of not wanting to burn that bridge with him is about my stubbornness. He doesn't have very many people in his life and it doesn't take very much for him to put people down (not insulting, like in a cutting them off kind of way).
So there's a bit of me feeling this challenge to make this otherwise socially inept guy accept that I am there for him and we are friends.

I feel like I can't take him to hang with my other friends b/c he's quiet and brooding, while I'm high energy and very social, but he's new to my city, not good at meeting people and I think he's a good person, but just has a lot of darkness. He told me that the people here are "aggressively friendly". (??)

RE: the untrustworthiness - This is his demeanor in general, this not trusting people thing. When he 1st moved here he was in culture shock. Couldn't understand why people were so friendly and that there was not as great a need to defend himself or his property or to be suspicious of everyone he comes across. He's weirded out by my saying hello to my neighbors if we're passing in the hall. (??)

He gets really ugly sometimes with his words, but it doesn't even phase me b/c I know he's just lashing out - shit! I think I feel sorry for him.
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Posted by ami
Maybe I should mention here that he has bipolar disorder, goes on and off his meds and drinks copious amounts of alcohol.





Quite the opposite. You probably shouldn't have mentioned that.

He calls you names. Horrible ones.
Said he hopes you die and is going to laugh when you do.
Has a mental disorder
Does not take his meds
Drinks like a fish

Get the heck away from him. He sounds like a nightmare.

Calling Tiki !
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Posted by ami
Maybe I should mention here that he has bipolar disorder, goes on and off his meds and drinks copious amounts of alcohol.





Quite the opposite. You probably shouldn't have mentioned that.

He calls you names. Horrible ones.
Said he hopes you die and is going to laugh when you do.
Has a mental disorder
Does not take his meds
Drinks like a fish

Get the heck away from him. He sounds like a nightmare.

Calling Tiki !
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I mention it because while it doesn't excuse his behavior, it fuels his extreme highs and lows; maybe I let it be an excuse for his behavior. All that crazy shit he says just rolls right off me. Like, I don't even hear it because I feel bad for him that he's so unhealthy.

I guess I see him as a cross to bear because I figure the rest of my amicable and normal relationships balance everything out. That I somehow need to help him, be there for him, because I'm one of the only people he knows here and the only normal, stable person he knows. Blech! It's a tough job tho - he is a nightmare sometimes. His eyes turn black when he gets angry.....

Okay, point taken - maybe I'll get lucky and he's really done.



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Posted by tiziani
Leos stay mad for life. No second chances. It's a fixed sign thing. The best thing to do is leave the topic alone and focus on something good you have going for you both. But since your situation sounds like a "good friends, better enemies" type deal it doesn't sound like that was ever even possible. I guess as an Aries you're missing the sex.



Haha! Yes, the sex is good. Really good. But he's very selfish. And doesn't understand the importance of reciprocation.
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I am not even going to comment on the question. This is not a subject matter that pertains to your situation.

What is real?? You are in an verbally/mentally/controlling abusive relationship period no matter if it is a BF or FWB situation. Get out NOW. Not sure but you have option, check your locality and see if there is an Domestic Violence Orgainization that can offer you support or call the national DV hotline. This IS a dangerous relationship and has NOTHING to do with him being a Leo. I worked for a domestic violence Orgainization for six years and was in verbally/mental/controlling relationship for a 1.5 yrs when I was 18.
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Right... You can't help everyone. I'll just have to choose not to feel sorry for him anymore and forget about his existence. Me and my "never give up" mentality. He's obvi a lost cause. Meh - oh well. Thanks iOS 7 for the blocking feature!

And thank you, Forum for the resounding consensus that I need to just get away from him. I was so busy trying to be accepting and helpful, I ignored those initial WTF reactions. Ew-

On to the next!






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Leos stay mad for life. No second chances. It's a fixed sign thing. The best thing to do is leave the topic alone and focus on something good you have going for you both. But since your situation sounds like a "good friends, better enemies" type deal it doesn't sound like that was ever even possible. I guess as an Aries you're missing the sex.



Haha! Yes, the sex is good. Really good. But he's very selfish. And doesn't understand the importance of reciprocation.



Well you say that but you're also saying you're the one that's trying to make him accept you. Quid pro quo.
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She is not seeing this as a highly unbalanced unhealthy relationship. She is in rescue mode and trying to fix someone who is unfixable unless *HE* chooses to do it himself. She will find herself sucked in deeper and lose of herself even further as she continues. She makes excuses for him. Classic abusive relationship.
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Posted by ami
Right... You can't help everyone. I'll just have to choose not to feel sorry for him anymore and forget about his existence. Me and my "never give up" mentality. He's obvi a lost cause. Meh - oh well. Thanks iOS 7 for the blocking feature!

And thank you, Forum for the resounding consensus that I need to just get away from him. I was so busy trying to be accepting and helpful, I ignored those initial WTF reactions. Ew-

On to the next!





It is not giving up. (Aries moon here and highly fixed fire placements so I am stubborn as they come) what you have to realize: YOU have no control over someone else behavior. Only they are responsible for that. You can't change someone, you can offer guidance but they choose to take it. And never put yourself into a position where you compromise yourself for someone else: boundaries. Listen to those Initial WTF reactions, those are called red flags and is yourself saying this isn't right or healthy.
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Leos stay mad for life. No second chances. It's a fixed sign thing. The best thing to do is leave the topic alone and focus on something good you have going for you both. But since your situation sounds like a "good friends, better enemies" type deal it doesn't sound like that was ever even possible. I guess as an Aries you're missing the sex.



Haha! Yes, the sex is good. Really good. But he's very selfish. And doesn't understand the importance of reciprocation.



Well you say that but you're also saying you're the one that's trying to make him accept you. Quid pro quo.


She is not seeing this as a highly unbalanced unhealthy relationship. She is in rescue mode and trying to fix someone who is unfixable unless *HE* chooses to do it himself. She will find herself sucked in deeper and lose of herself even further as she continues. She makes excuses for him. Classic abusive relationship.



I'm just saying both sides have their responsibility in the matter. I see a lot of euphemisms like "fix" "accepting" etc. that are really a substitute for controlling behaviour on both sides. You can't force someone to feel how you want them to feel.

Hopefully they both make the decision to leave well enough alone.
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It wasn't quite directed towards you Tizini. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Ummm first let me ask...if you know that he thinks you're untrustworthy, basically controlling (wanting his cake and eating it too), anger issues, really sick sense of humor (-_- like really, if you died it would make him laugh?) sounds like you 2 argue a lot, etc. why even put up with it? You're making yourself sound like a helpless person and letting this person run all over you...a guy who only wants to be FWB means he just wants to fuck and that's



Exactly!
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ami I know you want to change him but people (especially a fixed sign) will not change. Also, I'm sorry, but I feel men like that IF they do change will change because they have a life changing experience not some woman being sappy and understanding. Especially a woman that would let him walk all over her. You know that. I had a Leo ex that was an asshole, never treated me badly but we always fought. Towards the end since the fighting wasn't working I tried being understanding he got more controlling and only became more of an asshole. I left him and I'm pretty sure he's still the same person to this day, a selfish asshole that's not going to change. Your encouraging and understanding will only enable his behavior. You just got to cut him loose and know when you have a lost cause. I know we Aries are the champions of the underdogs but we also know when to let things go when they are completely out of our control. You can not change him, so let it burn baby burn. Unless you are into the whole being walked all over for the sake of sex. Honey you can get great sex anywhere. Hello, Cancers OMG are they amazing bed.
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I would NEVER EVER in my life allow a man to treat me this way. That's really sad. He is definitely an immature, disgusting, piece of shit human being and he deserves to be punched right in his face (sorry but this really made me mad). I really hope that you realize that you deserve better and drop this clown ASAP! He's an immature Leo. Run while you can. Things will only get worse!