Pisces girl looking for insight on about a Leo guy

Hello, Leo board. I know, I know, another Pisces girl/Leo guy thread, but please bear with me.

I think his chart should be: Sun Leo, Moon Leo, Venus Leo, Mars Leo (I am not sure if any other are that important?).

I am: Sun Pisces, Moon Gemini, Venus Aquarius, Mars Libra, Ascendant Sagittarius (not so sure about this last one).

He's five years younger than me. We're acquaintances and were messaging each other, really often in the beginning of all this. He was honest saying he's not looking for anything serious and even if he was I wouldn't be the one he would think of dating. I told him I am not sure I could ever do fwb thing with him. (I'm pretty sure as a Pisces I'd find a way to get myself tangled up emotionally one way or another.) After that he stopped messaging me for two weeks, after saying we can continue messaging as friends. I went through feelings of disappointment, depression and a bit of anger because why wasn't I good enough for this guy to date.

Then we saw each other again, I ignored him apart from saying hi. He started trying to message me again, I was annoyed and short in my answers. We attended the same wedding party, I did try to ignore him, but warmed up to him again by the end of the evening. We made out. I didn't really find the kissing per se to be all that great, but I enjoyed the way he was pawing at me and seemed to be into me (or should I maybe say into it).

So the messaging started again, although not as frequently as before. But I don't think anything has really changed. The problem is I really enjoy his company. I still don't think sleeping with him would be such a great idea for my sanity. Even if I do wonder if sex with a Leo is all everybody keeps saying it is. So I can't shake the idea of it completely. Then again I feel like I'm being enough of a basket case over this as it is. I'm afraid I'd probably get hurt really badly if I give this guy what he wants. Everything I read around seems to speak about Pisces getting really hurt when dealing with Leos. And with this guy's chart, it seems to be even scarier.

But I'm not really an expert here so any insight on this situation and this guy's placements would be much appreciated.

that is ALOT of leo placements, fish twin waterbearer scales,

do you know where all his leo placements sit in the house?? It'd be best for you if it were in a water or earth house. And your air/fire placements in a more public/open house like air/fire houses.

but it doesn't mean it's the end all....

Sorry, I'm still new at charts so I don't really understand how houses exactly work. I'd have to have his time of birth to find those out, right? So yeah, I don't have that info.

I forgot to mention he's a Leo/Virgo cusp!

Omg girl. Where should I begin. DON'T DO IT! Speaking from experience honey, you are gonna get severely hurt. It's not worth all the bitterness, heart ache and pain that you're gonna feel towards him after wards. He already made it clear that he does not want a romantic relationship with you. CUT HIM OFF NOW or things will only get worse. He will only continue to use the shit out of you and play games with you. You are strictly being used to feed his ego. That's why he's keeping you around even though he doesn't see you romantically? That's some BS! I've been hurt by two Leo men back to back. The first one lied to me about having a girlfriend and my heart was crushed, and still is. Then I met the second one and he was effing amazing. We talked on the phone non stop. We shared our secrets with each other and I could talk to him about anything. But about 8 months later we fought like crazy because we were just too different. He was full of excuses and I got tired of that shit. So I had to let him go. It hurt like hell but it just wasn't meant to be. We were not on the same page AT ALL. As a Pisces woman, I've made the very wise decision to stay far away from Leo men. They're just not for me. He will crush your heart and NEVER apologize. But they will try to come back around months later like nothing happened. I would definitely walk away from this guy. Know your worth. There is some guy out there that is waiting to love you and appreciate you. Let go of this egotistical loser and let this other guy find you! Good luck my fellow Pisces sister! 🙂

Also, I know how you feel about not feeling good enough. That's exactly how the 2nd Leo guy made me feel and it hurt me so bad. He has had other girls hurt him and disrespect him to the core and I've been nothing but good to him. I never disrespected him and treated him with respect but he still put those girls before me and I got so tired of tryna prove myself. It was exhausting. It's really heartbreaking that we couldn't understand each other. Because im a Pisces, all he did was doubt me and wouldn't even give me a chance to prove that we can be good friends regardless of our zodiac signs. And of course he didn't care or even apologize for anything. And now my heart is filled with bitterness and regret. I've learned a huge lesson from this. I really hope you don't end up hurt like me.

Posted by geminicandIe
After you told him you don't want fwb, he told you that you guys can still be friends but then he ignored you for two weeks. A true friend doesn't do that!

Then what does he do? Does he try to get to know you and treat you nicely and takes you out, at least? Nope. He tries to get in your pants in typical sleazy Leo fashion.
Because that's what they do. They'll do anyone when horny!

Anyways, leo with virgo influence is the worst kind so be extra careful. Don't fall to be his next prey!!

Well, when you put it that way I wonder why do I still talk to him too, ha ha. I don't know. I think it's probably about perspective.

Your reply really puts things into perspective while I am obviously too close to this to be able to see things clearly. Like, I think, I said I enjoy his company. I enjoy talking to him and even flirting with him despite knowing it is not leading anywhere. He seems to be more open minded about some things in general. He's familiar enough with some things that interest me so when I talk to him I know he'll know what I'm talking about without me having to explain it like I usually have to do with other people. But thinking about it now I probably oversold myself on those things as his good points.

I am not really looking to be another notch on his belt, but then I wonder would that be so bad in the end? Well, apart from me being hurt in the process most probably. It's probably my Pisces masochistic side showing.

The fact that he's been honest with me from the start is really what's making me think well, he can't be such a bad guy! I can't really blame a dude for just being horny and trying to sleep with me. Even if he doesn't offer to take me out first. (Such a shitty thing, I know.) Casual thing obviously works some people. Or it seems to be? If he wasn't honest as he seems to be and was just playing me for his ego, like one Gemini guy did before, it would be so much easier to just cut him off completely. Then again maybe the honest thing is just another version of a guy playing me and I'm too blind to realize it.

I really hoped that Virgo might be a good influence on the Leo, because I had a good experience with a Virgo before and I think Virgos might be my thing.

geminicandle, I definitely like you 🙂 It seems I'm partial to Gemini no matter how you turn it. I might be sworn off Gemini guys, but I keep finding myself really enjoying the company of Gemini girls.

Maybe I'll look into reading Monica Levinsky's book. I had zero to none experience with Leos before this, they used to fly under my radar until now. Now I look around and see I actually know quite a few of them, they just never did anything for me before. Aqua man are a mystery and I'm good with it staying that way. Scorpio men are supposed be good for Pisces but I never found myself attracted to one if I remember correctly. Maybe having a Scorpio father and a Scorpio brother fills the Scorpio quota in my life so I don't have to go out and look for another one to get myself romantically involved with. I love them dearly, but they're such genuinely such assholes 🙂 Sometimes I wonder how can their women stand them.

Posted by Livingfortoday
I know this is hard from experience....but sometimes listening to your gut is best. Think about how you felt when he stopped messaging you, and apply that to how you're going to feel when you sleep with him and he either 1) does the 1 or 2 time sex and then out thing, or 2) keeps you around for just the sex while he dates someone that is "suitable" for him. When a leo is really into you (romantically and not just physically), you'll never have to question how he feels or his intentions. Just out of curiosity though, did he tell you why you weren't good enough to date?

Yeah, thinking how I'm probably going to feel after he "hits it and quits it" was one of the reasons I said no in the first place even if I'm wavering about it now. I realize he's not into me romantically. He said that when he meets a girl he just 100% knows she's the one. He felt like that once and he dated the girl but it didn't work out. His other relationship he didn't feel like that but he allowed himself to be pressured into dating anyway. It sounded like a love at first sight thing and I can't really say I understand it. What I did understand was that I'll never be the one and that I shouldn't even try deluding myself how some day he might change his opinion about me.

Posted by missnia08
Omg girl. Where should I begin. DON'T DO IT! Speaking from experience honey, you are gonna get severely hurt. It's not worth all the bitterness, heart ache and pain that you're gonna feel towards him after wards. He already made it clear that he does not want a romantic relationship with you. CUT HIM OFF NOW or things will only get worse. He will only continue to use the shit out of you and play games with you. You are strictly being used to feed his ego. That's why he's keeping you around even though he doesn't see you romantically? That's some BS! I've been hurt by two Leo men back to back. The first one lied to me about having a girlfriend and my heart was crushed, and still is. Then I met the second one and he was effing amazing. We talked on the phone non stop. We shared our secrets with each other and I could talk to him about anything. But about 8 months later we fought like crazy because we were just too different. He was full of excuses and I got tired of that shit. So I had to let him go. It hurt like hell but it just wasn't meant to be. We were not on the same page AT ALL. As a Pisces woman, I've made the very wise decision to stay far away from Leo men. They're just not for me. He will crush your heart and NEVER apologize. But they will try to come back around months later like nothing happened. I would definitely walk away from this guy. Know your worth. There is some guy out there that is waiting to love you and appreciate you. Let go of this egotistical loser and let this other guy find you! Good luck my fellow Pisces sister! 🙂

Hi, missnia. I've definitely seen you around this board, fellow Pisces 🙂

I really appreciate your comments and insight in the mind of Leo men. I mentioned this in another reply, but until now I had no experience with Leo men. I have never been attracted to one and only looking around now I realized that I actually know quite a few of them. They just never did anything for me before. I really don't know why is this one so different.

To be honest sometimes I see him and I wonder if I'm even really attracted to him. He's really not that special. Sure he's cute and I like the sound of his voice (since it's Leo we're talking about he probably does as well) and I enjoy his company. I think probably everybody enjoys his company because he seems so good talking to people. But that's about it. I didn't thin

Yes girl. I completely understand how you feel. Your situation is kind of similar to mine with the 2nd Leo. I can already see that you two are heading down the wrong path. It's gonna turn into pain. Yes it's good that he was honest with you and all but I still think he's keeping you around to feed his ego. And trust me hun, you're not the only girl he talks to. And only god knows what he's telling her. Leo guys always do stuff like this. Especially the young ones. I agree with @geminicandle though. Not all Leo men are bad people. It's just their manipulative ways and the fact that they are too proud to apologize when they're wrong just doesn't fly with me. That alone makes them a coward. Girl PLEASE be careful. I honestly don't think making out with him and continuing contact with him is such a great idea. Only because you have feelings for him. You're just digging yourself deeper in a hole. And since he knows that you have feelings for him, HUGE EGO BOOST! He's gonna play with you even more. It's gonna be nothing but drama. And intense pain. Leo men will hurt Pisces too much and in the end, it's not worth it.