All about emotions...

Wysdum:
"Emotions do cloud judgement and reason, and cause people to behave irrationally, but they also fuel creativity, art, and survival i.e., reproduction. They're an extension of our innate instincts. So, where would the line have to be drawn in order to control the emotions that are beneficial to us and those which are not?

I can understand that libras may feel more comfortable relating to people in an intellectual and detached manner, but by the same token this is a very partner- oriented/intimate relationship sign, which doesn't neccessarily have the same luxury to be detached from others let's say the way an aquarius can be since they preside over friendships, which tend to have less emotional depth than romantic partnerships. Libra by nature is a sign which forms attachments. You're the "charmers" of the zodiac, which appeals to the emotions of others, and your intuition and ability to see so deeply into your partners and provide for them must have an emotional component otherwise this couldn't be a relationship sign. However, the way your reasoning comes across it seems that you would prefer if you had non-attachment.

It would be difficult finding someone who truly wouldn't be emotionally attached when involved romantically w/ someone else regardless of sign. Women by nature tend to be more emotional then men and more expressive w/their emotions as well. Men by nature tend to be more aggressive then women, and more expressive w/their aggression as well. Now it's the combination of emotions and aggression which can cause big trouble. Though, it's definitely conceivable that any woman can cause a man to react over-aggressively and that any man can cause a woman to react over-emotionally."

We have many primitive human features. Emotions is one of them. I agree. Now how much emotions does a man need from a relationship to keep him there? And on what basis can we figure out how much works fine for each man?

Though some members may argue against it, I cant help saying that its almost the same for members of each zodiac group and each zodiac group require a particular amount of emotions. Bcoz of the way our society have been molded in the past, most of us are brought up with the idea that emotions are essential and the more you get emotional means you are in love and thats the best person to spend your life with. But by simply looking at the society, any 3 year old kid can say its pretty fckd up. Relationships are a mess, society is altogether screwed up and we are in a way behaving worse than the other members of animal kingdom. I dont really expect many people to agree with me in this point anyway. We humans constantly keep trying to make it better and better by creating things around us which we think might help solve the problem but unfortunately its all backfiring.

So suppose if a human being is faced with excess production and consumption of these emotions, what do you think can happen? Will things be normal with them? or can it go wrong at certain point of time? The hindu families in India are a fine example of such a system. The indian astrology matches two emotionally attachable members of zodiac which supports male domination as a perfect match over an intellectual match. As a result there are stable families but every damn thing out there is based on emotional factors. Movies, music, lyrics, dramas, everything is overly emotional. Commonsense is like one major factor missing from the local society. Nobody understand logic anymore. If you want something to be done, you have to act in a dramatic way and make the listener emotional. Then only things work out. Couples are fighting all the time and most couples have abs no understanding btween each other. But since its a male dominated society, women cannot escape out of a marriage even if they want to. So it keeps things moving.

It will go wrong if a person is fed with more or less amount of emotions than he actually needs. But its addictive to become emotional. We tend to enjoy the extra blood flow through our veins and somehow most humans prefer that stage though the same feeling is going to screw up their life in the coming years.

So it could be easier if we learn to understand our actual emotional requirement and which zodiac groups can provide it than going for the ones who makes us emotional attached. Some zodiac groups do find themselves stable when they are emotionally attached. And some zodiac groups have a capability to be excessively emotional - pisces and libra.

Since libras tend to be detached and cold on the outside but we know we are emotional beings, we easily get carried away when we land in an emotional relationship. We tend to think along with the social idea that love = emotions thereby fooling ourselves. We ignore our actual requirements and tend to go with what carries us away. Actually do we need all those emotions to present to keep us in a relationship? We do need emotions. But do we need what scorpio or pisces or cancer offers at the cost of intellectual freedom? Isnt it that we are influenced to think that we do need that amount of emotions whereas reality is that we will soon find ourselves suffocating with those emotional attachment and begin our mind games to continue the sex part and still keep our options open? Why cant we learn to enjoy the limited emotional attachment we experience with gemini, aqua, libra, aries and saggi/leo? Why do we tend to look around for someone who makes us more and more emotional?

Isnt that something we ought to learn to control within ourselves? But then society is still ignorant about all these aspects. How can we be sure when everyone around us look for that so called "feelings"?

i think everything thrives off of emotions (for example some people are passionate about their jobs, charities, etc..)it just depends on how you let the emotions consume you. i am aquarius and am very emotional about a lot of things. i don't reveal my feelings to others that often (that's probably why i seem dettached)and that is to protect myself from any type of heartache or disappointment. in my opinion its hard to tell how much emotion a guy needs to stay in a relationship because too much might = smotering and not enough could = neglect and cause him to look elsewhere. not everyone expresses feelings in the same way. is "the feeling" what society has defined it as or is it what the particular individual is looking for?

"feeling" for an individual is normally a confused stage between what society has defined through various forms of media vs his actual feelings. Its never allowed to remain as his actual feelings bcoz of this skewed version from society.

People are passionate on a stand alone basis. But certain astrological combination of relationship builds a lot of excessive emotional energy and less of logic and sensibility. And this combo tends to attract each other more often. This is what I consider as dangerous for the peaceful existence of human species.

(it's all on an individual choice by choice basis)

It could never be a possible choice for common man unless this very information is studied and cross examined and becomes common knowledge. Humans hesitate to experiment with their own life and somehow prefer to go with the easy methods even if its not healthy.

Emotionally driven water sign will sure try to bring logic into her life by chasing an air sign. But does she need logic to make her life comfortable? Or does she need more emotions and less logic? Can we really be happy by chasing what we think we want? or is it easier to go with what we actually need to attain a certain level of happiness than chasing those excitements in a subconscious manner?

Do we really need to identify the component called "feelings" within us to realize its possible to lead a peaceful and comfortable life with someone? Or can we apply simple logic and trial and error method to determine which works better for us? Why is that an air sign who generally depends a lot on logic tend to look for feelings and emotions when it comes to a partner? Can it be considered as our weakness though it looks like a primitive human instincts when we compare it to water or earth born people?

hmmmm... I dont think logic is unable to describe what anyone is searching for. Logic can describe it but in most cases we dont want to know. Most times when people try to analyze, they end up facing the bitter truth and they stop thinking logically thereafter. They prefer to think "ignorance is bliss" and end up living a useless life like every one around them. Then to comprehend all the confusions and irrationality which they encounter, they try to ask and answer various stupid questions like "purpose of life" "meaning of life" using words like destiny, fate and so so. So its like we prefer to make mistakes and then justify it than constantly trying to avoid making mistakes. Bcoz thats easier.

Then for air and fire signs in particular, they have this additional trouble of facing the criticisms from water and earth signs over their thoughts and actions. When you have a group of people continuously judgmental in their approach and you have no idea that they are water and earth born(no idea abt astrology), you seems to have random people from your circle adding pressure on you to behave and think in a specific manner they think is good for you. And Air and fire can change. So they choose to change their original thoughts and ideas about themselves and move towards conformity. Than taking a firm stand and oppose water and earth. even if we try to oppose water and earth, then water and earth would never understand the reasons behind our behavior. So they will try to shoot us down or control us by using fear and if we still oppose, they label that person as dangerous to society or whatever they can come up with to match the situation.

So its a question of how well we can educate the water and earth born people that air and fire dont think the way water and earth thinks and they have to be left alone. Also how well can we educate the air and fire people to stand their ground and remain true to their original thoughts and thinking mechanisms than adapting onto other strategies bcoz of the pressure part.

((otherwise there would be a pretty uniform/cooperative society. Heaven?))
Exactly. We try to 'fit in' through a series of wrong mechanisms. mainly social inventions than following the paths set by nature. And obvious humans are not yet smart enough to gain the best out of natures ways of doing things. A path set by the designer is the best path and no one can ever make an alternate path to reach the same goal.


((When you mention "oppose" are you talking open conflict, i.e.,, war?))

Its mainly in the form of psychological pressures. War always originates from fear. Fear of loosing what they consider important. And its mainly the method of earth signs to protect their materialistic life. They simply cannot imagine living without all those luxury. So they think of fighting people off. Water cannot think of living without having their loved ones. Thats when they think of defending their territory.

((then that is a mistaken analysis though I am pretty sure you'd be able to find people in all elements who believe they're superior and able to dominate over others.))

There are people from other signs. But the big picture says its more bcoz of earth and water. Aries is often considered as a dictator but the reality is that Aries only sounds like a dictator. They plan and do things mainly to benefit others. But bcoz an Aries sounds like a dictator, most earth and water signs will start making noise and try to add pressure on the Aries which questions their innocent motives and even go the extend of proving to the majority that they are too dominating. And Aries will give up eventually. Real dictator is Taurus who is brutal and only care about himself. But they are so successful enough to convince the majority that they are doing things for others when they are not.

((It would be beneficial if more people were aware that there are differences in thinking patterns between these elemental groups))

It would be definitely the major breakthrough towards attaining universal peace. It would take another few generations before everyone buy that fact. But its hard to say if our species would last to witness it.

I dont carry a conviction that elements have to be separated. It would be a blunder. Its meant to be integrated but its important that everyone carries more accurate informations. Right now we are too stupid and ignorant to see the complex structure in which we are involved. That have to be changed by educating people.

The major reason for all the conflicts arises from how we relate to each other. Thats where a difference have to be made in order to reduce the insecurity factors. Once we feel secure about ourselves and then secure about the relationships we are in, we would begin to live peacefully with only the basic worries about food and shelter.