Cancer Falling for Libra.....And PISSED About It!

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So here's the deal.
I met a Libra guy over Facebook (-____-, I know...I know...) about 4 months ago. He is amazingly beautiful on the outside and was attracted to me, as well, which got us talking. Come to find out, he is quite the intellectual and an avid writer. He just didn't know what to make of me (used to it) but it intrigued him, so we exchanged numbers. Talking was extremely comfortable and we felt like we knew each other already. We could relate on so many levels, but alas, we soon found out our differences are just as vast as our similarities, which excited me! We're both used to getting what we want, when we want it, so the fact that he was a challenge WORTH taking up made me want him even more.

You see, I sorta have a complex. Clearly, I'm gay. I was raised in a house with my mother, grandmother, auntie AND great grandmother til the age of 9. No male interaction whatsoever beyond the confines of my mother's ever-changing boyfriends (she used to be a professional fashion model). Needless to say, growing up hearing all these single, bitter, women talk about how love is a luxury and unnecessary, and men are all dogs and blah,blah,blah it didn't shape my view towards love too favorably.On top of that, the only other two gay men in my family BOTH died of AIDS the SAME year when I was 9, and I told myself I would NEVER EVER EVER end up like that. They were extremely promiscuous and I associate promiscuity with low self-worth and death, quite frankly. Also, at 19 I lived on my own in a prostitute-filled neighborhood in Houston, TX and a drug dealer on my block broke in and raped me. I wouldn't so much as give him the time of day when he tried to holla, so he just came and took it. Needless to say, I am HIGHLY guarded with walls upon walls upon walls, lash out at men at the drop of a hat with ANY type of advance (and I get ALOT on a daily basis). I feel I HAVE to protect myself, but as I mature I come to the realization that I'm really tired of being single, admitted to myself that I don't think love is a lie, and actually do want to share a life with someone. HOWEVER, I have very high standards, know exactly what I want and refuse to settle or even try anything less. I'm almost 23 and have never been in any type of relationship because I never let myself be vulnerable enough. I have a serious problem with vulnerability because I demand respect, and it's a thin line to tread in order to maintain both.
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Okay, so now that you have a pretty basic understanding of my point of view, this Libra is the FIRST man EVER that I feel is worth my time and effort. As far as the big picture goes, he is the embodiment of most of the qualities I desire and rarely find, and I refuse to let him go, for if I do, how long until I find someone else I will let down my guard for? At first, his conversations with me consisted of a little sex talk every now and then, and I would entertain it, but would always make sure he understood that we're not fucking for quite some time. I want to, of course, but I also understand very well that if you give it up too soon, you are immediately written off as a "booty call" and all respect is lost for you. Not only that, but a man of ANY sign must be kept on his toes just a bit, and will look at you more as a long-term companion if you force him to get to know you inside and out before any sexually intimate activity takes place. I associate sex with emotions, and if I give it up, I know I'll have eyes for nobody else and will be the most vulnerable I've ever been. Can't afford to risk such great hurt until I feel he is trustworthy, we are secure in mutual feelings and worth the risk. I lied to him, told him he is, obviously, very physically attractive but I don't take Facebook men too seriously until we meet face to face and I know if you are who you say you are. I have a very strong intuition, and if I can be in your presence for even a minute I will understand you ten million times better. Plus, I didn't want him to try and impress me because that means he would leave important things out, and I need to know damn near EVERYTHING, so if we talked as friends, he would be completely honest with me, and boy was he!

Bottom line, over the phone there were absolutely problems except for the fact that everytime we talked he would tell me bout this guy, that guy, this guy over here, the guy around the corner and all these dates and sexual experiences he had with them. I suspected he was a whore, but he surprised even me with the sheer volume of experiences. It immediately put a bad taste in my mouth BUT since we weren't together and hadn't even met and were just "friends" (hehe) I didn't have a right to be jealous. He was in a 3 year relationship with a Pisces that, in a nutshell, was lust-driven, toxic and self-destructive. That man is his biggest regret, but he learned alot about himself and it forced him to mature.
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Problem is, he is still in that process BUT since I am attracted to people who need me and KNOW there is so much he is capable of, it makes me want to be with him to help him blossom into who I, without a shadow of a doubt, know he can be. Sometimes, I feel I am more in love with his potential. Anyway, I caught myself catching feelings for him, thinking about him at night and all that bullshit, and we hadn't even met. Just talked for about a month, by now. I HATED IT! I felt like I was desperate, needy and of course, vulnerable. Clearly, he can never be aware of this so it was never communicated. Instead, I wanted to open up to him in person so it felt more genuine. I started trying to setup meeting dates and he ALWAYS had some excuse why this weekend, next weekend, weekend after that and blahblahblah weren't good for him. I tried to work with him for a bit, but eventually HAD to tell him I don't wanna be just friends and NEED to meet him. He said he was very interested romantically in me, as well, but when the phonecall was over, I couldn't help but feel that I was getting caugh up in the moment, and realized he probably says that to everybody. I just cut him off altogether without any warning because I couldn't handle how strongly my feelings were getting and he STILL seemed so indifferent to meeting me. It was too much. I figured if he wanted me, he would come around, and he did.

He lives only an hour away!

Anyway, two weekends ago, after a month of no contact with him and JUST starting to forget about him, he calls me out the blue and says he's in-town and wants to see me. I play it cool as usual, like "it's about time", but when I hung up was soooo giddy and immediately got to work in the bathroom making myself look irresistible but threw on some sweatpants and a tank top so as to make it look effortless 🙂 We met at the movies (his choice, I hate movie dates). When we first saw each other it was CRAZY! He was exactly what I envisioned him to be! After movie we went to a bar then a club and talked, kissed, and cuddled in the corner a bit. Plenty of men were hitting on me, and I made sure he noticed that as they did I immediately ignored them or gave them the eye roll and kept it moving. He needed to understand that I don't go on dates with hardly anyone, and I was indirectly letting him that he was special to me. Likewise, many men were hitting on him, as well, and best believe I watched his reation, body language and words like a HAWK!
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He was genuinely not interested in anybody but me, so I felt more at ease. Additionally, when people asked if we were together, I told them we were just friends whereas when he was asked, he would grab me and say we were a couple. Was I flattered, though? Not just yet. Apart of me felt he just liked to be seen with me because of all the attention I got (happens quite often). Plus it was a club, people are there to have fun and be seen. This is not a place to express love and have it taken seriously. When we were walking out the club, some guy was hittin on me HARD and he immediately grabbed me and tried to stick his tongue down my throat. I pushed him away with no hesitation. I would've loved to makeout with him, but not because he felt like he wanted to show this old, horny fag that we were together and throw in his face that he couldn't have me. The guy eventually stopped hittin on me and said that Libra was "In Love" with me, and I need to pay more attention and stop being such a bitch or I'll end up alone forever LMAO!!!.....hmmm.......

Anyway

He left that night around 3am and I went back to my friends house and completely GUSHED over him!!! I never felt so beautiful nor more confident, in myself, as I did that night. I couldn't wait to see him again, and immediately got myself to planning. I called him the next day and he was ecstatic to hear from me, and since I felt safer with him, I let him know how happy I was, as well. We didn't talk too long, but we both made it clear that we wanted to see each other again the next weekend...and here's where it starts aaaallll over again.

I tried to call him to make plans but he wouldn't pick up his phone, and I don't call anymore than twice a day. If he wants to talk to me, he will call me back. I don't give a fuck how busy you think you are. On top of that, he's not that busy. he works a full-time job but gets off at 3:30pm and is not in school. The rest of his day is spent doing whatever he feels like. He is very athletic and gets restless easily and is always around a new group of "friends" or with his family. The family thing, I understand, but I don't understand how he can never stick to plans with me but can hang out with some silly fags that just called him an hour ago. PISSED! And that's exactly what happened all over again
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That entire week was so depressing for me. I could NOT get him out of my mind, and LITERALLY every conversation I had with ANYONE I turned into one about him...I'm never "that" person, but I had to let out my frustrations because I couldn't with him. He wasn't giving me any definite answer as to whether we were "on" for that weekend or not and after that initial phonecall I didn't speak to the REST OF THE WEEK. Only text messages. I entertained his philosophical conversations but I wanted to say SOOO much about US but was terrified of coming off too harsh, too strong and scaring him away. So, as typical in the Cancer fashion, I kept silent until I just could take no more. Every day he was "hangin out" wit some boy named Alex. I knew they were dating, but he didn't let me know. I didn't bring it up to him, because even though I was jealous, I genuinely was not worried, because I knew he was nowhere near my level. He ended up not hanging out with me when I told him FRIDAY that he needs to let me know what's going on immediately or I'm making other plans. He texts back, "no, not this weekend"....that's it. No excuse, no nothing.

I was THROUGH! I went to the bar with some female friends and talked him up the WHOLE night, taking any advice I could get. I don't like what he's doing to me, and if this is "love", it sucks. By monday night (this monday) I couldn't hold it in any longer. I called him, and he ANSWERS! I don't go off on him, I just try to understand his point of view so I put ALL my feelings out on the table for the first time since we been talking. I didn't care anymore. I told him when we kissed I felt a spark and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up, he says he felt the same. I told him I care about him tremendously and need to be in his presence and keep the momentum going, he said he felt the same, and blahblahblah. We were on the phone for 3 hours and we were both in a state of euphoria once everything was all out in the open. He told me the truth about Alex, but made it clear that (as I already knew) he was nothing compared to me, he was just available and local and apparently Libras need constant reassurance of their attractiveness, which is why he must date every fuckin half-good looking young man he meets.
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I asked him straight-up why does he time for everyone else except for me, and he tells me that he is slightly intimidated by me and terrified to catch feelings too strongly because we don't live in the same city....please. You're an hour away and maybe we could live together one day if you would keep the fuckin momentum going and spend time with me so we can develop stronger feelings and...you know....just DATE...like forreal -___- If I mean so much to you, and I'm so special and sexy and the connection is CRAZY, why must I feel like I'm pushing you to be with me?

Bottom line, his excuse for not seeing me and always changing his mind on whether he "can" see me or not is that we're "long distance". I listened to everything he said, and he seemed like he was listening to everything I was saying, as well. When it comes to this, we think on two different wavelengths, and I really wanted to understand him, and I was grasping bits and pieces, but altogether at the end of the converation, I felt we had gotten somehwhere 😄...WRONG!!! The NEXT day he doesn't pick up his phone again and is being slow to respond to the one or two texts I sent him. I decided not to say anything to him and will wait for him to initiate with me. Two days have passed and nothing. If he doesn't say anything to me by friday I'm likely to just go the full monty, curse him the fuck out, tear him down from the inside out and be done with it, because when I get to the point where I don't give a fuck, it is exactly that.

But the other side of me doesn't want to retaliate because I feel maybe we just don't understand each other. He seems so genuine and kind-hearted, but just....confused and romantically immature. Can I really hate him for that? Should I give him another chance? I wouldn't even know where to go from there!

So...that's where it's at. I'm waiting for his actions to match up with his words...those oh, so beautiful words. Granted, I did confuse him alot when we met because I was a bit cold at times and maybe played it tooo cool, and we discussed that. But that's no excuse and he knows it. I told him monday before we hung up that I'm not worried about Alex nor whoever else he has blowin up his phone because he knows, and I know he won't find ANYBODY like me. He agreed, boosted my ego for a bit, and I ended it with "when you're done playing around, you let me know. Maybe I'll be available."
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It felt badass to say it, but I know most likely, if he calls me up and says he's in-town again I'll drop everything to see him again 😢

Am I desperate? Am I in "love"? I don't know, but I HAVE to figure him out!! What the fuck is up with him? I'm trying not to get angry because I don't wanna come off as clingy and make his think he has to talk to me every day or I start his doubt whether he's genuine or not, but honestly, since we don't much of a REAL basis, that's exactly the case. I need to see him in order for anything to continue further, and I'm trying to be patient, but I can't shake the feeling that it's in vain. I know what he's thinking and how he feels even though he's not around and it does piss me off that he can't do the same. He's very sensitive to my needs but i have to verbally tell him what they are. Even then, they obviously don't seem to stick his brain too long.

HELP ME LIBRAS!

Be brutally honest, if needbe. I can take it....been writing for an hour to strangers on the interwebz.....yes....I'd say I'm desperate for answers.

~Confused, Pissed, Bitter, Lovelorn Crab~
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Posted by LibraLuv
Hmmm. This is the only response I have to give...

You asked if you are desperate? Possibly, only you can answer that question yourself after you've taken a step back and looked in the mirror to determine that.

Are you "in love"? I highly doubt that. It's only been 4 months. Actually 3 months since he had NO contact with you for an entire month, with no real reason as to why.

Bottom line, and here's where I also think you answered your own question...You said, "I suspected he was a whore..."
I think that about sums it up. Judging from the things you've said he's told you and his actions of not really trying to make dates with you speaks volumes.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't waste my time if I were you, but to each their own.

Well, there's my two cents and maybe someone else will chime in and add their opinion.



I feel you. And I gather that I'm not in love, but I second-guess myself, sometimes, cause all my little twenty-something friends keep telling me I am...but I'm gonna go with my gut feeling. I will admit, that I am in love with his POTENTIAL mos def, but I am not tryin be in one of those situations where I'm so desperately trying to change a man and only end up changin my damn self. I'm not stupid, and not naive in any sense of the word, but I am extremely nurturing and considerate, and have to watch it doesn't get the best of me.

And, yes, I did know he was a whore from the get-go, but when he was talkin about his relationship with Pisces he said he never cheated on anybody ever. Says that when he is with somebody, he doesn't even want anybody else. Sounds like bullshit, I know, but I believe him because he has never lied to me about anything else, and my intuition picked up that he was being genuine. He's a ho when single, so I figured I could deal with it for a little bit until he came to his senses...but he's not giving us that chance. Too caught up in his own head. Like...WAKE UP!! Reality here! Talkin all this shit out the side of his mouth and doin another. Worst part, I honestly believe he believes his own bullshit. He gets caught up in the moment waaaay too much. So immature....tbh I've pretty made up my mind that I'm cuttin him off, for good, and tellin him exactly why. Will I curse him out, no, but will I be harsh? Of course.

He needs to understand that he just can't go around leading people on the way he does, and
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I am definitely going to get inside his head since he's so "mental" and "intellectual" and tear all that shit down.

Please.

He will get the point and REMEMBER it for a looong time to come by the time I'm done.

You a grown-ass man, you are held accountable for your actions, and you fucked up on the wrong person. Time to pay the consequences. How's that for diplomacy? Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law, nor in the eyes of my heart.

So yeah...mind is made up. That was quick, huh? lol
Think I just needed to vent in a way I never did before, and when I read back my own words, I sorta saw myself from an objective point of view and started to laugh. Can't believe I'm actin like this over this immature little boy. He has to go. He just came along at the right time and knew all the right things to say.

Quick resolution, huh?
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his actions of not really trying to make dates with you speaks volumes.

...

Well, there's my two cents and maybe someone else will chime in and add their opinion.




😢 yeah... I don't think the thing about the dates is good at all.. from what I've seen if a Libra guy or girl wants to chill with you, they will hound you. My girlfriend is a Libra and she will do that, she will call me, text and facebook me all in the same window of time and quite shamelessly (me on the other hand, I'll send one little message to initiate but if they don't respond I take it as a sign, I won't keep going after them). Also my baby's a Libra and he is pretty straight with wanting to see me, put a ring on it you know what I'm saying? Maybe not in the literal sense, but you probably get what I mean.

I always say this, if a man doesn't see your worth then it's his loss. You shouldn't have to try hard to get him to notice you or stick around.. that's the mans job to do for you. And I kinda gather this is a man man relationship, with your role as being femme. I could be wrong though.. and I don't know all that much about the dynamics relationships like that so... you can throw this out if you'd like.
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I completely and totally agree.
But sometimes you can want something so bad...and you see something soo close!! Like a perfect imitation Louis Vuitton bag. Seems to be what you want, but you know it has no value and will not last. I got too caught up in my emotions.

And yes, alot of gay men try and equate their relationships to heterosexual ones. Truth be told, I'm mentally TOO much like a woman for them to respect me as a man (part of the reason I'm so aggressive, to counteract that and my appearance). So, yes, all the shit yall go through from men, they throw my way, as well.
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Posted by LibraLuv
Cut off... All I said was, I'm sorry that you had to go through that experience but, there are brighter days up ahead. 🙂



I'm aware

I'm over him already, but to hurt him will be the icing on the cake and possibly the kick in ass his lazy, manipulative, selfish self needs to grow up.
People are not toys. He will get this through his head.

PS Of course he doesn't answer his phone. Prolonging the inevitable won't make it go away....he'll learn this too
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Posted by LibraLuv
An eye for an eye?



That pretty much sums up my mentality when it comes to matters of the heart.
If you don't want me, or are sooo scared/intimidated by me, by all means, let me know. You have no obligation to me, as I don't to you. Thus is life. Not everybody is meant to be together, so what?

BUT

DO NOT bullshit me, have me catchin feelings, allow them to grow and ACT like the same is happening to you when you feel like it, pour out all my emotions and sit there on the other end of the phone like we've had some monumental breakthrough, then literally the next day go back to the same shit. I cannot stand insincerity, and I know Libras don't like confrontation, but if he keeps actin like this, he better get used to it. Pretty sure I won't be the last.
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his actions of not really trying to make dates with you speaks volumes.

...

Well, there's my two cents and maybe someone else will chime in and add their opinion.




😢 yeah... I don't think the thing about the dates is good at all.. from what I've seen if a Libra guy or girl wants to chill with you, they will hound you. My girlfriend is a Libra and she will do that, she will call me, text and facebook me all in the same window of time and quite shamelessly (me on the other hand, I'll send one little message to initiate but if they don't respond I take it as a sign, I won't keep going after them). Also my baby's a Libra and he is pretty straight with wanting to see me, put a ring on it you know what I'm saying? Maybe not in the literal sense, but you probably get what I mean.

I always say this, if a man doesn't see your worth then it's his loss. You shouldn't have to try hard to get him to notice you or stick around.. that's the mans job to do for you. And I kinda gather this is a man man relationship, with your role as being femme. I could be wrong though.. and I don't know all that much about the dynamics relationships like that so... you can throw this out if you'd like.



I completely and totally agree.
But sometimes you can want something so bad...and you see something soo close!! Like a perfect imitation Louis Vuitton bag. Seems to be what you want, but you know it has no value and will not last. I got too caught up in my emotions.

And yes, alot of gay men try and equate their relationships to heterosexual ones. Truth be told, I'm mentally TOO much like a woman for them to respect me as a man (part of the reason I'm so aggressive, to counteract that and my appearance). So, yes, all the shit yall go through from men, they throw my way, as well.
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Awh yeah the to quote you on the Louis bag.. yeah that hits home. I get what you're saying..

I mean.. if I can't tell what a person is like from the get go, then only time can tell you know? Maybe there's hope. I just think it may be too soon to put all eggs in one basket because you don'
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Awh yeah the to quote you on the Louis bag.. yeah that hits home. I get what you're saying..

I mean.. if I can't tell what a person is like from the get go, then only time can tell you know? Maybe there's hope. I just think it may be too soon to put all eggs in one basket because you don't know yet whether this guy is a wolf.


Definitely.
And he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, for sure, but he's worn it for so long that he has has fooled himself into believing he is actually a sheep. Nothing worse than someone who lies to themselves so much that they start to believe their own bullshit and can no longer differentiate black from white.

And there MAY be hope. Maybe he'll hit me up a few years from now and will finally realize what he missed (cuz once all is said and done, he will surely understand what he's lost). If I see a BIG change, I'm all for forgiveness. Nobody's perfect, but to grow content with your erroneous ways and ignore the consequences of your actions is a real sin. I believe wholeheartedly in striving for perfection (Virgo moon hehe). It's obvious, no one will attain it, and that's the beauty of it. You never stop growing or learning.

He's very into psychology and genuinely is somewhat of a genius. He is beyond compare in his talent for writing, rhetoric and has a true passion for learning...but only what he wants. Completely self-centered and literally lives inside his own head. Doesn't even realize what he does to people.

PS Still trying to understand this quote thing 😆
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Gay or not, you need to get over yourself big time and start doing all the leg work for a change.
Your avatar looks like a lion, therefore you think you're a lion.
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It takes two to tango, dear. Impossible to do "All the legwork" when you're referring to building something with two people. Either you both make moves or not much is gonna happen.
And about the lion thing...LOL...cute.

P.S. Ascending, Saturn and Uranus are in Sagittarius and Mars is in Aries. I may not have any direct Leo influences, but I certainly possess plenty of fire inside me 🙂
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UPDATE:

After all my venom was spewed.....things are getting better!! 🙂 My first instinct was right. It basically was coming down to us lacking understanding of each other. I am Cancer Sun (over-emotional/defensive) and Virgo Moon (particular/critical), he is a Libra Sun (indecisive/flighty) and Aquarius Moon (self-absorbed/unemotional)....I think that sums up alot right there 😛

Without going into detail, things have and continue to change for the better. We both want this and are making conscious efforts to make "us" work, but we're doing it with great patience and a great deal of communication. Our bond becomes more and more spiritual, and I am calming down alot on the authoritative end of things LOL. We view our differences as strengths and are both willing to compromise a little bit to make room for a different point of view. Yin and Yang, Sun and Moon, Night and Day are all essential forces, but work in very different ways. When they come together, though, they're a force to be reckoned with. We understand and feel this and (more-so under his guidance) are letting things flow.

Case closed 🙂
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Purely going off what was posted here, it's not a belief it's a response to the data presented.

It takes two to tango, dear. Impossible to do "All the legwork" when you're referring to building something with two people. Either you both make moves or not much is gonna happen.


I agree with you on this one completely.
And about the lion thing...LOL...cute.


Always happy to help.🙂


P.S. Ascending, Saturn and Uranus are in Sagittarius and Mars is in Aries. I may not have any direct Leo influences, but I certainly possess plenty of fire inside me


My elements are perfectly balanced except water is down by 1.

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See? Typical water signs would have turned all these points you made into arguments as they would have taken them as personal attacks.
All in all, Proof that my understanding of Air-sign people grows every day 🙂
3 cheers for harmony.
*Hip-Hip, HOORAY✨
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Purely going off what was posted here, it's not a belief it's a response to the data presented.

It takes two to tango, dear. Impossible to do "All the legwork" when you're referring to building something with two people. Either you both make moves or not much is gonna happen.


I agree with you on this one completely.
And about the lion thing...LOL...cute.


Always happy to help.🙂


P.S. Ascending, Saturn and Uranus are in Sagittarius and Mars is in Aries. I may not have any direct Leo influences, but I certainly possess plenty of fire inside me


My elements are perfectly balanced except water is down by 1.



See? Typical water signs would have turned all these points you made into arguments as they would have taken them as personal attacks.
All in all, Proof that my understanding of Air-sign people grows every day 🙂
3 cheers for harmony.
*Hip-Hip, HOORAY✨
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.....umm....I was in a good mood when I wrote this post. :/
I cut things off with Libra a few days after I wrote this. I was forcing myself to "think positive" but it wasn't grounded in reality. LOL. Can only fool myself for so long (which isn't that long). Infamous Cancer moods are my downfall every time! Anyway, I met a Leo (with a Libra moon, 😆) in August and we made things official. If interested, I'm posting my concerns and questions in the Leo forum 🙂 You have my permission to pry under my shell. Just resist the temptation to nibble a piece of the crabmeat...I know it's cooked to perfection and all but....no.

YAY! MORE DRAMA!