update on my situation... for good.

I have stepped back from my situation, done a little "soul searching" and reflecting and I am so done with that libra guy.
I don't know but I believe that if a guy really likes someone he wouldn't ignore her, or blow her off, never answer her calls, and give bs excuses for everything etc.

He was only bringing me down emotionally & I clung to him for some stupid reason. He made me weak. and he knew it. and he definitely used that to his advantage

I talked to a family member of his today about him... and he is sick of his shit too. So the way hes been acting hasn't just been in my head... He was beginning to make me feel like I was going crazy. Like his actions and how he treated me were justified. But it wasn't just me.

I'm going to start over new and go back to being MYSELF. Not that crippled manipulated weak version that I was.
I feel like he broke me. But I'm getting back up, trust me.

I am just not looking forward to going back to work with him in August. Thats going to be awkward.


I know not all you libras out there are like this. I just happened to find a very immature libra.
But thank you all you kind libras (and everyone else) for your help 🙂

Who knows what sign this next guy will be 😛 but whatever it is it doesn't matter just as long as he treats me with more respect than this one did.
For now, I will enjoy living the single life once again!

Posted by Days22
I think some Libras use the whole balance shtick as an excuse to be assjackets.

I agree... I could understand someone needing some space if they have a lot on their plate or are dealing with a lot of things at the moment but with this guys case, he had all this free time, no stress, but he chose to do other things with his time not involving me, so I see I'm the last priority on his list so I'm not going to stand for that anymore!

Good on you girlfriend,you will get back your strength. Sometimes we focus on one thing that much it cripples our growth.
Some libra men have a way of convincing you they have done no wrong and that you are going crazy.
I remember mr libra once blanked me and when i confronted him he denied it.....when it was obvious to everyone..i could not believe my ears...he said "i said hello to you" BULLS
One of my guy mate summed up mr libra for me he said "he loves the adoration,attention,flirting,having the girl around when he needs her,everyone knowing that the beautiful girl his under his spell" BUT when she falls in love with him he doesnt know what to do with her. Thats when he start distancing himself,if you are a water sign,it hurts more and you cling more.
Libra men tend to hate that-it shows them your weak-and i dont think they see weakness as a good quality.
So they begin to avoid calls,not respond to text and go as far as avoiding you. And if you confront them their favourite line is "am busy".Please!!
Hun your doing well by realising whats happened your halfway to recovery. Just dont make him smile or sweet talk you.
Thats if you really are through with him.
Goodluck🙂

yeah i was very passive, easy going and understanding at first with him... when he'd do his disappearing act. But i'm not having that anymore.
Unfortunately it took me a long time to realize how he is...
But I don't think i'm going to be letting him get close to me again anytime soon.
I'm one of those people that trusts people very easily. Until they start giving me reasons not to trust them. Then its VERY hard to get my trust back when you've wronged me. EXTREMELY hard. So whenever someone has my trust they better treasure it 😛

Its funny though, how hes coming at me now that I'M deciding to move on...
Not buying into it. At All.
But unfortunately I work with this guy so its going to be difficult to ignore him forever *sigh* I am defninitely learning from this mistake.

If this is what you want , i'm happy for you 😄

All i can say is that libra's once we're make up our mind we will do it , other than that if we can't we jus leave it to the side and wry about other things more important which this libra seem like he don't care if he want to be with you or not.. best leave him to the side.

Posted by Diddylibra
All i can say is that libra's once we're make up our mind we will do it , other than that if we can't we jus leave it to the side and wry about other things more important which this libra seem like he don't care if he want to be with you or not.. best leave him to the side.

yeah thats definitely what I'm going to do.... I'm not going to chase him and waste my energies for his attention anymore. I figure if he really cares he would have treated me differently

Posted by PandorasBox
I think he's comin @ you now cus he misses the attention..

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ohh he does... hes been texting me & called me last night.
I haven't ignored him though because we will have to continue working with each other & I don't want our personal drama at work or any tension
I've just been keeping things as casual as can be and not showing any emotion what so ever.

Honestly i do hope he step up to the plate and embrace you , you sound like a caring person and libra's needed that.

Posted by Diddylibra
Honestly i do hope he step up to the plate and embrace you , you sound like a caring person and libra's needed that.

in a way I hope that he does too.. i know that libras can be indecisive and all that... but if he were to want to be with me like he did in the beginning and actually worked with me to make this work we could be happy.
but as for right now though? I'm still just too hurt by him to care as much as I did.
I do still care, don't get me wrong but I just have my walls up and my heart guarded at this point.

I don't really know whats going to happen.

Always keep your guard up till he prove to you that he is ready , my best friend a pisces so i kinda know a lil about pisces girls , no other signs make a better friend than you guys lol.

Posted by Diddylibra
Always keep your guard up till he prove to you that he is ready , my best friend a pisces so i kinda know a lil about pisces girls , no other signs make a better friend than you guys lol.

yep I am defninitely keeping my walls up with him... I sometimes just miss being friends with him. because that was way easier than this. maybe I messed up our friendship by turning it into a relationship with him but I don't know, right now things are just weird.



and here is an update for those who may be interested...
so lately he has been trying to see me, asking me to see a movie w/him, to go eat w/him, to get some drinks, or to hang with him and his friends... all those times I have been busy and couldn't, so it seems as if I was blowing him off but I really wasn't. I haven't been available at those times. Well even though I am still hurt I feel bad about him trying to see me and then me not being able to do anything. But today we actually got to see each other, we went to the movies w/a mutual friend and then to go eat afterwards but I felt like he didn't even want me there. I felt ignored... things were just weird. So I don't get why he would go through the trouble to try and see me if I was just going to get treated like that.

perhaps it is still his libra indecisiveness.
or perhaps he really is messing with my head/heart and totally enjoying it.

I do not know.

need less to say my heart is still on lockdown.

For now my focus will be on other things.

Your experiencing the hard part about Libra/Water relationships.

What was he supposed to do? Cuddle you during the movie? Randomly come up behind you and embrace you tightly while whispering affections and sentiments in your ear?

You broke up with him. You have expectations and he doesn't know what to expect. Things may have been different if there wasn't a third wheel involved. He probably wasn't going to be attentive to you in a way he felt could make the other person uncomfortable.

Unless he was being a sarcastic asshole and actually saying mean things to you....I think you are being to intense/serious about a casual outing with a friend (him, your not together anymore).

If you want to go out in a more intimate setting go out for drinks with just him.

Posted by dreamingpisces

I don't know but I believe that if a guy really likes someone he wouldn't ignore her, or blow her off, never answer her calls, and give bs excuses for everything etc.

I don't know your whole story. But Amen to that 🙂

GL

Posted by nicodemus
Your experiencing the hard part about Libra/Water relationships.

What was he supposed to do? Cuddle you during the movie? Randomly come up behind you and embrace you tightly while whispering affections and sentiments in your ear?

You broke up with him. You have expectations and he doesn't know what to expect. Things may have been different if there wasn't a third wheel involved. He probably wasn't going to be attentive to you in a way he felt could make the other person uncomfortable.

Unless he was being a sarcastic asshole and actually saying mean things to you....I think you are being to intense/serious about a casual outing with a friend (him, your not together anymore).

If you want to go out in a more intimate setting go out for drinks with just him.

I wasn't expecting him to cuddle me in the movie or anything, hell, he never even did any of that when we were together...
but you're right, he wasn't actually saying mean things to me so it could have been worse.
but he did ignore me the whole time we went out to eat, I felt left out of the conversation, he would look at our friend when she was talking, add into what she was saying and then when I'd join in he wouldn't even aknowledge that I said anything/would look at me then look away like nothing... he was just flat out cold the whole time. Not even how a friend would act. or I'd ask him something trying to get a conversation from him and he'd just give short answers, its like he didn't even want to talk to me.... so i'm just confused as to why he even BOTHERED with asking me on that outing if thats how he was going to be.

perhaps he is hurt still by something I'm not aware of and doesn't know how to react towards me.
but I just don't know what else to do, all I know is that his cousin said he still liked me but that I'm too "emotional" for him. and even when I don't go all "emotional" on him its like he gets butthurt from that too. I just don't know how he is expecting me to act either.

our balance is completely off. we're never on the same page. we both probably don't even know what pages we're on...

it sucks that I still care....

Posted by Days22
I think a libra-pisces pairing just never works.But then again Nefer proves that wrong. Its hard the two to reallyever grasp each other.

yes, its quite difficult to grasp him/understand him at times... now more than ever before.



lucky Nefer 😛

After reading ur story from the beginning, I knew I had to make an account and talk to u. I am in a similar situation as u, it's kinda eerie lol I'm a 21 yr old Pisces girl who fell for a Libra guy who I happened to work with for 2 1/2 years. It's a very very complicated story but I'll only mention tid bits of it lol so I should have figured that it was doomed from the start. But being myself I hoped it would work out and unfortunately the higher my hopes and expectations were, the harder I fell.

Well fast forward to now, he and I are not talking and it's been a week and it hurts. I can completely understand when u say that u guys were never on the same page and u wonder well what the hell are we doing? Where is this going? It's quite frustrating and when he and I had THE talk, I told him this and he said he did want a relationship at one time but he was confused and he isn't ready for anything right now. Well..that hurt. They can be so hot and so cold, then they ignore you which doesn't help at all. But he said it was because we worked together etc. etc. and all I heard were excuses. Of course you'll still care because it's our nature. We care for others even though they have hurt us. After everything, I hope he figures out his life and finds happiness, even though I may or may not be a part it in the end. But he isn't my priority anymore. I felt like I was only an option for him. Girls n guys, who want a happy and long-lasting relationship, should NEVER feel like that.

He wanted to continue being friends and I told him that wouldn't be a good idea. I mean after that did I expect him to try to change my mind or at least call/text me to ask for another chance? Sadly, yes. I haven't tried to contact him and I've been trying to keep myself busy. And it bothers me when I think that maybe I was too emotional or too confrontational...but I was so sick of feeling I was being lead on or second best..but he had his flaws too! Once u make a decision, stick to it. I was in an unhealthy situation so I decided to quit my job. He was part of the reason but also because i hated it there lol but anyways we didn't say goodbye so the door hasn't totally closed yet.
But u know it's easier said than done :\ It's not easy dealing with change and I'm not saying quit ur job either lol but let out a good cry, hang out with your girlfriends, go shopping...don't let him stop u from being happy or from connecting with another guy you may meet later. Good luck n keep us upda

My two previous attempts at dating Libras failed dismally.. nice guys, great qualities, I'm 'accepting' of Libran 'flaws'... but totally incompatible in the end. I have my own theories about WHY it works so well with my particular Libra.

I have 4 Pisces placements in main/key planets and found NO other Water, even in my extended chart. I have 4 LIBRA placements as well as two more Air. Even 4 Aries, and two more Fire. I'm not QUITE as emotional as a "typical" Water sign, and I'm not prone to insecurity or jealousy (Libras are social & flirts!) I VERY rarely have overemotional or oversensitive displays (PMS can be a bitch, though! lol), though I do cry easily when very hurt or very happy. I was born the 1st day of Pisces, seem quite Aqua at times, but my Pisces Mercury/Rising make me very Pisces! I have heavy Taurus influence in my main planets (Moon/Mars, etc) which keep me grounded and balanced.. very attractive to a Libra man with a Virgo Moon and Cap Rising. Our Venus are Aries/Leo. We're older, more mature than we were in our 20's, very different people now. I've found several citations from Astrologists that say while Pisces-Libra is not a traditionally ideal match, it seems to work out better after they're both over 30 years old, when both our "restless & idealistic" natures settle down a bit. We want a lot of the same things, value a lot of the same things. Not perfect, but quite wonderful.

Communication IS the biggest issue for Pisces-Libra, the hardest aspect of our relationship. He's Libra Mercury, I'm Pisces Mercury - we couldn't even get a break and have trine Mercuries! LOL But we keep at the communication.. retreat and rephrase as necessary, both try to not get TOO upset before the other has a chance to clarify that thing they just said that pissed us off, and always keep in mind that neither of us would intentionally hurt or belittle the other. So if you FEEL hurt or belittled or insulted, chances are you took something wrong, ask for clarification. Neither of us likes dramatastic angry displays, screaming, name-calling, cheap-shots... we DISCUSS things calmly and rationally and reach a compromise we can live with. Compromise is easy for Pisces or Libra!

We've had our problems, was a time when our relationship was stalled, disconnected. We broke up for a few weeks, even tried dating others, but came back with a renewed sense of determination to work our issues out, because we really do love, respect, and admire each other!

Plus, I have a secret weapon in my Toolbox. I already told you about it, Pisces girl.. and I'll tell Lavender there if she wants 😉

But not you, Days. No way. Girl stuff 😉

Also, Days.. I just thought of something.. I have NEVER heard of a successful Pisces MALE and Libra FEMALE pairing. Might be some out there, but I've never known one. My theory? A Pisces Man would probably seem too emotional and sensitive to an airy, logical, almost-disconnected Libra. A Libra Woman would probably seem too flippant and flirty and scattered to a Pisces man who needs reassurance to be SECURE in his love before he opens up. Pisces live through their emotions, Libras live in spite of their emotions. Pisces need security, Libra need reassurance. So with Libra-Pisces.. the "feminine" one needs to be the Pisces, and a Libra woman would rarely see a Pisces man as masculine enough for her. Sad, I think.. a nice, sensitive man in touch with his emotions would be most lovely! And Pisces men are NOT whiny cry-babies, though that seems to be a common misconception.

LovelyInLavender: wow... it IS incredibly eerie how simillar our stories are! So you totally have been here before and know what it is like. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you and your libra. I can't tell the future, so I don't know for sure but if things go as they are going now I think the same thing is going to happen for myself. and yes, they are defnintely hot and cold. Its so confusing! I think one minute things are going GREAT then everything changes and I don't even know why! But it is a really unhealthy situation. I love my job far too much to give it up, so I'm not going to quit. and I know its going to be hard going into work and seeing him everyday and feeling these feelings when he gives nothing back. Its going to be hell but I am not going to give up one of the only things in my life thats making me happy right now and that is my job. I just hope I can tough it out and be strong. I am not going to let him get in the way of my happiness. I am not going to make him my priority if I'm just going to be sitting there on the bottom of his list. I will give the love I have to offer to someone that isn't going to take me for granted. 🙂

Days: I am thinking you are right... right now he really doesn't know what it is he wants and I think that if we were both older things could be ok, but we're not so thats that.. it sucks. we are both very young and inexperienced at relationships :/

Nefer: lol, yeah pisces/libra communication is very difficult! I feel absolutely CRAZY sometimes trying to get him to understand me. But I agree with what you said, neither of us like drama, namecalling, or overreactions... I like to try and talk a misunderstanding out calmly, where as he completely shuts down. Incredibly frustrating. So I leave it alone. But I know I can't keep doing that all the time..
haha, & yes, your secret weapon, thank you for that 🙂 has been very insightful and helpful!

@Nefer: Ohhhh what is this secret weapon? lol Aw you are one of the lucky ones! Before I found this forum, I had been looking at other websites about compatibility between Pisces/Libra and I wish I had known about all this before. Communication was a major problem but there was other stuff to deal with because we weren't allowed to be friends at work and we kept it a secret. Eh..as I write this I feel pretty embarrassed and stupid because this was probably just a way for him to have some fun and he bolted when I was having none of that. I never resorted to yelling or tried to embarrass him. I'd be the one sitting down calmly trying to talk things out, while he was up pacing back n forth all confused. I'd be there for him but I thought it be better if I gave him space. We're both 21 and there's so much I want to accomplish and he seems stuck where he is. Oh btw, how did you find those placements that you mentioned and that it's on your chart? I've been trying to figure out mine or how to get it lol

@dreamingpisces: I'm sorry I didn't mean to butt in my story because this is your thread but finding this forum was something I didn't know I had been looking for and it was hard to find someone I could relate to. I know you'll be okay 🙂 and if things are meant to be..it'll work out. You'll get through it, be strong and just be polite and professional. He'll probably flirt when he can and be careful of that. I've been in that situation more than I should have lol I've tried avoiding him before but eh that made him come around more and that didn't help. You love your job and this will help u from letting him affect your happiness there. I think the hardest thing was when he began a relationship with my friend/coworker last year. I was heartbroken but I got over it after a while and a few months after they broke up..I was happy and doing my own thing, then he finally noticed me. And it was history from there, now I'm back at square 1. The ironic thing is that by getting involved with him finally pushed me to quit that godawful place and leave the soap opera I walked into five days a week. We'll find someone who appreciates us and all our quirks and won't even hesitate for a second if they want to be with us or not hehe (I think now I'm talking about boys in general because not all Libras are like the ones we know lol)

Lavender, I'll mail it to you too.

As for the whole "secret" aspect of your relationship.. it MAY have been one of the more attractive aspects to the Libra, but NOT just go he could "run game" and "get some" or something. I've noticed a strange phenomena in at least the three Libras I've dated.. they are or were attracted to the types of relationship that not only make them "work" for it.. but there's this little "thrill" if it has to be secret, or is especially challenging for some reason. I'll give examples.

1st Libra.. High School.. his parents were Jehovah's Witness, and he was forbidden to date girls. I had to be kept secret from his parents (though we went to diff schools anyway and communicated mostly through letters and such!) so it satisfied his need for the "taboo" for the "challenge"... but like most HS relationships, and most young Libra-Pisces pairings, we broke up. We tried dating for a short time a few years later, right after my Cap husband divorced me, but we really were not very compatible.

2nd Libra.. He was 28, I was 35 and recently out of a really bad 5 year relationship. Libra spent all of his effort chasing hard to "win me over" because I was a bit leery and wanted to go slow, to casually date for awhile. It was a challenge. It was typical head-over-heels stuff, full-on Libra fashion, then after he started getting to me, he slammed on the brakes and did a complete 180 -- just like every hot & cold Libra man horror story there ever was. I was very hurt, feeling like he'd completely tricked me, or I'd fooled myself into thinking he was something he was not, that WE were something we were not. While I was still nursing my wounds from that, enter the 3rd Libra...

I knew him 5 or 6 years (we were both in LTR's when we met), knew OF each other more than actually KNEW each other, didn't run with the same crowd or have many of the same friends. He'd been single and getting over his last bad breakup for about 6 months or so, and had contacted me 3 different times to see if I wanted to hang out. I resisted every advance, which made him try harder. The 4th time he asked me out, he spent 3 days on the phone with me, 7 or 8 hours a night (usually I HATE the phone!) getting to know each other better, trying to convince me to just have lunch with him. I finally said yes, but the DAY of the lunch, he spent 3 hrs convincing me to not cancel! He spent so much effort trying to get my ex out of my mind, it was a challenge!

More in-depth charts use birth TIME too, along with date and place. Without the time, you can't calculate Rising/Ascendant, but generally there are only a couple different choices for Moon on any given day, and a bit of messing with the time can discover what they could be.. usually one will sound more like them. The rest, the Mars and Venus and Mercury and such, which are very, very important in compatibility is usually set the same for each day, regardless of birth time.

My faves:
http://www.alabe.com/freechart/>Astrolabe Free Chart for a good, detailed, basic chart. I like http://www.cafeastrology.com/>Cafe Astrology too, esp their http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal>Natal (Birth) Chart and THEN scrolling to the bottom to click "add a second person - compatibility" to get a more detailed compatibility report of you (already done the Natal Chart) and adding him (if you know birth time).. otherwise, there's a basic comp chart using just birth dates, but to me, that doesn't go deep enough.

I also like http://www.chaosastrology.com/>Chaos Astrology and http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html>Always Astrology and http://www.astroadvice.com/default1.asp>Astro Advice.

I also often Google things like "Pisces Sun, Aries Venus, Taurus Moon" and see what comes up, fun stuff like
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/sun-moon.html<BR> http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html<BR> http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php<BR> http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/libra-sex-horoscope.html<BR> http://novareinna.com/constellation/libralovecomp.html<BR> http://sasstrology.com/category/sex-relationships<BR>
Those will keep you busy for awhile! Have fun! But take breaks and check out the one I'm mailing you! 😉

nefer, a lot of the pisces guys i've known (dated several casually, got my heart broken by one, so decent amount of experience) were actually a bit too masculine. they liked shopping and smelling nice and looking good and stuff. and they were all pretty emotional, but i never saw them as being all that feminine. not at all. now, maybe they were posturing because of how they thought they should act. i don't know. but they definitely wanted me to be my more masculine self all the time. any expression of femininity on my part would usually get them acting up. i agree totally with the rest that you said about female libras with male pisces. it actually sucks a lot because i've gotten along so well with them. it's just so completely hopeless for dating purposes though. they like to give people what they want and so do female libras. and neither likes to say anything first.

i've actually got a pisces (aries cusp-ish) who's been into me. and he's so great. and i know that he'd absolutely hate dating me. he likes me as a friend, but he doesn't realize that i'm different to people i have feelings for and those i just care about. if i did date him, i'd have to hold back my feelings. and if i held back my feelings, i'd never develop them because my feelings develop only when they're allowed to be expressed. so i'd end up breaking his heart, and then he'd get to be the victim. and i hate that piscesboy victim shit. so i'm going to keep playing oblivious, which is definitely a libra strong point.

Posted by LovelyinLavender

@dreamingpisces: I'm sorry I didn't mean to butt in my story because this is your thread but finding this forum was something I didn't know I had been looking for and it was hard to find someone I could relate to. I know you'll be okay 🙂 and if things are meant to be..it'll work out. You'll get through it, be strong and just be polite and professional. He'll probably flirt when he can and be careful of that. I've been in that situation more than I should have lol I've tried avoiding him before but eh that made him come around more and that didn't help. You love your job and this will help u from letting him affect your happiness there. I think the hardest thing was when he began a relationship with my friend/coworker last year. I was heartbroken but I got over it after a while and a few months after they broke up..I was happy and doing my own thing, then he finally noticed me. And it was history from there, now I'm back at square 1. The ironic thing is that by getting involved with him finally pushed me to quit that godawful place and leave the soap opera I walked into five days a week. We'll find someone who appreciates us and all our quirks and won't even hesitate for a second if they want to be with us or not hehe (I think now I'm talking about boys in general because not all Libras are like the ones we know lol)

haha don't apologize! I'm glad to know that I'm not the only 21 year old pisces in this situation. haha. Nice to have someone that can relate to my situation... oh but I know what you mean about the trying to avoid him part, then that doesn't work out so well... comes back when the attention is off of him and I fall into his charm so then the whole mess starts up again! I haven't called him or texted him since before our outing... I don't really want to talk to him. But he hasn't called/texted me either so its whatever. I wish he could just be straight up and honest about his feelings about me. But he probably doesn't even know what hes feeling. Also, I have a question, did your libra ever try to "buy you back" ... like, my libra, whenever he did something to upset me, instead of talking to me about it or apologizing he'd buy me something and think everythings ok, Without talking about what happened. It wasn't until after the first couple of times he did this to me did I realize what he was doing... he was trying to literally

buy me back and he thinks material possessions are going to keep me around when all I wanted was his love. He never once introduced me to his friends as his girlfriend.... big big red flag that I ignored right there too.... I thought at first it was because he didn't want people to start talking at work about us, which I understood because I didn't want that either. But he wouldn't even introduce his out of work friends to me as his gf either... I am realizing all this stuff now that I let him get away with/ignored/let go because I was blinded by my own feelings. I don't think he is going to change, honestly... I hope that he does, but I can't make anyone change for me. Just accept them as they are. If this is how he is going to be, I don't want it. Unless he changes because he wants to, then theres nothing more that I can do.

ahhh I am so naive/innocent. I really am. This is my first relationship, & if nothing works out I can at least say that I've learned a lot.

@Nefer: I will message you back and thank you for all the info in depth! 🙂

@dreamingpisces: It sucks not getting a straight answer 😢 I still have alot of unanswered questions but it doesn't matter anymore because the jerk finally made his decision. I found out today he is now in a relationship with someone else and she is a former coworker of mine...I was totally blindsided by it. He never mentioned there was another girl in the equation and I guess he was confused mostly because he was deciding which one would be a better choice for him. *Sigh* I don't understand, I was simple...no baggage. This girl..she just broke up with her boyfriend a few weeks ago because she didn't want to settle down. But it's much more complicated because this girl, her ex, the jerk, and his ex are all connected..but it's too much of a mess I don't want to try to explain it. But u know what I mean, it seemed like a cycle of revenge and I'm angry about all the lies and glad that I didn't wait for him and left when I could. I was really devastated but I'm not going to confront him. He made his choice and now all I can do is move forward but at least I'll be alot more wiser.
To answer your question, he'd buy my favorite food n dessert and sometimes have it ready for me at work as a surprise (but in secret). Other than that, I didn't get other stuff but I wasn't into material gifts either. I just wanted him but when a problem arose, he'd say all the time that I should know him and trust him and he was hurt that I was questioning him about it. ARGH. Now it's so clear to me that it was only a guilt-trip and I was blinded by my feelings about him as well. Don't ignore the red flags anymore, it should further convince u he may not be the right one for you. They'll show their true colors eventually but follow what ur gut tells u. We took the risk to love and the outcome is different for everyone. I hope it works out for u but remember when in doubt, think of what you want in a guy n does he represent that and is he treating u the way u should be treated? If u did all u could and he doesn't seem to be trying at all..let him be, don't regret..it's his loss. I was naive as well but still innocent lol We all have to start somewhere, don't let this guy make u doubt urself in anyway or get anything he doesn't deserve. I'm a major believer in karma anyways and what comes around, goes around. Hang in there ok!

Posted by Nefer
even in my extended chart.

Where can I find my extended chart...is there a website that offers it? Are you referring to the second board with all the sign in conjunction, trines, ect??

Posted by Days22
I think some Libras use the whole balance shtick as an excuse to be assjackets.

I don't think this is just something to set on Libras I think on the whole anyone/person is capable of being an "assjacket" I do agree that this person may be one but as far as tagging this as a Libra thing? Again I beg to differ.

Cheers

Fox

@LovelyInLavender: ... wow, that guy sounds really shady, like my libra... I have had these suspicions for a while that he is into this other girl at work. One night I asked him what we were going to be doing, then hes like "nothing, I'm tired" I go "oh ok, rest up then I'll talk to you later" I called him later before I went to bed and he claimed he just stayed home and did nothing but take a nap, then I find out the next day at work that he went to that girls place. I would have been ok w/it if he just told me he was going to go. but the fact that he hid it from me made me question a lot. also the fact that later on he always made plans that revolved around her. Once we had plans, just him and I and I got ready and everything, was waiting for him to text me back about the plans and nothing, I got stood up and surprise surprise he was with that girl. Idk, I just thought it was weird... For all I know they COULD just be friends, but the way he goes about it is sneaky and its like he has something to hide. He did things I should have confronted him about but instead I always gave him the benefit of the doubt and swept it under the rug claiming I was overthinking things or letting my imagination get away w/me again. But I've just heard from enough people that his behavior isn't right and I'm seeing their point. I'm not going to ignore red flags anymore, I'll let my intuition guide me.

He did a total and complete change from the guy I thought I knew... and thought I even loved. silly silly naive little me... idk who this guy is anymore.

Sorry things didn't go good for you and your libra either 😢

It's okay 🙂 My mind is finally free from all the confusion and hopeless "what if or I should have..situations." And I hope you'll find peace with your situation too. Don't beat yourself up over it...it's easy to fall into our own world of self-pity, I know it all too well. It hurt my ego and heart that my guy had picked the other girl but I knew it wasn't going to help wondering what happened to that great guy I once knew or obsessing over why her and that I wasn't good enough for him. I have more respect for myself than that, I can find a way better guy and I'll know what REAL love is then...and so will you.

It sounds like your libra is into the other girl. If it hadn't been for his secretive actions then you wouldn't be doubting his "friendship" with this girl. You'll know if they eventually make it official, it's just his sneaky behavior definitely is not right. And you got stood up by him? WHAT!? I really don't like this guy. I know it's tough to see them for the jerks that they really are because for a while we thought they were our prince charming. My friend pointed that out to me and it made me wince because I was totally blinded by my feelings and the excitement of it all. And I almost forgot about the things I wanted to accomplish in my life so that I could fit him in it....when deep down, I knew I was just trying to fit a round peg in a square hole (totally remembered that line from the movie The Holiday lol). I felt stupid falling for it but the feeling didn't last because then you'll realize what's really important..you're not defending his actions anymore and you were smart in ending it before u got even more hurt.

glad to hear that your mind is free from all that. It IS too much to deal with and can really break a person down :/ but I can DEFINITELY relate to what you wrote, I allowed (and I guess am still allowing...) myself to fall into the world of self pity and am still asking myself all these questions.. what went wrong? what could I have done differently? but its no use, whats done is done. Nothing left to say or do about the matter. It is clear that he doesn't care as much as I thought he did... Next time I will listen to my friends when they say something about a guy because its true, sometimes our feelings REALLY do blind us from the reality of a matter.

We will find someone that will like us for who we are, someone that will give us NO doubt about their feelings 😛 ... thats what I keep telling myself

Listen, @Dreamingpisces, I am new here, but I've been a Pisces 39 years : ). I too have been dealing with the Libra male drama and some of what you discuss sounds eerily familiar, althouh I'd never put up with a few of the things your describe. I don't know much about Libras, but I know A LOT about Pisces women. We love hard. We are honest, open, and caring, until someone violates all that. I do know that the attention paid you in the beginning probably made it even easier for you to open up and be vulnerable to him. This probably made it VERY easy for your naturally nurturing, supportive side to kick in-allowing you to shower him with lost of attention, which I hear Libras LOVE. I could be wrong, but it seems Libras are all about the chase moreso than the prize. At least, that is what it sounds like with your Libra, and mine too. I don;t dount he cares for you. Initially, you were new to him, so he came on strong and was charming to win you over to explore his curiosities. Not that he doesn't have feelings for you, but I feel that Libras really are driven by the unknown, and they get bored once they "know", so to speak. Now you are no longer a mystery to him. I didn't read your entire thread, but I know as Pieces woman, I'm sure you told him, or showed him how you really feel for him.

Look how he behaves when you stand your ground and pay him no attention: he comes chasing after you, much like he behaved in teh beginning. This is your power-shift. This is when you have a chance to take control of the matter. I'd continue being "busy" when he calls for a bit longer. Then, agree to see him. When you go out, go out of your way to be pleasant and un-moved by anything that's happened with you. Laugh, be light, have fun....YOU cut the date short though...right when he is beginning to loosen up and enjoy himself...set your alarm clok on your cell phone perhaps, but cut it short and tell him you had a blast, but you've gotta run because you have other plans! Then kiss him on the cheek (friendly), and leave!!! DON"T call or contact him after...I don't care if its a month later...DON'T. And when he calls you, take his call, but talk briefly and tell him you're in the middle of something and you'll call him back, but DON"T CALL HIM BACK.
Continue this pattern and you will shift the power here....I promise you...you'll have him wondering why you aren't chasing him and what/who has you soooo pre-occupied that you'd dare interrupt "his" time to them!

@1naughtyprofessor: I defnintely get what you're saying...

and this DEFINITELY rang true in my situation... "We love hard. We are honest, open, and caring, until someone violates all that. I do know that the attention paid you in the beginning probably made it even easier for you to open up and be vulnerable to him. This probably made it VERY easy for your naturally nurturing, supportive side to kick in-allowing you to shower him with lost of attention, which I hear Libras LOVE. I could be wrong, but it seems Libras are all about the chase moreso than the prize. At least, that is what it sounds like with your Libra, and mine too. I don;t dount he cares for you. Initially, you were new to him, so he came on strong and was charming to win you over to explore his curiosities. Not that he doesn't have feelings for you, but I feel that Libras really are driven by the unknown, and they get bored once they "know", so to speak. Now you are no longer a mystery to him. I didn't read your entire thread, but I know as Pieces woman, I'm sure you told him, or showed him how you really feel for him."

as a result of that I feel terribly confused. But I've been doing as you said, I have stopped contact with him and even when I'm talking to mutual friends and he comes up in the topic of conversation I change subject. Unfortunately I work with the guy so ignoring him isn't going to work for so long, but I'm just going to have to try and keep it strictly professional. So when we start work up again I'm sure hes bound to pick up on the fact that things are going to be different now. I haven't talked to him/heard from him for a week now... and with each day that goes by its getting easier and easier to go on with my life as it was before he came along 😛 Thank you for your input, very helpful 🙂

more updates on the situation...
So I have just been working on myself, as many of you wonderfuls on here have suggested. 🙂
Now hes the one that has been contacting me, texting me, asking me to go out. The tables have turned. and I have learned a lot.
I have learned to not make him more to me than he should be.... he gets what he gives... I'm not going to sit around and wait for him. If he doesn't call... whatever. Thats his deal.
As long as he is treating me with care and respect, then that is what he will get from me.

He texted me hey whats up? and I told him how I've been..I asked him what hes been up to... so just small talk right now, and its ok. I appreciate that hes at communicating with me. It does bother me when he goes all quiet on me but I'm not letting it bother me as much as it has been before.

It took me a long time to realize that I can't have such expectations from people. I can't make anyone act a certain way. I just have to accept them as they are and how they do things and hope that they do the same with me.

This is my first relationship and I know I have a lot lot lot more to learn! But hey, I'm glad I'm learning 🙂

We hung out the other night... we watched movies and were with his friends & a few random people. One guy started hitting on me in front of him and that made me uncomfortable. I could tell that it made him uncomfortable too.. lol. so we went outside, idk. Even though we weren't really doing much that night I was enjoying his company and not letting myself worry or over think things. Then when I was leaving HE initiated the goodbye hug. I was always the one having to do that... but I'm glad he did this time.

I don't really know whats going on between us at all... but he didn't correct his friend when I got introduced as his girlfriend.

Aww I'm glad things have gotten better and he's making an effort on his part. Keep doing what you're doing, u know what u want n u're being smart about this. Be happy and have fun but be careful too, okay? 🙂

Posted by LovelyinLavender
Aww I'm glad things have gotten better and he's making an effort on his part. Keep doing what you're doing, u know what u want n u're being smart about this. Be happy and have fun but be careful too, okay? 🙂

thank you 🙂 but yeah I'm defninitely keeping myself guarded/careful. I'm trying not to let my emotions get the better of me like before.
sometimes I wish he would just open up to me a little more but that will all come with time I guess.

we hung out tonight once again... well with his friends too. (its soo hard to get it to be just the two of us! but i don't want to mess anything up as its going pretty ok lately)

haha funny I'm writing one moment thinking things are going ok, then they go to shit again...
I think I'm gonna get off this roller coaster ride.

I need someone I can rely on. someone that I don't have so many doubts with.
He is not acting like a guy would act if he truly cared about a girl.


this fishy can't take no more 😢 I need me some water. lol.