what does he want from me...

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I don't understand...I have decided to only take it as him being overly friendly but...

LONG STORY SHORT:
We did go out on a long walk (unformal date because of how it came up)

I still see him a few times a week at my local gym. I don't go as often so I can get over him faster.

Major point that could have turned him off:
I was bashing (thanks to my Scorpio sun) the rich people in my area without regards to the fact that he was one of them. I honestly think that this was one of the major things that might have turned him off...I see that he is very drawn to all things materialistic...he tried to figure out where I lived...and for some reason he thought I lived in the heights of my area; that I was part of the riches (probably bcuz of my Leo rising)which is flattering but at the same time tells you a lot about a guy like that! Why should it even matter to him? So before I gave my *sagi speech* about how all things material were bad he was so into me, like crazy, to the point where his presence freaked me out. I mean I would turn around and he would be staring at me or always wanting to hang out and talk!!!

Now...things are not so hot. I had asked him to go grab a quick bite and it seemed that it was such a big deal to him. All these questions were popping out...as if I was asking him to get me the moon. Anyways I understand him and I truly believe that he wouldn't try to hurt my feelings or to plainly lie because it just doesn't add up. Little situations have proved him to be a man of his word. But there is something that is holding him back. I am sure that it has to do with his rational mind trying to size the situation and take the best decision...

I understand that "acts of kindness" shouldn't be overly analyzed because libras tend to be careful and utterly kind.

But some things just don't add up. Please see below:

- I mean he makes a conscious effort to come and see me before leaving if he is done working out before me.
- He remembers things I've told him 2-3 months ago (and we are not talking about major stuff)
- He wanted to know where I lived precisely (btw now he knows exactly...which is weird since I don't know where he lives)
- Same thing with my job...he wanted to know in which industry and for which company I worked (and yes now he knows)
- He knows that I'm home alone bcuz he remembered my mom was leaving.
- He thinks of me when the weather is nice bcuz he knows how much I love heat.

...To be continued...
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Incident that happened lately:

I went to train at a different time slot than him and lost my lose key at the gym...when I went back as an effort to find it he was there. I was too preoccupied by looking for my key therefore I didn't really pay attention to him.

Anyways I was looking around when he came my way asking if everything was ok, I then said, no I lost a lose key around here.

He was empathetic and started looking with and told a guy nearby if he had seen my key...now there is another guy that actually has a crush on me very openly and he acted the same way...very attentive and looking for the key with me as well.

Anyways my guy than asked me how I was going to get home and that meanwhile he would keep an open eye for me on the key.

A few days past by, I was on the threadmill running pretty fast 7.0 miles which is not a comfortable talking rate...anyways he had never interrupted me during a work out but he came to see me at the threadmill and asked me whether I had found the key to which I replied no and then he asked me how I managed to get home and so I said that a family friend had a spare...and that had been my back up plan. And then he was like watch out because you no longer have a back up plan...anyways we talked a bit after about things in general and our work outs ended as usual by a "ok take care, have a nice evening, see you soon" type of thing....

Arggggg.....I mean I'd love to be straightforward with him and just basically tell him how I feel about him...but you know what...it is too hard...the fear of rejection is just so big!!!!

By the way he is a libra in his late thirties...his moon his either in cancer or gemini...

My sun is in Scorp, My moon is in saggi and my rising in leo
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He likes you. Us Libra men can be painfully slow to talk it to the next level because many of us have deep rooted fears of rejection as well. Speaking in stereotypes here, we also like to make you ask us that way if it doesn't work... well you're the one who asked, it isn't our fault. Him hanging out after your workouts to talk, remembering things you thought were small, and really trying to find out about you... yeah he likes you.

One problem I see is that you mocked him. Even if it wasn't your intent, that is most likely how he will see it. Libras aren't generally "too materialistic", we like nice stuff (who doesn't) but it normally isn't our main focus. If he has done well in his life, made good money, and has nice stuff... then you come in and make fun of all the rich people around he probably took it as a personal attack. We take everything personally even if it wasn't.

He probably wasn't trying to see where you lived to "qualify" you. It is just an easy topic. Where do you live, what do you do, do you have family in the area, etc. Superficial answers are never enough for us if we care about the subject.

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Do you really think so...it just is so hard for me to read through him...I mean there are so many things I love about him, he always greets me with a smile and is always there to offer an helping hand...it is just too much for me to take it simply as friendship. The thing is I did make another move as I said earlier when I asked him to go grab a bite and the fact that he didn't respond to it positively froze me up...

I know for a fact that he isn't trying to avoid me at all...but yet I just feel that he is indecisive...I just wonder what goes on in his head...As a scorpio I don't feel as I could be a threat to him as I am quite balance in my emotions...I know when to back off and when to rise...I owe it to my saggi moon!!!

LibraSid you always have great insight! Thanks so much...one more question for you...

How would a Libra behave if he wanted to send a clear message that he wasn't interested!?

Also would you think that he could only want to be friends in the way he behaves...an extremely good friend. I doubt it because friends do make plans together...
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by piece.

Posted by ScorpSage
he always greets me with a smile and is always there to offer an helping hand...it is just too much for me to take it simply as friendship.



Most of us are very friendly people. He likely greets everyone with a smile, I do. We are also usually helpful to a fault. We are frequently too accommodating to others. Based on some of the more subtle queues you mention I do think he is interested though. If you want to know for sure, watch how he interacts with other women. Not just the surface level stuff though, we are friendly with everyone. Does he wait for other women to finish conversations so he can talk to them. Does he crawl around the floor looking for everyone's keys? He sounds like the little boy on the schoolyard who likes a girl but is afraid to say it.

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The thing is I did make another move as I said earlier when I asked him to go grab a bite and the fact that he didn't respond to it positively froze me up...



I would have expected him to accept this offer. Perhaps he is just really insecure. He is still trying to decide if he should (or is able to) move forward. There are some mixed signals here but we do that sometimes. hmmm

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I know for a fact that he isn't trying to avoid me at all...but yet I just feel that he is indecisive...I just wonder what goes on in his head...
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We are infamous for being indecisive. It is one of our biggest faults. We weigh the options, pros and cons, possibilities, for so long that we often miss opportunities right in front of us. Our minds never stop moving. When I ask someone what they are thinking and get the response "nothing"... I cannot even imagine having no thoughts. There is always something going on in our minds.

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Posted by ScorpSage

one more question for you...

How would a Libra behave if he wanted to send a clear message that he wasn't interested!?

Also would you think that he could only want to be friends in the way he behaves...an extremely good friend. I doubt it because friends do make plans together...



You know what... if he only wanted to be friends I think the lunch thing would have been a no-brainer. As backwards as it sounds, if he wasn't interested then lunch is "safe". If he is interested but is either afraid or still trying to decide then lunch puts him on the spot. Try doing something less "date-like". Try to just hang out somewhere. Suggest somewhere that you want him to go. Try to plant the idea so that it becomes his.

He sounds like he has had some bad relationships and is just being cautious. Libras can get attached quickly, maybe he is forcing himself to slow down. Depending on his past there could be a lot going on. Still, some of the subtle things make him seem very interested.
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Wow Librasid...yet again impressive!

Well to answer your questions...he does not talk to other women at all...I don't think he knows any at the gym.

When I say that he greets me with a smile...he doesn't do that with other people...and when he is done his work outs he doesn't say bye to anyone else!!!

And really to answer all of the other questions...NO he doesn't pay as much attention to anyone as much!!!

Frankly I'd love to think that he likes me but I am so afraid...I mean I really feel like he is my soulmate...and I have met many guys and none have made feel so at ease and so stressed up at the same time...

Everytime I talk to him...I get all tangled up inside...it's an amazing feeling!!! Months later and I still feel the same!!!

CRAZY I know...but I can't do otherwise!!! Thanks Librasid for your advise...I'll bring something up again perhaps along the "walking/running theme". I know for a fact that he likes to keep fit!

Amethyst; thanks for your advice...if only you knew him, he isn't that predictable...but I can understand your very rational POV and I couldn't agree more but this case isn't applicable.
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Deja vu.......this sounds like how mr libra and i started out...
Only difference he always invited me to his wine bar,when i didnt turn up,he would be back in my work with another invitation.
So the fact he was iffy about you too grabing abite is questionable.
The smiles,been helpful,asking you lot of questions about your life and remembering little things are all good signs.

It sounds like your really into him.....gosh libra men do have this way with women.
Do you know anything about him? Maybe you should do some research? And if the coast is clear suggest going to museum,art gallery etc.Just find out if anything is on....and see if he would like to go along.

Good Luck.
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Posted by amethyst2002
Don't stress so much and quit reading into every tiny detail. It'll drive you nuts and is something women are notorious for doing when it comes to men.



This can be especially true for Libras... we read into all the details too but we often don't recognize the signals we are sending out. If you try to figure them all out you can/will go crazy because most of the time we don't even understand ourselves.

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It sounds like your really into him.....gosh libra men do have this way with women.
Do you know anything about him? Maybe you should do some research? And if the coast is clear suggest going to museum,art gallery etc.Just find out if anything is on....and see if he would like to go along.




This is good advice too. A lot of us like art and museums, plus it's not a typical date. It'll make you stand out.

And yes, we do have a way with women. =)

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When I say that he greets me with a smile...he doesn't do that with other people...and when he is done his work outs he doesn't say bye to anyone else!!!

And really to answer all of the other questions...NO he doesn't pay as much attention to anyone as much!!!




Singling you out is a good sign; however, you said he doesn't really know anyone else there so you cannot really make a comparison. Still, he is giving more attention to you than most would to some one they wanted to be "just friends" with.

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Frankly I'd love to think that he likes me but I am so afraid...I mean I really feel like he is my soulmate...and I have met many guys and none have made feel so at ease and so stressed up at the same time...

Everytime I talk to him...I get all tangled up inside...it's an amazing feeling!!! Months later and I still feel the same!!!
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I am a hopeless romantic, but slow it down! Most Libras are charming and have this way about them that makes others want to be around us. You are falling head over heels for a guy that you aren't sure about yet. Not to be a downer but get some affirmation from him before you get too wrapped up in it.
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Posted by FemmeScorpion
See Libsid, i can give good advice too.🙂
Lol ave a way with women.....horrible but its the truth.
Gosh am turning into a softie....😢




I have never attacked or spoken ill of you. I have watched the fights but I have abstained.

I like the effect we have on women. I have always had a large group of attractive female friends/acquaintances. Now that I am single again, I think this will prove valuable once more. =)


By the way ScorpSage, Libras generally don't stay single long. As always there are exceptions to the rule, but stereotypes exist for a reason.
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See Libsid, i can give good advice too.🙂
Lol ave a way with women.....horrible but its the truth.
Gosh am turning into a softie....😢



We are such big softies...I mean deep down under this thick shell...we are as soft as a marshmallow..but we will never let it show...

Take for example my Libra...I am no way close to behave like that around him...I try to be as cool as possible...of course at times I fumble and lose my line of thought but other than that I do not come off as clingy or too much...proof is he comes for more!!!

As for LibSid...it is true that I am going a bit overboard...I mean I do feel strongly about him but not as desperate as it might have sounded...I go days without going to the gym...sometimes I don't seem him over a week...plus I don't go out of my way to go to the gym if my schedule doesn't allow it!!! Lol...With the past stuff I have been saying you must that I am a crazy desperate chick!!!! lol...which I can be but not in this case!!!!

How about you LibSid...are you in a relationship right now...if so what is the sign of your s/o??

How about you FemmeScorp any gentleman in your life to rock your scorp boat?

Btw what are both of your moon and rising signs—
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I wasn't insinuating that you are desperate just throwing out a word of caution just in case =) I don't judge anyway, just trying to shed some light on us misunderstood Libra men.


I am Libra sun Aries moon with Libra rising. I have Libra all over in my chart. As for the relationship thing, I am in the middle of a divorce. I was married for eight years. I figured out why it didn't work though. Turns out the Libra in me couldn't handle the Bitch in her! 😕 haha. She was Aquarius.

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@LIBRASID
Yeah...I see....yeah my best friend is aquarius and sometimes they can be annoying with their ungoing nonchalance...

@Femmescorp
ooohhh lady boy are you ever intense...two water signs...woooshhhh...you can be quite wishy washy...hence the constant micommunication with your libra...

I am lessen'd because of my saggi moon...I think that it could have been worse, had I a moon in a water sign!!!

You guys are great...with both of you I get the bright side of things thanks to Mr. Libra and the dark reality of things with Ms.Scorp!!!! Love love love it!!!!
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Awww ur welcome hun...believe me i wish i had a different moon sign...the intensity drowns me at times.
And its so hard for me to let go and just walk away...yet i crave contol....but when i have someone full attention i play up...and when they back off i want it back. Not good.

Yep Librasid is great...alot of the men on here are....i love the male POV.
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She was detached and emotionally unavailable from the get go. In retrospect I knew better than to get involved but she was a high-school sweetheart. I have loved her for 16 years. It is another sad common trait with us Libras, if we get attached we take a lot more than we should and keep coming back for more. True gluttons for punishment at times.

All said and done I got three great kids and a lot of years worth of good memories. I will never allow her back into my life but I do not regret the time I gave her.
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Awww ur welcome hun...believe me i wish i had a different moon sign...the intensity drowns me at times.




@femmescorp: lol...isn't your moon is Pisces...lol...sort of to speak obviously but funny enough!!!

@librasid...you are adorable...I love your peacefulness...there is a sort of serenity in your advice that keeps us wanting more...anywho...just curious you seem young, yet you have three kids...how old r u?? when were you born??
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@librasid...you are adorable...I love your peacefulness...there is a sort of serenity in your advice that keeps us wanting more...anywho...just curious you seem young, yet you have three kids...how old r u?? when were you born??



Well thank you, that is very kind. I will be 30 at the end of September. My boys are 7 and 8 and my baby girl just turned 5 earlier this month.
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Hey peeps! Good morning!!!

@ Librasid: Wow you are young...I had feeling you were young but yet very wise!!! which is even better! Like Femme Scorp said...you are an old soul! So it must be hard to have to explain to your 2 other adoptive sons that mommy and daddy will no longer be together!! Mmmmm...but you've known her since highschool...did you guys take a break in between..and then found each other and got married?? When did she get knocked up twice?? Is she much younger than you??

So I saw him yesterday and we joked around a lot, actually we flirted a lot (I had started this joke because on week-ends he always comes an hour before the gym closes and then he is the last to leave). So at some point I went to him:

Me:You know you can spend the night here, I heard some benches a quite comfortable..
He: Really, that's a good idea (walking towards me he says) Do you mind showing me which ones you think are best?
Me: Of course, this one for example has a wide back, quite comfortable for continuous hours of sleep.
He: That's nice and how about the inclined ones??
Me: Well you might have some troubles in the morning...like no more blood in your brain!!! lol
He: I see...then I'll take your advice in consideration.

Anyways yesterday we continued on the same gag...lol...he goes to me, I'm planning to sleep here tonigh...I laughed and responded: So you finally made up your mind, which one are sleeping on...


Anyways as you can see it is nonsense fun...but that is what matters...next time I should pop something along the line of: Well if you are afraid of the dark, I can keep you company!!! lol 😄

It is great!!! Because everytime I leave the gym I just feel uplifted...I guess it is the air he puts in my life...lightens every strong emotion!!!
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Odd question... yes she was brunette. Why?

I have always thought of myself as an "old soul", I had to grow up early.

Yeah we started early... well she did, the boys aren't technically mine but I raised them. Nurture > Nature.




Librasid...i asked because i read somewhere,libra men rather brunettes....as they like their women mysterious and blondes can appear too shallow.
The libra i know likes girls with dark hair...so i just wanted to see if it was a libra thing.lol
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Hello ScorpSage.....awwww i soo get you when you said the following. "It is great!!! Because everytime I leave the gym I just feel uplifted...I guess it is the air he puts in my life...lightens every strong emotion!!!"

I really need to stop reading your thread its bringing back all the gr8 memories/times i shared with mr libra.😢
I do believe he likes you,anyway has a woman your gut can tell you if someone is into you. The next step would be moving it unto the next level-this is the "difficult" bit. Libras can be indecisive......so do you take the plunge and suggest something like keeping him company....sure you can say that.....however ill play it differently.
Suggest a cafe/winebar where they have the most comfy sofas etc....."have you been to love lounge,they have the best smoothies/coffee and the sofas/chairs are amazing!!". Then invite him.
Thats just me,i'll play it like that,as to me that will move things along abit,and you can have a nice chat in a different environment and find out abit more about him.
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Teasing him a little is a good thing. We generally see courting as a game, not that we don't take it seriously we just like to have fun doing it. Also, make everything seem as natural as possible. The location of the dates, the atmosphere, the energy. Try to get rid of tension.

Side note: I don't want to derail your thread with junk about my ex. I did make a thread and have no problem sharing I just didn't want to clutter up what hopefully becomes your happy story with my crap =)