After nearly 3 years of back and forth with my pisces man...I've officially unceremoniously broke up with him.
We had gotten back together after a hiatus (around say july ish...august ish) about 3 weeks ago. Then he got upset after seeing me in a club...watching 2 see who talks to me and vice versa...then after ignoring me (as in not conversing with me just slyly watching me) as he gets ready to leave he asks me to stand up and hug and kiss him!! I knew and he knew it was a ploy to ward off any guys that wanted to talk to me. Needless to say I didn't like this. We had just argued the night before so..this was yet another thing!
The night before, after I expressed my issues with our issue that night he says, "I guess I won't be talking to u for a few days"...I said "typical" and hung up in his face.
He called me back (surprisingly) the next night apologizing asking me if I was still mad & did I feel like talking. I told him no & that I was down because of the murders of jennifer hudsons family (which was true). My sister convinced me to go to this club/talent showcase and I saw him there. I guess he felt I lied...(I didn't feel like talking but here I am at the club to potentially talk to other men!).
He calls me the next day..I don't pick up. He more than likely says to himself "she wants to play this game ill show her"..so..he doesn't call me for like a week. He constantly pulls the dissappearing act...when he doesn't get his way. Manipulation at its worse. Only it gets old after 3 years...I stopped chasing him and he always swims back crying.
I realized he's very possessive, manipulative, & controlling.
Pisces calls and tells me he just wants to say goodbye & that he was saying goodbye forever no turning back. (I knew he was only saying this because I was not taking his calls.)
Fast forward last weekend...
***Picture the following in slow motion***
Riding downtown in the passenger side of the car of the guy I'm dating. Pisces is walking down the street...we catch each others eye...
We pull up at the hotel...valet is talking to my new guy...pisces comes up to my window and says "oh is this ur new boyfriend"..I say "yes"...he says, "oh congratulations" and sticks his hand in the window and I shake his hand like thanks..while rolling my eyes.
My guy nor the valet knows what the hell is going on. I roll my window up... (mind you the valet is on my side of the car..so my ex is talking OVER the valet). My ex knocks on the window asking "so how long yall been together". I tell my new guy to pull off. He does. We ride off into the sunset.
**End SCENE*
I swear pisces must've ran up to see where we were going. He followed the car on foot. I had to inform my new guy what was going on...he was upset but calmed down thank god...
Pisces is BLOWING UP MY PHONE!!! I'm not picking up... So he's leaving messages...(I'm summarizing..the messages were over 4 mins each)
Message 1: "Oh that's how you do it huh? I knew you didn't really love me..you really hated me...so you just like all the rest of the girls out here" ETC
Message 2: him breathing on the phone
Message 3: "You at the hotel with some dude!.. I'm so hurt... I know you need to call me so we can talk face to face. I'm feeling really bad right now. I can't believe you...how could you live like that...you know I love you..you know I'm the best thing for you..I just love you...I just want you...we saw each other for a reason..I thought you said you wanted to marry me, have my kids..."
Message 4: "I guess it's not that hard for you to move on...My heart is really heavy right now..you need to call me so this bad energy can go somewhere...so I can get rid of it in the right way...before it gets all out of hand."
5: "U need to call me tonight! Before something bad happens...You don't want to ignore me...trust me...just please don't ignore me...You gonna have to see me..It'll be best we talk best for me and you"
6: "Aye, call me before something bad happens"
7: "Call me tonight..you prolly still out..you're gonna have to see me"
8: "I'mma catch up with you"
9: "I'm coming by your house, I'll be there waiting on you"
10: "no on second thought I wont be there.. I'll just surprise you when you least expect it..so be looking out for me."
The messages got shorter as he continued to leave them.
That last time he decided to "swim away" he just knew I'd be waiting on him with baited breath...to return. (manipulation tactic) As I said earlier...it got to the point where he could voice his issues about our relationship to me...but as soon as I voiced mine, he pulled the disappearing act.
A girl has a life too.
Why oh why do people only realize what they have when it's gone? How far do you expect to push another person before you push them away completely...
If I were a boy. I think I could understand. How it feels to love a girl..I swear I'd be a better man. I'd listen to her. Cuz I know how it hurts. To lose the one you wanted Cuz he's taking you for granted And everything you had got destroyed.
lol..I'm a water sign too elena (gemini-cancer cusp).
But damn...everybody gets tired sometimes. The guy I'm seeing now...we're not passionately in love with eachother... but he appears to be mentally, finacially, morally, and every other ly...STABLE. Somewhat "normal" you know. I'd rather someone that is not as emotional as I am. Felt like I was in a freaking lesbian relationship with my pisces.
I was just telling my friend that my life is like a freaking movie. Seriously my love life ESPECIALLY. Honestly I always thought I could have my own reality show...unscripted.
I was saving the messages in case he tried anything stupid. You can never be too careful these days. Now I'm thinking of putting some of the messages at the begining of a song I wrote...so I recorded them from my phone and have them saved on my computer.
Now I'm tempted to email them to anyone who thinks I'm lying. But I don't know if I give that much of a f**k.
"Hon-AY!!! Been there, done that...still doing it. I grew up with this aries/pisces chica...and I would be relaying all these stories about my scorp to her and she'd be looking at me like I was insane..cuz it couldnt POSSIBLY have happened. He would show me the real him and then show everyone else...a different side...naturally
Anyway, she then decides to get involved with a scorp (who she's married to now) and NOW...who's telling me the crazy stories and wishing she'd hung on to the taurus she let get away— lmao"
You know!! I'm sitting here thinking...this is pretty mild. They really wouldn't believe the time we almost got arrested day after Valentine's for arguing in the car in a hotel parking lot after he went thru my phone. Police asked what was wrong he spotted his joint & tried to grab it before they saw and they went CRAZY!! I'm talking about they had tasers aimed and EVERYTHING. All I could think was "DONT TASE ME BRO".
First time I'd ever been in handcuffs (by police lol).
I'm so this and that...yet...here you are. Wow. Passive aggressive much?
Love 365...
I guess you're trying to insult me, but whatever I'll respond anyway. I learned a lesson a looong time ago. Sh*t gets remedial after a while. Everytime I tried to leave something kept holding me back..But that ship has sailed. It's not like I wanted it to...it just did.. I met a good man, he treats me well...he pulled me out of this this MESS. I told him my heart was broken but he's still around being his sweet self. I'm so lucky. Maybe all this was for me to be able to recognize and appreciate a GOOD man. He wants to get serious but I'm still taking it slow.
As for pisces .. it's just so over.
"We're so over, we need another word for over." (c) Carrie on Sex in the City when she left BIG after the last affair he had on his wife with her, you know the line she said walkind out of the hospital.. after taking Big's wife there after she broke her tooth chasing Carrie out of their apartment.
I re-read my comments and I do appear to have an air of nonchalance. I think it's part nonchalance part sick & tired. I think that's what caught him off guard too...I can be emotionally high strung, but I played it so damn cool when I saw him. He was dam near in an uproar.
I don't know. Its like I care so much the s**t has reversed to me not caring at all. Like I just give too much of a f**k to give a f**k.
My prose probably lends itself to you thinking that. Although that story has no embellishments keep in mind I am a writer, an artist if you will. So my s**t's gonna be funky even when it stinks. Ya dig?
And while I do have a flair for the dramatics, I am an easy going chica. I keep a high low profile. Capricorn moon...hate being embarrassed. Absolutely HATE it. Hate silly behavior. Can you imagine how I look in front of my new guy and the VALET at a freakin 5 star hotel? Dressed to the nines?!? Lip gloss poppin and everything?!?! And my new guy is professional! Down to earth but not a raggamuffin like my dear old pisces.
Make no mistake about it. I am put together, even keeled, and I keep my wild emotions in check.
Before this pisces no man EVER took me out of my square. EVER. I've been thru hell and back for this relationship but NADA MAS! He has had me looking all types of crazy! All in the name of love...trying...and trying. I know him like the back of my hand.
But love...
Love don't make things right, when it's so wrong.
Compatibility is WAY more important than love. I can't live the rest of my life going thru this crazy s**t just because I love him. High passion and high ignorance is a recipe for disaster.
It's really not the dramatics that I liked with Pisces. I saw my friends and family, hell my PARENTS go thru dramatic s**t in their relationship and as a child I SWORE it wouldn't be me.
I always wondered why they stayed.
I sincerely love this guy. I mean like soul mate love, you know?
I guess some people like to be stressed out but as for me....the best I can come up with is..I just wanted to be with the one I loved. I fought and fought hard. Fought with him and fought with myself.
I honestly think it's like a drug. Those intial stages of love is just like the "good hit". Then when the s**t goes downhill you still find yourself chasing that high. Doing wild s**t just to get "high" again. Doing things you said you'd never do...cuz see by now you're a junkie. You already experienced the high you know how good it can get...so you believe the promises that it's gonna be the same one day. Sometimes he was the pusher and I was the addict sometimes I was the pusher and he was the addict.
Honestly if it would've been continous I would probably still be a junkie, but he kept leaving. And he just doesn't know he was slowly weening me off the drug.
I've been clean for a while now. My new guy has me in rehab.
You know what tho... You've got me thinking. There are a couple of lessons to be learned here.
The moral of the story kids is:
1. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
2. Always say what you mean and mean what you say. (Don't faux break up with someone or "swim away" from someone if you want them, life is short, people move on while you're bs-ing around)
3. Carpe Diem.
4. What's old to you is just like new to the next man, what you don't do for her (him) she'll find somebody else who can.
5. When a woman's fed up, it aint nothing you can do about it.
6. Sometimes the universe wants to put something else in your hands but you're too busy holding on to the past to see the bright future. You gotta let go of that grip to receive something (someone) better.
What is it that you would like to know. I'll tell u what I'm working on at the moment... A documentary...on homelessness...specifically as it pertains to veterans. I'll be doing the score as well. Hopefully after we get some more sponsors.
I play 3 instruments... Piano, acoustic guitar, and a little bass guitar. I ghostwrite songs and sell them to local artist. I think now I wanna just put myself out there now. My partner and I are putting the finishing touches on our work & shopping around to labels. Working on our imprint right now. Uh lets see.
I paint.
I write screenplays. Just had a play of mine that was done on the mainstage at my old university.
For me as a pisces, I really hate being dumped. I rather be the dumper, no the dumpee. But I usually end up being the dumpee for whatever reason. Then Im sad and want to see if I can fix it. Quite pathetic, I know. But love is love and some people are worth it to me. I get over it eventually and move on, but I have a rough time doing so if I really care about the person.
You are just blurting out all this stuff that has nothing to do with this thread. You're not even adding to the flow of the conversation. I just wanna have sex and never have a family? And I like chasing men? Huh?
Where are u getting this from? U are the only person in this thread that mentioned sex.
Seriously do you even know what this thread is about?
Give it a rest already. P angel makes a better P angel than you.
I think what you're referring back to is my how to get a pisces thread.
I was saying things that I naturally am. My thread was describing me. I'm naturally mysterious and the type to not call or chase a dude irrespective of whether I like him or not. Naturally hot and cold. You on the other hand were playing games trying to keep up with me and be something ur not.
U gotta lotta nerve typing to me in this tone after I saved ur arse from being slaughtered on this board. (Remember when u said u weren't coming back?) How soon we forget. Tsk tsk. And now u want to offer ME advice...
Im convinced pisces men love drama. My ex's favorite quote was...
"The road is rocky but it sure feels good to me".
As for being stubborn & selfish... He told me that he went thru all his old letters from high school. He actually told me,"its crazy..I think I do this 'shut down' thing with all my past girlfriends.."
And "All of them come back to me eventually...I can go back to all my exes"
when i first read your story, i was really not liking you. you seemed cruel
and manipulative and just mean. i understood your disappointment but i couldnt
understand how you dealt with it. how you wanted to completely squash his heart
and then laugh about it all while going to hotel with new guy. as someone
who doesnt know you or the pisces man, other than what you tell us,
you come across as a witch! a really really evil one. the way i perceived the
pisces man: a puppy chasing after the car that you are in, after being tossed out on
side of freeway. made me sad, so much so, that i thought of it alot throughout
the day. you defintely have an ability to stir emotions. im hoping that you
are just practicing your writing skills and none of this is real! if it is, in fact real, i dont hate you as much today as i did yesterday. the more you talk the more i get to know who you are. the more i see someone who is being manipulated as much as she is trying to. i think you are both playing games and i dont think you are doing it to be hateful. i think you are sorely disappointed in this man and i think the pisces is a messed up guy.
i think pisces does love you very much. it would take me forever to tell you why but i defintely hear the love. i think hes very messed up emotionally and maybe you can help us understand if you have details to his life. does he talk about his childhood? the fact that he tells you about all his past girl friends says alot to. hes not bragging. hes trying to see how much he can push you away to see if you will go away. hes been hurt. he tries to run women off before its done to him and the one who stays is the one he will be with. but she has to be more than a whipping post. she has to have a spine and you have one. just know how to use it! it might be too late and youve crossed the line when you went off with other man.
ive seen this dance before. know it well. i feel sorry for you both. he was hoping youd be the one strong enough to deal with him because he knows hes fucked up. you were thinking you would take him down a notch or two and not be like all the others. but hes already there. he needs someone that can see through him. dont ever take someones behaviour personally. its never about you!
if you love him and he loves you, and i say he does and things havent gone too far(you going off with another man) than go to him and try
he holds on to old high school letters?!!!! oh, man, this guy is a puppy. be gentle. hes told
you so much. if he told you anymore, he would look like a pussy. youve already called him that. dont do that. he needs the oppostie. you could have the best friend and most loyal lover and admirer if you just slow down and read between the lines.
Every action has a reaction. Every cause has an effect. We all have things that we have to deal with in life. Who am I to focus on making things right for him when I have my own cross to bear? I stood by this man for as long as I could. His toxic behavior was taking a toll on me so I made the best decision for me and my life.
I didn't manipulate him. Me seeing him with my new guy at the hotel was not planned. I had no plans of going back to him. He broke it off with me, so I moved on. He made a mistake & thought that my heart had a swing door and he could swing in and out at his leisure. That's not how life goes. You reap what you sow. Either s**t or get off the pot. Time waits for no man. Life goes on. Onward and Upward. I'm not about to "baby" a grown man I'm sorry. If he has issues that's up to him and his therapist to work out. I was there to add on to his life, not to complete him or fix him. It's not my responsibility. He's better off going to Jesus.
How can I love somebody else...if I can't love myself enough to know when it's time to let go?
As for getting back together. It's a wrap! I'm a cancer, I give a lot, but when I'm done...I'm done. And I mean it.
And the part about the lost puppy has me LMAO. There's a lot to our relationship that he and I only know. I won't tell everything but I will say that HE could've been in the car with me, riding off into the sunset if:
A. He knew how to treat me.
B. He had a valid drivers license.
C. If he had a car, job & money.
My Mama always said if you make your bed hard you gotta lie in it.
Its called personal responsibility....why do so many pisces have victim mentalities? Its never ever ever their fault. Is this just something you all tell other people or do u actually believe it?
i dont know what your problem is but youve got a BIG one and its you!
thats a very appropriate name for yourself TOO. you called it right. you are a fake!!!
lets get real. enough with the fake shit.
take your "mommas" advice about the "hard bed" and go lay in it yourself! you chose him so go figure out how to get rid of him. dont come around looking for sympathy and trying to make yourself look good and make him look bad. as a matter of fact, all those little sayings MOMMA taught you...use them yourself. you HYPOCRITE.
just out of curiosity you talk about what your mom taught you; what did your dad teach you?
you like to point your finger at your boyfriend but there are three more on your hand pointing back at you! at least hes not fake!
i see right through your bullshit.
you want to run someone down go look in the mirror.
honestly...nobody wants to be around a phony. NOBODY. NOT EVEN THE PUPPY.
I could get just as mean or meaner than you can. want me to show you? is that what you want? you want someone to point out how pathetic you are? tear you down?
I've been told..."I never wanna see u again".."I don't want you"..."Its over"..."I don't ever wanna talk to you again".."goodbye forever"..."BYE THEN"... Sooooo many times...only for him to come back apologize "baby I love you..you r my wife...etc"
what did the guy in the car at the hotel promise ya?
kicking puppy with ur pointy witch boots on isnt going to make him a better boy.
he does love you. you just dont see it. nobody owes you anything. its going to
be rain sometimes. here this is for you cuz i heard her voice singing as i was typing to you.
her name is tammy wynette. talk about a woman that suffered. but she made great music.
she had huge hair. like big. they use to say the bigger the hair the closer to God.
this was the style back in the day. she was really amazing. you should read about all
she went thru with another artist named george jones. its sad when two people love each
other but just are too messed up. no reason to hurt each other. why does it have to be
so hard? try to remember the great times. let things work out the way they will.
my grandmother use to say..."what will be will be"
maybe if you two can catch each other where you are at right now? maybe things as good as you want them to be right now but you can still be there. what do you think? maybe?
ROSE GARDEN LYRICS
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime When you take you gotta give so live and let live and let go oh oh oh oh I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden I could promise you things like big diamond rings But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of clover So you better think it over Well, if sweet talking you could make it come true I would give you the world right now on a silver platter But what would it matter So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy Come along and share the good times while we can I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden I could sing you a tune and promise you the moon But if that's what it takes to hold you I'd just as soon let you go But there's one thing I want you to know.........HE LOVES YOU
My daddy taught me to never put up with a man that has not proven himself to me. Never to depend on a man for my happiness & if he's repeatedly not treating me respectfully to leave him alone. My brother told me never to give a man the benefit of the doubt.
Why are you so angry again? U seem like you have a personal vendetta against me. Are you an alias?
That's the magic question Ian. I loved him. I knew he was going thru things in his life & I stood by him...was there everytime he came back..with open arms. But this time...not this time.
Its weird how he saw me at the hotel...things come back on a person quickly sometimes. Karma's a bad b***h.
U just can't keep saying things...putting things out into the universe you don't want to come back to you.
no i have nothing against you. as a matter of fact i think you are great! i think you
are called cancerlady at one time long ago too. ive wondered how you are if its you?
i think youve been in love with that same guy a long time. that is what is striking about you. you have big heart. what i dont understand is why do you try to hide it behind tough persona? thats not who you are. you cant hide your heart. i know its going to get hurt too sometimes because of it. you dont ever have to apologize for being a good person with a huge heart. many bad things have been done to some of the greatest people but their goodness and kindness was never forgotten and in the long run they were emulated. there needs to be more people with big hearts filled with love and not hard ones.
your dad is right! you dont have to put up with that. you shouldnt. youve said enough. i dont know all the details. none of my business but i will offer this. if hes lost his licsense and everything else, i have a suspicion of why. if you want more info i can give it. too personal.
Ashley...**throws off glasses**...u look at me..look me in my eyes dammit!! Don't you do it. Don't you trade places with me.
My ex had a way of sucking the life right out of me. So emotionally draining there would be times where I literally couldn't walk after a few of our arguements. Just physically could not walk I was so worn out.
The guilt trips...*sigh*
Don't play into it and don't get in too deep..I'm telling you...
Ashley...**throws off glasses**...u look at me..look me in my eyes dammit!! Don't you do it. Don't you trade places with me.
My ex had a way of sucking the life right out of me. So emotionally draining there would be times where I literally couldn't walk after a few of our arguements. Just physically could not walk I was so worn out.
The guilt trips...*sigh*
Don't play into it and don't get in too deep..I'm telling you...
U can't save me from anything. It is over. This is not advice hour. We are at the point of no return.
There are no games.
There's nothing left. All Im doing is having a healthy conversation with my dxp friends...kinda like a spinoff if u will.
You see how things truely are because you were truely not being you. I am. Why would I have to front on the internet? Its not a game...Im really as awesome as I seem.
After nearly 3 years of back and forth with my pisces man...I've officially unceremoniously broke up with him.
We had gotten back together after a hiatus (around say july ish...august ish) about 3 weeks ago. Then he got upset after seeing me in a club...watching 2 see who talks to me and vice versa...then after ignoring me (as in not conversing with me just slyly watching me) as he gets ready to leave he asks me to stand up and hug and kiss him!! I knew and he knew it was a ploy to ward off any guys that wanted to talk to me. Needless to say I didn't like this. We had just argued the night before so..this was yet another thing!
The night before, after I expressed my issues with our issue that night he says, "I guess I won't be talking to u for a few days"...I said "typical" and hung up in his face.