He says he loves me, but he has done somethings to hurt me, thought I understand why he did the things...it's my nature to distance myself from someone if they do as a means of self-protection and he senses this and is all of the sudden more attentive and affectionate, he went out of his way last week to hunt down a WII that I've been wanting and has been sold out in most stores...but last nite I was at his house and I just am not into him right now and left after only a few hours, I called to let him know I got home at his request and right afterwards he texted me a msg saying that"YOU'VE BEEN GONE ONLY 15 MINS AND I MISS U ALREADY, WHY IS THAT? I replied"I dunno you tell me" He replied I guess I kinda likes ya a lot...the day before I texted him just to say I love him and he replied...I luv you more! All of this is sweet and he has been sweet like this for the good part of our relationship(almost a year we started dating 9/07, he asked me to be exclusive 10/07) and he has told me many times before that he loved me.
We had problems the past few months and the sweetness was less frequent along with his interest in me.....though he would say things from time to time like "your the one".
I just don't know if he is just being like this because he senses the distancing or it is sincere...honestly, I'm at the point that I don't wanna talk it about, he did one major thing and several lil things that are annoying the hell of out me and I'm not sure at this point what it is I want(him or the relationship) but I've changed my focus from us to me.
lol well he doesn't look exactly like my pisces.the features look similar.he has a long face,defined chin and big watery eyes.... i mean if you read the description on how every sign looks like in astrology...then you'll know what i mean.i'm a cancer and normally they decrib us as having round faces,high cheek bones ,wide mouths....not all cancers look thesame but there do have some features that look oddly similar...you what i mean starfish—
THAT DOES MAKE SENSE AND I DO BELIEVE HE LOVES ME BUT THERE IS A BIG QUESTION OF LOYALTY AND LOYALTY IS BIG FOR ME AND I WOULD SAY MOST VIRGOS....HE HAS THIS HABIT OF BEING FLIRTATIOUS WITH HIS FEMALE FRIENDS IN WHICH 99% OF HIS FRIENDS ARE FEMALES AND THERE ARE TIMES HE CROSSES THE LINE...IT IS SEXUAL IN NATURE OR HE WILL START SPENDING ALOT OF TIME COMMUNICATING WITH THEM BY TEXT OR THE INTERNET AND BECOME NEGLIGENT OF ME...WHEN I'M AROUND HE AVOIDS THE COMPUTER OR HIS PHONE BUT I HAVE SEEN TEXT WHERE HE IS TELLING THEM THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL OR FLIRTING SEXUALLY WITH EXES OR OTHER WOMEN HE HAS MEET ON THE NET...ALSO HE LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS AND HIS REALLY CLOSE WITH HIS MOM, WHICH I APPRECIATE IN HIM AND I AM CLOSE WITH HER AS WELL BUT AS OF LATELY HE WANTS TO INCLUDE HER IN THINGS WE DO OR WILL TELL ME NO ABOUT DOING SOMETHING BUT THEN CHANGE HIS MIND IF HIS MOM BRINGS IT UP OR HE CAN INCLUDE HER IN SOMEWAY....FOR INSTANCE, I MENTIONED I WAS GOING TO START RIDING MY BIKE AND HE SAID HE WOULD GET ONE AS WELL, I ASKED HIM TO GO GET HIS BIKE SATURDAY AND HE SAID OH THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH...I GO TO SEE HIM YESTERDAY AND HE'S LIKE MY MOM WANTS TO RIDE BIKE'S AND WE ARE GOING THIS WEEKEND TO GET BIKE'S....HUH? WHAT IS THAT? THESE LIL THINGS ARE REALLY STARTING TO GET TO ME...I GIVE HIM MORE THAN ENOUGH SPACE AND I AM NOT A JEALOUS PERSON...FLIRTING IS NATURAL, I DO IT AS WELL BUT THERE SHOULD BE BOUNDARIES...FOR EVERYONE INCLUDING HIS MOM!! HIS LACK OF LOYALTY AT TIMES MAKE ME QUESTION HIS LOVE FOR ME, VIRGO'S HAVE TO BE THE ONE AND ONLY & I'M WILLING TO ERGO THE FLIRTING AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT TURN INTO SOMETHING MORE...HOW DO I GET THIS ACROSS ALONG WITH THE ISSUE OF TELLING ME NO ABOUT SOMETHING BUT CHANGING HIS MIND WHEN HIS MOM IS WILLING OR INCLUDED?
I was involved with a Pisces for 4 years, and yes, when I distanced, the clinginess got out of control, the over-reaching gestures to save us. He thought we were soul mates, the funny thing, is we're not. He also had internet affairs, and one real life one. I caught him in both, and never really forgave him (not that I had to!!). He had those heavy lids, long face, and the goatee too!!! WEIRD. He was and still is a severe Mama's Boy, which drove me completely crazy.
However, I know his love for me was genuine, but he didn't know how to SHOW it in anything other than gestures. He was not emotionally supportive of me, he was not there for me when I needed him to be, and he needed constant prodding, assurance, and lifting up. I was happy to give it, but when my turn came, nothing and nothing.
Only you know the answer, but I challenge you to look for substance in the gestures he's giving you. Of course he loves and cares for you, but is your relationship recipricol? It doesn't sound as though....
" .. THERE ARE TIMES HE CROSSES THE LINE...IT IS SEXUAL IN NATURE OR HE WILL START SPENDING ALOT OF TIME COMMUNICATING WITH THEM BY TEXT OR THE INTERNET AND BECOME NEGLIGENT OF ME..."
" .. I HAVE SEEN TEXT WHERE HE IS TELLING THEM THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL OR FLIRTING SEXUALLY WITH EXES OR OTHER WOMEN HE HAS MEET ON THE NET"
Walk away. To have love is a great thing .. to have to make someone love you is not a great thing. If this man is doing what you say, then this isn't worth figuring out what you need to do to make it so.
People would say such things as ... back off, and he will come running to you .. but, what's the point in playing games for attention, if this person doesn't really want to give you attention?
I QUESTION HIS SINCERITY AS WELL....I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT DUE TO THE VAGRANCIES OF THE PISCES CHARACTER THAT YOU DO FLIRT ALOT AND SOMETIMES CROSS BOUNDARIES, THE RISK IS EXCITING BUT YOU TAKE IT NO FURTHER, WHEN THE REALITY HITS, YOU BACK AWAY(ACTUAL AFFAIR) ALSO, YOU BECOME EASILY BORED WITH PREDICTABILITY..THOUGH I CRAVE STABILITY AS A VIRGO, I WILL FEEL THAT WAY SOMETIMES TOO...I LIKE TO TOSS THINGS UP,MAKE IT FRESH AGAIN,MAYBE I HAVE PISCES IN MY CHART...ANYBODY WILLING TO CHART ME OR US? I'M 9/2/70 12:03PM HE IS 2/25/1978 5:27 AM
SINCE I'VE FOCUSED ON ME MORE THINGS HAVE BEGUN TO TAKE A TURN BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE WE HAD PROBLEMS....I JUST FEEL THAT IS PART OF BEING WITH A PISCES...YOU HAVE TO BE HOT/COLD AND ONCE IN AWHILE LUKEWARM...
This all sounds so familiar to me .. and not just you, all of us.
What we want is ... the way we were. There is no "were" .. for "were" has passed. Once two people have struggled with relationship issues, there are only two outcomes ..
1. these two people grow together, bond closer as these struggles are overcome together .... which causes a solid foundation of trust in each other.
2. these two people tear apart, and use each other as the culprit of why a hurdle cannot be conquered ... mistrust of each other festers.
Look at how many times #2 has happened to people .... and the real issue at hand is overlooked, while a dispute revolves around why the other wasn't there for them? We see this all the time in people. Look at your case for example .... when you want to talk about money problems, or him not supporting you in the hospital ... his response to you is built around YOU PERSONALLY and starting in with him, fussing at him .. and NOT the issue at hand. We do this, as people, once #2 happens and we tear a part, rather than bond together.
Issues to work out is no longer revelant, nor gets any energy to sort out .. now, it's all about how fucked up the other is.
See?
If the focus is about the other being fucked up ... then #2 has happened instead of #1.
And you cannot go back to "the way we were" ... for this is how the relationship has evolved. Once this evolution has happened, your perspective of each other has changed ... your reality has changed.
There's no going back to what was before the two of you fell prey to #2, and used each other to tear each other apart when the chips fell, VirgoVixen.
I have to say I agree enthusiastically...we have evolved to what we are now which does feel like we are bonding closer and gaining an understanding of each other but there are still elements of the way we were that we are taking into the evolution of us...or the foundation of our relationship which was based on mutual and reciprocal feelings , though we still have issues, as all relationships that will need to be tended to in time and will hopefully be another growth process, I think the first year is a learning grounds for most relationships, as a person if you had not been in one in awhile you may still be learning to be in a relationship while maintaining self as well..it's is a process...your message is so true P-Angel....
It's going to depend on how much both of you value what you have ...
With my husband and myself, we value highly what we have .. and certainly, the road isn't always smooth, even after 26 years of marriage, we still find ourselves at a crossroad. We are able, and all people have to have the desire present to be able .. tap into each others strengths/weaknesses to pull us through together, instead of critisizing the other for not pulling through.
Like ... he can do what I can't, and I know it. I can do what he can't, and he knows it. So, instead of standing on a ground of defiance because I'm weaker than him, and he knows better ... instead, I depend on him, value him, for being able to do what I can't = trust.
That is the only ingrediant necessary, VirgoVixen .. trust.
Even if you don't understand, or can't see it for yourself, and visa-versa (he can't see it) ..... if you believe it's there, and you know it's worth to you .. then you'll have #1 as your outcome when life hands you lemonaides.
If you two believe in each other ... then embrace that, instead of fretting over what wasn't done and why. You two have to be able to look past the blocks in the road (such as you feeling like you don't get enough attention at certain times, and him feeling like you're too fussy) .... look past that >>>> what is there that is valuable in the long haul.
If you can see it, if he can .... and it's worthy .. then focus on progressing towards it to gain it, rather than degenerating by putting energy into what is blocking your path.
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