Letting go...

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Angel1177
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So I have been with my Virgo for over 2 years now...although I love him dearly...there are certain things that drive me crazy...which is normal, since no relationship is perfect...but I guess there is one in particular that makes it hard sometimes for me to envision a long-term future...this annoying double standard that he can approach me on any topic, and I am always willing to listen, comfort, or offer ideas...I can too approach him on anything, other than us...if I have questions, or an insecurity or worry, it's like walking on egg shells because you just never know what his reaction will be and it drives me absolutely insane...I have voiced it on several occasions and you can tell he feels bad but his initial reaction is to always got on the defense or upset...but yet he asks a thousand and one questions at all times...I told him that I was getting tired of this routine and that the one essential quality in any relationship for me is FREEDOM, freedom of expression, time...etc...in every aspect...I can tell the statement scared him because normally I fight him on it, lately I just retreat...and keep my thoughts to myself, not out of weakness out of plain being tired...and it is making me question my future...

well my question is, from time, I really can't get my mind off my Sag...it's hard because I don't know if I ever really have...we were together for 7 years and he was wonderful to me...he loved my strength and conviction, he encouraged me to speak where the Virgo encourages me to keep things to myself...

Do any of you find it hard to let go of the past...—?
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Angel .. I think it's perfectly normal to start thinking about a past relationship in which made you feel freer to be yourself, while living within one that feels binding to you. The only part I would question within myself is whether the ex is really someone I would want, as the person himself, or if it's just the object of the "freedom" that is the ultimate desire and this man represents it to you.

Sorry you are so unhappy in your partnership 😢 And I know exactly what you are talking about .. the Virgo will stiffle the imagination, smother the diversity, and move to full-stop with spontenuity .. to replace it with routine, reliability and mainly, productivity of the mind. However, what they fail to realize is that imagination and creativity within this hightened sense of freedom to thoughts outside the realm of structure is actually being productive for the Pisces.

Even with expression .. they will prompt you to do this, however, it has to stay within the box of what he can comprehend as relativity to how he percieves the terms of the union.

I know what you're saying .. it feels like you're feelings are chained up inside a padded cell and the only thing you're allowed to acknowledge is the sameness day in and day out .. it's disheartening because the Pisces thrives on envisioning all possibilities on how everything feels around them.
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Hi Angel1177,

I know when I dated a Virgo last year I found it quite frustrating (and I'm a Taurus and we're supposed to be great together). One minute he'd say he loved me, the next his emotional reactions to things were almost mechanical. It was incredibly frustrating. And I was guilty of looking back and thinking of past relationships that were 'better' so's to speak. I think part of it was rose-tinted though, cos the virgo was good in things that certain ex's were bad in and vice versa if that makes sense. But I've learnt which attributes are most important to me now in terms of relationships.

Sometimes it seems impossible to find all the attributes you crave in one man. Maybe this is why most relationships are transitory.
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Angel1177
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P-Angel you are pretty much on point about it all...Please don't get me wrong, he is amazing to me in many respects but in the communcation aspect which is so important to not only me, but in my opinion any relationship, I lack the freedom that makes me feel alive...there are times when he gets it, but other times it's an argument of which makes even less sense to me...how is it that an individual who loathes arguing, has so many qualities and attributes which lead to it...he argues with everyone and everything upsets him yet he wants to live in peace...does that make sense!!!

It's that this one aspect of his personality can outshine all his other wonderful ones...again no one is perfect but everyone should have the freedom to speak their mind in their relationship!

Sorry I am venting...

but please don't get me wrong I also love to speak my mind...and can be impulsive as well...so I have my quirks but with time have learned what is worth mentioning and what are minor bumps not worth acknowledging since none of us are perfect...

do I make sense?
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Vent away, no worries 🙂 .. I do about my Virgo all the time.

Though, there's no answer to make this problem get resolved .. maybe this will at least help you to understand (based off of my experience being a Pisces with a Virgo) .. we (Fish) speak freely as we think and in this thinking process, we touch verbally on every aspect that pops in our head as it pertains to possible solutions, reasons, motivations and to us, it's just a pondering and not really asking any questions that need to be answered. From the Virgo standpoint, since everything is based around "facts" .. only what is logical is allowed to be considered.

So, while you go through this process of asking the universe "why", which isn't even a question, rather a verbal observation/expression .. the Virgo will pick up on only what's practical and/or fact, and what is irrelevant to facts is considered "nonesense" .. this nonesense will be disputed for it holds no bearing in a reality based off of structured thoughts that exist inside the box.

My Virgo is like this all the time .. and it drives a Pisces NUTS !!!

Because we aren't looking for logical answers .. we HAVE to have the freedom to express verbally that is coming from a reality that considers all possibilities/scenerios/conclusions/motivations .. and there is NO definitive answer, in which the Virgo doesn't comprehend and will argue anything that seems unreal/illogical.

If there is a way to get him to understand, Angel, that you are NOT looking for him to answer your life for you, rather, accept that in order for you to exist, you MUST verbally express, even if it doesn't make sense within his perception of what is logical .. I don't know what that is. If you figure it out, please let me know. 🙂

These men are difficult for the female Piscean .. no doubt. It doesn't HAVE to make sense to him, it just has to be allowed without judgement or persecution .. I know exactly how you feel.