Need Advice, Scorpio man loves Pisces woman

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Hi everyone,
I am in need of some advice, yea, a Scorpio male asking for advice about love,,,,, well I am old enough to know that advice is a good thing if you are stuck with a problem so here goes,,,,

I am 47 Scorpio, consider myself the "Eagle version" but I do have all three " style s" of Scorpio in me, for those of you who don't know that Scorpio has actually three signs it is interesting reading, I recommend google searching it... but for now lets just go with the rest of the details,,

She is 32 Pisces, Beautiful, loving, tender, etc etc and I think she is a little bit of a magician as well or maybe a witch (in the good form) because she has this spell over me and I can't figure it out.

I mean I love her, deeply and I find myself making all sorts of "exceptions" to the rules of my normal behavior, exceptions that are making me seek this advice now.

SO here is the problem, I am a very loyal, honest, loving affectionate man, I devote myself to this relationship, I tell her frequently how much I admire, adore, cherish and respect her, I do everything in my power to give her the confidence she needs to know that I love her but I notice several problems arising that I am not sure how to deal with.

I believe a relationship is 50/50 or 100 / 100 no matter how you look at it, I think you should be able to expect the same in return for what you invest in a relationship, I think that a healthy relationship is give and take both sides being generally equal.

When we first started dating she spoiled me, took care of me and made sure I was content, I returned the same to her, I took her out to nice dinners, we went to the movies, we went dancing, mostly her choice of venue because I am pretty much happy as long as we are doing things together. But the thing I noticed is that she likes a lot of personal attention, I don't mind giving it to her but after hours spent taking care that she had a massage, with all the bells and whistles I end up with a bottle of cream in my hands and she is fast asleep... it doesn't stop there either, she likes for me to hold her in my arms, run my fingers through her hair, hold hands and generally spoil her, again I don't mind it because I like making her feel good, fact is I like all those things as well but she doesn't do anything like that for me.

I really could use some insight in how I can get her to treat me like I treat her—?
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Also, I forgot this part, I am having a real tough time getting her to show me that I am important to her, she swears her love to me, promises to try harder not to forget things but she just seems to me that what I want or need is not "that" important. Basically what she says and how she acts are two different things,, I am confused about everything and I think that because I love her I am permitting her to treat me poorly. I hope I am wrong......
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tears? Seriously, enough of the dramatics .....




Posted by Aviator

I tell her frequently how much I admire, adore, cherish and respect her, I do everything in my power to give her the confidence she needs to know that I love her






Just because you, the Scorpio, are enamored by dramatics, doesn't mean other people are .. you could stop trying so hard at convincing her she is admired .... simply because she breathes.
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This thread: https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/pisces-in-love-2586135/>https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/pisces/pisces-in-love-2586135/</a><BR>
Esp this part:
"You can be unforgiving too if your feelings are hurt. Your way, Pisces woman, of disconnecting from your companion is the antithesis of the crudely punishing ways of the Scorpio. You begin a process of very gradual but unmistakable and irreversible withdrawal. It is as if you are performing neuro-surgery. Since you do give yourself totally to your relationship, all those bonds connecting you to your partner are released one-by-one (not with a hammer and chisel, but as if dissolved), each cut providing you with a new facet or a new identity.


In time, when the process is over, you disconnect leaving behind a haunted soul. Your partner should think twice before hurting your feelings. If you were a good match, he will find it very difficult, if ever, to forget you... "


For me personally, this description of the "disconnect" is eerily accurate. If enough of the bonds are "dissolved".. the withdrawal is unmistakable, and I rarely do the things I used to do. If the bonds are dissolving, esp if because of some hurt you've inflicted, certain things you say or do that drive me insane and make me feel you don't really love me - but there are still enough bonds to hold me there (a Pisces isn't DONE until she's DONE).. yeah, it's like I'm in a "holding pattern".. just circling.. waiting to see if anything will change, if a miracle will appear.. I may or may not try to tell you, depending on the guy/situation.. but usually I HAVE discussed it with you before, I've TOLD you about these things that are eroding my tender feelings for you.. perhaps I even downplayed them a bit, dramatics aren't really my thing.. so maybe you missed the importance of it. But if a Pisces woman is MOVED enough to SAY something, LISTEN.. we don't do idle chit-chat, and what we MENTION actually affects us more deeply than you may realize.

Scorp, I don't know your history, but I can almost guarantee there is SOMETHING dissolving the bonds, something she's quietly mentioned and you missed the grave importance of it... and all the tender touches and massages and Scorpio in love histrionics won't FIX it.. you will have to STOP or CHANGE what you have/are doing that is breaking it down, that is making her feel unloved.

Or, option two: she's not TRULY in love with you (anymore?), but not DONE yet.
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Or maybe I'm projecting. I'll go ahead and be revealing..

The bonds are dissolving with my Libra. I actually ended our relationship in early March, thinking to hasten the bond-breaking. (It doesn't work.. though apart, we're still connected.. but they're snapping like piano wires.) So here I sit, one foot in and one foot out of the door.. ball's in his court.

We've had a certain discussion several times over the past two years, like deja vu. Perhaps I downplayed the importance of it, perhaps he missed how deeply he was wounding me with this, over and over. To me, it's really very simple.. I hate secrets and keeping things from me.. don't tell me your "little Libra lies" to try "protecting" me (you're actually trying to save your own ass, and I don't NEED the protection).. and learn the fine line between flirting (okay) and propositioning women (not okay).. to him, perhaps it's not so simple, or perhaps he CANNOT change those things. But this last time, he finally GETS how important it is to me, no soft Pisces Mercury murmur but an Aries Venus roar - and me breaking it off with him. Now he's scrambling to prove himself to me, bending over backwards.. but OH there's SO much damage done already.. I don't know if he can save this, as much as I want him to.

And that's fine - if he really can't or won't, I'll be fine (he'll be fucked).. like I said, the bonds are dissolving.. I'm in a holding pattern.. will he pull a miracle out of his ass, or will the last few threads holding us together simply vanish? With this emotional disconnect comes the withdrawal. I love him very much, have never loved another like this.. but I can't FEEL that love most days, I don't even cry at all now.. and his flowery words and caresses and attentions don't MOVE me like they once did.. and he said to me recently: Why don't you like me anymore, baby? Why do you always wear jammies to bed now? You used to kiss and cuddle and rub me, but you stopped. I can't remember the last time you said you loved me. Is there someone else?

No, you fool.. there's only you. But your recent attentions are not going to magically heal the wounds in a couple months, and it's going to take time to rebuild the bonds that vanished like smoke. I'm still here, you still have a chance.. but it's a slim one. So step up your game, buddy.. it's about to be called on account of rain.
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Oh, and one more thing, in case you were thinking of doing some over the top grand gesture to skip the agonizingly slow steps and hurry things along Scorp style .. (and I blame his Leo Venus for this fuckery!):

Last week, I posted as my FB status "It's like we're taking turns... Throwin' matches at a bridge that will not burn."

When he saw it after work that night, he texted me this, "I just saw your Facebook. You are going to be receiving a fresh pack of VERY wet matches any day now 😘"

Cool, right? Yeah, I smiled cuz if he's going to step up his efforts, that's a good thing. Then I found out a few days later that he's been looking... at engagement rings. (!!)

Oh no. No, no, no, NO. This is NOT the time to pop the question to me. It would be an absolute disaster. Oh God, I can see it... him trying to do this, thinking the ultimate bachelor (never been married) guy asking me to marry him would finally show me how serious he is about us... and I LOVE him, but I couldn't/wouldn't say yes right now.. I'd try to be gentle and diplomatic, try to not make a scene.. but he's never been good with rejection, it'll be so so so ugly. Cuz I'll say no. He could sky-write it, and I'll say no. He could take out a full page newspaper ad or a highway billboard sign.. and I'll still say no. Cuz I can't see myself married to him right now, too many bonds broken... not enough to leave yet.. but too many to take that step right now.

His Leo Venus is gonna fuck him right now, damn it. Shit. Hope his Virgo Moon keeps him in check on this, before it all blows up over an extremely premature and ill-timed romantic gesture.
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Posted by P-Angel
tears? Seriously, enough of the dramatics .....




Posted by Aviator

I tell her frequently how much I admire, adore, cherish and respect her, I do everything in my power to give her the confidence she needs to know that I love her






Just because you, the Scorpio, are enamored by dramatics, doesn't mean other people are .. you could stop trying so hard at convincing her she is admired .... simply because she breathes.
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That has been the most logical post I have read by you so far!

OP, you're trying way too hard -- when she is that much younger than you the relationship will be all about HER. She's clearly an attention wh0re and you're wrapped around her little finger.

"I don't mind giving it to her but after hours spent taking care that she had a massage, with all the bells and whistles I end up with a bottle of cream in my hands and she is fast asleep..."

LEAVE RIGHT NOW!