Venus in Aries — war not peace in love?

Planet of love in the sign of war??_.gotta love our luck riiiight? haha😛


Is it just me, or is it difficult to be happy with a submissive/passive person? Feels like shooting fish in a barrel. I want that person who challenges me, who pushes my buttons and makes me angry, and who isn't afraid to confront me and put me in my place — which wont happen lol. I just can't be content with calm and serenity, it's nice, but in the end will kill my soul and spirit. In other words - I would be bored to death.


Prob why I love Virgo, so feisty/annoying 😛 No one gets under my skin like them.

Posted by iceredrobot
Planet of love in the sign of war??_.gotta love our luck riiiight? haha😛


Is it just me, or is it difficult to be happy with a submissive/passive person? Feels like shooting fish in a barrel. I want that person who challenges me, who pushes my buttons and makes me angry, and who isn't afraid to confront me and put me in my place — which wont happen lol. I just can't be content with calm and serenity, it's nice, but in the end will kill my soul and spirit. In other words - I would be bored to death.


Prob why I love Virgo, so feisty/annoying 😛 No one gets under my skin like them.

Hmm... well for my part it's not so much that I want someone who will fight me,-though to some extent that can be fun too- I preffer a certain harmony with a partner but,I do appreciate an agressive spirit in that I??d rather have a "comrade in arms" who will fight alongside me... so yes, in a way, someone who is too passive just won't do.

Posted by XV2
Hmm... well for my part it's not so much that I want someone who will fight me,-though to some extent that can be fun too- I preffer a certain harmony with a partner but,I do appreciate an agressive spirit in that I??d rather have a "comrade in arms" who will fight alongside me... so yes, in a way, someone who is too passive just won't do.

Yes! You put it perfectly. I need that fire, that strong character, meek wont do at allll😄

Posted by aPiscesPrincess
I'm exactly like that. I *need* someone who challenges me, even though it's not always going to be the best relationship. I guess that's why I seem to be attracted to abusive types =/ I mean I hate guys who are abusive.. but I'm attracted to the strong personalities at first, the ones who challenge me, and who aren't afraid to put me in my place (which I know I need sometimes lol). But like you said, I won't allow them to push me around for long either. I like them to try though ;D

Ooooo!!😢 You attract angry people too? There's a thin line between aggressive and abusive, and some guys can't tell the difference. Is it wrong I'd still prefer angry over doormat eeek.

Yeah good luck pushing us about😛 and I saw the Rihanna video yesterday which got me to come here make this post. It really spoke to me.

Posted by PiscesPosterBoy
I need somebody who.. invigorates me. Keeps me interested.

Yes! something has to be there, some life behind their eyes, no one wants a relationship with a corpse😛 Can't remember who but someone here posted this great quote by Bruce Lee

—If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.??


I feel the same with people, like there has to be a constant change, constantly moving along a river rather than being static.

^messed that up, made it ugly


Because it's less fun dating a passive guy who refuses to confront me when I piss him off - applies to friends as well. Ugh I hate people like that. Either confront me when I mess up so we get it out the way or get over it. But carrying it around so they can enjoy playing the victim and demonising me? I have no time for that. A Virgo/Cap/Aries would never!

I had to spend most of Friday with people like this and I though "my God I'd hate to date you". The Pisces part of me wanted to indulge their crybaby-ness but the rest of me was all HELL NO!!

Why? Just means you give them a dose of reality. Whatever, it impresses me.

Okay, first of all this is a two way thing. I put guys in their place alllll the time. You'll never catch me in an apron bringing them their slippers. Second...if I was in a relationship with a guy who held my hand and was always nice I would be sick.

It's about finding my equal, not someone afraid of me😛

Also when Aries is in placements it is exciting to be challenged. Arguments, rough housing, sparring, etc. is not only mentally titillating but physically as well. Aries rather wants this scene:

Girl cuffing boy: Chase me.
Boy tackling girl and pinning her down: Gotcha, no matter how you squirm. Submit.
Girl: Never will I ( oh yes I will/am ) ..with sparks in her eyes.
Boy: I have you.
Girl: Not unless you claim and OWN this.

It's not violent as you would think. It's a power struggle and one must topple the other on occasion. Weights and balances with a healthy dose of respect. Now I am not Venus in Aries, I'd be a terror if I was with everything else in me, but this is what my Aries feels like to me. Like a Valkryie. And warriors don't strike tinder to flint with Bob Ross, yeh? 🙂

Afternoon ladies!😄

totally agree with you about needing that spark. I love pushing buttons then sitting back to monitor people's reaction (I sound like a damn Aqua) because anger brings out the true character of people. So if someone flips from Mary Poppins to Attila The Hun that's gonna raise a few question marks haha

Also chipping away the ego is important, it gets in-between two people and really ruins relationships. So you know what? I'm gonna knock that wall down, getting rid of all pretences so it's just me and you. No ego, no walls, no games. well... except for the one where I chase him down😛 I actually can't stand being chased, the Scorp/Pisces Moon/Scorp Venus guy was doing that, I had to put a stop it it...honey, you know what? NO! And the minute he stops calling me, I start obsessing cause I'm so used to him over at my house. Even mum was like "what happened to him?"

Posted by PurrrrHissss
I know exactly what you mean, Lena. I think it's a Venus in fire thing. I can NOT be with someone who bores me or just kisses my ass all day long. They need to think of themselves as being on the same level as me. Not above OR beneath me. I'd much rather argue sometimes than never argue in a relationship. That would just feel...unnatural and even creepy. Then again, I also have Moon/Mercury/Venus square Pluto, so that probably is a big part of it. 😛

I swear we are cut from the same cloth, must be our no-nonsense "unemotional" Moons😄 It doesn't feel right if everything is peaceful, almost insincere. And it's dangerous to keep thoughts and emotions hidden in order to not "ruin" a relationship, why do couples do that? by not confronting issues, it means they'll get bigger and bigger, and then neither has the courage to bring it up. Like a snowball effect. The relationship is left with smilies as it deteriorates.

yessss I love couples who aren't afraid to bicker, it's so cute! lol😛 Just shows they really care and aren't afraid to expose that part of themselves to each other. I love that—

"And it's dangerous to keep thoughts and emotions hidden in order to not "ruin" a relationship, why do couples do that? by not confronting issues, it means they'll get bigger and bigger, and then neither has the courage to bring it up. Like a snowball effect. The relationship is left with smilies as it deteriorates."

YES!!!! And for whatever reason I always get stuck with "denial" types that never want to deal with anything... I definitely think the faster you deal with grievances/issues, the better!

And once dealt with, it's finished. No need to re-live it. I don't know how many times I've had a 'WTF?' look on my face from something brought back up from ages ago. I thought this was sorted already..mental NEXT!
Double edged sword at times though. Perhaps I didn't explain that well enough last night. Fighting makes me sick, truly. A good rousing debate or trying to 'one up' someone ( and them one-upping me back ) is terrific. Bickering, disagreement, discussion..all fine. I might hack at this more later when I've got more caffeine in my blood.

Last time around she would say: "I won't even bother, you always win every argument." and she just gave up and wouldn't deal with anything anymore. Not that it really made any difference, because "winning" an argument did not necessarily mean any action was taken on her part to improve the issue in question.

Eh... figures I suppose... my Venus in Aries and Mars in Aries vs. her Venus in Pisces and Mars in Pisces.

It's not about *winning* though. It's about sorting through an issue to its completion. You can't avoid what's breathing in the corner or shoot it under a rug. It's still there. My Venus is in Pisces too, doesn't mean I won't stand up and give someone the ol' finger.

Posted by venusianbull
It's not about *winning* though. It's about sorting through an issue to its completion. You can't avoid what's breathing in the corner or shoot it under a rug. It's still there. My Venus is in Pisces too, doesn't mean I won't stand up and give someone the ol' finger.

No, I agree with that, which is why I enclosed it quotation marks, I don't think it's about "winning" per se, but, if that person or myself concluded the discussion with a solid argument on a certain issue with substance, weight and a reasonable balance, then some action should be taken to improve things... otherwise, what's the point of it all? If things just stay exactly the same then the whole philosophy about dealing with issues quickly so that they don't become bigger doesn't really work at all.

No, it does not. As a matter of fact if something isn't dealt with it lingers. I'd far prefer to deal with something miniscule before it grows into something out of control. I have been called rude or hurtful on occasion. In all honesty I'll own it. Not my intention though. The intention is to grub it out and leave it in the sunshine where it withers. Not to let it take root and send down offshoots 8', poisoning everything around it.

D'ya find Wasis there to be a loathing on some level for passivity? I do not mean gentle or good and for some reason people such as Gahndi or Mother Teresa popped up in my head. But for those that just sigh, roll over and take it, constantly. Inert vs. action.

Yeah, I'm all about that too. Fundamentally though, it's my fault. With my Venus in Aries I am really adept at rushing into relationships with the wrong people. So yes, of course I'm never going to find that same "will to resolve issues" with someone who isn't right for me to begin with.

I understand. That headlong rush and wanting forward motion based on immediate reaction. "Be having that yesterday" mentality.

There are always power struggles in relationships. Passive or in your face. There is no utopian place where reality doesn't exist.

I'm not out to argue with you over it. Fruitless in any event. Mountain against the breakfront of trees. But you see in Fires way of going about things sitting on things or stewing over them is unhealthy. You push it under the carpet it's still there. Meanwhile there is still an emotional tally sheet racking up until someone explodes. That's no good either. It's not balanced. Extreme highs, extreme lows when that's not what you're after.

Hmmm, and do I strive for conflict and confrontation? I do not. I don't care for upheavel. But problems must be dealt with. The sooner the better.

a 'good' relationship is a standard, hardly ever a reality.

individual people want different things, so when you meet up with someone who vibes with you, more power to ya! 😛

For heavens sakes man. You don't saunter into the room with a broadsword in one hand and a mace in the other. A constant power struggle would be beyond tiresome. It's more about going toe to toe with someone as an equal.

Posted by Nights22

Posted by venusianbull
For heavens sakes man. You don't saunter into the room with a broadsword in one hand and a mace in the other. A constant power struggle would be beyond tiresome. It's more about going toe to toe with someone as an equal.

Thats not what I mean. Read back some of the comments and you will see that power struggle seems to be taking the priority to solving the problem when it should def. be the other way around.

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But it doesn't thrive on that, it's a kickstart. I can debate this all afternoon if you like. Well for another hour and a half at least. 😄

LOL Nahh, I'll just pick back up where I left off. There's no malice or anger and I'm not trying to one up you. Just try and make you see. I promise I'll sleep if I do lose in any event. 😄

LOL Small 'victory' indeed when you suck the fun out of it being peaceful. Thank you for allowing it though. *sigh* Oh dear, and I did so want to go on and on with it.

I think when I was younger that may have been the case. Now I just want PEACE. Someone who can communicate well. Who is not afraid to wear their heart on their sleeve. Is that a tall order?

owww... interesting. My Aries Mars recently went head to head with an Aries Venus and boy o boy, i was much more combative in the exchange, though the 'spunk' was appreciated by the Aries Venus. I was hot, until i realized the root of my aggression and let it go. Do not, do not enjoy that rush of adrenaline like i used to when i was younger. I'm more into peace and tranquility myself now a days

However, i do have to say that fire does push me to get to that root problem... and quickly. I hate to stew in my anger juices for too long, it's just not worth it to lose a few hours off my life for something like that. Now I have to work on getting to the root without the combative stance. Always something to be striving for...

Don't hold your breath. Ha! I'm not asking for trailblazer, but holy hells I'll be fooked if I sit around joined hands singing "Kumbaya" and spoon feeding someone hummus with rosebuds in my hair. Many apologies to the HIA approach but constant peace and serenity does not exist in day to day life ( unless you're a wake and bake and stay fried all day and night ) and it sure as hell doesn't exist in a relationship 24/7 round the clock.

Posted by venusianbull
Don't hold your breath. Ha! I'm not asking for trailblazer, but holy hells I'll be fooked if I sit around joined hands singing "Kumbaya" and spoon feeding someone hummus with rosebuds in my hair. Many apologies to the HIA approach but constant peace and serenity does not exist in day to day life ( unless you're a wake and bake and stay fried all day and night ) and it sure as hell doesn't exist in a relationship 24/7 round the clock.

This may be more of a Taurus thing than a Aries thing...

I know 4 Taureans including my son. All of them like to get angry! and when they're mad they sure do like to spread it around. If a Bull is pissed... everyone in the vicinity will know it.

Posted by Nights22
Thats not the point VB. See this is why I dont condone marriage. You were married and That is why think all relations are unstable! hehe No but seriously there should be way more peace in a relationship than hot headed arguments. If its the other way around it shouldnt last long. And probably wont last long and if it does last long it will probably end up like this

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2011/10/11/murder-charge-filed-against-bonney-lake-man-accused-of-killing-girlfriend/<BR>
or

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11277/1179543-55.stm<BR>
or

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/strangler_is_guilty_of_girlfriend_s_murder_1_3885139<BR>
But go ahead and look for a volatile person instead of a down to earth one.

Blearrrrgh. My goodness I can't stand to argue. It knots up my guts and makes me want to throw up. I am a peacemaker a soother. I do not now, nor have I ever liked to engage in full on war. If I'm not down to earth about most or all of myself then someone does not see me at all. Someone passionate does not = unhinged.

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Posted by venusianbull
Don't hold your breath. Ha! I'm not asking for trailblazer, but holy hells I'll be fooked if I sit around joined hands singing "Kumbaya" and spoon feeding someone hummus with rosebuds in my hair. Many apologies to the HIA approach but constant peace and serenity does not exist in day to day life ( unless you're a wake and bake and stay fried all day and night ) and it sure as hell doesn't exist in a relationship 24/7 round the clock.

This may be more of a Taurus thing than a Aries thing...

I know 4 Taureans including my son. All of them like to get angry! and when they're mad they sure do like to spread it around. If a Bull is pissed... everyone in the vicinity will know it.

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I do not like to be or get angry. I'm an ugly, hateful person when I am. I will reduce someone to shreds. I ice over, lock down and that's it. If I am making noise, you're fine. When I'm silent, that's when you need to tread very, very carefully.

But I'm not arguing. Wait..am I? No, doesn't feel like arguing. *sigh* Volatile stinks. Tippy-toeing on eggshells wondering and waiting for someone to erupt like Mt. Vesuvius. Feeling everything slithering under the surface like an inky oiled beast. No thanks, had 13 years of it.

I would not. A normal man with normal anger over issues. One who is not afraid to call me on my nonsense. Someone to talk too with no fear. Someone who commands my respect and his respect for me is fully intact. Someone who enjoys my being, my intelligence. Someone who has a deep love of pie. Someone who would like nothing better than to snuggle under blankets with me on the couch while the rain patters down. Someone who digs music and likes my brown eyes. Someone who fully appreciates my short ass and my fire. Someone who simply loves me for myself. That sounds about all of wonderful to me.

Did I mention..someone who can make me laugh? Please Lord. Amen.

Judge and Jury, we can reach no further conclusion than this. This woman, is a romantic of the highest order and she must be stopped. For despite her Aries Fire and her Taurean sense, she still holds within her the heart of Pisces.

Posted by venusianbull
I would not. A normal man with normal anger over issues.

That sounds nice 🙂 Throw in a little nutty, just for spice...

LOL Oh aye. Warped sense of humor/filthy mind a plus. 🙂

For that sake I have Venus in Aries (also Moon and Mecury).

Any questions? lol

btw any Aries Venus folk fall in and out of love in a nano-second? What is up with that?!!! >😢 It seems every 5mins I meet my soul-mate then BOOOOOOOM! it's "what's his name again—"

^ I meant PB's icon!


Speaking of Venus infatuation, I was hanging around my cousin's Virgo friend, he's loooovely😄😄 He has Aqua Moon, Leo Venus and Gem Mars. Apart from Pluto he has no water in his chart X__X i think i'm in love

😛

Venus in Aries = possibly the worst placement ever?

I'd swap it in a heartbeat, that and my Gemini moon. Both suck fucking ass.

V in A makes me impatient in getting what I want. Eh I want it fucking NOW thank you and I will fight to the death until I get it. The problem is that when I do get it the rest of me is like eh WTF was I thinking I don't want this shit or hello shiny new object and goodbye object I thought I wanted but clearly did not as I just tossed it aside like an old shoe the minute I actually got it.

*sigh*

It's hard working out what it is I really DO want as opposed to what is a fleeting fancy.

lol I want to frame your post, this is exactly how I feel. Venus Aries is in detriment for a bloody good reason!

Lol it's torture eh!

I wouldn't mind normally except that it's caused me to waste time longing for certain things I never even wanted in the first place but because it appears as though I can't have said thing I end up on some mad mission where I NEED to have it, despite the fact I don't even want it.

The problem is that I only ever realise AFTER the fact that I didn't want it.

It's the one placement I have that even though being aware of it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. It's almost too compulsive a quality to be controlled. I'm trying though.

With god as my witness I will beat this terrible affliction. 🙂

Amen!! xD

Ah ..my good ol Venus in Aries,the thrill of the hunt,living and loving in the moment and lots of playtime🙂

..been keeping it in check alot better with age,I dont rush in as much..alot more patient these days

I've made a rule of putting guys on ice for 2-3 weeks, then I'll check if my feeling are the same. Easier said than done sometimes 😕