Why women need men?

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I think this special someone has nothing to do with female nature. Society loads lots of BS into female brain. Such as, prince on horse with shining armor etc. And since women do not know what this BS is all about, they are simply confused with their expectations. When reality hits their head and tells them that what they expect is fairy tale, they just complain. Women are confused people.
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I have been single for a really long time and aside from the physical aspect of the man/woman relationship, (which I definitely need) what i really miss is just conversing with a man...I miss the man's point of view..being surrounded by women and only talking to women can get crazy after awhile...when I do talk to a man when i am out socially, or whatever I realize how much i miss having a man in my life just to converse with.
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hmmm i love their strong bodies and their rough stubble and their unshaven legs and their shaggy hair style s and the way they can pick you up like your a feather
the way that they can look at you like your the only one and sum how make your heart runn
how they curl into your bodies and make you feel like a fire could break out and you would be protected that feelin you get wen u wake up in the mornin feel them breathin while his arms are still around you and get that rush of omigosh i appreciate so much that iv lived to see thiz moment
that they can say cum on misty shut up and just do it stop thinkin bout it. that their so passionate about their video games and get excited wen they kill the evil guy wen they carelessly shove their clothes on the ground an jus dont care coz they got stuff to do
the way tht they jus care bout doin the simple things an get enjoyment out of it becoz of their philosphy tht they can always do it 2moro wen they can surf today an that because of all this it makes it mean so much more wen he does the little things like sweepin the hair out of your face or makin sure ur sunblocked or puttin more clothes on u so another guy doesnt get to see you

sum of them are really beautiful well thiz is why i love men
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"How do you understand that you met that "special" guy?" My wonderful Dad's wife who I might add over the years has developed much wisdom - her reply to your question Haffo would be - When you are old enough. 😉

What she means by this is...it is so important to allow yourself to have relationships- to open yourself up to them, to experience them fully because in doing so, you are able to find out more about yourself - your likes and dislikes which may also change over time.

Your views on relationships at 20 will soon change in your 30's and again in your 40's. As you experience, you learn. Keep your mind open - do NOT bring past relationships into your new ones (learn to "let go") see each person with new eyes and allow for their uniquess to bloom - enjoy moments with them. Learn to trust life knowing that each moment is where you need to be - find the good. Laugh!

When you begin to understand yourself, you will also understand others and accept them for who they are.

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Initially, I thought Haffo's question could be taken as a compliment, that we don't really need men. Technically, in today's world as women have careers and can raise a child on their own, the "use" for men as we knew it is changing and becoming a choice.

Even the whole rant on "we all need someone" or "companionship" all that is changing. I'm not sure what I want because I'm afraid of comprimising too much as all women before me did, and of course I'm afraid of being lonely too.

So Haffo I think the reason why the answer is not easy is due to the changing gender dynamics after the feminist movement and finally, the 21st Century.

Why do I "need" men (and yes, on a primal level we all NEED each other, no need for denial)——?? Trying to think. I'm 26 now and closer to the 30-age chunk. I'm experienced enough to know there is no knight or whatever. We're set up as little girls when our moms read us those fairy tales. Fairy tales are sociologically problematic. They need to be updated! So yeah, why?

[I'll first lay out the answer I hate the most, and I'll strangle any girl who says this:
"TO FEEL COMPLETE". No $ hit? You were incomplete before you met him? No guy ever talks about how incomplete he felt before he met someone. They just are happy if they're lucky enough to fall in love. But none of this "He makes me feel complete" BS.]

Ok--why?
-Like the girls above said, I love a male's perspective occasionally. So that.
-Along with that, a good mental challenge can be a turn on. So someone who will challenge me but also willing to stick around, which will be due to certain benefits such as sex, would be a guy.
-Sex; ie. for a woman: to feel desired, to feel like the only one, to feel special and worshipped. ALL WOMEN LOVE THIS feeling and look for it.
-Sex for the sake of sex
-To connect; women like to connect and they love feeling connected to a man, to feel they have importance and impact in their man's lives. (I imagine vice versa) I like feeling connected, it keeps us alive. As Susan Sarandon said in "Shall we Dance?", we need witnesses to our lives, which could be the point of marriage. I thought that was beautiful.

Overall though, I'm a little jaded, people...At least now. The truth is we need each other and that won't ever change. Read some Khalil Gibran for that (The Prophet). Apart from gender, people need people.
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" -Like the girls above said, I love a male's perspective occasionally. So that."

You need male perspective to understand another male? If male wont exist, you will not need male perspective then. Other than that, perspectives about life is not gender based. Everyone who knows the truth is capable of giving right perspective. So, men are not useful in that department.

"-Along with that, a good mental challenge can be a turn on. So someone who will challenge me but also willing to stick around, which will be due to certain benefits such as sex, would be a guy."

Mental challange = permit for sex? Interesting. Why dont this work against females then? I think mental challange and sex are different things. They can't be turn on for sex. However, it depends on what kind of mental challnage you are talking about. Sexual mental challange? If that, then this is part of sex. Not something independant.

"-Sex; ie. for a woman: to feel desired, to feel like the only one, to feel special and worshipped. ALL WOMEN LOVE THIS feeling and look for it."

I think this has nothing to do with female nature. Woman always feel themselves inferior to man. This way of feeling need is just satisfying their inferiority complex. Therefore, if men wont exist then no inferiority feelings would exist, and no need of such things from men will be needed. Again, men are useless in that department.

" -Sex for the sake of sex"

As I said before, the real reason for what women need men is just that. Sex. And kids, for now.

"-To connect; women like to connect and they love feeling connected to a man, to feel they have importance and impact in their man's lives. (I imagine vice versa) I like feeling connected, it keeps us alive. As Susan Sarandon said in "Shall we Dance?", we need witnesses to our lives, which could be the point of marriage. I thought that was beautiful."

Same, satisfaction of inferiority feeling.


In overall, women need men just for sex and kids (for now). That is what I already explained before. It just been repeated.

I wonder, if women would understand the underlying reason why they want men and also understand that they need men for men, would they still want them?

I say no...
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Despite whatever someone says about what a woman needs or wants... or even what man a man needs or wants- it's undenyable that men and women are different- and we balance each other--- we compliment each other.... a species progresses when the male and female parts work together... unless you're an atom or an amoeba...

So, just like light needs dark.. male needs female to procreate, progress and survive.

..it's about a natural balance.
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Onefineaquaris~ I agree I dont need a man, I also just like having one every girl needs a good toy LOL just kidding guys ...... Misty made some great points and we all men or women want someone to share our life, dreams, even our pain with. I have finally found someone who makes me feel wonderful, He makes me his world, everything he does is not without thought of me first. I treat him the same way, he said he has never felt like this in his life. As freebird said at 20 you feel one way but in years to come u will feel so different about what you are looking for or want. Men try to make it seem women are looking for someone to take care of them what's wrong with taking care of each other, feeling safe and protected and knowing you are loved so strongly by another should be a wonderful feeling for all of us.

I just want happiness in my life and my bf said now is your 2nd half of your life and it's going to be wonderful. I hope so 🙂
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Each and everybody is an individual. We shouldn?t classified women in one group or men in another. There are always exceptions to the rules.

The problem does not stem from the other person behaviors, interaction, actions, or motivations, etc?. The problem is you, yourself, and your internal-self. When people enter a relationship they say to themselves, ?If he or she could just change one thing?.everything would be fine!? That is never the case, because you can never change people, but you can change how other treat you. If you don?t like a situation, you have the choice to pull yourself out of it. If you don?t like the way someone is treating, you have the choice to stand up for yourself and say, ?I am nothing going to stand here and be treated this way!? ?You are your own best friend and you are your own worst enemy.? How are you going to take care of the most important person??.you?
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haff hun wuldnt u feel used if i said to u that i jus wantd a relationship wit you jus 4 sex and to hav kids... i men solely isnt that wat ur tryin to say... that i jus need you 4 that... well personally as a man dont u feel used??

does that mean u see no point in relationships??

also babe i think there are differneces that do enable a man to be able to have a sex without emotions but generally speakin woman are more inclined to adopt them (sorry to those who can hav friends with benefits and not worry i jus know i cant hahaha culd b the whole water thing makes me more emotional=more likely to bcum involved)

but that doesnt mean men are more instinctive... i know my sex drive culd put a mans to shame n e day! LOL daym tht whole scorpio sun venus mercury... but wat im tryin to say is that even though itz promoted and we are all brought up on the notion that men do want sex more... it doesnt mean itz true.... i jus think the whole concept of them being able to have sex without emotions may make it seem more accessible to them and generally speakin society has made it more relaxed on a man to be able to admit he enjoys sex though i know wen woman admit itz more uncommon... whether we dont promote it more or not... i jus really wanted to say i enjoy sex a helluva lot n yeaa!!! power to the ppl that do!!! hahaha id put u men to shame.... hahaha c/ocky scorpio talkn... lol sorry


hehe bettergo jump that taurus...
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Branh,

Are you saying men don't need women's emotional support, starting from their moms and later as girlfriends/wives? I think you're being unfair--I know a lot of great, sweet girlfriends who are extremely supportive of their guy's goals etc.

I agree with a lot of your points, although I wish they weren't true! I can totally see a lot of women being high maintenance. I guess we're also SOCIALIZED a certain way, you know? We're supposed to "get/find a man", manipulate, etc. I disagree with the concepts but also suffer from being "just myself" most of the time.

What's the alternative, Branh? What are women supposed to do? First of all you need to acknowledge that women support men just as much, if the man allows them to. (some won't--the male ego thing.) And most of the time, if women don't act like b i t c h e s, we're socialized/taught that the man won't know our worth. I have unfortunately seen examples. We also observe women around us treating men like crap and the men being in love with these women...

So I don't think it's as simple as you stated. Women don't want to be drama makers, believe me. But I wish we could all change our social conditionings and gender-role restrictions. That would be revolution!
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Pondering thoughts for Sat. morning.....while we are here on Earth, all of us are at some point going to be involved in a relationship (any type - any kind). My definition of relationship is when two people come together to communicate - engaging with one another. Who says relationships are easy? Who says they are hard? The answer - our thoughts. What IF>>>>>> instead of looking for the bad in a relationship that we choose to find the good in it? What has it taught us about ourself? Imagine if we took this approach in life - we would then not have any "bad" relationships but instead - "learning opportunities" 🙂 Our lives would be so much happier and filled with more joy! To each other we are truly teachers and students with only gifts to share. It is all how to you choose to "see" it.

Now, this morning - I realized that I needed a man for changing the oil in my car. Thank goodness he lives right down the street from me - he has been the ONLY man to ever work on my car 😉

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The answer is quite simple actually...I can already see the future...the male of the species is doomed.One oxford prof.called skyes has this theory that the male of the species would only last for another 5000 generations before dwindling fertility and a decrepit Y-chromosome consigned him to the history books along with neanderthals and trilobites? The Y-chromosome, which carries the genetic switch to turn babies into boys at six weeks of gestation, is doomed, Professor Sykes argues. ?The Y chromosome is a genetic ruin, littered with molecular wreckage? a graveyard of rotting genes,? he writes. ?It is a dying chromosome and one day it will become extinct.?...

so Haffokins you see you were right...you are part of a dying species...blame mother nature...women are here to stay, so naturally we have to be self sufficient.I'm just glad that this will not happen in my life time...I LOVE men despite them having those weak mutant Y chromosomes. 😛


Seriously though,Haffo,I hope you won't mind me saying this but the whole idea seems kinda silly to me.The arguement can go both ways...one can as easily argue that men don't actually need women except maybe for reproduction.It kinda reminds me of that movie "The stepford wives" based in Ira Levin's novel where all the husbands conspire with scientists and replace their wives with andriod look alikes who are just perfect.The funny thing is all the husbands seem quite content to live with these vapid machines instead of flesh and blood women. Scary thought ladies, eh?

My question is, if it is scientifically possible, do you think most men would choose to live with andriods rather than flesh and blood women? I don't think so...


or are you competing for most posts again the scorpio thread?
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When is it going to end?
and thoughts?
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People...Yesterday (Oct 26) was my birthday...

I really am ok being single, really. But the Pisces was at the party too, and didn't even bring me a card, a flower or anything. I was hosting the party and cooked. Isn't it rude to come empty-handed
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What ethnicity are you?
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