So this was the change he was blabbing on about. The black racist militant agenda.
Obama the Racist
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amen...
Hmmm, flip black with white. Btw, the KKK preach the same, they're only interested in promoting white pride....
I would be just as outraged by the venom spewed by a white person, as should anyone who claim to be against racism. And it's been proven, Obama knew of his good friend Rev. Wright's opinions as he stated in his book. So he was aware unlike now where he says he wasn't. Which is it? He's another politician just looking for power. He'll say, do anything for it. Plus, Obama says he would've left the church but, aw shucks, the Rev retired so....
BS!
BS!
"We don't know what he has been through or what he has witnessed to bring about such hate speech, but it is probably based on some pretty bad experiences."
White guilt of the most pretentious, cloying, groveling, self-loathing degree.
White guilt of the most pretentious, cloying, groveling, self-loathing degree.
So you're empathizing with the Rev while Obama is saying the Rev is wrong. Obama said he does not agree with the Rev's statements but you do. Obama agrees with me but you don't even though you are for him. Strange, isn't it?

I'd like to know the answer to that question...
The answer is clear for any thinking human being. Obama stayed with the church for 20 years and considered Rev. Wright as a friend and mentor. It's obvious he shares his views but he chooses to lie to get into office. He's a liar and a racist.
"So you're empathizing with the Rev while Obama is saying the Rev is wrong."
NO. Not really...."
So you don't mean what you said before? You lied too? No wonder you love Obama so much.
"I just wanted you to admit this"
I knew you'd point out Obama's hypocrisy and total lack of character. Thanks!
NO. Not really...."
So you don't mean what you said before? You lied too? No wonder you love Obama so much.
"I just wanted you to admit this"
I knew you'd point out Obama's hypocrisy and total lack of character. Thanks!

obama is not racist. people will look for any reason to tear someone down if they disagree with what they stand for.

the answer is he has no foreign policy experience, none
he is about as qualified to be president as Oprah Winfrey.
Empty suit
and..
That's a weak argument.
Let me correct this, he has no ? RAPE THE OTHER COUNTRIES?policy experience. That's the ?foreign policy? to the Americans.
The only conscious US president after the Second World War and aware of the real ?domestic and foreign policies? was Dwight D. Eisenhower, the rest are bunch of son of a whores, puppet of the corporations and contractors.
Now, I am not for or against B.Obama but what the hell, A nation that gave this piece of shit GWB an opportunity to destroy the America are getting conscious about the next one?
Narrow versioned, stereotyped, blind as bat may call him RACIST? for the rest, give the man a chance to prove himself, what worse can he do? US is already in deep shit!
he is about as qualified to be president as Oprah Winfrey.
Empty suit
and..
That's a weak argument.
Let me correct this, he has no ? RAPE THE OTHER COUNTRIES?policy experience. That's the ?foreign policy? to the Americans.
The only conscious US president after the Second World War and aware of the real ?domestic and foreign policies? was Dwight D. Eisenhower, the rest are bunch of son of a whores, puppet of the corporations and contractors.
Now, I am not for or against B.Obama but what the hell, A nation that gave this piece of shit GWB an opportunity to destroy the America are getting conscious about the next one?
Narrow versioned, stereotyped, blind as bat may call him RACIST? for the rest, give the man a chance to prove himself, what worse can he do? US is already in deep shit!
"But calling him a racist is simply not true, as I have proven and you have now admitted, so YOU sir are the liar."
You have not disproved anything for all of the facts I have stated, you never countered them with differing facts. I proved (as did you) that Obama is a liar regarding his racist views. Why should he lie? Because he's running for president and to be a racist and associate with racists (Rev. Wright , by the way, where is he?) is not conducive to winning.
The only thing anyone who is still for Obama after Rev. Wright's association with Obama has come into the light has proved is that you are willing to overlook his racism for his extreme liberal agenda. Just ask yourself one thing, if he was white and he was associated with a white preacher who preached blacks did all the things the Rev accused whites of, would he still even be candidate? You know the answer is no. His political career would be over. Obama probably drops to his knees every night thanking God for white guilt.
You have not disproved anything for all of the facts I have stated, you never countered them with differing facts. I proved (as did you) that Obama is a liar regarding his racist views. Why should he lie? Because he's running for president and to be a racist and associate with racists (Rev. Wright , by the way, where is he?) is not conducive to winning.
The only thing anyone who is still for Obama after Rev. Wright's association with Obama has come into the light has proved is that you are willing to overlook his racism for his extreme liberal agenda. Just ask yourself one thing, if he was white and he was associated with a white preacher who preached blacks did all the things the Rev accused whites of, would he still even be candidate? You know the answer is no. His political career would be over. Obama probably drops to his knees every night thanking God for white guilt.

You have to listen to the entire speech, not a snippet.

Sorry I'm late.
For the record, PFE single-handedly kicked you guys' asses. That was some hard core debating.
For the record, PFE single-handedly kicked you guys' asses. That was some hard core debating.

The Reverend's

""then again didnt know I was debating her""
i don't recall naming anyone in particular. 🙂
i don't recall naming anyone in particular. 🙂

No, it wasn't that bad.
I listened to about a half hour's worth. I'd like to finish. From what I know, he was targeting a specific individual. I don't like making presuppositions based on face value alone, expecially when its taken out of its original context. 😢
I listened to about a half hour's worth. I'd like to finish. From what I know, he was targeting a specific individual. I don't like making presuppositions based on face value alone, expecially when its taken out of its original context. 😢
PFE said,
"Since you are slow to comprehend, I will show you exactly where you shot yourself in the foot. AgainYOUR WORDS:
"Obama said he does not agree with the Rev's statements"
BUT, he remained friends with the Rev and considered him to be a mentor. Only until he decided to run for President did he ask the Rev to get out of his life. Only a fool would believe that Obama didn't know or believe what the Rev. has said was true since he did quote part of one of his many controversial quotes in his book.
PFE quote: "AND
"Obama agrees with me (Aquaduck)
So, use your critical thinking skills to draw a conclusion. You are calling Obama a racist AND you are saying that you agree with him."
You're not reading what I wrote, that Obama is running for power and is lying about his associations which is what this whole thread is about. There's is no disputing the facts. There is no debate on simple facts unless you are an idiot. You can ignore what I say in this thread and take things out of context, but any thinking individual cannot help to see the facts.
" This would mean that you TOO are a racist black man hating on poor little whitey. Shame on you Racistduck. Shame on you. You are either a racist black man, or you make one retarded argument."
You are pathetic and silly. Stick your head in the sand and vote for the racist moron. I know you will no matter what any one says. I've made my point and it's clear to any one who takes the time to read.
"Since you are slow to comprehend, I will show you exactly where you shot yourself in the foot. AgainYOUR WORDS:
"Obama said he does not agree with the Rev's statements"
BUT, he remained friends with the Rev and considered him to be a mentor. Only until he decided to run for President did he ask the Rev to get out of his life. Only a fool would believe that Obama didn't know or believe what the Rev. has said was true since he did quote part of one of his many controversial quotes in his book.
PFE quote: "AND
"Obama agrees with me (Aquaduck)
So, use your critical thinking skills to draw a conclusion. You are calling Obama a racist AND you are saying that you agree with him."
You're not reading what I wrote, that Obama is running for power and is lying about his associations which is what this whole thread is about. There's is no disputing the facts. There is no debate on simple facts unless you are an idiot. You can ignore what I say in this thread and take things out of context, but any thinking individual cannot help to see the facts.
" This would mean that you TOO are a racist black man hating on poor little whitey. Shame on you Racistduck. Shame on you. You are either a racist black man, or you make one retarded argument."
You are pathetic and silly. Stick your head in the sand and vote for the racist moron. I know you will no matter what any one says. I've made my point and it's clear to any one who takes the time to read.
The only thing anyone who is still for Obama after Rev. Wright's association with Obama has come into the light has proved is that you are willing to overlook his racism for his and YOUR extreme liberal agenda.

wha...? my "agenda" is far from "extremely liberal". hahhaha...sorry, i have to laugh at that.
how long can people deny that america is turning into a shithole? OBVIOUSLY the current policies = ffffffaaaaaaaiiiiillllll. now what do we normally do when we see that something isn't working? change it up; try something new! (unless you are insane, and hope to achieve a different result by using the same methods over and over again.) obama is new - extreme, ehhh...don't know about that one - and he is worth a try.
i completely agree w/you, p-f e. you can practically sense this ducky here looking over its soulder for the nasty libs to come get 'em.
how long can people deny that america is turning into a shithole? OBVIOUSLY the current policies = ffffffaaaaaaaiiiiillllll. now what do we normally do when we see that something isn't working? change it up; try something new! (unless you are insane, and hope to achieve a different result by using the same methods over and over again.) obama is new - extreme, ehhh...don't know about that one - and he is worth a try.
i completely agree w/you, p-f e. you can practically sense this ducky here looking over its soulder for the nasty libs to come get 'em.

hehe...and how much obama doesn't punish his white half.

i think it's funny how this strange anatidae keeps repeating that, "any thinking human being will draw the same conclusion i have" (or something along those lines). actually, any thinking human being may form a number of conclusions based on the information that you've presented.
people cling so hard to the status quo. what, exactly, is wrong with equality?
people cling so hard to the status quo. what, exactly, is wrong with equality?

as p-f e so eloquently stated earlier, if you fear that concept, then you are the true supremacist.
Keep sticking your heads in the sand. McCain will win anyway regardless of the dem nominee. Thanks and play again in four years!
This is exactly why Bush Jr. was able to serve TWO terms as president, because of ignorant people like Aqua_Duck who hang on to every word of the propaganda machine known as the news media. WAKE UP! So, let me get this straight. Barack Obama is a racist because he attended Jeremiah Wright's church and listened to his sermons for 20 years, and he agrees with everything Wright says and does, that's what you're saying? Well, what about the people who consider themselves devout Catholics and still attend mass even though the Catholic church has a history of trying to cover up the SEXUAL ABUSE of CHILDREN. Does this mean that every person who considers themselves Catholic and has remained a catholic for decades is a child molestor or that they agree with child molestation? Hmmm....I guess so according to your 'logic'.
*molester-typ

yeah, looks like we're still a few years off from that.

Why do people act like Presidents actually run the country singlehandedly? They don't call shots, they are puppets. It's their job to either get the praise or take the fall.
Why don't you dumbasses actually go back and listen to Wright's speech in its entirety before jumping to silly conclusions. Furthermore, why the hell should Obama be accountable for someone else's words? It's called grasping at straws. Grant it, this pastor is beginning to annoy me. But, why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact that the Clintons actually welcomed this Reverend Wright into their home, years before Obama became a household name?
Having said that, this battle of the pastors is irrelevant.
More importantly, anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a slave. Remove those shackles, guys. 🙂 w00t!
Why don't you dumbasses actually go back and listen to Wright's speech in its entirety before jumping to silly conclusions. Furthermore, why the hell should Obama be accountable for someone else's words? It's called grasping at straws. Grant it, this pastor is beginning to annoy me. But, why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact that the Clintons actually welcomed this Reverend Wright into their home, years before Obama became a household name?
Having said that, this battle of the pastors is irrelevant.
More importantly, anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a slave. Remove those shackles, guys. 🙂 w00t!
umm we need to update this debate...
it was getting good...
it was getting good...

Obama has zero chance of being president without Florida, Michigan, PA, and OH
That's total bull-shit 🙂 So you mean to tell me that the "other" states don't matter — Hahaha, it's just like when Hillary and McCain started saying his words didn't matter.
It's refreshing how those who oppose Mr. Barack Obama have extremely nit-picky reasons why he should be president.
Seriously (by the way, I know my presidental history 😉) he has had to work the hardest out of nearly any candidate to ever run for president -- there's only been two others that have worked just as hard. However, what's makes this situation different is the media outlets -- which were fewer in the past. This hasn't been a 'cake-walk' for him at all, the only reason he gets postive media coverage is because most of "my" generation wouldn't see it any other way LOL!!!
Many reporters know what he is up against along with some GenXers and Baby Boomers. There are many questionable things about Clinton and McCain that came about, BUT if some tiny little aspect about Mr.Obama comes around -- even if didn't say those things -- it's an instant smear. People are just not use to something different. LOL, it's very amusing how sooooo many Americans are afraid of an Obama presidency but they were confrontable with Reagan, Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, and W. Bush (for crying out sideways). I guess the only thing that matters to people is familiarity 😉
I don't have time to debate this because I'm working but I will say this:
I'm ready to believe
No more people who deceive
It's his time to take the stage
It's our time to turn the page
I don't want to be feeling sad
I don't want to be feeling bad
Give us one good man
Who says yes
Yes we can
They say he must wait his turn
They say too much to learn
They say he should stand in line
It's their plan, not mine
I'm ready to believe
No more people who deceive
It's his time to take the stage
It's our time to turn the page
I don't want to be feeling sad
I don't want to be feeling bad
Give us one good man
Who says yes
Yes we can
Obama 2008
It will happen people, so if you can't stand it, go jump off a cliff
That's total bull-shit 🙂 So you mean to tell me that the "other" states don't matter — Hahaha, it's just like when Hillary and McCain started saying his words didn't matter.
It's refreshing how those who oppose Mr. Barack Obama have extremely nit-picky reasons why he should be president.
Seriously (by the way, I know my presidental history 😉) he has had to work the hardest out of nearly any candidate to ever run for president -- there's only been two others that have worked just as hard. However, what's makes this situation different is the media outlets -- which were fewer in the past. This hasn't been a 'cake-walk' for him at all, the only reason he gets postive media coverage is because most of "my" generation wouldn't see it any other way LOL!!!
Many reporters know what he is up against along with some GenXers and Baby Boomers. There are many questionable things about Clinton and McCain that came about, BUT if some tiny little aspect about Mr.Obama comes around -- even if didn't say those things -- it's an instant smear. People are just not use to something different. LOL, it's very amusing how sooooo many Americans are afraid of an Obama presidency but they were confrontable with Reagan, Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, and W. Bush (for crying out sideways). I guess the only thing that matters to people is familiarity 😉
I don't have time to debate this because I'm working but I will say this:
I'm ready to believe
No more people who deceive
It's his time to take the stage
It's our time to turn the page
I don't want to be feeling sad
I don't want to be feeling bad
Give us one good man
Who says yes
Yes we can
They say he must wait his turn
They say too much to learn
They say he should stand in line
It's their plan, not mine
I'm ready to believe
No more people who deceive
It's his time to take the stage
It's our time to turn the page
I don't want to be feeling sad
I don't want to be feeling bad
Give us one good man
Who says yes
Yes we can
Obama 2008
It will happen people, so if you can't stand it, go jump off a cliff

So this was the change he was blabbing on about. The black racist militant agenda.
It was a creed, written in the founding documents
That declared the destiny of a nation
Yes We Can
Hahaha, I bet that just pisses you off doesn't it 😉
It was a creed, written in the founding documents
That declared the destiny of a nation
Yes We Can
Hahaha, I bet that just pisses you off doesn't it 😉

I'm sorry PFE, I shouldn't been around to help you -- the Anti-Obama climate was overwhelming in here LOL

Naaaa. Although I DID try to de-bone a duck.
Too bad would couldn't bake and serve him on a silver platter with roasted potatoes and carrots! Yuummmmyy 😛
Too bad would couldn't bake and serve him on a silver platter with roasted potatoes and carrots! Yuummmmyy 😛

type diatribes all you want, an unbias observer knows that dems find ways to lsoe elections, and this wont be any different
LOL, you are funny. You are probably one of those crazy policial debaters that pick through and over-analyses everything.
My opinion is my opinion, just like yours 😉 The fact that you think of bias is interesting, you should re-read of your comments, then you'll see who is bias LOL!!!
Mr.Obama himself said that he "hopes" that change will come -- he and others (well, those with sense) understand that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make that horse drink anything -- you are a perfect example darling 🙂 He has also stated that he "wants" to bring about change (which is the most over-used word of the year) and if he wants to believe that he can do that, then so be it. A president that believes in himself, will believe in us too.
When it's all said and done and the smoke has cleared, we will see what may come of an Obama presidency 😄
Oh yeah,
Obama'08 and Obama'12
LOL, you are funny. You are probably one of those crazy policial debaters that pick through and over-analyses everything.
My opinion is my opinion, just like yours 😉 The fact that you think of bias is interesting, you should re-read of your comments, then you'll see who is bias LOL!!!
Mr.Obama himself said that he "hopes" that change will come -- he and others (well, those with sense) understand that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make that horse drink anything -- you are a perfect example darling 🙂 He has also stated that he "wants" to bring about change (which is the most over-used word of the year) and if he wants to believe that he can do that, then so be it. A president that believes in himself, will believe in us too.
When it's all said and done and the smoke has cleared, we will see what may come of an Obama presidency 😄
Oh yeah,
Obama'08 and Obama'12

isnt the government set up so one man cant change things?? ya'll do know its just a catchy phrase......how hard was that to come up with? with iraq and all the other shit going on who wouldnt want change. it is an empty slogan. i have seen nothing extremely different about obama than any other politician.
i do know alot of the democratic party is backing obama cuz they see ways of gaining more power themselves.....change means that the clinton favorites wont automatically get all the good appointments....its all political angling and if u dont think so your blind.
race is an issue in the campaign for sure.....i totally respect the pride that black people feel for having a chance to have a black president but with like 90 something percent of black people voting for obama in north carolina.....do they care what he stands for other than he's black?
he seems very clear and convincing in his speeches but from the debates i saw he didnt have that same quality, he was slow and stuttery.....almost like he was looking for the right answer instead giving an honest response.
i do know alot of the democratic party is backing obama cuz they see ways of gaining more power themselves.....change means that the clinton favorites wont automatically get all the good appointments....its all political angling and if u dont think so your blind.
race is an issue in the campaign for sure.....i totally respect the pride that black people feel for having a chance to have a black president but with like 90 something percent of black people voting for obama in north carolina.....do they care what he stands for other than he's black?
he seems very clear and convincing in his speeches but from the debates i saw he didnt have that same quality, he was slow and stuttery.....almost like he was looking for the right answer instead giving an honest response.

hell id vote for collin powell, probably even condoleezza rice. i just dont like obama. its not because he's black.

f-u im so sick of hearing about how only non-college educated white people want hillary because they are to stupid to vote for obama. what a f'in insult. ill tellu why the working white vote is so hard to get especially in rural areas and thats because there isnt a working black class in the areas where they live to respect black people or even to see them as equals and hard working citizens. ive done construction all over this country....the working class(or hillbilly's as u say)is comprised of whites and mexicans. we are the ones driving this countries labor pool. on the 200+ commericial jobsites ive worked on if u were lucky there were a 3 african americans to 100+ whites or mexicans. the white working class plan and simply does not respect black people because they dont see them doing thier part in thier communities. im not saying this is my view......mainly my observations.....but i am sickl of hearing about how only old people and noncollege educated white peopl wont vote for obama. i am a contractor and make 60-70 thousand dollars a year and i never finished college. i was in all advanced classes in high school and was also tested for gifted classes just because i never finished college does not make me a stupid f-n hillbilly........

and mcain will counter with condoleezza rice ...a black woman as his vp...u wait and see😉

and this is just my observation....i have done work on houses in the hood of towns that i live by....and when i say the hood i mean an extemely high concentration of african americans , like say 90% ......what i saw was very intersting. i was on the job at 7:30 in the morning, early enough to see many black women mostly older leaving thier houses and either driving to work or getting picked up by public transportation to go to work. then it was quiet....till say about 10:30/ 11:00am when everyone else started waking up. u could hear the music starting to emanate from the house, deep base coming from several houses.....people starting to venture out on to thier porches. hollering at each other from house to house. then the cars rolling, visiting each other.....these where young african americans either out of high school or drop-outs apparently with no purpose except to hangout. i felt so bad for the older women going to work and watching all these able body men and women do nothing but leach off them. this scene is not replayed in mostly white nieghboroods. now u also have black professionals, african americans who have went to college and made something of themselves.....productive citizens who are looked at by thier counterparts who see them working side by side with them striving for the same life they are which is why the educated white people are voting for obama because they have some respect for black people they have incounterd in there lives and careers. until the lower class uneducated african americans get off their ass and pull thier share non-college educated white people will always vote the way the do. now i dont consider myself racist and i dont feel i should be labeled as one.....i take everybody on a one to one basis, black or white. this is what i have observed and is my take on what i have seen. of course not all white people are productive citizens and not all african americans are non- productive citizens but if u want to understand why obama is not getting the white working class vote it isnt because they are all just ignorant crackers......

these are things ive seen with my own eyes from florida to colorado to ohio and so forth....
im not saying black people dont contribute in american society and to think thats what im saying u would be twisting my words. and yes ms. pisces from a constuction worker stand point no....there arent enough black people doing trades in this country. u dont have to go to college to make a good living in america.....u just have to work hard.
im not saying black people dont contribute in american society and to think thats what im saying u would be twisting my words. and yes ms. pisces from a constuction worker stand point no....there arent enough black people doing trades in this country. u dont have to go to college to make a good living in america.....u just have to work hard.

there are plenty of non-college educated hard working black and white people in this country...im not saying that all black people are lazy but unless u have seen some of the things i have witnessed u have no right to tell me im wrong....or that i have not relayed what i have seen accurately.

i dont live in a major metropolitian area so i am talking from my experience in central florida...and unless u live here u have no right to tell me i have not seen what i have.
florida is different than even georgia which has a very intergrated african american population. black people in georgia are happy.....black people in florida walk around with a chip on thier shoulders. call me what ever u want to but if im just suppossed to be polite and sugar coat stuff then we arent getting anywhere....
florida is different than even georgia which has a very intergrated african american population. black people in georgia are happy.....black people in florida walk around with a chip on thier shoulders. call me what ever u want to but if im just suppossed to be polite and sugar coat stuff then we arent getting anywhere....

theres plenty of lazy white people too...and mexicans arent any harder working than whites or blacks.........

yes because u personally know all the black people in florida right?

and u apparently have a flawed perception of white people

so u cant accept anything anyone else has seen or experienced right?

that was not aimed at u pfe

u have no idea what i have done in my life to call me ignorant or racist and i dont feel the need to list things that i have done to convince u otherwise.

maybe thats so but i was only offering a possible explaination of why non-college educated whites are not voting for a black canidate....not my personal beliefs, but everyones so quick to jump on people.

not at all...no guilt here i have done my share to serve, protect and help my fellow man regardless of race. i have employed white people ,black people, hispanic people, women, deaf people....u name it and befriended all of them....opened up my home to some.....i have a pisces moon...i care about everyone.
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