Oil Passes $98

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071106/oil_prices.html<BR>




What was I said couple of years ago in very same forum..??

Next year will be around 120 thanks to the Yankee's...

Don't just thank us, China is going to surpass us in oil cunsomption in the near future.

and just WHO ARE THE OWNERS of the various oil companies?


>>>>> THOSE WHO PROFIT THE MOST FROM THIS GLOBAL RACKET?

True, you can blame us 'Muricans huh huh for oil prices all you want but when big oil companies explain the price hikes away becasuse of geopolitics and the rising price of oil then anounce record profits at the end of the quarter it should be clear exactly who is responsible.

If the enviroweenies would let us put a couple straws in American soil and the rest of the countries in the world would act instead of bitch about the nations that have all of the oil it wouldn't be such a big problem. It is awesome how us Americans get blamed for everything while those who do the finger pointing sit back and enjoy the bennifits of our action. Not saying we do everything right, or close to everything right but this America bashing stuff is just silly. We should just tell the U.N. to shove it and let the rest of the world fend for themselves....it is still a game of survival when you get down to it might as well put the resources into securing OUR survival if everyone else is just going to blame us for everything anyway.

?game of survaivel?...

Didn't know that we live under the ?jungle laws?..


Not saying we do everything right, or close to everything right

Never did anything right..

Then?

this America bashing stuff is just silly.

Criticizing is not ?bashing?..

We should just tell the U.N. to shove it and let the rest of the world fend for themselves....

USA and its proxy (Israel) did/doing it all the time and its nothing new..

securing OUR survival


Then why are you complaining of terrorism..? what is the meaning of war on terrorism..??


ACTION AND REACTION?! ONE IS GOOD BUT OTHER IS BAD..?

Terrorists fight for their survival too..!!

You are as animal to them that they are to you, then we are still living in stone age my friend and nothing has change despite of 50,000 years of human civilisations..!

correcting..

You are "like" animal to them "as they" are to you, then we are still living in stone age my friend and nothing has change despite of 50,000 years of human civilisations..!

Oil is not a scarse resourse. People think that if we start converting to corn oil or alchohal then it would be a cheaper alternative. Unfortunately, I think that the American government wants oil to be high priced for their own economic benefit. That causes a huge problem for society as it has already though.

Oil isn't "scarcse" but the supply as we know it is a bell curve. We have already gone up the upsolope of the curve and rounded the bend at the peak of the supply. Most major scientists and experts agree with this assesment, right now we are on the downslope and the combination of known oil resources and supply are about where they were in the seventies or eighties but the problem is we are using due to population increase and industrial increase about twice as much as we (the world) were at that time and that is what creates a supply problem.

I am all about the use of alternative fuels but all experts agree that we are several generations from having the ability to replace crude oil with other forms of fuel and power generation. In that time we still need to use oil. We need to secure cheap oil for our country WHILE we work to become energy dependant so that the transition can be a smooth one. Wind, Solar, Hydro Electric, alternative fuel...even used in combination to our maximum current abilities would not even come CLOSE to replacing oil and all of them still use oil in some form during the process of being converted to electricity. I think we need to take another serous look at Nuclear energy.

"You are "like" animal to them "as they" are to you, then we are still living in stone age my friend and nothing has change despite of 50,000 years of human civilisations..!"

And because of this if our two civilizations can not come to some sort of compromise it is going to have to be one or the other. It is the rule of nature. People will always look out for themselves and their support structure first and consider the wants and needs of others later. No matter how lame that is from a humanitarian stand point it is human nature, something that has been instilled in us through those thousands of years. To add fuel to the fire, one of those civilizations has a societal hatred towards the other and feels that the only two options are to convert or kill (in the radical sects of that society). It is what it is. You deal with it as it in the form it is in.

I'd like to know the reason why we are so many generations away from using other forms of fuel. We have the technology now. You listen a few things and "solar" power stuck out most. What about houses? There are quite a bit of houses with solar panels on their roof tops that can efficiently power whatever use an entire household gets. Why can't that be placed in a vehicle now?

Of course there are many other recourses but they are not profitable a well established technology!

US debt tops $ 9 trillion for first time-Treasury
Wed Nov 7, 2007 6:07pm EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0754579020071107<BR>

WASHINGTON, Nov 7 (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department said on Wednesday publicly held U.S. debt breached $ 9 trillion this week for the first time ever, just five weeks after Congress had raised the statutory borrowing limit.

At the end of September, U.S. President George W. Bush signed a measure to increase the debt limit ceiling to $ 9.815 trillion from $ 8.965 trillion, allowing the government to keep issuing debt.

The increase in the debt limit is the fifth since Bush took office in January 2001. The U.S. debt stood at about $ 5.6 trillion at the start of his presidency.

In approving the debt limit increase, Congressional lawmakers said the $ 850 billion increase should be large enough to allow the government to continue borrowing into 2009, well beyond next year's presidential and congressional elections.

The Bush administration estimated the U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal 2007 would total $ 163 billion. The deficit for the year ended Sept. 30 narrowed by 34.3 percent from the $ 248 billion gap in fiscal 2006. (Reporting by Nancy Waitz; editing by Gary Crosse)

? Reuters2007All rights reserved

See

And all of this happens under the name of Americans not the current US Admin.

"You are "like" animal to them "as they" are to you, then we are still living in stone age my friend and nothing has change despite of 50,000 years of human civilisations..!"

And because of this if our two civilizations can not come to some sort of compromise it is going to have to be one or the other.


Compromising is a tool of hypocrites/lairs and manipulators. Cultural and mutual recognitions and respect without provocations of any sort is needed here, not compromising.

No matter how lame that is from a humanitarian stand point it is human nature, something that has been instilled in us through those thousands of years.

Sorry dude.

It is not the ?human nature but forced human behaviour by the ?power that be? Perhaps you've forgotten that we all living under the same sky and the same planet!

As long as the ?power that be? is in US then FUCK US, move it to the Norway I'll promise you to be the first one to say FUCK NORWAY!

No compromising needed!

Qbone, you said something about the American debt. You said it just hit 9 trillion. Doesn't that sound a little retarded? It's like saying "I owe myself 9 trillion dollars".

I didnt "just" said.. its on the news all over.. check the link..

I know that much. I was just asking your opinion. You should be happy that I think something about America is stupid too.

huh.??

Americans are stupid any way.. what else you want me to tell you..??

Your boss... primepig asked me for the solution before...

I have the solution... but I am not giving it for FREE..!

My boss LOL! Qbone, your passion is in the right place and you belong in politics. Your downside is probably all the commentary. You've been doing better in giving refferences and websites that back your information but there's no need to become so dramatic about the stupidity of America when we have quite a few things that are better than any other country.

For example, our road system is, factually, the best system in the world. We have more roads than in anywhere else. If you were in China you might be driving on a dirt road. If you were in Italy you might be trying to float on a raft.

Ever been in the Russia??. The longest and the widest country in the world..??

No? What has that got to do with anything?

You were talking about the road system.. something..!

You can pinpoint yourself -/+ 10 meters anywhere in Russia? what was the road system you were talking about again..??

Stop thinking that ?we Americans? are great..

You are not and the fun is you are all going to pay for that stupid imagination..!

Sorry you?.!

Adultery? cool.. how your nation deal with it, if may I ask..??

And by the way.. stick to the topic..!

What oil barrel prices have to do any thing with stoning some one for his crime..??

I told you that you are stupid ?hafool? long time ago.

I guess the saga continues?

Told you are stupid hafool..!

Fish fuck with no logic..

Shut the fuck up once for all.. damn retard..

NEXT...

Fish fuck with no logic..

Shut the fuck up once for all.. damn retard..


do I need to say one more time..??

for the last time..


Fish fuck with no logic..

Shut the fuck up once for all.. damn retard..

Back to the topic. We have two civilizations whos basic ideology and first principles do not line up. One is trying to mainatin it's status as the most powerful nation, the other has no nation and is governed by radical, hate founded beliefs and has declared war on the other by any means necissary without the balls to do so out in the open. (which is smart, regardless of weather they have balls or not)

So...If a compromise can not be met then the two can not peacefully co-exist. If the two can not peacefully co-exist one has to be eliminated. I choose the one that wants to kill me for not surrendering to their ideology....so....I am alright with it being them.

Right and wrong only goes so far. Theres the right way, the wrong way, and the way it is sometimes. It sucks were in this situation, but if we don't act in the interrest of our safety and prosperity we will loose both. I don't understand why there is even an argument abou this. I think us evil, retarded, whatever other adjective Q wants to use to elequently describe us should do a show of hands on who is with us so we know who we can count on and go ahead and start eliminating this problem so our children don't have to.

The war is strictly about protecting oil interests. That's it. It was never about terrorism, religion, or any of the WMD bullshit that has been used to justify. Oil is a finite and dwindling resource, the US will crumble without a cheap steady supply. The cracks are already forming, this country will be bankrupt and in ruins within ten years.

I understand Middle East hatred for the US and I don't blame them. We have been meddling in their politics for over sixty years beginning with the creation of Israel. All for money, all for oil. It is not religious differences, it is because of all of the pain and suffering the US has caused over the years. Religion is merely used as a rallying call and motivating factor, as it has throughout history.

The war is strictly about protecting oil interests.

The war is strictly about protecting the ?COMPOUND INTEREST? in this case OIL is the excuses.

But thank you for the understanding and your comment.

the global elite prefer to keep us as slaves to oil. they call all the shots and set the price of oil. (which by the way, many believe is a renewable resource)

know anyone lately who was assinated for inventing more efficiant energy technology? if you don't, you are either unaware, or don't give a damn.

hey A!

Nico, I think you are adopting a very narrow view. I dont feel itz actually a clash of civilizations yet. Radical Islamists are only a handful and don't represent the whole population, but no doubt they are still creating a very real danger and tragically, moderate sections are in a way fuelling it by being quietly forgiving ( much like indulgent mothers ).

From my experience, I do have a feeling that to a degree, Islam does intill a sense of all-exclusive superiority over others and add to that itz blazingly glorious ( read invasive ), expansionist past. Now somehow, some of them aren't able to come to terms with modern reality. But upheavels happen to every culture I believe. Life-cycle issue in my opinion.

Also, American greed ( perceptibly , may be due to bias ) mixed with public ignorance is a definite factor here, which just can't be swept under the carpet. And here you are evoking a policy of brutal and decisive elimination. Itz like slapping the Son of God tight.