China building more power plants

This topic was created in the Politics forum by ~mystic_fish on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 and has 54 replies.

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By Roger Harrabin, BBC Environment Analyst
Tuesday, 19 June 2007

China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said.

He said there was no point blaming China for rising global CO2 emissions.

Rich nations had to set an example of low-carbon development for China to follow, Mr Ashton told the BBC.

His statement came as a new report suggested that China may have already become the world's biggest polluter - much earlier than expected.

The Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency said China's CO2 emissions had risen by 9% last year, compared with 1.4% in the US.

Carbon footprint:

"It is a massive challenge," Mr Ashton told the BBC following a recent trip to China.

"We need to convince China that they don't have to make a choice between prosperity and protecting the climate. We need to help them towards a low-carbon future.

"There is also a moral case. Most of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have been put there by developed countries without the constraint of having to worry about the climate. That means we should bear the leading edge of responsibility.

Mr Ashton added that the Chinese had put out their first climate strategy, in an effort "to get to grips with their emissions and use energy efficiently".

He pointed out that much of China's emissions growth was being driven by consumers in the West buying Chinese goods, and noted that China's emissions per person were still well below those of rich nations.

It is estimated that the average American still pollutes between five and six times more than the average Chinese person.

Climate sceptics in the UK have been asking why Britons should switch off lights, turn down central heating and avoid foreign flights in order to save carbon when the Chinese are increasing emissions at their current rate.

"Responsibility for China's soaring emissions lies not just in Beijing but also in Washington, Brussels and Tokyo," said Greenpeace UK director John Sauven.

"All we've done is export a great slice of the West's carbon footprint to China, and today we see the result.

"Let us not forget that the average Chinese emits just 3.5 tonnes of CO2 per year, whereas Britons emit nearly 10 tonnes and Americans 20 tonnes.

"The West moved its manufacturing base to China knowing it was vastly more polluting than Japan, Europe or the US," he added.

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"No environmental conditions were attached to this move; in fact the only thing manufacturers were interested in was the price of labour.

"This trend kept the price of our products down but at the cost of soaring greenhouse gas emissions. Long term, this policy has been a climate disaster.

"We should export clean energy technology to China to increase low carbon and renewable energy take-up so the products we import have a smaller carbon footprint."

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Yea, nice luck to tell China to reduce carbon emissions. The whole problem is capitalism, which I am not a big fan of. If you want a greener earth, capitalism is the key obstacle. Evern since the industrial revolution, the world is getting more and more rapidly polluted. But everyone here is obssessed with getting rich...(I am exceptional though)

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They don't talk about anything about the disaster like Agent Orange they've used in Vietnam... or Union Carbide incident in India... You never heard of 1500 tons of DU munitions and its deadly radiations being used in Iraq since 90's by the Americans contaminating the area for the next 2 billion years...

But suddenly CO2 emissions on dangerous level by the China in resent years.....!

Nobody talks about what murdering thing Americans did on the world's population?

Assholes?..

That's what I call it funny...

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I agree red_aries; unfortunately it may take a global disaster for all nations to wake up and work together, for the betterment of future generations. Whatever happened to 'Kyoto'..? 'i know Canada had pledged to reduce its emission of greenhouse gases to six per cent below 1990 levels by 2012. Who knows, maybe kyoto can work, if (everyone) embraces it.. 'although some argue the accord would wreak havoc on the economy and the energy sector; but of course the cost to the environment would be so MUCH greater..

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Apparently, people care more about the poverty gap than some climate change dillema. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. There are still many that live on the streets, struggling to survive everyday.

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These monkeys are famous around.. trashing the other people's post with their pile of meaningless shit ?? then if they are short of meanings, then they will flag the post and delete it like it happened several times on my earlier posts..

American FREEDOM? lol.. like what we like to hear not what you want to say..

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Sam idiot criticising he Chinese car... don even know the key board or monitor or components in his stupid computer is made in china?.

Freak..??.. you tell me.. I've been trying to tell the asshole for a year?

Funny is he accusing me to be racist?.

Lmao?

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"China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said."

Logically said?. the nation of 1 billion + needs more power and sure they need to create more power stations..? Americans are only 300 millions?

Same bigot denying the CO2 emissions and Kyoto? or what ever? but suddenly.. ohh see what china did?.

Lmao?

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Barack Obama recently caused a stir when he called Hillary Clinton the "Senator from Punjab." Not that Barack Obama himself is innocent; he supports the third-world (i.e. cheap labor) invasion of the U.S., and thus is no friend to middle-class Americans. But what he said does raise a point.

There are more of it?. This is what Americans sees you.. A cheap labour?SLAVES..!... after they've done with you are an Indian/Mexican/Chinese and should be deported?!

Look for the comments from the asshole above?

Typical American..

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*shakes hand with Q*
you have my support.
Not against americans but nevertheless your radical bluntless is needed to change society.
Btw I am not a big fan of america either.

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Suuuuure..

How you like to be served in the future ?sir politician sir— Would you like to hear kiss my rear end, or kiss my behind, or kiss my butt instead of ?kiss my ass?..??

I wouldn't mind it if it makes you feel any better.!

If the USA started to Draft its sons and daughters there would be quite a change of heart as to fighting the wars on terrorism, that have been promoted by the powers that be.

This change of heart would take place in the blink of an eye.

The USA is rotten to the core, and everyone on earth knows it. The way to sober up the USA is to have a NO EXEMPTION DRAFT and the so called spoiled ?patriots" like you would change their tune.

FAST?!

Dare to preach about violence to me? Heh?.! Take a good look at the mess around the world ?sir politician sir? for what's been created by the liars like you by deployments of the military might to deliver immense adversities to the nations that haven't done anything to you to your soil or the American nation, listen carefully kid.. (Deploying of the military might by the means of pre-emptive attacks) = (VIOLENCE at the EXTREME LEVEL) capisch? You politician guys have to this, ought to lie to your people, or else they may suspecting that their tax money been wasted on the bunch of useless fags and it is not appropriate according to the American dreams. Now who's the violent here?

How about the political violence? lol? sanctions here, boycotting there, ban here or freezing the assets there if any country refuses to agree with the US policies and terms, it seems that the spoiled Americans are use to this type of culture of nonsense since the WWII.

?DO AS WE TELLING YOU TO DO, OR ELSE?.. !? Lmao.. well, here is my middle finger for the start.

As long as the other people kids fighting for the sake of big mouth- smartass- lying monkeys like your politicians and DIEING and DIE they shall by all means, you small time losers (patriot wannabe) wouldn't mind to babbling about politics just to show your pathetic and shameless attitude by means of provocations.

While the US kids are dieing in illegal war you sure like to talk about the latest shows on your stupid TEE WEE channels and since you like to watch and doing nothing but bullshiting and if you think that I am wrong, then go and watch these REAL DOCUMENTARIES instead, invite some of these clowns that are always following you around in this message board too, come on.. what do you say ..??

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? Why we fight
? Letters from Iwo Jima
? Flags of our fathers
? Fogs of war
? Sicko
? Fahrenheit 911
? Bowling for Columbine
? USA THE MOVIE
? The Corporation
? Winter soldier
? Sir!NO sir!

? Etc. the list is damn long and all of'em are made in good ole YUU EHS of EHH?!

? Watch them all if you dare, then talk? of course you and the other thugs will blame it all on the liberals, democrats, socialists, terrorists, communists even err Mexicans?!

? You guys are good at it anyway..!

? Have nice day cutie pie?lol

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*shakes hand with Q*

Thank you Red Aries for your kindness.. but watch your back please, these American thugs has no shame..!

THEY CAN ALL KISS MY ASS THOU?! That's for sure..!

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You jerk underestimating his sense of (right or wrong)? so you have this urge to directing him for what is wrong or right?

Americans..

Red_aries?. see what I mean—

That's the proof?

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Communism ehh, no trade whit the communist Cuba? but the china is damn cool?

Now why would the idiots like you open up the trade with china they are commi right..??

Fuck? double crossed idiots..

That's why I said FUCK THE AMERICANS? never trust em

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Why should I answer your question, you clearly are losing it since you delusions are growing more and more profound

Likewise you bastard... Consider yourself LUCKY to get any answer?

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