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When it comes to guys I potentially want to get with, I consider two things:

1. I take time to notice how a guy dresses. While I'm not a fashion-obsessed snob, I'd be lying if I said I didn't care about how a guy dresses himself. It doesn't have to be designer clothes or expensive clothing in general, but I care if he takes the time to look good. Same with how he style s himself.

2. I tend to quickly judge how a guy will be in bed and what his lovemaking style would be like (for one, I don't have sex that often, but I care about sex a lot).

While I wasn't unaware of these things, I just began to notice how often I do it with guys. I'm not ashamed or anything, but it just surprised me.

What sort of things do you judge your potential SO's on that aren't what we would called the "norm" (ie personality, smile, body, ect)?
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HA! Oddly, I watch a guy's rhythm & ability to move on the dance floor somehow as a measurement for how good or not he'll be in the bedroom! I know, I know..Just b/c a man can dance doesn't mean that he'll be good in the bedroom BUT there's just something so sexy about a man who has rhythm & a certain "swag" on the dancefloor. I automatically associate his ability to dance with how much confidence he has in himself, how good of a "touch" he has (You know some guys just have that touch) AND how well-tuned he is in the bedroom. I know it sounds silly but hey, I'm just being honest

I pay alot of attention to how a man keeps up with his hair. Even though hair isn't everything, it's the 1 thing that people will ALWAYS see & notice about someone every single day. It's kind of like clothing & shoes...it can say alot about someone. This is why I prefer men who have clean & shaven cuts. The whole "rugged" look isn't really attractive to me. The way I see it, if a guy keeps his hair (mustache, go-tee, etc.) shaved & kept clean-cut, it shows me that he takes great pride in his appearance & that he isn't one to slack off in terms of hygeine.

Another one...hmmm...For some reason I am VERY attracted to how some men laugh. I watch/observe how comfortable a man is laughing at something that to him, is VERY funny. There's nothing worse than watching someone let out a slight chuckle when you can tell they really want to burst out laughing! When a man is comfortable laughing his OWN laugh around me, it shows confidence & shows me his sense of humor. It tells me that he's not afraid to be who he is. Men who cover their mouths when they're laughing OR who barely laugh at something they consider extremely funny, often turn me off. Idk, it's almost like it makes me assume that they're not comfortable with who they are and/or that they're hiding something.

All of these things, btw, are things I'm not ashamed of either ;~P
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I pay alot of attention to how a man keeps up with his hair. Even though hair isn't everything, it's the 1 thing that people will ALWAYS see & notice about someone every single day. It's kind of like clothing & shoes...it can say alot about someone. This is why I prefer men who have clean & shaven cuts. The whole "rugged" look isn't really attractive to me. The way I see it, if a guy keeps his hair (mustache, go-tee, etc.) shaved & kept clean-cut, it shows me that he takes great pride in his appearance & that he isn't one to slack off in terms of hygeine.




This is exactly why I care about men and their personal grooming habits/how they dress. I feel like a man who takes pride in his appearance will take pride in a lot of things, one of them being hygiene as well as what he does to his body. I take a lot of pride in how I look, so I kind of want a guy who is going to appreciate the same thing. I will admit that when a guy compliments me on my clothes, hair, makeup, ect rather than my appearance as a whole, I get a little more excited. He has an eye for detail and shows that he is observant, which is also something I like. Although, at the time, I'm not thinking all of this, in the end, this is what I like to think about.
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HIGH-5!!! I def. agree!

It is a HUGE TURN ON when a man notices the little things. Telling me "You're sexy" is great & all, BUT a man telling me that he "Loves my eyeshadow & how it correlates with my outfit" is even MORE of a turn on. I think it's awesome & intriging when a man wants you to notice that HE noticed the small/little things that other men probably over-looked!

I mean hey, after all I notice EVERYTHING! And I'm sure a man would appreciate me complimenting him on something that most girl overlook too! It's so cliche & "typical" to compliment a man on his muscles or on his smile..ya know things that EVERYBODY is likely to notice whether they're interested or not. That's why I love to let certain men know that I picked up on the little things b/c it catches them off guard & allows them to appreciate me having an eye for detail. After all, we wore that pretty eyeshadow b/c we wanted someone to notice & vice versa!

Even though some of the most scandalous & dirty men can come off as having a very clean cut & smooth demeanor lol, I still gear more towards the men who atleast put in all the effort to look nice the same way I do. It's not about being shallow or expecting for my man to look "prettier" than me. BUT, hey, us liking men who take great pride in their appearance like we do is the SAME thing as an athletic man knowing how to appreciate a woman who is also athletic.

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I think it all boils down to one thing when sizing up a potential partner for me. Thats whether he has the confidence and ability to protect me. I always look to feel safe.

I realize this thread is not about how we are with potential partners, but how I am is just too strange not to share. I make it my business...my goal... to look as I would any day of the week hanging out by myself. I just can't for the life of me get into the idea of wanting to dress to impress for someone new. I think I want to be sure the guy I'm with is falling for who I am, not what I look like. Once we're together though...I'm all about looking special for him.

Honestly, I'd prefer to see any guy I date to look as normal as possible too. Don't get me wrong though...I understand why people do like to look nice/put together. Its more of a realistic way to approach dating.
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Honestly, I'd prefer to see any guy I date to look as normal as possible too. Don't get me wrong though...I understand why people do like to look nice/put together. Its more of a realistic way to approach dating.



Well I agree that some people only like to look nice b/c it's a part of the "image" or "look" they are trying to sell to someone, even if that "image" doesn't even represent who they TRULY are. BUT, then again there ARE some people who dress nice all the time for THEMSELVES, whether they are single or not. And while I agree that letting a man see the REAL me is important, I also feel that it's important for a man to see what I look like when I'm at my BEST! There's nothing wrong with showing him the side of you that likes to wear sweatpants around the house, BUT there's also nothing wrong with showing your man how awesome you look in makeup & heels either! It's all about finding that balance so that the other person knows EXACTLY who/what they are TRULY getting themselves into.

What I don't agree with are the people who look like hell all day, every day all up until they finally start dating! Now THAT is false advertising! BUT, I personally like dressing my best anyways, whether I'm in the company of a man or not. And hey, if my DRESS just so happens to IMPRESS, then kudos to me!

But I like getting up every morning & putting my all into things b/c appearance DOES matter. And it matters a helluva lot more than people like to admit. A person is NOT shallow all b/c they prioritize their appearance. Hell, you only get 1 face & you only get 1 shot to show others WHY they should want you. And unfortunately, others can't see your personality & inner qualities when 1st walking by you. They can only see your face & how you dress. And based on THOSE things, they may try to sum you up or "guess" what type of person you may be.

The same goes for other things outside of just dating. Appearance is JUST AS IMPORTANT in the professional world too. Sure, I might wish my boss understood just how much I HATE wearing "secretary suits" BUT at the same time, if I have to dress up & look presentable (in THEIR eyes) all so I can keep a job & roof over my head, then I'll do what I gotta do!
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@Cappy: Maybe it's just me, but I ALWAYS pay attention to a man's FINGER NAILS! I look to see how clean or not they are!

If I spot a man with dirty fingernails (& especially if they're LONG nails) it instantly turns me off. Sure, it'd be my luck that his nails were only dirty coincidentally on the day I met him for whatever reason, BUT I think it says alot about a man when his nails are/aren't clean! Sure, he could've been playing in the mud that day, thus that might be the reason his nails have dark brown/black lines underneath them, BUT unnnnfortunately, my imagination will see those nails & assume they're dirty b/c HE'S dirty, moreso than I'll make up scenarious/justifications for him as to why they're dirty!

Nails on a guy is just 1 of those things that tell me alot! And especially since alot of men aren't even aware of how their finger nails look OR even that certain women pay attention. And I don't feel bad either b/c I'm 100% sure that if I were to wear open-toed shoes that MOST (if not ALL) men would eventually find the time to look DOWN to observe how well polished & "kept" they are!

If a man's nails are clean, it shows me that he's probably got excellent hygeine. BUT if he's clean-cut shaven & looking smooth/good with every else BUT his nails, I'll instantly assume that him appearing to be so "clean" is just an image/act! HA! Ther'es just something so sexy about a man who knows how to keep his nails clean! It shows me that he doesn't stick his fingers in dirty places ;~P
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Honestly, I'd prefer to see any guy I date to look as normal as possible too. Don't get me wrong though...I understand why people do like to look nice/put together. Its more of a realistic way to approach dating.



Well I agree that some people only like to look nice b/c it's a part of the "image" or "look" they are trying to sell to someone, even if that "image" doesn't even represent who they TRULY are. BUT, then again there ARE some people who dress nice all the time for THEMSELVES, whether they are single or not. And while I agree that letting a man see the REAL me is important, I also feel that it's important for a man to see what I look like when I'm at my BEST!
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The real me is definitely someone who loves looking good while appearing comfortable at the same time. I don't wear heels to class every day (or very much at all) but I love to coordinate my looks, to accentuate, to appear nice and put together while still looking like I'm not forcing it. That's me (note, I also have my venus in leo, hehehe).

When I also see this in a guy, I melt. I don't want a guy to try too hard, but when I can tell that the guy is dressing that good for himself (and doesn't appear too overdone), then I'm sold. This doesn't meant that our style s have to match, but I want to be able to feel like he looks good because he truly wants to and not for me. Sure, I might get a little more dressy for a guy when I see him, but I tend to dress al ittle more dressy than most regardless lol.

I remember a conversation I had with a cancer guy before we went on a date was like:

Cancer: I don't even know what to wear.
Me: I don't either actually. But I already know I'm going to dress too well for the occasion regardless because that's what I do.
Cancer: I love that. I'll try not to take this too seriously.
Me: Don't worry about it! I want to you dress like you want to, and if you want to look like you walked right out of GQ, go for it. Because I love that anyway.

So yeah. I look good for me. And when a guy notices things about me that you wouldn't notice as a whole, I LOVE it (also, comments on my eyes don't hurt either since I'm a fan of mascara).

A guy once complimented on my shoulders and I was actually rather surprised. I hadn't had that happen often before, but
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Honestly, I'd prefer to see any guy I date to look as normal as possible too. Don't get me wrong though...I understand why people do like to look nice/put together. Its more of a realistic way to approach dating.



Well I agree that some people only like to look nice b/c it's a part of the "image" or "look" they are trying to sell to someone, even if that "image" doesn't even represent who they TRULY are. BUT, then again there ARE some people who dress nice all the time for THEMSELVES, whether they are single or not. And while I agree that letting a man see the REAL me is important, I also feel that it's important for a man to see what I look like when I'm at my BEST! There's nothing wrong with showing him the side of you that likes to wear sweatpants around the house, BUT there's also nothing wrong with showing your man how awesome you look in makeup & heels either! It's all about finding that balance so that the other person knows EXACTLY who/what they are TRULY getting themselves into.
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I'm just a more casual person in general. I don't really need to get dressed up for work nor have I gotten very dolled up for new guys in my life. However, I know there are those that want to look good all of the time. That, to me, is a sign of self respect and I absolutely value and recognize how feeling good about your appearance affects your attitude, your self confidence, your mood, and your life. I still dress very casually, but I've made more of a point to style my hair instead of putting it into a ponytail or throwing on a baseball cap. 🙂
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@Shadows: Awesome! And hey I don't blaim you for not driving yourself crazy & going into over-load mode just to impress someone else. After all, being CONFIDENT & self-assured enough to show someone what you look like behind closed doors OR on the 1st date shows JUST AS MUCH confidence & other things no diff. than someone who goes all out to look nice for the other person.

What I CAN'T STAND are the women/men who spend 3 hours getting ready for a 1st date! There's nothing wrong with wanting another person to see you at your best, BUT if you've gotta take off early for half a day all so that you can have 5+ hours to look good, then I'd question WHY that person needs THAT many hours just to look "presentable" to someone else!

It's 1 thing to dedicate an extra hour to making sure your hair & makeup has an extra "UMPH" for the night, BUT it's another thing to need 2+ hours so you can put on fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake nails, fake contacts, etc lol. You get where I'm going with this!

As for me, I'm already planning on looking nice when I step outside of my house ANYWAYS so the only thing I'd possibly do that's "extra" for a date is maybe put a few MORE splashes of perfume on or something small! But I think it's silly & NOT even worth it for someone to go from loooking like Whoopi G. all the way to trying to pull off a "Beyonce" just b/c they're going on a 1st date! Clearly, that'd be an indication of FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!
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"1. I take time to notice how a guy dresses. While I'm not a fashion-obsessed snob, I'd be lying if I said I didn't care about how a guy dresses himself. It doesn't have to be designer clothes or expensive clothing in general, but I care if he takes the time to look good. Same with how he style s himself."

ah, iv'e found it very surprising how much women take notice to things like this, i mean we all like someone who takes pride in their appearance from body image and hygiene, to the clothes people wear and style , but not to the point where it makes you decide whether you want a relationship or not? i mean that's just absurd in my mind. but i'm not denying it, iv'e gone out with an obvious look that iv'e put shit loads of effort into my clothing and hair and shit and noticed looks from the women i would never usually get if i was wearing the normal clotes i'd usually wear? same with friends i have who always wear, or decide to wear fancy shit. especially with shoes, it's like now the first thing chicks look at these days is footwear?? i mean that doesn't mean shit really does it? it just shoes that someone is sad enough to spend ridiculous money on shoes at the end of the day that won't even last a year? but hey, what can ya do?
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I'm not saying that what the guy wears is a deal breaker. It's just one of the few things I notice first and probably one of the few things that really attracts me to the guy. I mean, I found myself attracted to a guy who wore a t-shirt and basketball shorts all day, every day.

I also said I'm attracted to a wide range of guys. Geeky/funny guys are some of my favorites because I'm also a bit geeky with a sense of humor. If I could really break down the guys I end up getting with it's:

Guys who have a sense of humor, who aren't afraid to show what they are passionate about, are usually geeky, and have a nice sense of style .
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You women like femininity in men without an inch of masculinity lol.



(Looks around) Who said they like men who are completely feminine? B/c I sure as hell never said I did!!!!

Everything doesn't always have to be about masculinity vs. femininity. Alot of gender roles are merging. A man simply caring about his appearance doesn't make him feminine nor does it make him any less of a man either.

And it all depends on what you consider "athletic." I'm sure you wouldn't prefer a body builder BUT for some women, they consider themselves "athletic" simply b/c they work out, like to keep their bodies toned, etc. Trust me, I'm sure the only reason some women have amazing bodies that you can't keep your eyes/hands off is b/c they are athletic! A woman knowing how to get on a treadmill or lift weights doesn't make her masculine. That's like saying that men are the ONLY ones who are entitled to stay in shape & if you repeat that to yourself, it sounds bogus & completely ignorant.

I may not necessarily want a man who spends more hours in the mirror than I do, BUT hey if my man is into fashion & knows how to correlate his outfits, I'd be a fool to knock him for it! Hell, almost every man in the entertainment industry has to at some level consider appearance to be high in priority. That doesn't make him feminine or less of a man.
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I used to think that I would enjoy being around some-what-shy guys but I don't. And then I thought it'd be amazing to have a guy go crazy for me out of no where but I actually experienced that and was freaked out. And then I grew up and thought hard about what I want.

Some of the things I also notice without noticing (lol) is the small things. Posture for one. Groomed for big time. I usually notice what I DO like when I come across things about men I DON"T like. I've seen over (unattractive) confidence and the oposite of that too. And style . I don't care about big that fashion but the way a guy presents himself is a big deal I think for everyone whether they're aware of it or not. When I think about it I like guys who know how to dress up without over exaderation when going out but wears t-shirts and jeans when staying home.

And most importantly: they're reactions to small things. Those say allot to me. Patiance, attitude, I can read those from simple reactions in public or when we'd watch dramatic shows or movies.


One thing I noticed that I'm a bit too judjemental about is when I come across a guy skinny enough to have arms skinnier then mine. I think some meat on bones is better then none. Health is important, and if he looks like he doesn't eat enough then that's MY turn off because I love food! And I love being active just as much!
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@Vitas: Well you might as well get hip to the NEW version of femininity b/c if I'm not mistaken I see more women nowadays with BIGGER BALLS than the men out here. Simply having a penis doesn't make you a man nor does it make you masculine. Women who are single mothers might be passive or whatever the hell you call them BUT the very fact that they are raising their children BY THEMSELVES (when it took TWO) sheds a more negative light on the man moreso than it does her. As far as I'm concerned, any man who isn't "MAN" enough to help in raising his own children has alot of nerve criticizing the likes of the mother's parenting style . That's like a 2nd grader trying to tell ME about Algebra! It'll go in 1 ear & out the next
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@Vit: And certain traits know no gender. Traits like loyalty, aggressiveness, etc. isn't strictly a "man" or "woman" thing. If a man is aggressive, good for him BUT if he's not, that doesn't make him any less of a man. And since you believe women are WEAK, it says horrible things about the men who chase after and/or can't live without such "weaklings." I thought the strong only hung with the strong?! ;~P
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@Vit: And certain traits know no gender. Traits like loyalty, aggressiveness, etc. isn't strictly a "man" or "woman" thing. If a man is aggressive, good for him BUT if he's not, that doesn't make him any less of a man. And since you believe women are WEAK, it says horrible things about the men who chase after and/or can't live without such "weaklings." I thought the strong only hung with the strong?! ;~P



Anger is associated with testosterone, passiveness is associated with estrogen, don't try to tell me I'm wrong because point is, I'm not. Men don't like women who are "tomboyish" or "aggressive" because it is a masculine trait, just like women don't like nice guys because they are "passive" because you bitches don't feel "safe" or "secured" with them, because they make you "FEEL" masculine. Same reason why bitches don't react to visual cues, only emotional ones, because your not logical like men are, you are primarily emotional, women don't like strong men because they "look" good, women like strong men because they make them "FEEL" feminine, this been scientifically proven so don't tell me otherwise. Weak women are attracted to strong men, strong women are attracted to stronger men, do you understand the correlation here? A women who's assertive will be shot down in public, or conceived negatively. A man who's submissive or passive is considered a "pussywhipped" or a little bitch and will have negative connotations allied to him, his socio status will go down. The humans haven't evolve for the last 30,000 years, everything relates to attraction, don't believe me? Go take a socio dynamic class or even better an anthropology course then come back at me with intellectual thesis and reasoning...
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This is all theory not proven. Not EVERY woman or EVERY man acts this way. I am very masculine in the way I act and men are attracted to me. I do not need a man to make me feel feminine! I am definately not emotional!

No guy has ever passed me by for my "manish" ways, infact they have loved the way that I can be their lover and thier best friend. And I do not go for your typical "strong man". In fact in most of my relationships I'm more of a man then they will ever be!

You not heard the song "miss independant"? Theres something sexy about a woman who wa
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No actually I live in England, so am 6 hours ahead of you so was sleeping 😛.

Believe it or not newspapers arnt fact and neither is research. I dont care what the newspapers say. I know what type of man I want, do you think I am the only exception to the rule? because I can tell you I am not.

If it is FACT, then shouldnt my manly ways cause me to always be single? and wouldnt "soft guys" NEVER have a girlfriend. SOME women want strong men, SOME women want a soft man. I personally want my EQUAL.

We can all find research to back up our beliefs/opinions. You can not tell me how I am! Maybe you have the issues you are the one who got on the defensive about women wanting "metrosexuals". You can build yourself up and flex your muscles all you like but some women just dont want that shit!

My mum is a strong woman, who worked in partnership with my dad, who I would say is her Equal. He is no stronger then her. My mum is strong without losing her feminity. I am strong, I do not want or need a man to make me feel safe. My strongness does not repel men, it attracts them. We are not cave people anymore, us women are not helpless, we do not all want a man to support us. I am a Strong Independant Woman, and i'll be damned if any man thinks he can tell me, what I want!
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Yea everyone stays the fuck shut as soon as I pull out the scientific studies, all you disobedient motherfuckers can shut the fuck up either you come up with some validating shit or submit to me mate.



So, if I was attracted to somewhat feminine men (which I am sometimes), are you saying I am purely masculine?
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He is saying that no one should be attracted to feminine men because we all want a strong man. If you want a feminine man (like I also tend to go for) then we must be very WEAK women as woman ONLY like men who are stronger then us! (apparently)
and men only like woman weaker then them !(apparantly)
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would i date a shorter man? YES would i date a smaller man? YES would i date a man who takes longer in the bathroom then me? NO but thats nothing to do with him being weak I just dont like waiting around for people. so your 110% is a little bit off!

No one respects women in power? Ha tell that to the supporters of Margaret Thatcher , who was the UK primeminister incase you dont know! I didnt like her views but no one can deny she ruled the country with an Iron fist (also a libra 🙂 )

I like metrosexuals and a few other women in this thread have also stated they do. Obviously we must all be in denial *rolls eyes* You are not a woman so you can not speak for us. YOU may want a weak woman but that says more about you!

If you are these "stong men" you are referring to then I really do hope I am repelling them! I do not see you as a strong man, I see you as an egotistical, fool. By the way you talk it seems as if you want women to be weak and vulnerable and "helpless". Men get raped, men commit suicide, men sufer domestic violence, thing is most men keep quiet about these things, and those things arent what make people weak. You are not a storng man, to me it seems quite clear that you infact FEAR woman haha!
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Yea everyone stays the fuck shut as soon as I pull out the scientific studies, all you disobedient motherfuckers can shut the fuck up either you come up with some validating shit or submit to me mate.



So, if I was attracted to somewhat feminine men (which I am sometimes), are you saying I am purely masculine?



Yes pretty much, strong women are attracted to feminine men because they want their men to be submissive and cooperative, feminine women has no choice but to submit to the masculine dominance. oh and LOL @ your (which I am sometimes) this tells me what your attracted to is not stable nor fixed, now that has a lot to do with your social/emotional development.
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Truth be told, I actually DON'T want to dominate my men. Deep down, I'm rather submissive, but I just consider myself independent. But to add what you said, if a guy is OVERLY dominant, we're going to butt heads because I can never truly submit. I need a balance. Honestly, when I'm attracted to feminine men, I'm attracted to something in their features or again the way they dress. If you're trying to psychoanalyze me, you'd have to hear the whole story of my life, and I'm sure you don't want to do that.
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Billy joal loves strong women 🙂

The song was released in 1977, following several other hits from Billy Joel's successful album The Stranger including "Just the Way You Are," "Movin' Out," and "Only the Good Die Young." Musically, Billy has said that he was influenced by Gordon Lightfoot and his mellow acoustic guitar ballads. Lyrically, many people misinterpreted the words as being misogynistic or sarcastic, but it is a ballad, a love song that Billy wrote for his then wife, Elizabeth. Elizabeth had taken over management of Billy's career, and was able to put his financial affairs in order after Billy had signed some bad deals and contracts. She was a tough and savvy negotiator who could "wound with her eyes" or "steal like a thief," but would "never give in." Because of her tough-as-nails negotiating style , many business adversaries thought she was "unfeminine," but to Billy, she was always a woman. Billy and Elizabeth eventually divorced in 1982.[2].

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Because I do not fit into your ideology I am wrong?

You constantly say NO ONE respects a strong woman, I have given examples of respected women. You mean that YOU do not respect strong women.

Like my STRONG mother told me "never argue with an idiot, you will brought down to their level and they will beat you with experience." You are an Idiot so I will take her advice. You are quite obviously a Sexist. Continue to live in FEAR of us 🙂


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Yea everyone stays the fuck shut as soon as I pull out the scientific studies, all you disobedient motherfuckers can shut the fuck up either you come up with some validating shit or submit to me mate.



So, if I was attracted to somewhat feminine men (which I am sometimes), are you saying I am purely masculine?



Yes pretty much, strong women are attracted to feminine men because they want their men to be submissive and cooperative, feminine women has no choice but to submit to the masculine dominance. oh and LOL @ your (which I am sometimes) this tells me what your attracted to is not stable nor fixed, now that has a lot to do with your social/emotional development.



Truth be told, I actually DON'T want to dominate my men. Deep down, I'm rather submissive, but I just consider myself independent. But to add what you said, if a guy is OVERLY dominant, we're going to butt heads because I can never truly submit. I need a balance. Honestly, when I'm attracted to feminine men, I'm attracted to something in their features or again the way they dress. If you're trying to psychoanalyze me, you'd have to hear the whole story of my life, and I'm sure you don't want to do that.



I'm not trying to psychoanalyze you, I've already psychoanalyzed you. Your are passionate and intense, emotional over logistics, in order to govern you one must engage you indirectly otherwise you'd put up a defensive wall, your logic's are irregular. Oh and don't consider yourself independent just because you live with a roommate 😉
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Being independent is more than just a physical thing. I consider myself independent because I handle many of my issues and my responsibilities on my own and I've had for a long time; that's just how I was raised. I'm aware that I live with other people and still go to my mother for certain things, but at 20, I don't expect myself to be completely at a point where I can cut off all ties. If you want me to buy my own house now to be independent, then I su
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freedom from the control, influence, support, aid, or the like, of others.

The way I feel you are taking this is in almost a completely literal and concrete fashion. I won't deny that I do get some financial help, but I'm a college student and the jobs I do work don't pay for everything. Over the summer though, I was paying much of my rent in the house I stayed in before I moved again (I stay in campus apartments so I can keep my job); in other means, I don't rely on anyone besides myself for a lot of things. If I take control of my own life for the majority, I still view that as independence.

And going to back to what we were originally talking about, I don't rely on men that much. I very much do my own thing, and if he can't keep up, then I don't need him. I have my own priorities and life. IMO, that is a form of independence.

If there is another word to categorize this, then please tell me. I wouldn't say I'm entirely independent from everything, and if I'm not, I'm definitely learning how to be.
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freedom from the control, influence, support, aid, or the like, of others.

The way I feel you are taking this is in almost a completely literal and concrete fashion. I won't deny that I do get some financial help, but I'm a college student and the jobs I do work don't pay for everything. Over the summer though, I was paying much of my rent in the house I stayed in before I moved again (I stay in campus apartments so I can keep my job); in other means, I don't rely on anyone besides myself for a lot of things. If I take control of my own life for the majority, I still view that as independence.

And going to back to what we were originally talking about, I don't rely on men that much. I very much do my own thing, and if he can't keep up, then I don't need him. I have my own priorities and life. IMO, that is a form of independence.

If there is another word to categorize this, then please tell me. I wouldn't say I'm entirely independent from everything, and if I'm not, I'm definitely learning how to be.



You just admitted and submitted the point I wanted to prove to all mate, thanx candeh I appreciate it very dearly LMAO. Everything is taken into literal context the world isn't black and white, it's black white and gray. Operative word is "for a lot of thing" you still rely on others for many things. The original implications of my former argument was that every woman wants to mate or allied themselves with a strong man whether physical emotional or mental because that's how nature intended, nurture however has taken a different course of action throughout the years but nature will always overpower nurture. No one can deny that truth, sub consciously we all wish to mate with the best of the best for resource or to produce healthy offspring in the end it's all about survival, 30,000 years have passed, genetically speaking we've never evolved from the paleolithic era.
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True. We're all designed to shack up with the person we deem suitable to give us healthy and fit offspring. We have these needs that we want to find someone who can deal with them, and they usually are universal. At the end of the day, it's what we're supposed to do, but we developed things along the way that abstain from that. I'm not saying that I don't like my guys to be a
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Definitions of sexist on the Web:

??male chauvinist: a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women
??discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men's attitude toward women)
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

??Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, 6th edition is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexist

??A person who discriminates on grounds of sex; someone who practises sexism; Unfairly discriminatory against one sex in favour of the other
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sexist

??sexism - discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

??sexism - The belief that people of one sex or gender are inherently superior to people of the other sex or gender; Unfair treatment or discrimination based on a difference of sex or gender; Disadvantage or unequal opportunity arising from the cultural dominance of one gender over the other; Promotion or ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sexism

??sexism - Behaviour and beliefs that rank the sexes (the physical characteristics that define male and female) and genders (cultural and psychological definitions of femininity and masculinity), placing more value on one over the other. ...
www.students.ubc.ca/mura/access/index.cfm/race-ethnicity/glossary/

??Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on gender. Like the other "isms," sexism can be both personal and institutional.
www.adl.org/children_holocaust/more_resources.asp
??sexism - defines the ideology of male supremacy, of male superiority and of beliefs that support and sustain it. Sexism and patriarchy mutually reinforce one another. source
www.ruralwomyn.net/define.html

??sexism - Stereotyping, prejudice and discrimination against individuals or groups because of their gender.
equalitydiversityservices.co.uk/jargon-buster/

??sexism - is an attitude toward a person based on that person's gender rather than on objective knowledge of the person.
www.lamed.org/Diversity_Concepts.htm

??sexism - Bias against a certain gender.
www.coolnurse.com/sex_glossary/glossary_s.htm
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The first thing I notice is his shoes and then whether he's real or not. Ya know,when he's capable, keen, has a strength about him...



I notice shoes too. I have a thing for shoes, so if I like, I'm a little more excited.
I dont' think anyone has mentioned this yet, but I also notice eyebrows. I have a huge thing for eyebrows. I'm not saying they should be waxed and trimmed on a guy (that'd be awkward if they were better than mine), but if they are completely unruly, I'll just have the biggest desire to take care of them... lol.
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You post as many definitions as you want you little bullshitter. Never did I said I was sexist, you took my words and falsely misinterp
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No you didnt say you were sexist, I did. Based on the information you have provided. Feel free to take back any of the comments you have made that I have came to my conclusion from. If you do not wish to take any back, then I do not wish to change my opinion that you are indeed sexist. You seem to be a fan of definitions and a lot of your comments about women fit into most of the definitions I provided. Provide your own definitions if you do not like mine, your comments will still fit.
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You post as many definitions as you want you little bullshitter. Never did I said I was sexist, you took my words and falsely misinterp



No you didnt say you were sexist, I did. Based on the information you have provided. Feel free to take back any of the comments you have made that I have came to my conclusion from. If you do not wish to take any back, then I do not wish to change my opinion that you are indeed sexist. You seem to be a fan of definitions and a lot of your comments about women fit into most of the definitions I provided. Provide your own definitions if you do not like mine, your comments will still fit.



Assumptions how nice lol, grow up librasun.
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Not an assumption, it's my opinion. Which was backed up by the information YOU provided. I will take your response as you admitting im right 🙂

"no one respects a woman in power" - sexist
" all bitches needs to submit to the mighty dick..." - sexist
"I don't give a fuck what women thinks, they were never in power and they will never be in power." - sexist

Your comments are not only sexist but WRONG. Continue to live in fear. You say your a "lonely tiger" no wonder woman wont give you the time of day since you think so lowly of them!