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Well I hope so! I thought this site was for conversation about astrological relationships(etc.) not for WAR! Here is my situation and I am hoping to get some advice from any one who takes the time to respond. I am a Oct.31st born Male Scorpio and I just started dating a Libra Woman. Everything is going great and I find her to be both beautiful and smart! So by now you are asking yourself: "So what is the problem then?"> Well here goes, and I know that this is going to be unusual coming from a man, but, I am falling in LOVE with her too fast! In my past relationships I have been the last to say those three words but now I find myself ready to scream them from the roof tops! I am afraid that if I tell her how I feel, I will scare her away!
How do I slow this down, in my heart, so that I can let this run it's natural course? Thank you, in advance, for any advice you might offer.
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Hi Star!
Yes, I am feeling that she is the one. I have never met anyone like her before! She is independent, strong, smart, beautiful, kind, giving etc.(I could go on and on)! And I know I want to slow this down and get to know her better but I don't know how! I have never been so caught up in someone before! I am not even sure how she feel's about me yet. Is there a way to tell if she is having the same feelings that I am, without taking the risk of telling her how I am feeling and possibly scaring her away?
Thank you for the help.
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Dear Dre,

According to Linda Goodman, who is my favorite astrologer, you too have a very promising chance for having all you have ever dreamed of in a relationship...not that it will be perfect...
She recommends separate bank accounts...of course, that will come later...

It turns out the female Libra would like to hear those three words...perhaps not now...maybe you can plan something terribly romantic...give her a single rose and tell her that you really "like" or "care" for her...depending on the length of time you have been seeing her...if it has been long enough...go ahead and say "I love you"...I do not think it will scare her away, unless the time span has been quite short...
According to Linda Goodman (I have most of her books), Libran women feel their Scopian loves do not say "I love you" enough...(something to keep in mind...it is very important to them to hear those words especially when making love...)

Wishing you success!
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In getting to know her better...invite her to things in your area...anything...plays, museums, antique stores, anything that brings you together that she may find mentally stimulating...Libra women love that! But, it can be just window shopping and talking...
See her often and talk to her...
Be romantic...bring a single flower, smile a charming smile...
Give her a kiss she can't resist when the time is right...

I think you two will be fine together!

Best to You!
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Dear Dre,

I don't know about Deb or "unknown", but I am through with the fight! As far as I'm concerned, it is over! Anyway, it appears me and you have a lot in common with each other. Me and you were both born on October 31!!!! To make things even better, I was HAPPILY married to a Libra woman. First of all, tell her how you feel (Libras love that), make her feel special. A libra usually doesn't care if her mate brings her a present or not! If you say those 3 words and mean it from the heart, that's all she'll want. Now, she will want space! She may even flirt with a couple of other men, but don't get mad! If she says she loves you, then despite everything, you are in a real faithful relationship! The thing that helped me and my wife get along better was our rising sign. Mine is Aquarius (which gave me intellectuall freedom) hers was Cancer (which gave her emotional depth)!
I loved her very much and we had two beautiful, wonderfull girls! We had the best relationship I could've ever been in! I really miss her!
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Dear Dre,

I don't know about Deb or "unknown", but I am through with the fight! As far as I'm concerned, it is over! Anyway, it appears me and you have a lot in common with each other. Me and you were both born on October 31!!!! To make things even better, I was HAPPILY married to a Libra woman. First of all, tell her how you feel (Libras love that), make her feel special. A libra usually doesn't care if her mate brings her a present or not! If you say those 3 words and mean it from the heart, that's all she'll want. Now, she will want space! She may even flirt with a couple of other men, but don't get mad! If she says she loves you, then despite everything, you are in a real faithful relationship! The thing that helped me and my wife get along better was our rising sign. Mine is Aquarius (which gave me intellectuall freedom) hers was Cancer (which gave her emotional depth)!
I loved her very much and we had two beautiful, wonderfull girls! We had the best relationship I could've ever been in! I really miss her!
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Hi Star!
Thank you for your suggestions! I will be sure to follow them because, deep down, I am a hopeless romantic! Maybe you can help me further if I give you a little background: I met her 4 weeks ago, (out of town) and as it turns out, we live one city over from each other!We are also both in the medical field. We have seen one another often since our initial meeting and I have met her family and seen her in all of her enviroments! She truly captivates me and, like I said before, I have fallen hard! Do you feel that 4 weeks is enough time passed to display such strong feelings? I really do not want her to think that this is just an infatuation on my part (I do not feel that it is because I have loved before and I know the difference!)! Thank you for looking that up in your book, it makes me feel good to know that! And......
Thank you again for your time and attention, Star!
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Hi Carlos!
I am glad that the "WAR" is over for you! And would like to thank you for sharing your experience's with me. It sounds like you and your wife were very happy, may I ask what happened to the relationship that left you missing her?(forgive me if that is too personal!)
So we share a common birthdate! I will be 38 this year-are you near that mark?
I have no idea what a rising sign is. I actually came upon this site because the Libra I am dating told me about it and I thought I would give it a go! Tell me, do these rising signs make a difference in relationship outcomes? And how would I go about figuring out which applies to our birthdates?
Thank you, Carlos, for your reply. I could use all the help I can get my hands on!
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Hello Dre,

My wife died about a year ago of a massive heart attack. She left me and my two daughters (Whom are only in elementary school)! But I still love her to this day!!! There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about her! As for your rising sign, it does matter sometimes! Originally, a Scorpio and a Libra don't mix because of personality differences. That is where your rising sign kicks in. It helps you understand different signs. Ever met an Aries who was scary or a Libra who is combative? That is because of rising signs. It is what you are like on the outside! Go to astrology.com or astrologyzine.com to find your rising sign. You must know your exact time of birth! Well, see you later!
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Dear Dre,

I think if you are honest with her...say what you have said on this site and she will love your honesty and sweetness...
I think she will melt...

Linda Goodman did not say it would be perfect...but, the good outweighs the negative...
(Also, no relationship is perfect...)

My guy and I are also both in the Medical field and live about 45 miles away...we have the most absolute wonderful times together...but are also making the attempt to "take it slow" as we have both been hurt and divorced in the past...
I had our birth charts done by a friend in Hawaii as well as our compatibility charts...(Good news!!!)
For this you need time and place of birth as well as birth date...

For me...I can hold on loosely and enjoy the moments we share...but that could result from my extreme independence...

I wish you all the best!

(My Mom and my sister are Libra...by the way...both in happy relationships for years...you will have to make some compromises...they rule the roost somewhat....My Mom does it quietly, making it seem that it is my Dad who is in charge....my sister is very open about it, however, her husband just laughs it off. They seem very happy together....I have never known his sun sign though...my Dad is a Pisces.)
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Hello Star!
Once again, I thank you for your insight and well wishes! You are right...I need to tell her how I feel.
I am going over her house tonight to make her dinner, and I will "feel out" the right time to tell her! We had a conversation last night about "dating other people" and I asked her if she felt the need to-she replied that she is very happy right now, here with me and I make her smile like no other has in the past! I believe that is giving me the push I needed to be honest with her about my feelings!
Thank you, Star, for helping me to "see the light"! (no pun intended there!) Hopefully, the next time I write I will be wonderfully happy and not crying in my coffee (beer, etc.)!
Thanks,
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Hi Dre! Wow, sounds like you've really found someone special. ...and both in the medical field. I don't that much about this astrology stuff, but it looks like the stars are in the right position. It also sounds like you're a hopeless romantic. I, too, am a Scorpio and way on the lovey, dovey side. I agree with Star's comments above. A single rose, a walk in the park on a quiet day by some water (would be nice if there were ducks floating around!) I don't where you're from so I don't what the weather is like now, but what about a picnic (like maybe some really good cheese, crisp apple slices, crusty French bread, good wine)? I would love to give more advice, but you haven't said anything other than she's beautiful,smart, etc.
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Hello Scorpio Girl,
Thank you for your suggestions! The time is drawing near! And to be honest, I am scared to death!
To tell you a little more about her besides the beautiful and smart part:She is GREAT! She plays sports, plays the piano beautifully, writes poetry, comes from a huge close-knit family, has a zest for life,she laughs like a little girl but is the sexiest woman I have ever seen! When she walks into a room, all heads turn to look in her direction, but the funny thing is: she seems to be totally unaware of her effect on people! She is comfortable in her own skin, which is rare in someone her age (she is only 29)..and last but not least she has this way about her that she makes you feel that you are the most important thing in her universe (her family and friends simply adore her, as do I!) I have never heard her say a bad thing about anyone or anything, she simply looks for the good in every situation!
Tonight, I am making a nice salad and homemade spagetti with meatballs (my girl loves Italin food!)..nice wine and candlelight and then I am going to tell her how I feel! HELL, I would ask her to marry me right now but she is to sensible for that, this soon!I have lost all of my sensibilities when I look at her I feel every bit of myself, aching to hold her! I know I must sound like a DOPE!But it is how I feel!
Thank you for your well wishes and please cross your fingers(both hands!) that she does not run, screaming for the door, when I tell her!
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Dre,
Let me start me by saying that you don't sound like a DOPE! If a lot more people thought like you there might not be so much bullshit going on in this world. I, being a Scorp, am also married to a Scorp. His b-day is also Oct 31. I just wish he was as romantic as you. My husband does cook once in awhile, but it's never a romantic setting. Anyway, enough about me. Back to you. I think what you are doing is wonderful. Won't she be surprised! I just hope you took a single rose with you. One thing I forgot to mention in my last post was - what is the color of her eyes? Maybe you could find a cute, fuzzy, snuggly little stuffed critter to give to her and say something like" He's so cute I couldn't resist. He's the color of your eyes." Or better yet, find a rose or carnation the color of her eyes. Being the senseless romantic that I am, that would send my heart through the roof. About her quals, she sounds gutsy (sports), talented (piano..poetry), feminine (little girl..sexy, etc.), self-assured (comfortable, close family). Sounds like you found yourself a keeper, dude! You're gonna get this post after your evening, but I really hope you told her what you wanted to. I agree with Star that sometimes you can't just hold things back. If she's all that you say, I figure that she won't go running, screaming, for the door. I wish you the best. She's sounds delightful.
Best wishes,
Scorpio Girl
P.S. Let me know how things worked out. Maybe I'll need some advice from you regarding my husband!
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Hi Scorpio Girl!

How goes it with you? I have been doing the overtime thing...but, should have a wonderful vacation as a result! (Extra spending $ $ $ ).

Dear Carlos,

I, too, am sorry about your wife...I cannot imagine what that would be like...

In earlier posts didn't you indicate you were involved with an Aquarian woman...or perhaps that was not you...
If it wasn't, I apologize...

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To everyone,

Thanks for your concern! Star, I don''t have an Aquarian wife, that was my cousin. My wife is 100% Libra! It is hard for me but even harder for my daughters. My oldest is in the 5th grade and my youngest is in the 3rd! You know it has to be real hard, but everyone is trying their best to help me! I send them to my sister''s house in Atlanta in the summers. My wife''s two sisters, whom also live in Los Angeles, helps out a lot. But to Dre, don''t be scared of anything like commitment. When me and my wife were dating, she had a small heart attack then. The doctors told me that she was in serious risk of having a deadly heart attack one day. But guess what, I still married her and started a family! That was the life she always wanted and I wanted her. I guess you could say I saw the whole thing coming. But I don''t regret, to this day, marrying her!!!!! Now that''s love!!!
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Hi Ladies and Carlos!
It went well last night but a little differently than I has expected! I was really nervous and stalling quite a bit and she sensed that and like magic...she told me that she is in LOVE with me!!! I told her that I had been trying to get those very words out all evening!
It was GREAT and I am, by far, THE HAPPIEST MAN ON EARTH!!!!!
I would like to thank everyone for their help in this matter! I may need to call on you again, when a marriage proposal is in order! HAHAHA!
Thank you all!
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BRAVO! BRAVO! I'm so glad everything went so well. So cool that you took her the rose (aren't you the sweetest thing)!. How did she react to the supper? When I read "the happiest man on earth" in BIG bold letters (this last post), I knew that you've got to be for real. You sound wonderful, she sounds wonderful...ahhhhhh..what a love story! I'm anxious to know what the BIGGER surprise is that you mentioned. Keep posting. Best of luck!
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Hi,
I have been the rare confidant of many Scorpio men, and all my serious relationships have been with them. I'm a Scorpio lady too, and they seem to open up to me for some uncharacteristic reason!
Anyways, an astrologer once wrote an analysis that I found very correct--about Scorpio men fearing the loss of control when falling madly in love.
You are dealing with a very obsessive, vulnerable emotional nature that relies upon feeling some control as a matter of safety.
How overwhelming an intense love can be, and how open to pain and loss you are if things don't pan out! No one feels loss like a Scorpio.
Many years ago when I was still a young woman I met the great love of my life, another Scorpio. We even dreamt of each other before we met in person, many psychics have gotten chills when we are focusing on our love for each other, etc.
Anyways we destroyed this beautiful once in a lifetime gift with manipulation and head games due to our intense feelings for one another. That we could not handle.
So, eventually he just disappeared on me. One day there, one day gone. No explanation. Sure I could have gone after him. But I am a Scorpio lady so I thought "to heck with letting his mind games control ME!"
And maybe that was the best reaction at the time. Obviously we were not ready for each other.
Anyways as Fate would have it, we kept running into each other. Last time I had seen him in 8 years, a totally casual "accident" that he staged lol--he left again abruptly, visibly trembling as our feelings came to the surface.
But now he has come back a truly powerful force, he grabbed me back and turned my life upside down when I least expected it. He expressed so much guilt, sooo much guilt at how he treated me and all the time we lost.

So I pray that other women who have suffered through this kind of pain, can at least get an explanation if they cannot be so lucky as to have their Scorpio men ascend(even if its 14 years later!)

But he sure had to do some very very LONG, HARD work to earn my trust again after that vanishing act, like several years..and even then there is that 1% of skepticism in my scorpionic mind that will never forget his past actions.

Bottomline, only the lowly evolved let their loves pile up like a freeway accident--just imagine a long row of cars going 60 mph that rear end each other in the middle of a sudden fog. Same level of destruction. Who needs someone like that.

Find yourself a nice Libra or Cancer instead!LOL.
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Hi Star, Carlos and Scorpio Girl!
Once again, I would like to thank all of you for your wonderful advice and inspiration!
I went to see "My Love" last night and brought to her a giant teddie-bear (thanks SG for the Great idea) and around the teddie wrist I placed a diamond tennis bracelet. I felt an overwhelming need to show her how much I adore her (something more than words!).
I wasn't sure if this was a right move because I didn't want her to feel that I was trying to buy her love and she is a natural beauty-(jeans and tee's/very little jewelry or makeup) and I didn't want her to feel that I was trying to make her into something she is not! Maybe, I think too much! I think she really liked it, well she looked like she did!
I need to ask some more advice from you, if I could!? While at the jewelry store I saw a ring that I thought about getting for her, to propose with (of course-NOT RIGHT NOW-but rather- down the line) and I was thinking about purchasing it (it is a one of kind design by an artist-so if I don't purchase it-this ring may be sold to someone else...hence...my loss!) My question is, do women, in general, like to pick out their own engagement rings or do they leave it up to the guy? I know very little about jewelry but have some idea about diamonds, and this diamond is flawless! But is that what matters to a woman? or is it shape etc?
Thanks much again ladies and Carlos, for any help you can offer on this!
Hope everyone is good!
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Hi Dre!

BUY THAT RING, MAN! Once again, Bravo to you. Aren't you just the most romantic one? A teddy bear AND a tennis bracelet? I don't know about other gals, but I would like to be surprised like that! Are there any more like you out there? 'Course my husband may not like it that I'm asking this. Just kiddin', of course! I love him. I really think you should buy that ring...and give it to her soon (or rather..propose to her soon). She sounds wonderful..you sound wonderful..looks like a great future. Let me know what happens
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Hey Scorpio Girl!

You were on...vacation? If so, hope it was good! One thing I notice that I love about you...you usually agree with me!!!
On the serious side, you seem to have a level head and a good attitude...
I consider you a friend.
P.S. I kinda ignored that whole war thing against Aquarius...even though I am Aquarius, I felt it didn't involve me, so I stayed away...and had fun on the Cancer site...they are funny!

Dre,
I agree with Scorpio Girl...if that ring is one-of-a-kind...buy it!
You like it? It is beautiful and not gaudy? Then....buy it! Propose when the time is right...
I couldn't be happier for you two!

Wishing the Best of Everything to Come Your Way!

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Hi Star and Scorpio Girl!
Thanks for the ring advice! I did, in fact, purchase it! And, yes, it is a beautiful ring! I showed it the ladies at my office and they said it is truly beautiful -so-hopefully when the time is right, my love, will like it also! I was thinking of proposing to her on her birthday(which is October 16th) the only thing that I am not sure of is:this will be her 30th birthday, which she keeps refering to as "the BIG 3-0"! So I am not sure if this is a positive thing or a negative thing for a woman!? My 30th birthday came and went without my giving it a single thought, but is it different for women? If it is a negative birthday would proposing to her on that day make it a positive one? or will she be so depressed on that day that a marriage proposal will be unwelcome?
I am ready to propose to her, NOW, I know in my heart that she is the one that I want to spend the rest of my life with! I just need to make sure that the timing is right for her!
Thanks again ladies!
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Hi Dre,

I didn't give a lot of thought to my 30th birthday...but, you can't go by me...I was in labor and therefore, was given the most precious birthday gift....my Daughter!

I think you will do fine...and I think if you choose to propose on her birthday, it will be a positive thing for her...
I have heard some women say that they think it shouldn't be on Christmas, etc....as, they, for some reason don't want the ring to be their "gift"...but, I have always been the type of woman who was more interested in what is in the heart of my man rather than what is in his pockets and what he can buy me with it...know what I mean? I do not think you have a shallow girl here...I think it will be fine to propose on her birthday...
And remember...it is OK to be nervous...when a guy is TOO smooth, it makes a girl wonder if he says this kind of stuff to all the girls....

You are right to let her know how much she means to you...life is too short...

The Best To You Both!
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Good motning and hello to all! It is indeed a beautiful morning here. The sun's up, blue sky, birds singing, fresh breeze blowing, etc. Makes one feel like jumping up and clicking their heels.
Oh Dre, I so glad you purchased the ring. How exciting! I agree with Star. I think her birthday may be a good time to present it to her, BUT I also agree with Star about something else. It might be nice if you gave her some little "ditty" for her birthday, then pop the ring. That way the ring isn't a birthday gift, but rather a gift from the heart. Goodness, Oct 16th is just around the corner! I'm be anxiously awaiting the news!
Star, Thanks so much for the compliments. I guess it's just age that brings this wisdom. No, I haven't been on vacation. Just got a little tired with all the bulls--t that was going on. I almost felt like I was being attacked (and I didn't do anything). I kind of feel sorry for Carlos. He seems so sad and angry. But anyway, thank you for the words of friendship. If I can construe that to someone, then I've done well, I think. Anyway, I'm off to make breakfast for my granddaughters and then I think we heading off to the zoo. Whoopee!
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By the way - one more thing - about birthdays. I don't think, neccesarily that 30 means dread and gloom. I always remember thinking, as I was growing up, that 30 was middle aged. As I was approaching my 28th birthday, I started panicking (thinking good grief, I'm becoming my mother)! Then I took a really good look at her and realized that I was in the best time of my life. If I could just be one tiny bit of the person she is then all will be for the good. Dre, I think that her 30th birthday will be a extraordinary day!
Best of luck
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Hello Star and Scorpio Girl,
My apologies for the long absence, I have had a difficult time posting as of late.
An update on my situation: I have felt out the playing field and believe that the odds are in my favor for "My Love" to say YES when I propose to her on her Birthday! I hope I am right!!! I have made reservations at an Island resort near us (which she believes is a get-away/
birthday gift from me) and have set up dinner reservations at a wonderful restaurant near by! That is where I plan on proposing to her! But wonder if it is not romantic enough? Like I should hire a sky-writer or something! I want her to be swept of her feet! Again, I welcome any words of advice you can offer!
Dre