Hades & Persephone (long comparison)

you were warned lol

After telling my scorp that I'm going to be Anubis for one of my halloween costumes, he decided he wants me to make him Hades to have a little Greek God of the underworld vs. Egyptian God of the journey to the afterlife couples costumes.

Note: He knows little about astrology. Doesnt believe it. To him astrology is my silly thing that makes me a space cadet. Although, he is aware that his chart is riddled with scorpio placements. He prob doesnt even realize how compatible we are based on our charts.

As I've been shopping around for his outfit, I've been thinking of and exploring this association between the greek god and the sign of scorpio and the Hades-Persephone relationship.

I've only started reading about hades and persephone today and in my explorations, I've come to find that my man is already Hades and I his Persephone. And I draw the following comparisons both direct and thought provoking...

Hades: god of wealth and god of the dead. Both highly regarded and feared.
My scorp: extremely business and money savvy and well respected for it, but his pale blue green eyes can turn to fire when he's mad and I've seen him literally scare people. He has an intimidating aura when he's not relaxed and happy. Fortunately I can draw no comparisons to the god of the dead part other than the fact that he wants to be this particular god for halloween.

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Hades personality: a little cruel, unpitying, stern, just, inescapable.
My scorp: is very logical, very fair (will admit when he's wrong), likes to set rules, believes in punishment (yes especially with me it seems), will go through with all of his rules and repercussions even if uncomfortable.
This I'm sure sounds bad. In our relationship, under his lead, he and I have together set rules and boundaries at times. I know I've shared it on the boards. But he also likes to bestow small punishments for little things.

Example... I'm pretty friendly. I'm a touchy feely person. I mean nothing else than to create a friendly and warm dynamic when I do this and so I do this with both men AND women. If say I walked up to him and really wanted a kiss, he'd turn and say "No, you dont get a kiss for holding my friends arm after I told you I dont like that." ...little punishments like that. Very domineering guy. For me... I'm extremely amused by all of it, so I feign exasperation so I dont get "punished" more being caught giggling. Yes, I submit... but not 100% of th

re. "inescapable": When we're together... he's all over me. We've had arguments a few times where I wanted to go cool off and just peace out... he literally had me pinned down so I couldn't leave. We laugh at that point, so things get physical yes, but never ever violent... just slick and crafty.

re. "unpitying": Many times, after fair warnings and good advice, if I havent listened or heeded, he likes to say... "i have no sympathy for you" LOLOLOL!

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Hades and Persephone myth:
"Persephone was the young daughter of Zeus and Demeter. She was picking flowers one day on the plain of Enna. She pulled an especially beautiful narcissus. The earth then split open. Hades, ruler of the dead, came out of a gap in the earth and thundered up in his golden chariot pulled by four black horses. He grabbed the screaming girl and carried her down to the underworld. As Demeter searched for her daughter, her despair caused crops to die. Helios told her what he saw and Demeter became furious. She would not let anything be fertile until Persphone came back. Zeus could no longer let this go on so he sent Hermes to fetch Persephone.
Hades allowed Persephone to go back to her mother, even though he did not want her too. Before Hermes came to fetch her, he gave Persephone a pomegranate. When she ate the seeds of the delicious fruit she was then bound to the underworld forever. Demeter could do nothing about it. Persephone from then on spent 1/3 of the year in the Underworld with the King and her cold blooded husband, Hades. Eventually she began to love him more and more. Demeter spent the time that her daughter was gone sulking and would not let anything be fertile. This time is known as winter.
As Queen and Goddess of the Underworld, Persephone guided mortals who descended to the realm of the dead"

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My scorpio and me:
My birth month flower is the narcissus. Long before I knew that, the Poet's Narcissus has been my 2nd favorite flower.
My scorp and I fell for each other unexpectedly. It was in my eyes the most unlikely of all relationships to develop. While I liked hanging out with him after I'd met him, I honestly felt his life was beyond me. Fast, complex, higher profile and with a very non-vanilla sexuality. The sexuality I could handle, but in the context of a relationship I could never handle it and never wanted to handle it, so I never thought about him romantically. But in all of one month last Dec. he pursued me and suddenly I couldnt get him off my mind. He admitted he'd never felt so deeply and it had been almost a decade since he was a teenager that he felt nearly as strong. "It's really unique" I remember is how he described his feelings. The free spirit side of me is what caught his attention and I think what he felt fit into his life, or wanted to fit into his life. While we were dating, he referred to that part of me as my gift to him and that it meant a lot to him. So now I find myself in this relationship with a very dominant guy who's managed to mesh our lives together, almost enveloping mine with his. There are many moments that I'm completely content and happy and other's that I feel like I'm in over my head still and feel like I should jump ship and escape.

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(taken from a "Hearts and Minds: How Our Brains Are Hardwired for Relationships")
Hades relationship personalities: "In a Hades-Persephone relationship, the Hades partner forces the Persephone partner to change. He loves her without loving her present or past self. He sees her emerging new life stage and loves her for that, but without projecting his own issues onto her.
The Hades partner does two, contradictory actions:
Care about his partner more than cares about himself.
Do not what he's told, but what must be done.
Persephone relationship personality: Persephone is not weak by nature, she is seeking something greater than being the bringer of spring. She represents true change and deep psychological growth and requires restriction in order for it to be felt, integrated, sifted through and truly transformed. Letting go, allowing hades to shape her, mold her, seduce her, and take her into realms beyond her wildest mind is what allows her to renew and thus see and ACCEPT herself as she truly is."

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Our current relationship: For starters, he has made many physical changes for my comfort... home and personal/emotional. He has rearranged the relationship where I now have this space to focus on rebuilding my life, as I am going through a shit ton of change. More changing and growth than I can ever remember going through with a new home and new career. And it is very difficult both my personal change and the space. He definitely has made an impression in my life and the lack of his physical presence in it has been aweful for me. He admitted a few times that the space is very very difficult for him, but he's doing it because he knows that it will be good for me. I know it too, but it sucks. He is going through his own stuff too, arguably twice as difficult, but he is amazing at not putting the stress on me, though I obviously know whats going on and am pretty empathetic about it. He sometimes is easily irritable, but I'm very understanding in those moments and help in any way I can.
I'm not weak at all. I'm positive I come off as impressionable, but I'm admittedly a sleeper. I hide my cards, wait for others to reveal theirs to better play my own. I have never associated myself with spring. I dont really associate myself with any season. Not even the one I was born in. My birthday is just after the winter solstice, the crux of the earths tilt as the sun drops to the tropic of capricorn. Just after the shortest day and the beginning of longer days. A nice transitory time. Change is an ever recurring theme in my life and one that I understand, embrace and appreciate all too well... even as difficult as change is.
During the growth of our relationship so far, he has had a big hand in how my life has changed. He's been immensely supportive and offered so much guidance.

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(also taken from a "Hearts and Minds: How Our Brains Are Hardwired for Relationships")
"Persephone women need a strong man who has self mastery, who can also be a natural dominant so that they BOTH can transform. Any man that is "vanilla" or static in representation will die a needless death (divorce or abandonment) because he could not HANDLE her energy, her spiritual goal or her sexuality. There are many men who ACT DOMINATE who in their very nature are not TRUE dominants."
(taken from "Sextrology")
"With Hades, after all Kore, the goddess of spring, becomes crystallized into the goddess Persephone, queen of the underworld, a female carbon copy of her controllin

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..."With Hades, after all Kore, the goddess of spring, becomes crystallized into the goddess Persephone, queen of the underworld, a female carbon copy of her controlling hubby."

While dating, I've let go of guys who I knew I would easily, for lack of a better phrase, "walk all over", or who I felt I'd have to lead in the bedroom and align to my liking. I can lead, but in a relationship I dont want to be the only one with the passion and drive to direct the relationship. There's something about it that makes me feel lonely. I myself have a pretty strong character and a controlling streak. My scorp has been himself intimidated and more or less put in his place when I've let that side of me pop off.

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Hades and Persephone are portrayed as being the most faithful to one another than any of the other greek couples.
My scorp and I just had this discussion the other day... recognizing how very loyal we are to one another.

I know this was long, lol. Thanks for reading if you have made it thus far 😛

I was just thinking about this today and was kinda amazed out how similar my relationship is with what I've read about the hades/persephone dynamic.

also... i hope this pic posts... -_-



this is a painting i did a while ago... years. maybe 2 yrs before i met my scorp. the sides of it are cropped off in this pic, but it's my spin on a marble statue of Pluto and Proserpina (Hades and Persephone), by Bernini.

At the time I didnt even realize that Pluto/Hades, Proserpina/Persephone were the same characters essentially. In fact, I just read that today.

I'd changed the figures so that rather than pushing the guy away like in the marble statue, the girl is holding him. kind of pulling his head into her bosom. It's an unfinished piece. originally the guy was oriented more towards the center of the painting, but i changed him so he's more to the left.

i havent yet moved his left arm... the arm to the right and SO... when people look at that painting they think there's some sort of threesome or orgy going on. LOL

A couple friends said the guy resembles my scorp and the girl's bod could be mine.

Here's the statue...

Arielle :\ Sorry to hear that... gawd. I hope he hasnt been and wont be in for long. Distance is sooo tough.

exo... yea, i went a lil crazy *smh* ... basically to prove i'm a masochist 😛 glad you like the painting! thank you 🙂

capgirl75, it's a weird balance right? i like very dominant men, but i will grow impatient pretty quickly when bossed if I feel my desire to be helpful is being abused. and i'm ok with control as long as my best interests are at least equal to his.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! 🙂

capgirl LOL scorps just know how to wield that two letter word like none other 😉 how are things going with him? 🙂


I wish I had dxp medals to give to all of you who made it through my lil novella here lol thanks for enjoying zen!

It was long indeed, at least you warned us on the subject line, no surprise here. An interesting story, I remember writing about Hades in college, we had to read two books called Gods in Every Man and Goddesses in Every Woman and we had to write on which archetype we related to the most. I still have the books somewhere actually, you got me wanting to read them again. At the time I didn't know astrology and I wonder what reading it now would do. All the connections I can make now. Life is a beautiful thing!

i know my comparison wasnt even that great. lol

"Hearts and Minds: How Our Brains Are Hardwired for Relationships" does the same thing... takes a few of the mythic characters and archetypes the relationships.

It is very interesting. I'm going to look up the book you mentioned too.

Funny... I was just thinking today... there are patterns in everything.