In Love With an Amazing Scorpio Lady Need Advice

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For those that can interpret charts:

Me Leo 8/21/1985 8:16am Birthplace: Grand Forks, North Dakota
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?member=&recalc=&name=Andy&sex=t&d1day=21&d1month=8&d1year=1985&d1hour=8&d1min=16&adjust=6&citylist=Grand+Forks% 2C+ND+% 2838% 29% 2C+United+States&lang=en

My Scorpio 10/30/1985 11:43am Birthplace: Omaha, Nebraska
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?member=&recalc=&name=Nicki&sex=f&d1day=30&d1month=10&d1year=1985&d1hour=11&d1min=43&adjust=6&citylist=Omaha% 2C+NB+% 2831% 29% 2C+United+States&lang=en

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Preface:
I'm a sweet Leo who is in love with an amazing Scorpio lady. She really is something else. I love the way she lights up a room with her smile and her passionate charisma. We are both serious musicians and I am in heaven every time she sings for me. I truly respect her and she makes me want to be a better person. I could swoon some more but I desperately need your help. I will describe my situation the best I can and open up myself to the best advice you Scorpios can possibly give me. This Lion would offer his kingdom just to make her his queen...

So we met on a dating site 5 years ago...In short, we had some great lengthy phone conversations and met up for sushi for our first date. My first memory of her I will never forget. I was so nervous showing up to the restaurant and she had waited in the parking lot in her jeep, got out when she saw me approach, and with a big smile from ear to ear, her face lit up and we embraced as she said, "Hi!". It was right then, she instantly put me at ease. I was nervous because sometimes I worry about not having the same chemistry face-to-face as you did when you were on the phone. So we hit it off right away and eventually she invited me back to her apartment. We cuddled on the couch watching movies and I nervously tried to draw near and kiss her on the cheek when she said, "If you're gonna kiss me, then KISS me!" I laughed and we made out for a good 20 minutes. She straddled me and it was such a rush. I had never got this turned on by just kissing. Eventually she stopped it and said, "That's as far as it goes tonight". I kissed her goodnight and left thinking I had a fantastic first date, but she never called me after that. She gradually stopped texting me and eventually I gave up on her because it was too painful.

(Continued...)
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Part 2 (names have been replaced with signs hehe):

I never forgave myself after that first date. I know that us fire signs tend to move too fast physically/emotionally for other signs and I thought that maybe I had gave her the impression that I only wanted her for sex. Honestly, touch is my love language and if I'm really feeling it for you, I'm going to express it. In hindsight, maybe it was a bit much for a first date, but I never forgot that Scorpio intensity!!

So fast-foward over a year. I decide to attempt to reconnect with her. She is an aspiring singer and I messaged:
"Hey Scorpio, I'm glad things have been looking up for you in your music career. I would love to hear you sing sometime! We should get in touch. Here is my #"

She replied with:
"Hey Leo! It's great to hear from you! I'm glad you and your band are still playing together. We should definitely get in touch and maybe have a jam session or something!"

Now the big problem I have with her is she will usually quickly reply to my texts but ALMOST NEVER picks up her phone.
She has always kept me at arm's length for whatever reason and when it finally comes down to hanging out, she will respectfully apologize for cancelling stating she had forgotten about previous engagements and will usually opt to reschedule (which I admire but still disappointed). My friends tell me if she didn't care, she would just completely blow me off and I understand that wisdom.

With that paragraph in mind here are some of her texts over the years since our first date:

1/8/2011: "Hey Leo! Thanks for the comments on my music!! It has been a while, we need to get together! When are you free??! I'm at # just in case you forgotted. Talk to you soon!"

1/18/2012: "Hey Leo! I'm glad to hear from you-I actually just thought about you the other day wondering what you were up to. Congrats on the new job! I hope all is well with you. I'm working at my new job and I love it. Much less stress lol. We should definitely arrange a time to get together and do music. I really hope things are going great for you! My number is also the same"

4/3/2012: "Hey Leo! I've got stuff going on Saturday and Sunday but Thursday and Friday evening are free! Let me know what works best for you!"

6/17/2012 Leo: "Sure do miss you rockstar! Hope you don't mind me calling you that. It's just that I'm one of your big fans.... ~_^"

6/17/2012 Scorpio: "That's fine lol! We gotta get together and do music stuff"

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Let me give you some additional background info which is also important. I greatly appreciate your patience if you have read this far:

She lost her father 8 years ago back in high school. He was killed when a lady who wasn't paying attention ran him over as he was crossing a country road. She has been SINGLE FOR 6+ YEARS now and claims that last relationship was the only time she was in love. She does have the typical Scorpio trust issues but she has never completely shut me out. Just kept me at a distance. I wonder if it could be because she's afraid of losing someone she loves.

She was in a SERIOUS car accident back in April of this year and it REALLY shook me. I had long-since given up on her, dated 3 other women over the years, and thought I was over her. But when I realized that I could have lost her, all these deep feelings for her resurfaced. She seems more receptive to my texts and flirty behavior. Maybe we are older and slightly wiser, maybe she is lonely.

So when she told me she was going to be playing a show of 60s covers with her late father's old band, I told her I was going to make the 60 mile drive to come up and see her sing. She said, "Oh you don't have to come...I'm not feeling my best and there will be other shows". I insisted, "I want to come see you sing! I wouldn't miss it for the world." When I finally got there, I noticed she was sitting in the back row of the music hall, close to her family, getting ready to run up to the stage to sing her set. I slipped in the back of the room unnoticed as I didn't want to disturb her and I was feeling abit cowardly in approaching her whole family. When she had finished her set with the band and saw me in the audience, she came back to where I was standing and gave me a big warm hug. She asked me if I wanted to meet her family and I said, "Sure!".

If I know anything about water signs, it's they are DEFINITELY family-oriented. Is it a sign of trust that she introduced me to her family? More impressive is the manner in which it happened. When she introduced me to her mom, I was rolling in catknip because she said, "He's an amazing guitarist". Her mom said, "So this is the guy you've been telling me about". I love her family. They just give off that warm, loving vibe and it's something I've have wanted for so long in a mate. Most of my past girlfriends came from broken homes with single parents for whatever reason.

In typical Leo fashion, I declared my feelings i
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(Continued...)

In typical Leo fashion, I declared my feelings in grand style but with a subtle twist seeing as she's a Scorpio. After a week's worth of writing and practicing, I wrote a beautiful piano instrumental for her and sent it in an e-mail entitled "A Melody For You". I said in the e-mail:
"You know what my favorite thing about music is? It expresses emotion better than words ever could.
You were on my mind today when this pretty melody came to me and I'd like to share it with you ~_^ Hope you're feeling better from your cold!"

She also drove the 60 miles to come see me even though she had never made the trip by herself and has a bad sense of direction. We finally jammed and made beautiful music together (we kept it P.G. haha). We had a slightly ackward hug though at the end and I really wanted to kiss her but maybe she knew I would try haha! I texted her "Did you get home safe hun?" and she said, "Yes!". I've been testing her with dropping the word "hun" into my messages once in a while and she doesn't seem to mind; even though we aren't technically together.

She has since kept up the replies to my texting but still never picks up her phone. I simply do not know what to do to break out of this holding pattern and I need the best advice you can give me!

1) What are some strengths I should play into as a Leo
2) What are some needs I need to fulfill with her being a female Scorpio
3) Above all, how do I gain her trust and respect and progress this to the next level??
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I do appreciate the patience of all who read this and try to help me out. My heart has been aching for quite some time and I have been wanting to post this for awhile now. I know I rushed it and I may sound incoherent, but it was daunting trying to sum up the last 5 years. I titled that piano piece I wrote for her, "Second Chances" because that's really how I see the recent chain of events this year. The melody is sad, beautiful, but hopeful, and it came directly from my soul. I want to be the man that brings her out of her shell and treats her how she deserves to be treated. I try to make her feel special because she is =)
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I was reading an old post on the Scorpio forum about how you Scorpio ladies love a guy who is persistent and demonstrated DEVOTION over time. Correct me if I'm wrong but Scorpios don't seem like the one-night stand, move quickly sort of lover. They need emotional depth. Is it not unusual for Scorpio women to need to know you for a very long period of time before coming romantically involved? I've expressed my frustration with the lukewarm connection between us and I get depressed when I read things like, "You KNOW when a Scorpio woman wants you. There is no doubt about it". If she hasn't formally and directly rejected me, should I take that as "Keep trying Leo, you just need to prove I can trust you".
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
You had a first date and she "claimed" you with a kiss so what happened after that? How did it go from intensity to you now wondering if you are even in a relationship?

You said you thought you moved too fast, but didn't she ask you to kiss her? Something dropped off after this and I'm not sure what.

Does she have obligations with family or work or something that take up a lot of her time?



I honestly don't understand why I didn't get a second date. I told her about a year and a half later (when I tried to reconnect with her after giving her space and also having another relationship) that my intentions were not purely sexual, I truly did have feelings for her, and I had been so hard on myself about it. She said, "That (the kissing) should have never happened..." and she proceded in a very convoluted way to let me down easy. My best intuition tells me that she may have still been hungup on her ex. But the fact that she has kept in touch with me all this time has to count for something right? Hmmmm

As for her being busy, she is VERY close to her family and hangs out with her mom and younger sister often. She has a very tight group of about 6-8 female friends from highschool that she does everything with. Another key thing to note is she never seems to have any male figures in her life chasing after her from what I can tell. Also, few male friends. Which is good honestly, because I hate competition and I feel like it distracts a person from truly getting to know you.
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Posted by ArticleL
Claim your woman you piece of crap if I was there id push you two heads together so you could kiss again and again buy you rings then marry you me damm self. This story is sweet but 5 years is to long your heart aches go get your heart medicine. Your woman.



HAHA!! Thanks for the tuff luv....The last two sentences made me smile and I started thinking of her again =)

I'm gonna relay what I sent to the Lioness =):

I'm not a coward anymore as far as declaring my feelings goes. You're right, we Leo men/women love to chase. Perhaps I can extend that to all fire signs. We see it, we want it, we're gonna make it happen!! I'm just afraid of scaring her off. I have read that pursuing a Scorpio woman is a patient courtship and regardless of if it is, this is teaching me to slow down, take the time to truly get to know a woman, and establish a solid emotional connection.

The biggest problem I'm running into right now is the disconnect. I am unable to say the things that NEED TO BE SAID IN-PERSON because she is simply unable/unwilling (can't decide which one it is) to meet up with me on a regular basis. Perhaps a laundry list of her mixed signals would be easier:

1) Always replies to my texts within several hours if not within the hour
2) Almost never initiates a text message to me
3) NEVER calls me unless she has to (Ex: Enroute to see me and needs directions)
4) Often "Likes" my Facebook statuses
5) Eventually replies to my Facebook private messages with full/detailed responses

I am torn between giving her some sort of ultimatum and really laying down what this is doing to me
OR
Letting it play out naturally, showing her my patience/devotion, and "keeping my cool"

Despite how therapeutic it is to get something off my chest, I have rarely if ever seen the ultimatum tactic work with a woman. It places pressure on her no matter how skillfully you phrase it.

So given our charts, which route would be most effective with her?
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Posted by ArticleL
Claim your woman you piece of crap if I was there id push you two heads together so you could kiss again and again buy you rings then marry you me damm self. This story is sweet but 5 years is to long your heart aches go get your heart medicine. Your woman.



1) Always replies to my texts within several hours if not within the hour
2) Almost never initiates a text message to me
3) NEVER calls me unless she has to (Ex: Enroute to see me and needs directions)
4) Often "Likes" my Facebook statuses
5) Eventually replies to my Facebook private messages with full/detailed responses

I am torn between giving her some sort of ultimatum and really laying down what this is doing to me
OR
Letting it play out naturally, showing her my patience/devotion, and "keeping my cool"
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These are called choices pick one as positions and relationships, sexually sometimes we can get stuck in one position because we like/grow used to it. Switch your stroke.