My wonderful gorgeous scorpio husband felt neglected after the birth of out child 4 years ago, unbeknownst to me (he kept it in), and is now 'fed up' and wants out. He wants to stay friends, says he loves me but he's no longer in love with me, and wants to live a different life now, and feels his needs/wants in lif have changed. He put his scorpio walls up to me, and I'm at a loss. I'm flat out in love with my scorpio, but the walls are up. And he's not talking, and I'm too scared to talk, so we both just avaoid the subject. He said he wants to remain friends, and I'm 'pretending' to be friends, but I dont know WHAT to do to get my old loving scorpio back. I've given him all the space and time he needs (4 months out the house) to do what he's gotta do. Had the patience of a saint, and been loving and kind to him.Only reaction I've seen is him getting more comfortable around me, but still walled up.... What do I do now?
My AWOL Scorpio Husband...HELP!

He most possibly has someone else in his life. Would you be OK with that?

It is sad to see that men can get weird like that after their child's birth. They feel neglected, for we truly neglect them...
Hard to predict someone elses actions. However, if I were to predict from a Scorpios point of view, assuming he does have a fling in his life, and let's say things don't work out for them (your hubby and female friend), then he will run back to you, because partners are always a part of us. That is why he offered you friendship. We usually don't stay friends with our exes.
I hope things work out for you, pie. But I suspect, he had this 'thing' going on possibly for more than 2 years. So it's hard to tell if he will be back.
Hard to predict someone elses actions. However, if I were to predict from a Scorpios point of view, assuming he does have a fling in his life, and let's say things don't work out for them (your hubby and female friend), then he will run back to you, because partners are always a part of us. That is why he offered you friendship. We usually don't stay friends with our exes.
I hope things work out for you, pie. But I suspect, he had this 'thing' going on possibly for more than 2 years. So it's hard to tell if he will be back.
What is your sign ?if you are pisces or scorpio then you deserve to be like that. And if you are other sign then kick him on his ass.

Let-it-be ... sorry, didn't mean to include specifically You into the 'we' category, but in general, women feel very protective about their newborns. Sorry for saying 'we' but we do not particularly feel sexual after giving birth. This is not our fault, it is physiological that we are also having physical changes in our bodies. The guy, who had ALL the attention before, will feel neglected. If you dress sexy, cook the best food, or look after your home the best possible way... doesn't change the fact that our LOVE gets divided.
lovelibra -- I think your comment on of, if she is Pisces or Scorpio and her being deserving of her husband leaving her, is a mean and stupid one.
Perhaps that is one of many reasons why I cannot stand Libras.
lovelibra -- I think your comment on of, if she is Pisces or Scorpio and her being deserving of her husband leaving her, is a mean and stupid one.
Perhaps that is one of many reasons why I cannot stand Libras.

rather than NEGLECT in itself, Sex means a lot to me. I feel being-in-LOVE through Sexual expression. If Sex is taken away from a relationship, then for ME -- as A SCORPIO -- I feel unloved!
A platonic relationship is unreal to me. I lived a number of years without sex with my ex husband (Virgo) and to me, the concept of MARRIAGE ends there...
we can be friends
we can be like room mates
but we cannot be husband and wife
unless
he has a very valid reason that is physical. Then I would stick with him through thick and thin... because being-in-LOVE will continue in my mind.
A platonic relationship is unreal to me. I lived a number of years without sex with my ex husband (Virgo) and to me, the concept of MARRIAGE ends there...
we can be friends
we can be like room mates
but we cannot be husband and wife
unless
he has a very valid reason that is physical. Then I would stick with him through thick and thin... because being-in-LOVE will continue in my mind.
"Astrologically, Scorpio mates are said to be loyal to the death..."
Idk about all that.. that's what astrology says but at one point or another I have questioned every Scorpio in my life or who was in my life. I think they will be loyal later on after you passed all the tests but even then they will only tell you what they want you to know as well, they still don't always tell you the full truth vs other signs. I think the loyalty is more about the females than the males, and I don't have any grudges but I know both genders and they can transform and think they needed to let you go or take you out of the equation only to be back later. I know they also get bored with relationships, I find the men seem to like the chasing phase, get to know each other, courting, but once they actually get the relationship after awhile they don't want it anymore. Of course it doesn't apply to all cause I do know some who won't/don't leave their mates and still fuck the whole town.
All I can say is do fight for your relationship and show him you love him and care. If it's not reciprocated then just let it be and show him you can live with out him.
Idk about all that.. that's what astrology says but at one point or another I have questioned every Scorpio in my life or who was in my life. I think they will be loyal later on after you passed all the tests but even then they will only tell you what they want you to know as well, they still don't always tell you the full truth vs other signs. I think the loyalty is more about the females than the males, and I don't have any grudges but I know both genders and they can transform and think they needed to let you go or take you out of the equation only to be back later. I know they also get bored with relationships, I find the men seem to like the chasing phase, get to know each other, courting, but once they actually get the relationship after awhile they don't want it anymore. Of course it doesn't apply to all cause I do know some who won't/don't leave their mates and still fuck the whole town.
All I can say is do fight for your relationship and show him you love him and care. If it's not reciprocated then just let it be and show him you can live with out him.

Let-it-be
Yes I'm a Scorp. I see you are one too, but let me remind you, YOU are not a SCORPIO man!
So don't feel too offended about my views...
Yes I'm a Scorp. I see you are one too, but let me remind you, YOU are not a SCORPIO man!
So don't feel too offended about my views...

they probably don't leave their mates because of their sense to DUTY or if they are economically stuck in a relationship.
Times are changing ladies... guys have it waaay too easy nowadays to find someone else and there are women who have no moral obligations and would promise the married guy to be better than his wife. BECAUSE... while she is busy with domestic obligations and bringing up his child and trying to make a family, HE feels neglected not getting (enough) or not-at-all sex. Then this woman comes along who has none of those obligations aside from dating him and prettying herself up for him.
Excuses are easy to find...
when the other woman kicks him out, he will be back. Good thing about scorpio, WE are honest! to a point.. that he moved out, so it didn't feel like cheating.
Again. I don't know if he has someone else, but I could bet upon.
Times are changing ladies... guys have it waaay too easy nowadays to find someone else and there are women who have no moral obligations and would promise the married guy to be better than his wife. BECAUSE... while she is busy with domestic obligations and bringing up his child and trying to make a family, HE feels neglected not getting (enough) or not-at-all sex. Then this woman comes along who has none of those obligations aside from dating him and prettying herself up for him.
Excuses are easy to find...
when the other woman kicks him out, he will be back. Good thing about scorpio, WE are honest! to a point.. that he moved out, so it didn't feel like cheating.
Again. I don't know if he has someone else, but I could bet upon.
He sounds like a bigger baby then the four-year-old to me. I'm sorry you've been abandoned like this. If it were me, I would remain cordial for the sake of the child, but friends? Hell no! If you don't cut him off, only excepting occasions when you need to speak to him regarding your child, this could go on forever. And you'll never be able to move on and find a real man. I understand you are still in love with him, but even if he did come back, how would you ever feel safe and stable with him again if he is so undependable? How would you ever trust him again?
Just my .02. Good luck, dear.
Just my .02. Good luck, dear.

Posted by Let*It*Be
"YOU are not a SCORPIO man!
So don't feel too offended about my views..."
Aw gee fumi, thanks for reminding me. Penis or Vagina...Scorps just don't walk for something they can't fight for. I'm not offended of your views at all, I just don't like being included in the "we women" bullshit, let alone the ludicrous assumptions you are implying here.
LOL ..oh well... let me apologize again for unintentionally offending you..
should I be walking on egg shells when posting? I don't see this place as a Scientific forum that every single word I use is reason to be carefully analyzed and then thrown back at me. My views are based on experience and generalization without evidence for current/future outcomes.
The guy wouldn't leave her wife claiming he is being NEGLECTED, but then, decides to live all by himself, ALONE?
Anyway... I feel sorry for Pie and I wish her well.

LovelyScorp -- that's a very sad story 😢

Posted by Madalena
so yea...WHAT DID U DO TO MAKE HIM RUN—
if the answer is truly nothing then..sorry hon, the man wasnt in love...and he's a jerk...all u can do now is let him go, pick up the pieces and live ur life
good luck
^you're a taurus right? that's exactly what i was thinking. not sure if this is true for all tau outlooks but when things go wrong in a relationship, before pointing a finger, take a look in the mirror.
i agree with the others that your child wasn't what drove him away. that's what he may have told you, what you think, but that alone is not enough to warrant a retreat.
also if scorp is anything like tau is in the loyalty department (they are), calling it quits, going cold means they're at the point of no return. fixed signs are full steam ahead in one direction or the other...no in-between. so on an astro-level, i'd start coming to terms with the finality of your marriage.
on a "real people" level, you have to begin examining what's at the root of his departure. if you resign yourself to believing it was your having given birth or focusing on your child, that sounds more like your interpretation of his resentment, not his own. but let's say it was childbirth....
if he was brooding due to neglect, you admittedly saw him brooding and now that he's on his way out you're finally concerned about his feelings— his inability to express his needs was a problem but IF you instinctively knew that you needed to stroke his ego more and didn't, wow, what a witch!
or he could just be a bastard 😉

i think she's lying about being unaware personally. four years of someone pulling away and her not having a clue?
she's either stupid or in denial.
she's either stupid or in denial.
Hi- sorry to not be more clear. I think he was upset that he felt he was always the one initiating sex, I had low sex drive due to post natal depression and just exhaustion of looking after a child basically on my own. I have explained this to him, but it doesnt seem to have changed anything. He seemed to give a million reasons for leaving, but I think he was trying to 'convince' himslef it was the right thing to do in doing so. The inital speech : He felt lost and directionless, he said we married too young and have a freindship not a marriage, he feels he has changed and I've stayed the same, he feels I deserve better, we will be happier apart than together. He has also just managed to make a success of his business (years in the making), and got a little power/ego trip going when all this came to a head. Bought an expensive bi luxury car, a boat, started doing all the things he used to do as a teenager (socialising, waterskiiing,hiking), almost like he reverted to the life he lived long ago. Some say it might me a midlife crisis, but men are usually insane when they are having a crisis, and he seems to know exactly what hes doing 😢
This really was all out of the blue, he never menationed any unhappiness to me, but I did mention my unhappiness to him, in that he didnt spend any time with me and son after he was born, only on his hobbies and business.
This also all after hes been taking alot of overseas trips. There might be another lady involved, I'm not niave, but knowing he's one that has always said he scowls at men/woman who have affairs andthat its completely unacceptable (has always made this clear for 12 years I've known him), i find it hard to imagine. But it might be. No way I'll know unless it slips out.
Anyway , just not sure how to proceed. He doesnt seem to want to bring up the relationship. He's acting as if we are just friends now, and it kills me.
I would have stayed with this man forever, and NEVER in my wildest dreams think he was the type to walk away, hes always been the loyal/family/committed type, from a very moral catholic background.
He wasn even interested in trying to fix anything. He was determined that it was done, but that being said , he's procrastinating with divorce, I think becuase he knows morally it will kill im and his parents. Especially his dad, who has string tie emotionally to, and the dad is VERY catholic and family orientated.
next post.....
This really was all out of the blue, he never menationed any unhappiness to me, but I did mention my unhappiness to him, in that he didnt spend any time with me and son after he was born, only on his hobbies and business.
This also all after hes been taking alot of overseas trips. There might be another lady involved, I'm not niave, but knowing he's one that has always said he scowls at men/woman who have affairs andthat its completely unacceptable (has always made this clear for 12 years I've known him), i find it hard to imagine. But it might be. No way I'll know unless it slips out.
Anyway , just not sure how to proceed. He doesnt seem to want to bring up the relationship. He's acting as if we are just friends now, and it kills me.
I would have stayed with this man forever, and NEVER in my wildest dreams think he was the type to walk away, hes always been the loyal/family/committed type, from a very moral catholic background.
He wasn even interested in trying to fix anything. He was determined that it was done, but that being said , he's procrastinating with divorce, I think becuase he knows morally it will kill im and his parents. Especially his dad, who has string tie emotionally to, and the dad is VERY catholic and family orientated.
next post.....
Hi- sorry to not be more clear. I think he was upset that he felt he was always the one initiating sex, I had low sex drive due to post natal depression and just exhaustion of looking after a child basically on my own. I have explained this to him, but it doesnt seem to have changed anything. He seemed to give a million reasons for leaving, but I think he was trying to 'convince' himslef it was the right thing to do in doing so. The inital speech : He felt lost and directionless, he said we married too young and have a freindship not a marriage, he feels he has changed and I've stayed the same, he feels I deserve better, we will be happier apart than together. He has also just managed to make a success of his business (years in the making), and got a little power/ego trip going when all this came to a head. Bought an expensive bi luxury car, a boat, started doing all the things he used to do as a teenager (socialising, waterskiiing,hiking), almost like he reverted to the life he lived long ago. Some say it might me a midlife crisis, but men are usually insane when they are having a crisis, and he seems to know exactly what hes doing 😢
This really was all out of the blue, he never menationed any unhappiness to me, but I did mention my unhappiness to him, in that he didnt spend any time with me and son after he was born, only on his hobbies and business.
This also all after hes been taking alot of overseas trips. There might be another lady involved, I'm not niave, but knowing he's one that has always said he scowls at men/woman who have affairs andthat its completely unacceptable (has always made this clear for 12 years I've known him), i find it hard to imagine. But it might be. No way I'll know unless it slips out.
Anyway , just not sure how to proceed. He doesnt seem to want to bring up the relationship. He's acting as if we are just friends now, and it kills me.
I would have stayed with this man forever, and NEVER in my wildest dreams think he was the type to walk away, hes always been the loyal/family/committed type, from a very moral catholic background.
He wasn even interested in trying to fix anything. He was determined that it was done, but that being said , he's procrastinating with divorce, I think becuase he knows morally it will kill im and his parents. Especially his dad, who has string tie emotionally to, and the dad is VERY catholic and family orientated.
next post.....
This really was all out of the blue, he never menationed any unhappiness to me, but I did mention my unhappiness to him, in that he didnt spend any time with me and son after he was born, only on his hobbies and business.
This also all after hes been taking alot of overseas trips. There might be another lady involved, I'm not niave, but knowing he's one that has always said he scowls at men/woman who have affairs andthat its completely unacceptable (has always made this clear for 12 years I've known him), i find it hard to imagine. But it might be. No way I'll know unless it slips out.
Anyway , just not sure how to proceed. He doesnt seem to want to bring up the relationship. He's acting as if we are just friends now, and it kills me.
I would have stayed with this man forever, and NEVER in my wildest dreams think he was the type to walk away, hes always been the loyal/family/committed type, from a very moral catholic background.
He wasn even interested in trying to fix anything. He was determined that it was done, but that being said , he's procrastinating with divorce, I think becuase he knows morally it will kill im and his parents. Especially his dad, who has string tie emotionally to, and the dad is VERY catholic and family orientated.
next post.....
He has also become unbelievably ambitious over the past four years, very driven and career focused on this new business and furthering himself in his career, determined to make it to the top, no matter the cost, and have the title of CEO or MD (wanted respect from society for this), which he finally did,and I got the speech about 2 months after. I almost felt used.
At this point it was clear he wanted respect from everyone for getting where he got, including me.
He said I never supported him, but truth is he spent so much time on the business I started feeling negleted and told him so, he just saw it as a threat and my being unsupportive.
He agreed that I was family focussed and he had become career driven. And that I deserved better...
Can a scorpio really change his colours from devout family man to money driven mad man?
At this point it was clear he wanted respect from everyone for getting where he got, including me.
He said I never supported him, but truth is he spent so much time on the business I started feeling negleted and told him so, he just saw it as a threat and my being unsupportive.
He agreed that I was family focussed and he had become career driven. And that I deserved better...
Can a scorpio really change his colours from devout family man to money driven mad man?
Or maybe I forced him into madman mode? HELP!!!! So confused!!!!
Also forget to say - think he eventually got fed up from feeling guilt everytime he went overseas (knew it made me sad) and did his hobbies (didnt spend very much time with me and son). Didnt really see anything from my point of view, although I tried to see it from his, and didnt give him grief about things, or try overly to show that it hurt me, but he 'felt' my hurt I think.
Fulfilling desires needs and wants....isnt it a bit selfish to NOT try KEEP your loved one while aspiring to your desires needs and wants, ie work on a balance work/home ? We had no balance. Is this just a male thing in general then? Ie if I meet a male I should ask is he has fulfilled all his dreams, else I'm not interested?

Mid-life crisis?
12 years?
Is this your first/only child?
Many things crosses the mind when reading this.
1. Scorpios are extremely devoted to their children. You fail to mention anything about his relationship with child, only to you ... are you self-absorbed? Scorpios are attached to their offspring, very possessive and protective of them, generally speaking of course, certainly every sign has their share of chucklefucks .... and no mention of his relationship with this child.
I find that very odd ...
2. You say you had no clue about his drifting away from you, eventhough it had been happening for four years .. and I say ... could you be any more self-absorbed? How the hell could a person NOT know their significant other has severed the emotional ties?
Are you a Virgo? Because they are notorious for not knowing what they should know about their partners emotional well being.
And that not knowing, in itself ...... is WHY he left you.
Take that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to the bank. The fact that you did not know him deep enough emotionally to know that he could drift away IS the reason he drifted.
It's not about money, it's not about another woman, it's not about career .. it is about you not being emotionally aware of him that he could pull away for 4 years and you are surprised.
12 years?
Is this your first/only child?
Many things crosses the mind when reading this.
1. Scorpios are extremely devoted to their children. You fail to mention anything about his relationship with child, only to you ... are you self-absorbed? Scorpios are attached to their offspring, very possessive and protective of them, generally speaking of course, certainly every sign has their share of chucklefucks .... and no mention of his relationship with this child.
I find that very odd ...
2. You say you had no clue about his drifting away from you, eventhough it had been happening for four years .. and I say ... could you be any more self-absorbed? How the hell could a person NOT know their significant other has severed the emotional ties?
Are you a Virgo? Because they are notorious for not knowing what they should know about their partners emotional well being.
And that not knowing, in itself ...... is WHY he left you.
Take that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to the bank. The fact that you did not know him deep enough emotionally to know that he could drift away IS the reason he drifted.
It's not about money, it's not about another woman, it's not about career .. it is about you not being emotionally aware of him that he could pull away for 4 years and you are surprised.

what is her sign?

Posted by pie
This really was all out of the blue, he never menationed any unhappiness to me, but I did mention my unhappiness to him, in that he didnt spend any time with me and son after he was born, only on his hobbies and business.
Kind of like that ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You didn't know. And btw, you don't have to tell him, he is a Scorpio, my dear = he already knows what you feel because he can read you emotionally. Something you are unable to do with him which is the reason for ......
Posted by pie
He wasn even interested in trying to fix anything.
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.... because he cannot fix that you don't feel him.

He wants to continue to have a relationship in terms of friendship and I think this is a very mature attitude to take, considering a child is involved.
This life experience is over .. take the benefit of it and pay it forward with your next love.
This life experience is over .. take the benefit of it and pay it forward with your next love.

How old is he now? How old was he when you got married?

she sounds like a cancer to me or a fixed sign who really loves rutting around.
i also agree that this doesn't make sense. how did this start 4 years ago...with the birth of your child and yet, you're so clueless? i think you knew exactly what was going on. he was trying to improve his career and spending time away from home so you were spiteful/vindictive/unsupportive. maybe you felt that nothing would come of it? clearly you didn't believe in him. he obviously sensed that. i mean, you talk about his desire to be successful as if it's a dirty thing? what is wrong with you?
opening a business or climbing ladders is tough. nothing worse than family and friends who don't have your back in the midst of the building process. i stopped talking to one of my relatives as a result of her not being there for me with regard to my business. maybe p-angel is right. my aunt is a f'ing virgo!
for him it probably feels like you don't deserve to basque in his success. he had to suffer through that alone and instead being by his side, pushing him along, you did what? where were you? why didn't you go along for the ride?
he said that he has changed. you haven't and frankly, why should he stay? maybe you're different people right now. did your development pique with "i do?"
i'm sorry for your pain but if you're asking WHY he left and what you can do to get him back, it's obvious...CHANGE! can you not be you? if so, this relationship stands a chance 😛
i also agree that this doesn't make sense. how did this start 4 years ago...with the birth of your child and yet, you're so clueless? i think you knew exactly what was going on. he was trying to improve his career and spending time away from home so you were spiteful/vindictive/unsupportive. maybe you felt that nothing would come of it? clearly you didn't believe in him. he obviously sensed that. i mean, you talk about his desire to be successful as if it's a dirty thing? what is wrong with you?
opening a business or climbing ladders is tough. nothing worse than family and friends who don't have your back in the midst of the building process. i stopped talking to one of my relatives as a result of her not being there for me with regard to my business. maybe p-angel is right. my aunt is a f'ing virgo!
for him it probably feels like you don't deserve to basque in his success. he had to suffer through that alone and instead being by his side, pushing him along, you did what? where were you? why didn't you go along for the ride?
he said that he has changed. you haven't and frankly, why should he stay? maybe you're different people right now. did your development pique with "i do?"
i'm sorry for your pain but if you're asking WHY he left and what you can do to get him back, it's obvious...CHANGE! can you not be you? if so, this relationship stands a chance 😛

oh, and he's taking a lot of overseas trips and you're where? doing what?
you got comfortable and clearly took your relationship for granted. you didn't want to be an active participant in his life so why should he be active in yours? frankly, you sound very selfish and i'd be sorry for you if you connected with your role in the destruction instead of blaming him for damn near everything.
i wish my husband would go overseas without me 😛
you got comfortable and clearly took your relationship for granted. you didn't want to be an active participant in his life so why should he be active in yours? frankly, you sound very selfish and i'd be sorry for you if you connected with your role in the destruction instead of blaming him for damn near everything.
i wish my husband would go overseas without me 😛
What is your sign?
Just wanted to add, its his responsibility to let you know his feelings, the miscommunication before it lead to him wanting out and at the very least a reason why he wants out. No one is a mind reader. But at the same time its a blessing, at least he let you know so you can move on and not hold onto false hope. It's painful to be in unrequited love and not know it, but to know it... you gotta do better.
Posted by Madalena
My wonderful gorgeous scorpio husband felt neglected after the birth of out child...
yea well so did mine...what can i say? having a baby aint a piece of cake..but that didnt make him run the opposite direction...he pretty much just forced his way back into the sex life
so yea...WHAT DID U DO TO MAKE HIM RUN—
if the answer is truly nothing then..sorry hon, the man wasnt in love...and he's a jerk...all u can do now is let him go, pick up the pieces and live ur life
good luck
Always so quick to blame, like the Scorp man can do no wrong smfh.

Well, depends on what you mean by support.
When I do ask for help, which is rare, I mean for you to jump in and get your hands dirty with me. Or to help with the extra stuff.
Sometimes when my boyfriend asks for help, he means "do it for me". Wtf? Who do I look like? This is YOUR shyt...YOU do it! You're not going to sit back and watch and smile while I do it for you. I'm not having that. I will help you, as long as that means we're working TOGETHER. When I first expressed this to him, he got offended by my "lack of support".
When I do ask for help, which is rare, I mean for you to jump in and get your hands dirty with me. Or to help with the extra stuff.
Sometimes when my boyfriend asks for help, he means "do it for me". Wtf? Who do I look like? This is YOUR shyt...YOU do it! You're not going to sit back and watch and smile while I do it for you. I'm not having that. I will help you, as long as that means we're working TOGETHER. When I first expressed this to him, he got offended by my "lack of support".
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